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Velsharoon
Gallente
Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.03.22 18:38:00 -
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I Pvp a lot, in fact its all I do, apart from station spinning when eve bores me. Or getting forum warnings while drunk. That aside...
When we pvp we always use voice comms, Ventrillo and TS are mandatory for any Combat outfit of any note. I put it to you that Vivox or an ingame voice thingy will never be mandatory in the way that Ventrillo is.
As such...totally useless and a waste of resources. Now, if your interested in such matters, try persuade me to the contrary.
Note being able to chat with friends is useless, thats why i have ingame chat channels. This is PVP, fast effective comms.
mehs Im just dissapointed that we have this strange duality going when it seems useless
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.22 18:40:00 -
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I've tentatively made it a requirement...but I dont think its helping recruitment.
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ToxicDream
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Posted - 2007.03.22 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: ToxicDream on 22/03/2007 18:46:55
Vent / TS free to join, It costs the Host and not the User.
So no.. I'd not join a Corp which Vivox is mandatory.
I'd Ask they why they dont have a TS/Vent, whether they play other games and so on.
Actualy this is a really good point, would you be offended if I brought up this point on my thread with a similar subject ?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=495488
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2007.03.22 18:43:00 -
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No.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.22 18:46:00 -
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Nope, i prefer Ventrillo anyway.
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Elgar Lightfoot
Lightfoot Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.22 18:47:00 -
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Nope.
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Zia Pow
SpearMint Rhino GentleMen's Club
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Posted - 2007.03.22 18:50:00 -
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Yes.
Someone is footing the bill for TS/Vent. Vivox allows for the cost burden of voice ops to be spread across the members at a very low individual cost rate. It also prevents members from leaving the corp and taking the Corp/Alliance voice ops server with them.
I also expect over time to see more and more ingame features linked to the vivox setup.
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Velsharoon
Gallente
Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.03.22 18:53:00 -
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This is not about cost!
I pay for a Vent server for my old corp and doesnt bother me.
Nor does paying extra for my accounts.
This is about function, use...
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jason hill
Caldari
Nightmare Holdings
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.22 18:56:00 -
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no
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Buzgo Betty
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Posted - 2007.03.22 18:56:00 -
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not enough settings for inbound or outbound sound levels.
too silent without mic boost, witch also boost noise.
the delay between pressing the talk button and showing it light up green is a few seconds witch is annoying
sound quality is lower and badwitch usage is higher than that of our ventrilo server.
if client crashes the vocice chat does too.
crap i would say.
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Torm Ilmater
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.22 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Torm Ilmater on 22/03/2007 18:54:49
I'd probably think a bit more about it if I could use the EVE voice client outside of EVE. Otherwise I'd rather just donate that $10 or $15 to my corp so we can have a TS or Vent server that can be used for multiple games or just out of game chat.
ATM is anyone actually even trying the trial? I'm trying it but I can't find another person with it activated to try it out with. It's honestly a little annoying.
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Latex Sandals
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Posted - 2007.03.22 18:57:00 -
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No and I'd ask them why they don't have ts/vent.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.22 18:58:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 22/03/2007 18:57:50
The main thing holding me away from Eve Voice is the fact that its integrated. If they added a way for me to be on eve voice and able to chat to my gang/corp while I'm either playing a different game or while the node is down (again), then ill consider trying eve voice.
Edit: Oh and not having to pay $10 for every account i own would be useful too.
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Korizan
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Posted - 2007.03.22 19:03:00 -
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Hmmm
Well I remember when 
MMO's (or even Mechwarrior Series) where young and the idea of making voice comms mandatory was blastfemy.
Then there was the battle between Ventrillo and Teamspeak.
Some people would not join if you were using a program they did not like.
And the Wheel of Time turns again ôAll credit to Robert Jordan here just in Caseö
Now it is the battle between Ventrillo / Teamspeak and Vivox.
All of these are 3rd party programs.
Vivox is integrated into the game but still 3rd party.
Would I pay the extra if required.
Most likely.
Cause I was one of those people who would front the cash out of my own pocket for a Ventrillo Server that could be controlled and used by the GUILD / CLAN / CORP.
We donÆt pay for upgrades in EVE unlike EVERY OTHER MMO out there that I know of (doesnÆt mean there isnÆt any).
But a $1.00 a month is not really a lot for a fully integrated system.
But to each his own.
Let the Record / 8 track / Cassette / CD / DVD / Blue Ray or 8.25 / 5.25 / 3 + / USB maybe wars continue.
