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Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.03.22 11:52:00 - [1] Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 22/03/2007 11:49:55 Namtz'aar K'in declared a CONCORD-sanctioned war against the known pirate corporation Infinitus Odium 2 weeks ago. Contrary to their propaganda, the declaration was filed only after INFOD had left Curse Alliance and Great Wildlands, to return to their piracy in Molden Heath. After heavy initial losses Namtz'aar k'in have been able to move onto a war footing and more structured tactics are now in place. We are seeing this reflected in the new tactics of the invader, as they will now only visit our home systems either in very large groups with capital ship support, or in very small groups of one-to-two pilots playing hit-and-run. As the kill/death ratio improves we are seeing morale within our troops rise and the new tactics of engaging them on our terms are paying off as their frustration level grows. Nowhere is this more apparent than in their recent behaviour on these boards. In the events of last week, an attempt was made by INFOD to assault POS starbases in Hedaleolfarber. They attacked three small starbases with a group of twenty-plus battleships and four carriers. One NMTZ starbase was placed in reinforced mode after 40 minutes of concentrated fire from the attackers who also destroyed a starbase belonging to a corporation not involved in the war and placed another into reinforced mode. Both the surviving starbases were repaired back to full shields in less than 24h from the initial attack. A later combined attack between NMTZ and 5th Column was repulsed by INFOD with heavy losses but key lessons were learned and morale remains high. A counter-attack on INFOD property is under way. The war continues and will do so while this aggressive invader tries to tighten their grip on Molden Heath, whether or not the CONCORD-sanctioned war-declarations will be continued by either party. Indications of INFOD's growing frustration as they realise that NMTZ will not crumble were demonstrated not only by their behaviour in public, but also by the recent actions of an INFOD spy who spent much time attempting to persuade alliance corporations to sue for peace and pay 'tenancy' fees to INFOD. When it was clear that this would not work this same spy also provided INFOD with warp-in points on combined NMTZ and 5th Column fleets but losses he caused were minimal. INFOD have also made extensive offers to corporations residing in Molden Heath to accept payment for not attacking their assets. Corps who wish to live in Molden Heath as tenants of INFOD should most likely contact one of their diplomats. We have to advice against trusting them in this or anything, however. We would also like to take this opportunity to thank and praise all our allies who have stood together against this threat despite efforts of the enemy to cause discord: 5th Column, Electus Matari, Foundation, and the several smaller organizations working in the area. In order not to encourage the disruptive public behaviour (also known as "juvenile smacktalk") of many of our enemies, we will not answer inquiries in this thread. For further information, questions, concerns, suggestions, declarations of hostilities or co-operation, please contact any of the following: Cz Ire - primary diplomat Elsebeth Rhiannon - secretary to the council of directors DuPuy - field commander, secretary of defense Pacal Balan - alliance executor Apologies for a late update. Both myself and Cz Ire have had remarkably less time in pod during the last month than is the norm for us. -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient now.
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 12:18:00 - [2] Thank you for this little piece of propaganda betty. So the waiting for the "final victory" has begun? Why is it that I haven't seen one single NMTZ gang consisting of more than 3 pilots since I joined INFOD? Quote: A counter-attack on INFOD property is under way. Bring it on baby!
Ricardo ilMagnifico Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.22 12:37:00 - [3] Stand strong Elsebeth. Join NKB - Member Corp of Ushra'Khan
Grant Smith Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 12:49:00 - [4] Edited by: Grant Smith on 22/03/2007 12:46:58 Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon After heavy initial losses Namtz'aar k'in have been able to move onto a war footing and more structured tactics are now in place. We are seeing this reflected in the new tactics of the invader, as they will now only visit our home systems either in very large groups with capital ship support, or in very small groups of one-to-two pilots playing hit-and-run. More structure tactics meaning that of cynoing capitals in to a 2 man battleship group, using ECM 24/7 and assembling 10 man gangs to chase a shuttle around for over an hour, gotcha. And you're right! We're being more tactical too, we're now bringing a sud-o-ku puzzle book and a large pot of tea everytime we come to pay a visit, damn all that waiting gets boring! Thinkin' ahead ya see. Quote: As the kill/death ratio improves we are seeing morale within our troops rise and the new tactics of engaging them on our terms are paying off as their frustration level grows. Nowhere is this more apparent than in their recent behaviour on these boards. Firstly, dear betty, I would like to state that you should make it a rule in your absurd rules of rp'ing madness that all loss mails should be posted. along with this i'd like to point out that 98% of your kills are against SOLO targets taking a suicide trip towards "your neck of the woods". Don't get too arrogant about it. Though our behaviour on this forum... ? I thought you knew us better than that, the way you speak about us and all, you should know that this is just us. Quote: In the events of last week, an attempt was made by INFOD to assault POS starbases in Hedaleolfarber. They attacked three small starbases with a group of twenty-plus battleships and four carriers. One NMTZ starbase was placed in reinforced mode after 40 minutes of concentrated fire from the attackers who also destroyed a starbase belonging to a corporation not involved in the war and placed another into reinforced mode. Both the surviving starbases were repaired back to full shields in less than 24h from the initial attack. A later combined attack between NMTZ and 5th Column was repulsed by INFOD with heavy losses but key lessons were learned and morale remains high. A counter-attack on INFOD property is under way. 3 carriers, and we never intended to return. Congratulations on repairing both POS back to 100% in 24 hours! And yeah we're win, keep on thinking you got high morale within your ranks, makes it all the more easy. Quote: The war continues and will do so while this aggressive invader tries to tighten their grip on Molden Heath, whether or not the CONCORD-sanctioned war-declarations will be continued by either party. Indications of INFOD's growing frustration as they realise that NMTZ will not crumble were demonstrated not only by their behaviour in public. STFU, please. YOu write stuff like this just to make yourself feel better? You could see things from our perspective you'd realise just how much up your own arse you actually are. kthxplz. Quote: We would also like to take this opportunity to thank and praise all our allies who have died together against this threat despite achieved goals of the enemy to cause discord: 5th Column, Electus Matari, Foundation, and the several smaller organizations working in the area. 4 Alliances + Friedlies -VS- INFOD/ Cz Ire - primary diplomat - neverevenseenyouingame Elsebeth Rhiannon - secretary to the council of directors - noob DuPuy - field commander, secretary of defense - Field commander who docks. Awesome. Pacal Balan - alliance executor - Shouldn't have gone there mate. Quote: Apologies for a late update. Both myself and Cz Ire have had remarkably less time in pod during the last month than is the norm for us. You should appologise for bull****ting so much too. --- G o> INFOD Director.
