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Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.03.23 05:25:00 - [31] Originally by: scabbsssjr Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Neal Cassady flame on I wonder if the mods know your sig is from a **o? Not even a good o from what I hear . Wanna play geuss that **o? I am going with dreamquest? THREAD DELIVERS ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
Paracyde	Posted - 2007.03.23 08:13:00 - [32] Pirates fuel the entire economy, they add a huge gameplay factor which few games have, pure PvP. They are what makes this game more than just warping to a belt and killing NPCs. Pirates are the best thing in EVE if you ask me.
Hyracinth Crimson Squall	Posted - 2007.03.23 15:49:00 - [33] Pirates --> Good For all the reasons posted above Yarrr!
Black Scorpio	Posted - 2007.03.23 15:55:00 - [34] Can anyone come help with my fight ? Please read the Need some help by fellow pirates thread!
Drunk Driver Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.23 16:06:00 - [35] Originally by: Derovius Vaden ...unique items... Do a little WoW on the side, er?
Tecam Hund The Buggers	Posted - 2007.03.23 16:39:00 - [36] Originally by: Derovius Vaden I've seen 3 killmails in the last month where pirates completely destroy 3-10 billion worth of modules, BPO's, BPC's and swag. I can't help but think you people are more than just annoying, but a danger to all the unique items in this game. Stop blowing up perfectly goods you TooLs, makes everything else more expensive for all of us. That is all. I've seen a fair share of whines over two years in EVE where clueless people lose 3-10 billion worth of modules, BPO's, BPC's, etc, and go on posting on the forums out of frustration. Stop being clueless, and let pirates blow up your "perfectly goods", you TooLs. I hope you get ganked and lose everything you own in EVE. That is all.
Neon Genesis Gallente The Landed Gentry	Posted - 2007.03.23 16:56:00 - [37] Edited by: Neon Genesis on 23/03/2007 16:52:39 This is the post of a moron.
Darcy Killar Gallente Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.23 18:41:00 - [38] Originally by: Hypatia Iola Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Neal Cassady flame on I wonder if the mods know your sig is from a **o? Not even a good o from what I hear . i must know which one so i can run out and purchase it... and for the record good and **o don't really mix. whaddaya want? acting? Script? i mean at best you get good cmera angles. anyway. i think the whole Pirates blowiung stuff up is genereally good. with one exception. I WANNA GUARDIAN VEXOR! 5 if i can get it ôPiratesö is what it is called actually. About me! My kills!
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.03.23 19:48:00 - [39] Originally by: Darcy Killar Originally by: Hypatia Iola Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Neal Cassady flame on I wonder if the mods know your sig is from a **o? Not even a good o from what I hear . i must know which one so i can run out and purchase it... and for the record good and **o don't really mix. whaddaya want? acting? Script? i mean at best you get good cmera angles. anyway. i think the whole Pirates blowiung stuff up is genereally good. with one exception. I WANNA GUARDIAN VEXOR! 5 if i can get it ôPiratesö is what it is called actually. We have a winner.
Feynmen Open Concepts	Posted - 2007.03.23 21:59:00 - [40] Edited by: Feynmen on 23/03/2007 21:59:12 A game as open ended as EVE is bound to have players that decide to engage in piracy. One of the fun things about that is trying to figure out how not to get yourself killed by them. Granted, I have been ****ed after losing a ship that took me a week to get the ISK for. But getting mad about it won't change anything. Deal with it. By the way, I do plan on cashing in on my kill rights if possible. "I don't think anyone really understands Quantum Mechanics." -Quantum Physicist Richard Feynmen

MrMann Bastage Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.23 22:11:00 - [41] Originally by: Frito11 Originally by: Derovius Vaden I've seen 3 killmails in the last month where pirates completely destroy 3-10 billion worth of modules, BPO's, BPC's and swag. I can't help but think you people are more than just annoying, but a danger to all the unique items in this game. Stop blowing up perfectly goods you TooLs, makes everything else more expensive for all of us. That is all. I have a wonderfull idea to fix this problem of yours, when a ship pops CCP should change is so nothing gets destroyed :) GENIUS!!! Although it should only haoppen when the ship is destroyed by a -10 Sec Character. Being a -10 must mean that you are skilled in killing innocent ships full of puppies, orphans, and Tech 2 loot. Thus, you should be skilled in making your hits kill the bridge of the ship without destroying cargo or fitted modules. Dear Oveur: Please. Please make it so. I'll throw in a dinner at Iceland's best restaurant . . . . (Is there such a thing as Haute Iceland Cuisine? I dunno.) Cordially, Yer Pal MrMann Putting the low back into low sec.