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.22 19:04:00 -
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Also, it's implemention is rather poor, at least it was when it was tested in sisi a week ago. For example, the current way how to see who is talking is crappy, especially for larger gangs.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.22 19:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Korizan
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The top is not about it being mandatory by CCP, its about you wanting to join a corp and one their requirements is having Eve Voice, would you get eve voice and join the corp or go somewhere else?
If CCP wanted to make it mandatory they could just bump subscription by 60 cents and nobody would notice 
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.22 19:06:00 -
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No. And it will never be a requirement to join the Bananas. But then again, logging in is not a requirement to join us. 
I tried it out and it did the job. But then again so does Teamspeak and the other one I have installed.
Knowing who to tell to shut the **** up is its best feature. The worst feature is that you lose all communication with someone who has disconnected.
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Microsoft Sam
Red Army Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.22 19:10:00 -
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i would laugh at the person or persons asking me to use it then go looking for another corp.
tbh i want to be able to say "oh eve just died" rather than hearing nothing for 2 minutes then losing everything :)
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Amphetaminer
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Posted - 2007.03.22 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Korizan
Edited by: Korizan on 22/03/2007 19:04:06
We donÆt pay for upgrades in EVE unlike EVERY OTHER MMO out there that I know of (doesnÆt mean there isnÆt any).
there are more MMO's out there that dont make you pay for an update then there are that do. Fact is the big games (WoW eq guildwars etc etc) Are games that do make you buy an update box everytime.
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The Pointless
Gallente
Lacks a Point Ltd
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Posted - 2007.03.22 19:54:00 -
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Edited by: The Pointless on 22/03/2007 19:50:41
I wouldn't join any corp that made such things a requirement. It's my choice what I have installed on my hard drive, and what I buy/subscribe to.
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icechip
Caldari
Crazy 88's
O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.03.22 20:04:00 -
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I thought with the eve voice you could accually use a regular phone to call in?
www.crazy88scorp.info(work in progress)
PM me if you would like your Corp to have there own Forums
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Mechanikus
Gallente
Battlestars
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.22 20:10:00 -
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No, period.
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Damon Ra
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.22 20:11:00 -
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never
Current Tranquility status:
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.22 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: icechip
I thought with the eve voice you could accually use a regular phone to call in?
Holy big arse sig batman. Fyi, a mod will get rid of it if you don't shrink it down to fit the forum rules.
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.22 20:26:00 -
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Eh, I would, but the vivox software gets blocked by my uni's firewall, which means I can't use it anyway, so a corp that uses vivox for voicecomms isn't a corp I would be able to join
I'm sticking to the vent server which works nicely through the FW.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2007.03.22 20:29:00 -
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It's simply too early to tell if Vivox will become a useful replacement for TS/Vent. Current bugs need to be squished, and CCP did state that a bunch of features are forthcoming, including the OOG client.
As for choosing a corp, their preferred voip solution would be secondary to a host of other considerations for my choice, regardless of its place in the joining requirements.
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Ma'lice
Minmatar
Sexa Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.22 20:35:00 -
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Nope, nuhuh.
Originally by: Portios Smith
1 v 1 are like sex, be selective or catch a bug 
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Gerog
Gallente
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.22 20:43:00 -
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That's a negative. I played DDO with a integrated voice client. It wasn't mandatory or an extra fee. The problem with that is when the client crashes so does voice.
Vent FTW.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.22 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: Crumplecorn on 22/03/2007 20:46:52
In it's current state Vivox is not the correct software to use for corp/alliance specific ops.
It is more suited to ad hoc communication between arbitrary people.
Despite what the OP says, however, this does not make it useless. The fact that he does not want to use it for chatting to friends does not mean no-one else does.
Really, a lot of heads need to be bumped together in the vivox threads. Hard. Repeatedly. Until they lose enough real life SP that they lose Regurgitating Idiotic Arguments Lv 5.
To answer the question though, it would not stop me from joining as I already have Vivox anyway.
As for whether a corp would make it mandatory, well, if they can't/won't maintain their own Vent/TS server, Vivox is pretty perfect, and within a few weeks a decent number of people will be using it, so quite possibly...
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Originally by: CCP Sharkbait
think the problem is found. last startup now.
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Renosha Argaron
Caldari
The Celestial Free Miner's
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Posted - 2007.03.22 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Renosha Argaron on 22/03/2007 23:17:45
Well i aint paying them even more money for something i can get for free....i personaly use TS , i know the ingame voice thing dont cost much...but im not using it on principle....i pay enough to CCP already haveing 3 accounts.....i sure as hell aint giving them more cash when i can use TS for free
Regards
Renosha
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