Malachi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 13:00:00 - [5] After heavy initial losses Namtz'aar k'in have been able to move onto a war footing and more structured tactics are now in place. We are seeing this reflected in the new tactics of the invader, as they will now only visit our home systems either in very large groups with capital ship support, or in very small groups of one-to-two pilots playing hit-and-run. As the kill/death ratio improves we are seeing morale within our troops rise and the new tactics of engaging them on our terms are paying off as their frustration level grows. Nowhere is this more apparent than in their recent behaviour on these boards. Our intel suggests otherwise. There is considerable resentment with NMTZ from both your friends and alliance members for starting this war. You and your allies have taken considerable loses and do not appear to be able to fight back. Our k/d ratio stands at almost 80% hardly encouraging for you and your allies. Our offer still stands to neutrals in Molden Heath: join the fight against NMTZ or we will kill you.
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 13:15:00 - [6] 50 mill to whoever brings me Betty's corpse. Gonna solve this the old fashioned way.
kellae Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.03.22 13:46:00 - [7] tassi i want her now :( she seems so sexy when shes angry
U'puauht Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 13:59:00 - [8] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon After heavy initial losses Namtz'aar k'in have been able to move onto a war footing and more structured tactics are now in place. Thank Heavens! This surely means we'll get some proper fights out of Namtz'aar k'in members, instead of having to make do with their 5th Column meatshields? Respect to 5thC for bringing it most of the time by the way! Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon In the events of last week, an attempt was made by INFOD to assault POS starbases in Hedaleolfarber. They attacked three small starbases with a group of twenty-plus battleships and four carriers. One NMTZ starbase was placed in reinforced mode after 40 minutes of concentrated fire from the attackers who also destroyed a starbase belonging to a corporation not involved in the war and placed another into reinforced mode. Both the surviving starbases were repaired back to full shields in less than 24h from the initial attack. No offense, but I wouldn't call killing one small POS and putting 2 more into reinforced "[making an attempt] to assualt POS starbases" ... there's no shame in admitting your enemies smacked you around, y'know. Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon A later combined attack between NMTZ and 5th Column was repulsed by INFOD with heavy losses but key lessons were learned and morale remains high. "Morale remains high"?? That would mean morale was high in the first place, and being someone who judges their adversaries by action rather than words, I hate to break it to you, Mrs Rhiannon, but Namtz'aar k'in pilots in the large have yet to show their morale is anywhere near high and come fight the good fight. Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Indications of INFOD's growing frustration as they realise that NMTZ will not crumble were demonstrated not only by their behaviour in public(...) What is frustrating is that you're all good with words, but your pilots don't bring it for the most part. That's pretty much the only frustration I can think of in regards to Namtz'aar k'in VS INFOD, at least on our side. I'm sure (thanks to intel) that there's more to add from your side though. Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon We would also like to take this opportunity to thank and praise all our allies who have stood together against this threat despite efforts of the enemy to cause discord: 5th Column, Electus Matari, Foundation, and the several smaller organizations working in the area. This goes to the parties addressed in above quote: if I was you, I'd save this communication somewhere in your ship's logs, and make sure you read it when your "fellow allies" in Namtz'aar k'in keep pushing you to the frontlines while cuddling in their docking bays. It's as much recognition of your sacrifices as you'll ever get from them. On a finishing note from my end of INFOD, and please keep in mind I'm but a mere (though happy) grunt: don't let the high-handed speeches given by your so-called leaders cloud your judgment of the situation. Words don't replace your losses inflicted by us, they don't help you make ISK and enjoy your time out in Molden Heath. It's not too late to make sure the political puppeteers of Namtz'aar k'in and MH-SEC take the fall without pulling you with them. Think about it. ____________________ Wood-legged, eye-patched, parrot-on-the-shoulder Priest of The Church
U'puauht Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 14:00:00 - [9] Originally by: Tassi 50 mill to whoever brings me Betty's corpse. I see your 50 and raise 25. ____________________ Wood-legged, eye-patched, parrot-on-the-shoulder Priest of The Church
Atreides Horza Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 14:12:00 - [10] Edited by: Atreides Horza on 22/03/2007 14:17:07 Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon After heavy initial losses Namtz'aar k'in have been able to move onto a war footing and more structured tactics are now in place. We've noticed this as well. You no longer seem to warp into the fight in groups of three or four, rather than in one big blob, which greatly decreases the time we spend expediting targets. Thank you for that. :) Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon We are seeing this reflected in the new tactics of the invader, as they will now only visit our home systems either in very large groups with capital ship support, or in very small groups of one-to-two pilots playing hit-and-run. Being a member of NMTZ command you should know that fighting a war isn't a menu where you order the meal of the day in accordance with what your appetite will allow you to swallow. Seeing that we have taken it upon ourselves to spoon-feed your malnourished alliance, we have taken steps to ensure that we alone decide whether you are allowed to have a small taste of the good stuff or enough of it to choke on. Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon As the kill/death ratio improves we are seeing morale within our troops rise and the new tactics of engaging them on our terms are paying off as their frustration level grows. Nowhere is this more apparent than in their recent behaviour on these boards. Perhaps you should frequent the killboards rather than exacting censorship on our members in this open forum. That'd also spare you the embarassment of claiming to be on par with the situation, when it's quite apparent to anyone with an IQ above room temperature that the NMTZ has failed completely and utterly at anything more than bringing a war to an entire region that they themselves are too scared to fight. Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon In the events of last week, an attempt was made by INFOD to assault POS starbases in Hedaleolfarber. They attacked three small starbases with a group of twenty-plus battleships and four carriers. One NMTZ starbase was placed in reinforced mode after 40 minutes of concentrated fire from the attackers who also destroyed a starbase belonging to a corporation not involved in the war and placed another into reinforced mode. I'm sure you are familiar with the expression that if the Amarr won't come to the Jove, then the Jove will have to come to the Amarr. So far, the NMTZ have shown us that they are somewhat reluctant to go into battle - even when they have the advantage of numbers. We will do whatever it takes to provoke a response from your forces. Let this be abundantly clear. With your declaration of war, you have bought yourselves nothing short of a war. If you waste our time by scrambling around like headless chickens in shuttles and what not, instead of fighting for your system and those foolish enough to rely on your protection, we will find something to shoot at. Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon A later combined attack between NMTZ and 5th Column was repulsed by INFOD with heavy losses but key lessons were learned and morale remains high. The "combined attack" consisted mainly of 5th Column pilots, who until now have paid the highest price for your war. The vast majority of NMTZ pilots were safely docked in those five minutes of carnage - including the NMTZ carrier pilot who found it necessary to pull a logoffski to save his capital ship. Let me give you another free lesson here to boost your morale: If you need to chase off a pack of wild dogs, don't bring a sack of kittens for the fight. Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon A counter-attack on INFOD property is under way. Six guys attacking an old station in the wee hours of the morning isn't really as much of a counterattack as the laugh of the day. We will, however, be more than happy to accomodate you and whoever you decide to bring with you, should you eventually develop the courage to do anything more than warp off in randomn directions as per usual. >>> to be continued
Atreides Horza Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 14:14:00 - [11] Edited by: Atreides Horza on 22/03/2007 14:25:28 continued >>> Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon INFOD have also made extensive offers to corporations residing in Molden Heath to accept payment for not attacking their assets. Corps who wish to live in Molden Heath as tenants of INFOD should most likely contact one of their diplomats. We have to advice against trusting them in this or anything, however. We make no secret of our pirate ways. We will engage anything that has no standings set to us - a policy that is no different from your own. To have standings set, you either pay with your allegiance in combat or with a sum of money in accordance with the size of your operation. Whether or not people trust us is of no consequence to us. If you do not wish to do business with us, it's a perfectly fair and acceptable stance. Unlike NMTZ, we don't force our beliefs upon others. We don't preach a code that we won't live up to either... and we NEVER let others take the brunt of our battles for us. I'd say that has considerably more marketing values than your advise and those ideals that you are so eager to preach, and yet so reluctant to live by. Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Indications of INFOD's growing frustration as they realise that NMTZ will not crumble were demonstrated not only by their behaviour in public, but also by the recent actions of an INFOD spy who spent much time attempting to persuade alliance corporations to sue for peace and pay 'tenancy' fees to INFOD. INFOD has no spies within you ranks and never have had. This job does not require spies, unless of course there was some way of forcibly undocking NMTZ ships from their stations - and believe me, if we wanted to have spies in your operation, we would have had it already. :) I can see, though, how this fits in the mosaic of propaganda that you are currently trying to push through. You use it to get rid of those among your allies who are now finally starting to ask questions as to why they find themselves on top of the killboards, while the NMTZ leaders have yet not had that "honor". Well, congratulations! Leaders of NMTZ, you can now add the revival of ancient McCarthyism, the trademark paranoia of past millenias barbarism, to your list of accolades! There is much to be learnt from ancient history, pilots and allies of NMTZ! The failure of any totalitarian regime is at hand when it spends it's resources killing off voices of reason rather than fighting the enemy at the gates. Your leaders are the political officers of that dark and ancient history, and their words are the water-cooled machine-guns mowing anyone down who suddenly sees through their illusion! Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon We would also like to take this opportunity to thank and praise all our allies who have stood together against this threat despite efforts of the enemy to cause discord: 5th Column, Electus Matari, Foundation, and the several smaller organizations working in the area. Praise the fighting 5th, if any. So far, they have been alone in providing us with any sizable fleet that a monkey couldn't scatter chucking rocks while hanging from a 10-ISK balloon. >>> to be continued
Atreides Horza Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 14:15:00 - [12] continued >>> In conclusion, I'm not too sure what you are trying to accomplish with this newsflash which is laughable at best to anyone who have actually fought in this war. Leaders of NMTZ, spare us the rethorics and the inflamatory speeches. Undock your capitals and fight alongside the mindless sheep that you have so far managed to drive in front of you and unto the fields of slaughter. Not only would it greatly alleviate and honor those among your allies who are now buckling under the constant strain of fighting a proxy war, but it is also the only way of preventing your discount ideology from being exposed for what it truly is: Nothing more than yet another hot air balloon of those ancient days, captained by lesser men with voices too big for their ego.