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.03.23 22:51:00 - [42] Originally by: Neon Genesis Edited by: Neon Genesis on 23/03/2007 16:52:39 This is the post of a moron. Aww now let's not put ourselves down like that. ----- Don't add a pool to sell a house. Fix the windows. Fixed it. Happy? Quite . -HornFrog
DarkElf Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2007.03.24 00:24:00 - [43] seems to be the going trend these days to have to figure out if these are genuine or not. often ppl trying to get the most STFU whining comments in 1 thread. But yes i agree, we should all stop blowing up things in game so there is no point to playing anymore and half the eve customer base leaves (the fun half that is). DE
Nymos Fimbulvintr	Posted - 2007.03.24 09:54:00 - [44] do we know what the purpose for this plex loot was? maybe it was never intended to be sold on the market, but instead to be used for an alliance or similar? now, pirates loot this stuff and surely will sell it on the market increasing supply of rare mods. just because someone moves around rare stuff doesn't mean he's doing it for the market. --
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.03.24 10:03:00 - [45] Edited by: Arekhon on 24/03/2007 10:00:26 Originally by: Black Scorpio Can anyone come help with my fight ? Please read the Need some help by fellow pirates thread! ok man the other thread was borderline.....but now you are just "jumping up and down in a pirate thread " trying to get noticed. sad........... edit: to the OP we are not going anywhere my thoughts and ideas represent your corp
IHurricane Amarr SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.24 10:35:00 - [46] Edited by: IHurricane on 24/03/2007 10:34:23 Originally by: MrMann Originally by: Frito11 Originally by: Derovius Vaden I've seen 3 killmails in the last month where pirates completely destroy 3-10 billion worth of modules, BPO's, BPC's and swag. I can't help but think you people are more than just annoying, but a danger to all the unique items in this game. Stop blowing up perfectly goods you TooLs, makes everything else more expensive for all of us. That is all. I have a wonderfull idea to fix this problem of yours, when a ship pops CCP should change is so nothing gets destroyed :) GENIUS!!! Although it should only haoppen when the ship is destroyed by a -10 Sec Character. Being a -10 must mean that you are skilled in killing innocent ships full of puppies, orphans, and Tech 2 loot. Thus, you should be skilled in making your hits kill the bridge of the ship without destroying cargo or fitted modules. Dear Oveur: Please. Please make it so. I'll throw in a dinner at Iceland's best restaurant . . . . (Is there such a thing as Haute Iceland Cuisine? I dunno.) Cordially, Yer Pal MrMann Edit: Nvm, I misread what you wrote. --------------------------------------------- Living on the pirates edge
eeski Amarr Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.03.24 11:22:00 - [47] Originally by: Derovius Vaden I've seen 3 killmails in the last month where pirates completely destroy 3-10 billion worth of modules, BPO's, BPC's and swag. I can't help but think you people are more than just annoying, but a danger to all the unique items in this game. Stop blowing up perfectly goods you TooLs, makes everything else more expensive for all of us. That is all. ppl always say this and its always the pirates fault (which it never is) ppl dont whine about dying in 00 so y do they whine about dyin in low sec. also please dont whine about dyin in high sec if u got a WAR on, it means u can die in high sec
Gindar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.24 17:08:00 - [48] while some mmorpg's encourage the tireless grinding to get unique items just for the sake of epeen, eve arguably punishes those same people who grind by placing a massive burden of liability upon such expensive loot which can be destroyed or stolen. basically as has been said, the killing of ships, modules and loot rejuvinates the cycle of grinding for isk in a never-ending cycle. if 1 carebear grinds enough for officer mods and a pirate finds him and destroys his ship, the need for more grind arises. if that person quits, someone else will take his place because the money is too good. the pirate and pvper act as agents of inflation control because of this. when the pirate sells the rare mods for ISK it usually goes back into the hands of a