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Chiana Moro Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 25	Posted - 2016.10.06 05:55:23 - [1] - Quote is sadly neglected and open for claims of damages. I had an encounter with one of your pets today in Gamis. I was seeking to move an old an long neglected "hauler" from there to a nearby system, when I was bumped. Said pet claimed that if I wished to mine I needed to pay a license fee. So far so good. Now, your pet either needs new glasses, needs to reread the referenced CODE OF CONDUCT because when I informed the pet that I don't mine, have never mined or have never mined anything but ships, he claimed that the same licensed applied to haulers. [04:22:09] The pet> Because The New Halaima Code of Conduct requires you to have one [04:22:30] The pet> http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html Problem the first: There is no place in THE NEW HALAIMA CODE OF CONDUCT that explicitly mentions haulers. And as I was simply moving an empty ship, not hauling, it could arguably be claimed the ship wasn't a hauler in the first place. Problem the second: In your code of conduct is says: "Keep local clean. Miners should be courteous in local and should refrain from the use of profanity." I might have uttered the words "I don't give a ****" which some might construe to be profanity - but then this would not be subject to a violent reproach as I, as I said am not a miner. Following this encounter I had the opportunity to get back through Gamis by way of a minor distraction of 22 interceptor jumps from my poorly placed clone in PF-. Nothing would be further from my patient person than to seek recompense for the destroyed ship, it was after all a lowly Mammoth. However, if it pleases you I would be appreciative of a voluntary gift, for the loss 5 minutes purposeful gameplay caused by rerouting through Tribute to Gamis, in the order of 2 billion ISK. You can donate them in my account any time you feel convenient. And please fix your code of conduct to an THE EVEN NEWER AND CORRECTED HALAIMA CODE OF CONDUCT Best regards, Chiana
Paranoid Loyd 9637	Posted - 2016.10.06 06:27:34 - [2] - Quote Chiana Moro wrote: I didn't go raging on the EVE O forums because of it though. Learn by your mistakes OP and brings something sturdier next time (if you are still there). I found some good advice "There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix Fix the Prospect!
Chiana Moro Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 25	Posted - 2016.10.06 06:34:08 - [3] - Quote I am not raging - I pointed out, in a most civilized way I might ad, that the Code of Conduct doesn't mention anything other than miners. And thus might be open for damages due to mistakenly destroyed ships. EDIT: Also I wish to point out that the quoted pet reference doesn't mention Gamis. I feel then, that the new and improved Code of Conduct should be rewritten in such a way as to prevent errouniously destroyed vehicles. Or that pets of Code stop refering to an out of date piece of legal matter.
Paranoid Loyd 9637	Posted - 2016.10.06 06:48:38 - [4] - Quote Chiana Moro wrote: legal matter. Please type another 300 words about how you're not mad. "There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix Fix the Prospect!
Vladimir's Revenge Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 0	Posted - 2016.10.06 07:05:36 - [5] - Quote >Claims to not be mad >Uses all caps Ah yes, threads like this are why I read C&P
Chiana Moro Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 25	Posted - 2016.10.06 07:18:37 - [6] - Quote Vladimir's Revenge wrote: >Claims to not be mad >Uses all caps Ah yes, threads like this are why I read C&P ROFL (oh sorry rofl) That was a quote for the page http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html I suppose CODE. are mad? Paranoid Loyd wrote: Please type another 300 words about how you're not mad. Honestly, this forum has degenerated if that's the best it can produce.
Lan Wang C.Q.B Snuffed Out 3530	Posted - 2016.10.06 08:50:07 - [7] - Quote better watch out, code will wardec you and send you a strongly worded mail to your ceo requesting you be removed from any alliance then never wardec you or reply, these guys are scary business Loyalist to Angel Cartel Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
Chiana Moro Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 25	Posted - 2016.10.06 09:09:27 - [8] - Quote Where does it say I have critize CODE? Obviously the whole post went over everyones head.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 18472	Posted - 2016.10.06 09:13:59 - [9] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: better watch out, code will wardec you and send you a strongly worded mail to your ceo requesting you be removed from any alliance then never wardec you or reply, these guys are scary business They're suuuuper serial Praposal:Un-F**k Locator Agants =]\|[=
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri New Order Logistics CODE. 553	Posted - 2016.10.06 10:32:16 - [10] - Quote Hi Chiana, and thanks for your feedback. You see, the Code is, undoubtedly, the most important, but by no means the only legal document in highsec. Judging by the time of your posts, chances are high that you come from either America or Australia, which makes it easier for you to understand the concept of common law. In the United States, you cannot say that you have studied the American constitution unless you have also studied the innumerable decisions of the Supreme Court. Likewise, not only does the Law of Highsec consist of the New Halaima Code of Conduct (the Constitution of Highsec, so to say), but also encompasses all the posts and articles of James 315 on www.minerbumping.com and third-party websites. The Saviour of Highsec has frequently codified (pun intended) various precedents set forth by our valiant Agents, which includes, but not limited to, prevention of autopiloting, decadent fitting, or, like in your case, hauling without a valid mining permit. As for using profanity in local and in exchanges with our Agents, you are correct in mentioning that it is, indeed, a common feature among highsec miners. You should keep in mind, however, that by sticking to this way of communication you by default make yourself equal to that exact lowest denominator, which is why addressing the perpetrator as "miner" when asking him to calm down (as in "Miner, calm down") is recommended by the New Order Agents' SOP. For further inquiries on the possibility of a reimbursement, you need to present your lossmail so that we all can figure out what actually happened. I hope that this response has been able to clarify the fine points of the Code and will improve the enjoyability of your stay within the space of the New Order of Highsec. Praise James! -- S.