Fedaykinn Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 16:00:00 - [13] One Thing to Say On This.. PewPew Regards Fed
Ravelin Eb Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 16:04:00 - [14] Edited by: Ravelin Eb on 22/03/2007 16:01:55 I would like to see Namtz undock sometime soon.
Trypho Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 16:09:00 - [15] Do you even believe your own story? How can morale be high when we roll over to your HQ every night? Where is your mighty Minmatar fleet when you need them? Or is it all part of your little roleplaying game? At this moment you are the one getting the beating. Feel free to post when you achieve something, instead of reporting how you control the damage within your alliance. If you really are such hero`s, then why do you let us into your HQ? `Oh, we didn`t need those POS anyway, we were busy having a RP tea party`. Quote: INFOD have also made extensive offers to corporations residing in Molden Heath to accept payment for not attacking their assets. Corps who wish to live in Molden Heath as tenants of INFOD should most likely contact one of their diplomats. We have to advice against trusting them in this or anything, however. And you actually believe this yourself? We have big BS fleets every single night, we are waiting for you to do the same. I can`t blaim you for trying to improve morale, but I do blame you for lies and heroic poems when they are not in place. Hope you are ready for the big wave of new high SP PVP`ers we`ve got now. I`ll add 10m to the pot for your corpse. Will be hard though, you never undock. ---
Godar Marak Amarr Return Of Red Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.22 16:17:00 - [16] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon We would also like to take this opportunity to thank and praise all our allies who have stood together against this threat despite efforts of the enemy to cause discord: 5th Column, Electus Matari, Foundation, and the several smaller organizations working in the area. In otherwords....Infod a corporation of 162 members vs you 513 pilots, 5th Column 284, Electus Matari 187 and Foundation 64 (lolz). so thats Infod's 162 vs 1048 and Infod has many many times more kills than you. Either Infod is really uber, or the lot of you suck badly. Ir doesnt take a genious to see whos on top here. -------------------- '\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/' Cant we all just get along?
Wardog 1 Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 16:26:00 - [17] Quote: In order not to encourage the disruptive public behaviour (also known as "juvenile smacktalk") of many of our enemies, we will not answer inquiries in this thread. For further information, questions, concerns, suggestions, declarations of hostilities or co-operation, please contact any of the following: Propaganda, biased at that but i expect no less from anyone. You post your view of the war as it stands, i'll admit your word choice is clever and you choose the facts which best portray NMTZ as the resiliant victims. Yet i do not understand why you choose not to reply. This post is an attempt to make NMTZ look like the underdog. The fact is that your alliance declared war on our corporation, and in turn suffered ludacris casualties. Your post was good up until the end, when you ducked out of the thread. You post your claims and will not discuss them. You share your view and will not allow others to correct you with their side of the story. No this is not CAOD, yet none the less i would expect you to elaborate through conversation so the public may know both sides of the story. The current situation is that Namtz'aar k'in, Foundation, Electus Matari, and 5th collum, have launched a combined attack on Infod. If nothing this post shows that NMTZ is not capable of sustaining a war on its own.
F Apparition Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 17:13:00 - [18] The only frustrations we are experiencing are, as another INFOD member stated above, that nanmtz'aar k'in are all bark and no bite. You overestimate the slight annoyance your lack of willingness to engage us is causing. We're still having a helluva time crushing your forces. You are gifted in propaganda, and that's nothing to be taken lightly. But the fact still remains that, while outnumbered many times, INFOD has brought the pain to you. I find it amusing that you accuse us of blobbing you when you greatly outnumber us. We're still having fun, we aren't "letting our frustration kill us". We'd just like to see more juicy RP corpses littering MH space. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Elmo Pug ([email protected])
BlackRevenge Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 17:14:00 - [19] Unless the definition of turning the ties of the conflict has changed to "DOCK while you can, because INFOD is here" which is the default Namtz'aar K'in(btw in that you guys are UBER), you guys are getting your heads in a plate. If by any means all this is about you guys scoring some kills at 05h00 when more than 70% of our corp is off line, well congrats in that. But why hide when we just want to give you what you paying for, i mean a WAR. Or you were just hooping to find us flying some haulers full of minerals and getting free kills?
