CCP devs are apparently in the goons and goons have an open goon-botting tolerance policy, so clearly not.

Officially most alliances are probably anti-bot, kind of social suicide otherwise, so any answer you get here on an open forum will be irrelevant, tainted, flawed, outright lies.

CCP is getting better at it but they need to accept their limitations and involve the employers (corps/alliances) in the equation: Make employers partially accountable for employee behaviour and introduce some helpful tools (such as activity monitors) for corp/alliance admins to use to ferret out the culprits.

Nice tinfoil hat. Goonswarm was one of the unnamed alliances I mentioned, which I believe (according to my sources) has a "don't report bots" policy. It's not "bots are okay" but it's effectively that anyway. The reason that is put in place is because of idiots who would go through friendly systems reporting every single ratter for botting, which causes unnecessary drama and headaches for everyone. Even worse if those friendly systems are in an ally's space, not the own alliance's space.

I mean, it's understandable, but sort of sad. And that doesn't answer my question either way.

Officially most alliances are probably anti-bot, kind of social suicide otherwise, so any answer you get here on an open forum will be irrelevant, tainted, flawed, outright lies.

CCP is getting better at it but they need to accept their limitations and involve the employers (corps/alliances) in the equation: Make employers partially accountable for employee behaviour and introduce some helpful tools (such as activity monitors) for corp/alliance admins to use to ferret out the culprits.

Might be PL would kick any botting char that got caught and blown. Not because it is ~immoral~, but because he is stupid enough to do it on a main and not on an alt in a renter alliance in some god-forgotten null system.

And on a more serious note, the answer is yes, at least one such alliance exists.

If PL does this, they may have regained the respect I lost for them when they hotdropped my Slicer with an Aeon and a Nyx.

How in the great blue **** did your slicer get tackled by 2 supers?

It's pretty simple: any Alliance that takes a strong stand against botting will lose the 0.0 game as a result and no longer be a viable Alliance in Eve. It's counterproductive for them to report on their own ISK making activities, so why would they? No, it's CCP that needs to step up their efforts against bots...but wait, then they'll lose real life sub dollars, so why would they do that?? A never ending problem...too many people are on the take.

There are far too many ways for people to Bot / RMT on throw away accounts and transferring isk to their respective alliances with zero risk.

Officially most alliances are probably anti-bot, kind of social suicide otherwise, so any answer you get here on an open forum will be irrelevant, tainted, flawed, outright lies.

CCP is getting better at it but they need to accept their limitations and involve the employers (corps/alliances) in the equation: Make employers partially accountable for employee behaviour and introduce some helpful tools (such as activity monitors) for corp/alliance admins to use to ferret out the culprits.

And the 'No Bot Reporting' rule originated in TEST when a bunch of mouthbreathers were mad about the sanctum nerf and couldn't find an empty one to harvest interstellar ***-gold from. So they started reporting people who were honestly just ratting to get them a temp ban until an investigation was completed.

Funny how entire alliances are to blame for RMTing when they could careless about the trivial amounts of ISK to be made in that manner, when a single tech moon produces about 115-130M ISK/Hour (at hurry up and sell prices at that); so why would GoonSwarm RMT when they have enough ISK (as well as the rest of their coalition) to just replace any ship lost in any attempt to ****, murder, purge or kill something?

Besides- if you were the leader or synomous overlord of a nullsec alliance roughly the size of the top 4 alliances (~4600 members on average) where would you find time to monitor the activities of every active member in your alliance? You cannot possibly pin that kind of responsibility on a handful of people, regardless as to what alliance they belong to.

And the 'No Bot Reporting' rule originated in TEST when a bunch of mouthbreathers were mad about the sanctum nerf and couldn't find an empty one to harvest interstellar ***-gold from. So they started reporting people who were honestly just ratting to get them a temp ban until an investigation was completed.

Given the amount of null sec being invaded right now, I would imagine botting out in Null has dropped off signifigantly, and since the Goon Ice Interdiction is over, I don't think anyone would be hard pressed to figure out where they went...

Stuff.

Funny how entire alliances are to blame for RMTing when they could careless about the trivial amounts of ISK to be made in that manner, when a single tech moon produces about 115-130M ISK/Hour (at hurry up and sell prices at that); so why would GoonSwarm RMT when they have enough ISK (as well as the rest of their coalition) to just replace any ship lost in any attempt to ****, murder, purge or kill something?

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The claim is they SELL the ISK they make form those moons to get personally rich with real money.

Edit: Zero tolerance Alliance: Ivy League. But they hold no sov.

Maybe if CCP instituted actual rewards (for example, 0.5% of botted isk goes to the whistle blower) on bots reported via their "Report Bot" menu option, more people would be willing to break the "don't ask, don't tell" bot-agreement?

Or everyone would go all ++ber-snitch hoping to score free isk, and there would be more than 9000 reports per hour.

I think what you described here should be the basis for a new (and worthwhile) bounty system in Eve. Bounty Hunter's on the lookout for bots and getting paid phat ISK to do so.

I think you should never post again.

You realize most of the alliances that are the constant target for finger pointers, all have open financials posted either on their super serious 'spreadsheets online' forums, or in game right?