Piz Caldera Saubaer Schweinepriester 50	Posted - 2016.10.06 11:45:52 - [11] - Quote Fine Miss Chiana, to make it easy and transparent: Everybody in EVE needs a Code. permit, foy any activity in Highsec. Without a permit and by violating the Code, the Agents will find you, soon or later, but be sure - they ll take notice about each little crime you and other do! Well known is James 315 red Pen list, where all heavy crime is noted. But each Agent has got also its personal red Pen list where each little crime from non Code. compliant pilots is written down. Violating the Code, can be much more than afk mining or afk hauling, it can be almost everything - as long as you dont call yourself the proud owner of a permit. So be clever, buy a permit now, follow the Code., see the light, help to make Highsec a better place!
Lan Wang C.Q.B Snuffed Out 3530	Posted - 2016.10.06 11:49:28 - [12] - Quote Piz Caldera wrote: Without a permit and by violating the Code, the Agents will find you, soon or later, but be sure - they ll take notice about each little crime you and other do! really? people operate without permits and code don't do anything, lets not pedal code propaganda like its mandatory to have a permit, we all know permits mean jack Loyalist to Angel Cartel Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
Piz Caldera Saubaer Schweinepriester 50	Posted - 2016.10.06 11:56:33 - [13] - Quote yes really, Miss Lan Wang. Also your crime and this of your Alt`s is well known to us. Dont try to justify, the Law will bring also to you once justice.
Lan Wang C.Q.B Snuffed Out 3530	Posted - 2016.10.06 12:01:43 - [14] - Quote Piz Caldera wrote: yes really, Miss Lan Wang. Also your crime and this of your Alt`s is well known to us. Dont try to justify, the Law will bring also to you once justice. i dont have alts :( Loyalist to Angel Cartel Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 18474	Posted - 2016.10.06 12:22:35 - [15] - Quote Piz Caldera wrote: Fine Miss Chiana, to make it easy and transparent: Everybody in EVE needs a Code. permit, foy any activity in Highsec. Many a time a man's mouth broke his nose. Praposal:Un-F**k Locator Agants =]\|[=
Lan Wang C.Q.B Snuffed Out 3531	Posted - 2016.10.06 12:25:29 - [16] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Piz Caldera wrote: Fine Miss Chiana, to make it easy and transparent: Everybody in EVE needs a Code. permit, foy any activity in Highsec. Many a time a man's mouth broke his nose. hope you have a permit otherwise code will enforce the law on your bad self Loyalist to Angel Cartel Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1881	Posted - 2016.10.06 12:34:44 - [17] - Quote gets beer and popcorn I smell a feature article In the making. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Piz Caldera Saubaer Schweinepriester 50	Posted - 2016.10.06 12:38:31 - [18] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Piz Caldera wrote: Fine Miss Chiana, to make it easy and transparent: Everybody in EVE needs a Code. permit, foy any activity in Highsec. Many a time a man's mouth broke his nose. Sir King Ralph Griffin, Thanks for this advice, indeed you are completely right! For myself, i have a mouth and nose Implantat, if its damaged or destroyed, its changed fast. What i would need additional is a eye-implantat, such as a fine product that cover your right eye. So i ask you kindly, Sir, to contract your right eye implantat today to me and i will accept it as a donation for your sin and crime. If you send me additional 10 Million ISK, it will be your happiest day of life to receive your first Code. permit!