Alan Maher Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 18:58:00 - [20] I know this isn't very constructive but... BAHAHAhahahaha, are you serious Elsebeth?
Ank Myrandor Amarr Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 19:22:00 - [21] first of all you need several alliances to kill us , one corperation with good men that fight till death. second you are trying to say that you are trying to get on the upper hand but well, your followers really dissagree 'bout that. haven't seen much namtz arround lately and couldn't even shot some even when the war is still legal. what i'm trying to say is, whatever you try to say, when you can't trust your own members to be fighters for the cause, you'll never win this war. and last we are not back in molten heath to make friends, we don't need many friends. see you on the battlefield and don't speak unless you can force your oppinion over us
Aariss Amarr Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 19:23:00 - [22] While a Infod gang of 40 ships attacked Hedal on SUNDAY (nice prime time day) Namtz and allies taht numbered over 60+ in hedal plus teh surounding areas did not undock to fight as to save the POSes... Infod was outnumbered on a wednesday night (not so primetime) 35-4 and yet we still undocked to give it a go.. the Namtz pos assault resualted in a POS going into reinforced mode but yet they still lost a number of BS and some support! and with a larger Capital fleet too boot. Am i suppost to be imressed? Took 4 alliances to take down a POS during the weekday? and with 5-6 Capitals and still you lost Battleships to our frigates! If this is what raises your moral.. wow you must be in high spirits afer we keep killing off your fleets in hedal. So next time we do come to visit.. please oh for the love of sheep and all the other fuzzy animals.. please undock and atleast try to save your POSes. Thx cya around
U'puauht Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 20:16:00 - [23] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon A counter-attack on INFOD property is under way. I'm sure you were talking about that POS of ours you put into reinforced really early this morning ... and which you failed to kill. Now yet again we are roaming free in your home system of Hedaleolfarber and kill your members and supporters at will. To the Namtz'aar k'in "meat shields": don't you guys realize what's going on here? Do you really want to continue losing assets so that Elsebeth Rhiannon and her MH-SEC cronies can keep up their game of pretending to be a force that can actually do something? ____________________ Wood-legged, eye-patched, parrot-on-the-shoulder Priest of The Church
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 21:35:00 - [24] You put 1 of our POS into reinforced. We put 2 of your allies POS's into reinforced and kill a couple of em. This is how we will operate in the upcoming future. If you want to be safe from INFOD, contact INFOD leadership. We are able to work out deals. Think about one thing: Did NMTZ help you when you needed help? Is NMTZ likely to help you in the future if you, god beware, need help? One thing stands 100%: INFOD will help.
Aslann Gallente Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 23:37:00 - [25] Latest war update: Namtz'aar k'in has succeeded! in giving INFOD + friends the biggest case of blue balls* ever. Djeedjee guy, djeedjee. *See the Doc for treatment if neccesary (cures not guaranteed)
Trypho Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.23 00:52:00 - [26] We`ve heard that one of your fleets was underway, we waited and waited, and in the end went to visit you in your home system putting 2 of your POS in reinforced. How can this not be losing the war? What did happen to that fleet you had, we had our mind set on killing it and getting all of the sweet Rifter-loot We do have Smeggy`s corps though - Tassi actually has (you know what that means... ) ---
SonicCJK Grave Diggers Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2007.03.23 01:10:00 - [27] GO INFOD GO Heya Don C and Grant, i hoping u teaching those pver how to actually pvp >_> "Bruminor III > LV fleet = 5 bil, 1 doomsday device ignition = 20 mil, chowdown DDing his fleet = priceless"
Mithrindar Caldari Fury Corporation	Posted - 2007.03.23 09:19:00 - [28] Fury Corporation has declared war on Namtz'aar k'in. Anti-pirates need to be spanked and we're on vacation Prepare the slaver hounds!! Fury website
Flaming sambuka Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.23 11:22:00 - [29] Originally by: Mithrindar Fury Corporation has declared war on Namtz'aar k'in. Anti-pirates need to be spanked and we're on vacation Prepare the slaver hounds!! Nice one, lets all jump on the bandwagon so everybody dec NMTZ. There time is coming to an end... ... ...
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.03.23 15:00:00 - [30] I cannot help pointing out that I think this thread very much seems to prove true what was said in the top post about the mounting frustration and resulting smacktalk from our enemies. It is a nice try, and one has to give to INFOD that when it comes to volumes they can raise a mighty propaganda machine, way more powerful than that of any other than enemy I have fought. No matter what differences of opinion or style of fighting, skill and force must be respected, both those of guns and of words. Of course, no amount of respect for skill or force can change the facts here: that INFOD are pirates, smacktalkers, and liars, and we are not. Our allies certainly know this, and based on what they know choose for themselves who they shoot and who not. We are not jealous of our targets. Neither seems INFOD to be that of theirs... I have zero interest to take this to "did not, did too" and thus will not comment details of engagements or battles in public, outside of the war situation updates, which I hope we can make more frequent in the future. Suffices to say that the situation seems to me to be improving nicely. -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient now.
Madorthene	Posted - 2007.03.23 15:27:00 - [31] Edited by: Madorthene on 23/03/2007 15:23:55 Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Stuff Delusional.