carebear who will use it for missions or "pvp for fun" and will most likely die due to inexperience in pvp, or eventually lose them from quitting/node crash/lag. modules are not static and must be grinded (named, officer, faction) or manufactured (t1, t2) there is a common complaint about the emotional suffering and distress such loss incurs. in real life this is a valid argument against the act of crime, however in eve you must learn this: crime is allowed. the criminal element will always be alive, in 0.0 (alliances, pvp corps) as it is in empire (privateers, wardecs) there are no courts. the police do not investigate crimes, unless it is an exploit. in high sec the punishment is loss of your ship and lowered sec status if you do not follow the rules. in lowsec it is tankable sentry fire and lowered sec status, which is insignificant, and in 0.0 the only punishment is lowered reputation among local alliances. if you are a carebear and you are reading these words, read this very closely. there will always be pirates as long as there are people willing to put in honest labor for isk and equipment, so shall there be the criminal element that seeks to take them away through cunning. this is the everlasting cycle, grinding/thieving. you are either using your time for isk, or you are using your brain. in eve as in real life, the most successful use both. pirates rely on their brain. they learn your weaknesses and exploit them to gather isk. carebears always use their time. they sacrifice it to slowly but steadily gather isk. which school do belong to? i hope this has been a refreshing look into piracy, an often misunderstood profession. in real life i know it's different, piracy is discouraged because governments and society prefer peace and order. thus industry flourishes. but even in real life there is crime and piracy, also often misunderstood. the difference is crime and piracy is almost ALWAYS under-represented and downplayed, because local governments do not want to have real-life carebears panic and move to another place with higher security. sound vaguely familiar? it's up to you. decide who you want to be. i'm pretty sure there is no one on the forums who want to be like that guy, a whining carebear who is crying over his losses. no one wants to be that guy, but many guys end up as him when insufficient judement and cunning is supplied. not everyone wants to be the hardcore pirate either, but a little of both can be good. it's up to you, i hope this has been enlightening. Sig removed does not contain your name, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.03.24 17:10:00 - [49] Originally by: eeski Originally by: Derovius Vaden I've seen 3 killmails in the last month where pirates completely destroy 3-10 billion worth of modules, BPO's, BPC's and swag. I can't help but think you people are more than just annoying, but a danger to all the unique items in this game. Stop blowing up perfectly goods you TooLs, makes everything else more expensive for all of us. That is all. ppl always say this and its always the pirates fault (which it never is) ppl dont whine about dying in 00 so y do they whine about dyin in low sec. also please dont whine about dyin in high sec if u got a WAR on, it means u can die in high sec People are always blaming pirates because, well, it is their fault. Consider the two possible solutions to my problem: 1. No pirates, cargo gets to where it has to and prices don't get gouged to cover losses. 2. No cargo haulers moving expensive stuff, pirates stop being pirates because no one wants to waste their time pirating mined ore, people move from piracy to privateering/PvE'ing. Also, I'm not whining about anything, I've not been gatecamping, podded or lost a ship in over a year (more if you include the time I was not in game). I am simplying pointing out a basic fact that many pirates overlook. Everytime they blow up one of their suppliers, their trade gets harder and harder to make a profit on. You would think they would wise up and do like those privateers; blow up someone elses enemies so ISK.
Bodhisattvas mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.03.24 17:32:00 - [50] You guys need to chill.... No need for all this complicated thinking. In a perfect Bod world 1. See ship 2. Attack ship 3. Ship go BOOM 4. Pod the poor s.o.b 5. Collect loot if any Next please.........



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