Lan Wang C.Q.B Snuffed Out 3531	Posted - 2016.10.06 12:39:24 - [19] - Quote ^^ who is this guy and why is he pretending to be code? Loyalist to Angel Cartel Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
Piz Caldera Saubaer Schweinepriester 50	Posted - 2016.10.06 12:50:01 - [20] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: ^^ who is this guy and why is he pretending to be code? Pardon, i forgot to introduce myself. I am Piz, and i like to gank ships. I m the Sheriff of Starsystem Balle (which is Sweden a simular name for a "penis") which i defend and maintain for James 315, the Savior of Highsec. Usually i stay just there, because i am old and dont like to travel alot anymore. I follow the Code., i fight for the Code., but i m no actual member for the Code Alliance. But what about you, Miss Lan Wang, did you ever Praise James 315 and his idea for Highsec?
Lan Wang C.Q.B Snuffed Out 3532	Posted - 2016.10.06 12:54:19 - [21] - Quote so a wannabe...whats his idea for highsec again, i forget Loyalist to Angel Cartel Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
Francis Raven ExDominion Evictus. 38	Posted - 2016.10.06 13:04:53 - [22] - Quote Piz Caldera wrote: Lan Wang wrote: ^^ who is this guy and why is he pretending to be code? Pardon, i forgot to introduce myself. I am Piz, and i like to gank ships. I m the Sheriff of Starsystem Balle (which is Sweden a simular name for a "penis") which i defend and maintain for James 315, the Savior of Highsec. Usually i stay just there, because i am old and dont like to travel alot anymore. I follow the Code., i fight for the Code., but i m no actual member for the Code Alliance. But what about you, Miss Lan Wang, did you ever Praise James 315 and his idea for Highsec? Quick question Piz - If Ralph were to send you the +10M isk from when you requested his eye piece, you said he would be the owner of a Mining Permit. However as quoted above, you are saying you are not part of Code., and therefore how can you issue said Mining Permit? ExDominion \| Nullsec Corporation \| Website \| Forums \| Established Nov. 2015 \|
Piz Caldera Saubaer Schweinepriester 50	Posted - 2016.10.06 13:09:52 - [23] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: so a wannabe...whats his idea for highsec again, i forget Miss Wang, you can call me a wannabe or whatever you like, we fight for a higher mission and i am immune to any foul or offensive language. So lets take a deep breath together and analyse why you forgot such an important and elemental part of the game as the Halaima Code of Conduct. I guess, the reason for this disease to forget about elemental things can be only excessive mining activities, which dulls the brain as alcoholics do. I am right Miner?
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri New Order Logistics CODE. 554	Posted - 2016.10.06 13:11:36 - [24] - Quote Any supporter of James 315 who flies a Bumping Stabber or a Ganking Catalyst may issue mining permits and collect tithe in the Saviour's name.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 18474	Posted - 2016.10.06 13:14:06 - [25] - Quote may Praposal:Un-F**k Locator Agants =]\|[=
Star Burstie Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 14	Posted - 2016.10.06 13:15:23 - [26] - Quote Its weird, Ive never seen CODE trying to ask me for my permit, which I dont have an will never get, but then again I also always fly ships with guns that im not afraid to use
Dom Arkaral Axios 602	Posted - 2016.10.06 14:14:58 - [27] - Quote -op isn't mad -op proceeds to make a forum post (of all things) to show her discontent GG no re Oh btw, Quote: The Code is a living, breathing document [...] Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Nitshe's favorite Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 011011116
Lan Wang C.Q.B Snuffed Out 3532	Posted - 2016.10.06 14:30:54 - [28] - Quote Piz Caldera wrote: Lan Wang wrote: so a wannabe...whats his idea for highsec again, i forget Miss Wang, you can call me a wannabe or whatever you like, we fight for a higher mission and i am immune to any foul or offensive language. So lets take a deep breath together and analyse why you forgot such an important and elemental part of the game as the Halaima Code of Conduct. I guess, the reason for this disease to forget about elemental things can be only excessive mining activities, which dulls the brain as alcoholics do. I am right Miner? yes you are right, how could i be so silly, i should really stop mining and posting as my afkness while mining is affecting my yield. disease i like it! Loyalist to Angel Cartel Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 2868	Posted - 2016.10.06 15:12:59 - [29] - Quote I'm so glad op is not mad and looks like everything worked out fine. for completeness, in case no one posted that yet: http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/06/yes-all-freighters-need-mining-permits.html the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Revis Owen The Conference Elite CODE. 414	Posted - 2016.10.06 16:09:37 - [30] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: But thanks, you make me feel relevant On behalf of the New Order, you're welcome! Often unsung is the fact that the New Order's ubiquitous relevance in highsec brings relevance to every highsec citizen, no matter how low their status is. As a moon gains a bright shine from reflected sunlight, every highsec miner/hauler/mission runner/etc. gains relevance from NO's relevance. To be sure, that relevance is unwelcome by some as it results in their loss of ship and pod. But ANY relevance is better than no relevance at all. Praise James! Agent of the New Order http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html If you do not have a current Mining Permit, please contact me for issuance.

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