F Apparition Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.23 15:34:00 - [32] Edited by: F Apparition on 23/03/2007 15:32:47 Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon I cannot help pointing out that I think this thread very much seems to prove true what was said in the top post about the mounting frustration and resulting smacktalk from our enemies. It is a nice try, and one has to give to INFOD that when it comes to volumes they can raise a mighty propaganda machine, way more powerful than that of any other than enemy I have fought. No matter what differences of opinion or style of fighting, skill and force must be respected, both those of guns and of words. Of course, no amount of respect for skill or force can change the facts here: that INFOD are pirates, smacktalkers, and liars, and we are not. Our allies certainly know this, and based on what they know choose for themselves who they shoot and who not. We are not jealous of our targets. Neither seems INFOD to be that of theirs... I have zero interest to take this to "did not, did too" and thus will not comment details of engagements or battles in public, outside of the war situation updates, which I hope we can make more frequent in the future. Suffices to say that the situation seems to me to be improving nicely. I'm not sure if you're replying directly to queries in this message, but I would appreciate an answer (perhaps via evemail?). It is: Where is this mounting frustration? As I said above, the only form of frustration is due to the lack of enthusiasm shown by your pilots in engaging our fleets. You accuse us of "raiding your home system with several capital ships for backup" as if it is needed to pacify you. It's not. We just have that kind of firepower at hand. We can summon a fleet of battleships in minutes. You don't seem to understand that we are a corporation that thrives on combat. It's our sole purpose. Don't spin this into giving the impression that we need to bring capital ships and heavy battleship gangs to roll over your home system. We just have the pilots ready in highly skilled and well fitted ships, and when we say "hey, let's head over to hedal and see if nmtz will fight", that kind of fleet response is just from pilots in corp wanting some action, no more. Don't act so smug that we're bringing this scale of equipment. The size of the gangs you've seen lock hedal down are normal for us; you're nothing special. And so far, you haven't delivered, really. You declared war on us. The NMTZ response has been quite small, seeing as when you rarely gather a sizeable fleet against us it is usually under half nmtz, and more 5th column. I'd also, like many corp members above, like to thank 5th for showing a lot of balls in fighting us. We have a fair amount of respect for you now. I don't like repeating myself, but the only real frustration is from your lack of effort in bringing the fights. It would be nice to see some real nmtz action in our timezone (mostly EU). We've destroyed several POS's in hedal so far, and you're foolish if you believe we will let up. We are going all the way with you this time. Not because we're desperate to kill you, or that we're dirty pirates. We're just want some action. And if it's not nmtz who are bringing the fight, we will take it out on your minions in hedal. In my very humble opinion, your goals of securing MH from pirate forces seems to be failing dismally. We've destroyed capital ships, faction battleships, and god knows how many others. Just because we can. So, in summary, please bring some more. We aren't fracturing from the inside. Far from it. We're having a great time killing indiscriminately. We're outnumbered greatly and still kicking ass left and right. We'd just like to see some more explosions.
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.23 16:01:00 - [33] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Of course, no amount of respect for skill or force can change the facts here: that INFOD are pirates, smacktalkers, and liars, and we are not. Our allies certainly know this, and based on what they know choose for themselves who they shoot and who not. We are not jealous of our targets. Neither seems INFOD to be that of theirs... Proof that I am a liar in eve-online. PROOF OR SHUT THE FECK UP. I am sick of you spitting around stuff which is not true because that is lying. Do not spit on my reputation, it will make it personal and than you are doomed.
Wardog 1 Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.23 16:08:00 - [34] Edited by: Wardog 1 on 23/03/2007 16:07:44 Edited by: Wardog 1 on 23/03/2007 16:04:58 Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon I cannot help pointing out that I think this thread very much seems to prove true what was said in the top post about the mounting frustration and resulting smacktalk from our enemies. It is a nice try, and one has to give to INFOD that when it comes to volumes they can raise a mighty propaganda machine, way more powerful than that of any other than enemy I have fought. No matter what differences of opinion or style of fighting, skill and force must be respected, both those of guns and of words. Of course, no amount of respect for skill or force can change the facts here: that INFOD are pirates, smacktalkers, and liars, and we are not. Our allies certainly know this, and based on what they know choose for themselves who they shoot and who not. We are not jealous of our targets. Neither seems INFOD to be that of theirs... I have zero interest to take this to "did not, did too" and thus will not comment details of engagements or battles in public, outside of the war situation updates, which I hope we can make more frequent in the future. Suffices to say that the situation seems to me to be improving nicely. oh ffs eve is broke... anyway, again... Nice to see that the OP has folded to sufficient provocation, you say you will not respond to this thread... but you do. You bash our propaganda, yet yours is no different, more subtle, heavily packed with lies but its all the same. Specificly addressing the fact that you call us liars. I'd accept smacktalkers and pirates, but liars, without proof, is a bit of a desperate claim no? I ask that you present some proof to the public. Or can't you?
