If you're adding skills to the alpha set, can we also get higher levels of the Warp Drive Activation skill? Warping even moderate distances without the skill trained to 4/5, especially with bad capacitor support skills in t1 frigates, is extremely punishing and makes for some really unfun gameplay sitting in the middle of space waiting for your cap to recharge.

If you lapse to Alpha, you will keep ownership of your colonies and they will keep running, but you wonGÇÖt be able to collect any resources from them until going back to Omega State.

Sone i dont se any Point in subing anymore the alpha clones are gona be just fine whit out subing..

They get more and more skill they can do more and more, get acess to more and more of the game.

And we that pay for the game gona get more gankers, more mission item ninja looters, and all i se is a big - on beeing a sub atm.

Atlest they should force all alphas to have green safty on in high sec,

Can you be more specific?

I'd like to welcome all the SP farmers....seriously. Why limit PI but leave a gaping hole with people having as many SP alts as you care to have?

You can make the argument that SP income would be limited vs PI, but will it? Really? I mean I could have 50 SP alts rotating around and extracting 600M ISK every 8.5 days per account. That's 30 BIL every 8.5 days based on current prices and 2500 sp/hr. The number can be adjusted based on might be allowed, etc. But that amount of "passive" income is tremendous.

Now granted, the skill injector market will absolutely crash and will normalize. Maybe that's what CCP is intending....

restrictions that keep any Alpha account from passing character select if another EVE client is already active

I'd like to welcome all the SP farmers....seriously. Why limit PI but leave a gaping hole with people having as many SP alts as you care to have?

You can make the argument that SP income would be limited vs PI, but will it? Really? I mean I could have 50 SP alts rotating around and extracting 600M ISK every 8.5 days per account. That's 30 BIL every 8.5 days based on current prices and 2500 sp/hr. The number can be adjusted based on might be allowed, etc. But that amount of "passive" income is tremendous.

Now granted, the skill injector market will absolutely crash and will normalize. Maybe that's what CCP is intending....

If High Sec ganking is a issue, make it so anyone with a certain Negative Sec standings cant not dock anymore in any high sec NPC station. Let Citadel owners have a sec rating option to allow or disallow based on sec rating. If groups of people are ganking and using a citadel, now people have a target to go after instead of gankers hiding in npc stations.

"The CSMGÇÖs number one focus for Clone States matched the biggest concern from general player f
let's talk about "the potential for abuse and exploitation".
What kind of abuse and exploitation would the multiple login of Alpha brings that multiple login of Omega does not bring?

Skill Extraction will be allowed for Alphas. This is another one of those areas where we can see potential issues down the line with SP farming, but we also really want returning players to have the option to extract old skills if they like. This could be a good path for many returners to go Omega, or just fund for some startup ships and modules. Of course, we wonGÇÖt allow Alphas to extract skills in the Alpha set, but we may need even further restrictions later. ItGÇÖs an easy one for us to keep an eye on so we will just update later with changes if they are needed.

Re-read a few of the dev blogs on it. Alpha chars won't be able to extract alpha skills. This means that you'll have to (1) sub to extract alpha skills, (2) sub to train non-alpha skills you can then extract, or (3) extract skills you trained when you had subbed previously.

There's probably going to be a dip in their price, no doubt, when this first goes live, and it'll probably stay down for the first few months, but it's unlikely to crash and even less likely to be permanent.

Remember: alpha's currently will only have ~5 mil SP (even with the bump to Drones V), but you need 5.5 mil at a minimum to extract. You aren't going to be able to train to an extractable level to get a "freebie" in when you sub.

...I set up 50 of them on the first day and train them into blaster Catalysts. I don't care how long this takes because it's free; I just update skills as required until its done. Then I use them in batches of 15, flying ships that cost less than 1m Isk, to gank haulers.

I could do the same with mining ventures, and have a low but infinitely scale-able source of income with zero overhead.

The only cost to me is buying their ships and skills, and I can earn enough to set one up in ten minutes without breaking a sweat. Since the cost is so trivial, and since multi-boxing lets me scale the numbers up to compensate for low individual power, there is no real in-game barrier to abuse besides how fast I can tab between windows.

By limiting it to one account at least a group of real humans cooperating is required, which is actually quite hard. Especially getting Eve-playing humans to cooperate...

I'd like to welcome all the SP farmers....seriously. Why limit PI but leave a gaping hole with people having as many SP alts as you care to have?

You can make the argument that SP income would be limited vs PI, but will it? Really? I mean I could have 50 SP alts rotating around and extracting 600M ISK every 8.5 days per account. That's 30 BIL every 8.5 days based on current prices and 2500 sp/hr. The number can be adjusted based on might be allowed, etc. But that amount of "passive" income is tremendous.

Now granted, the skill injector market will absolutely crash and will normalize. Maybe that's what CCP is intending....

The only thing to prevent this from happening is locking the racial skills for every character from skill extraction. If you have chosen to be Caldari, there is no need to remove the Alpha Caldari skills (also with Omega status) ... it is your primary faction you have chosen. Eve has consequences!

Let's keep the issue of ganking separately, as there is an easy way to address that with the security settings.

Not surprising coming from a goon....
Your goal is to have as much meat shields as possible, so a system that funnels player automatically to large alliance is to your strict benefit.
I support giving more tools for players to play solo, and not have to have to join larger groups to play the game.