Plymer Ization Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.23 17:02:00 - [35] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon [...] no amount of respect for skill or force can change the facts here: that INFOD are pirates, smacktalkers, [...] Agreed on the first two points, and quite proudly I might add. Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon [...] and liars, [...] Really? When did we lie? Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon [...] and we are not. You're lying when you are trying to falsely portray us as liars. In the old-world saying, "Pot, kettle. Black." Your propaganda is nothing but lies, you know you are faltering, and you cannot handle the fact that you are being bruised and broken by a group of 'pirates and smacktalkers'. Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Our allies certainly know this, and based on what they know choose for themselves who they shoot and who not. Your allies may soon decide it isn't worth their time, ISK, or effort to help you in your conceited quest of "purging Molden Heath" from vile people such as ourselves. Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Suffices to say that the situation seems to me to be improving nicely. I would beg to differ. Perhaps you should check your communication logs with CONCORD and note that you have a few more enemies in your backyards. It's you who brought this on yourself - all out war. I'm fairly certain that us smacktalking pirates would have been content with simple skirmishes but now you've opened the floodgates. Perhaps we will see you in space someday instead of letting your 'allies' do the fighting for you. For shame.
Aariss Amarr Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.23 20:28:00 - [36] She calls US Liers... lol that sounds desperate cuz corperations are seeking to talk with us "pirates" and the power has shifted away from namtz.. no no please don't leave... we will give you a discount on coffee if you stay and die .. er i mean fight for us.. Namtz is lossing this war in which they started and they have lowered themselves from their pervibial high perch down to the rest us us SCUM (as they call us) by smacking it up on the forums.. see i knew they would show their true sides.. if at first you don't win.. cry smack cry some more. But to the pilots of 5th column you guys rock.. you sacrafice your ships to protect the very alliance that has brought missery to your homesystem and you guys just wanted to stay neutral... you guys are the true heroes of the evil side of this war.. keep it up guys!
Grant Smith Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.24 00:20:00 - [37] Originally by: betty Lies n stuff I can't believe how much utter bull**** comes from your mouth lol! --- G o> INFOD Director.
Malachi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.24 01:09:00 - [38] yawn Less jibber jabber and more pew pew. Come out from what ever rock you are hiding under and fight.
Isyel Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.25 09:03:00 - [39] United galnet offensives yay. You people seem so desperate. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want both anti-social and social players to grief each other!
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.25 16:28:00 - [40] Originally by: Isyel You people seem so desperate. "Definitly". Desperate enough to pirate in molden heath how we please
Souvera Corvus Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.25 17:17:00 - [41] The skill and courage of NMTZ's pilots is something that I can vouch for at first hand. The incompetence and arrogance of some their commanders alas, is something I've also witnessed at close quarters. NMTZ fleet command is a closed shop dominated by those who only see fit to listen to their own counsel and regularly abuse the goodwill and competence of those who fly under their command. It is a small minded cabal of yes-men who are all too willing to dispense with the services of some of their best combat pilots in order to massage their own ego's with the construction of absurd tactics and ignorance of strategic necessity. In anticipation of some of the more acerbic comment that NMTZ diplomats customarily engage in, can I point out that this message was prompted by the departure of another pilot from NMTZ whose opinion I value above those who see themselves as the leaders of the alliance. It seems commonplace for those who seek to challenge the exisiting order in NMTZ to be abused and kicked out without a thought of reasonable debate. Dissention is not to tbe tolerated within NMTZ, which is something to be lamented in an organisation that purports to support a democratic Republic. NMTZ' declaration of war was poorly thought out as an instrument of declared alliance policy and the tactics of NMTZ fleet command compounded political error with dull and unimaginative intiatives that were designed to avoid loss rather than win engagements. Fleet command console themselves with rigged statistics from the last week of the war, fiddling whilst Rome burns, all the while the forces arrayed against them grow in the absence of a decisive offensive. It's far too early to talk of the demise of NMTZ whilst it has pilots with the skill and courage necessary to confront INFOD still in it's ranks. The fact that this skill and courage is being blunted by incompetence and arrogance bodes ill for the future. Far better pilots than myself have been kicked and I know for certain that another who features large in the killboard standings is about to leave. If NMTZ is to survive it has to resort to better leadership than it enjoys at present else it will find that it's abuse of it's own pilots shall come home to roost in a rather unfortunate fashion. I wish the pilots of NMTZ well but I cannot but object to lions being led by Donkeys. "If man does not know to which port he is sailing, no wind is favourable"
Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2007.03.25 23:25:00 - [42] Post with your main goddamn coward. ---------------- If you're on IE, pretend this is transparent while you get a browser that supports .png.
Souvera Corvus Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.25 23:58:00 - [43] Originally by: Dahak2150 Post with your main goddamn coward. I think you'll find that this is, as anyone in NMTZ could tell you. "If man does not know to which port he is sailing, no wind is favourable"
The Yzzerman Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2007.03.26 06:06:00 - [44] Edited by: The Yzzerman on 26/03/2007 06:04:14 Said by PIE people: After Pirates have been "taken" care of in amarr PIE will come to Molden Heath . Infod You would need to pay us if that " ever" happen. Giving you targets to kill, they must have run out by now in Molden Heath Keep it rolling..
Jaden Brock	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:42:00 - [45] #1 That is his main. #2 What does perforatives mean. Souv, you always did talk above my head.
Tyr Cloudstone Gallente Phoenix Wing	Posted - 2007.03.26 22:06:00 - [46] Be strong Namtz'aar K'in you and your Allies will overcome this threat. Remember, UNITY, amongst your brothers and sisters will serve you well in the coming storm. Tyr Cloudstone
Souvera Corvus Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:59:00 - [47] Originally by: Jaden Brock #1 That is his main. #2 What does perforatives mean. Souv, you always did talk above my head. Sorry Jaden, as you know I get carried away sometimes. As for pejoratives, it largely refers to terms of abuse. You're aware of what and who I objected to and it's that of which I speak. "If man does not know to which port he is sailing, no wind is favourable"
Ricardo ilMagnifico Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.27 11:52:00 - [48] It looks like INFOD enjoy the smak-talk. I'm sure they fight well, but do they ever rise above this "omg we pwn u" kinda thing? Join NKB - Member Corp of Ushra'Khan
shadow saber Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.27 12:02:00 - [49] its only true where fighting 10-1 odds in total numbers and we aint even broke a sweat i cant recall a single op where by the end of it most of us where sober i would have a sig but i cant be bothered making one
Diicc Tater Aggressive Tendencies	Posted - 2007.03.27 12:50:00 - [50] Originally by: Ricardo ilMagnifico It looks like INFOD enjoy the smak-talk. I'm sure they fight well, but do they ever rise above this "omg we pwn u" kinda thing? I know for a fact that when they get a fight they enjoy, they smack in a more respectfull way. It's still smack and I love them for it. Sticks and stones will break my bones but whips and chains excite me!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.03.27 14:21:00 - [51] Originally by: Tyr Cloudstone Be strong Namtz'aar K'in you and your Allies will overcome this threat. Remember, UNITY, amongst your brothers and sisters will serve you well in the coming storm. Tyr Cloudstone
Night Tripper	Posted - 2007.03.27 19:04:00 - [52] INFOD seem to define themselves with their "relationship" with NMTZ. if INFOD could break NMTZ, that they seem to have been pursuing for years, i wonder if they could exist? it certainly seems that NMTZ is something that continuosly troubles them. one of the factors why they perhaps left CA? whatever is right or wrong, it continues to puzzle me why such "big fish" of PvP would chose to fight what their publicity machine paints as such "unworthy" opponents?
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.27 19:20:00 - [53] Edited by: Tassi on 27/03/2007 19:17:07 Originally by: Night Tripper why such "big fish" of PvP would chose to fight what their publicity machine paints as such "unworthy" opponents? This is very simple to answer darling. As you can see in this thread champagne for betty and tass INFOD has put out requests for me finally getting laid by a female. These requests were not only answered by "no". NMTZ simply ignored them! Can't have that I say. The INFOD church has a reputation of bi-curious priests. With our campaign "champagne for betty and tass" our Church tried to break out of this kinda reputation. However, NMTZ did not see the greater good of non bi-curious priests in our Church and will thus be eliminated.
DaMiGe Amarr Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.27 19:58:00 - [54] Originally by: Night Tripper it continues to puzzle me why such "big fish" of PvP would chose to fight what their publicity machine paints as such "unworthy" opponents? simply put, they wardeclaired us ---> My vids <--- latest movie = DaMiGe Control 1
Wardog 1 Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.27 20:25:00 - [55] Originally by: Night Tripper INFOD seem to define themselves with their "relationship" with NMTZ. if INFOD could break NMTZ, that they seem to have been pursuing for years, i wonder if they could exist? it certainly seems that NMTZ is something that continuosly troubles them. one of the factors why they perhaps left CA? whatever is right or wrong, it continues to puzzle me why such "big fish" of PvP would chose to fight what their publicity machine paints as such "unworthy" opponents? You've gathered this solely from the forums I presume? Believe it or not its actually quite hard to kill a low sec alliance. What with the fact they don't need to undock. Do they trouble us? Well they're the biggest supply of targets in the area, who else are we gonna shoot? And no thats not why we left CA. We left for various other reasons, moved back to molden heath and NMTZ decided it would be wise to declare war on us. We've not been persuing nmtz for years. We've shot them because they get in the way, and have done for a while. Could we exist without them? For the last year or so Infod has had its major pvp priorities centered in the Great Wildlands. Theres nout much there these days, so we go play RP with the minmatar guys.
Aariss Amarr Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.28 01:50:00 - [56] Did you know the elephant is the only mammal that can not jump..
Night Tripper	Posted - 2007.03.28 08:06:00 - [57] Originally by: Wardog 1 You've gathered this solely from the forums I presume? yeh pretty much so, you guys sure do put up one hell of a forum fight
Flaming sambuka Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.28 10:42:00 - [58] Originally by: Night Tripper Originally by: Wardog 1 You've gathered this solely from the forums I presume? yeh pretty much so, you guys sure do put up one hell of a forum fight Well if you cant find them on the battlefield, bring it to them on the forums.
Godar Marak Amarr Return Of Red Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.19 08:46:00 - [59] Edited by: Godar Marak on 19/04/2007 08:43:16 Originally by: Godar Marak Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon We would also like to take this opportunity to thank and praise all our allies who have stood together against this threat despite efforts of the enemy to cause discord: 5th Column, Electus Matari, Foundation, and the several smaller organizations working in the area. In otherwords....Infod a corporation of 162 members vs you 513 pilots, 5th Column 284, Electus Matari 187 and Foundation 64 (lolz). NMTZ consists of 12 member corporations, 228 pilots reside under its sovereignty. Hehe, seams like you lost 285 rebels after you decleared war....along with your leadership. The universe await in awe for further clever decisions made by Matari rebels. -------------------- '\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/' Cant we all just get along?

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