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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.03.22 19:34:00 -
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I've seen 3 killmails in the last month where pirates completely destroy 3-10 billion worth of modules, BPO's, BPC's and swag. I can't help but think you people are more than just annoying, but a danger to all the unique items in this game.
Stop blowing up perfectly goods you TooLs, makes everything else more expensive for all of us.
That is all.
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Neal Cassady
Shih Yang Tong
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Posted - 2007.03.22 19:40:00 -
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flame on
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Sanctuary
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Posted - 2007.03.22 19:41:00 -
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Constraints on supply of items, especially the rare/unique ones, are a constant challenge in any MMO. Better that there's a player-facilitated chokepoint on such goods than more artificial options like CCP reducing drop rates or ability to get items.
I wouldn't like it any more than you do, but I'd prefer it to the alternative. At least in this system if you lose something it's to player action, and there's ways to prevent it.
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RedFall
Irreligion
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Posted - 2007.03.22 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden I've seen 3 killmails in the last month where pirates completely destroy 3-10 billion worth of modules, BPO's, BPC's and swag. I can't help but think you people are more than just annoying, but a danger to all the unique items in this game.
Stop blowing up perfectly goods you TooLs, makes everything else more expensive for all of us.
That is all.
What's your profesion then smart guy?
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.03.22 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Neal Cassady flame on
I wonder if the mods know your sig is from a ****o? Not even a good ****o from what I hear .
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RedFall
Irreligion
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Posted - 2007.03.22 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Neal Cassady flame on
I wonder if the mods know your sig is from a ****o? Not even a good ****o from what I hear .
They do now.
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AS Patriot
Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.03.22 19:56:00 -
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Hahaha Somebody pod that guy... Pirates have always enjoyed and loved the free life on the hunt for treassures and being hunted by bounty hunters and police force... I am myself not a pirate.. But I think the aspect of pirating in Eve is just extreme well placed.. It would not be fun if you could enter low sec or 0.0 and then people ask you (do you have any very rare items in your hold) and if you tell them that you have then you just pass along.. Pirates make my currier missions SOOOO much fun when I have to enter low sec and escpape from a 10 BS gang in my badger II fitted for a run with 3 wcs and shield hardners and booster :P That was just awesome... The idea of NOT being able to feel completely safe in space is something that makes me log on to eve over and over and over...
Keep up the pillage and *****pirates YAARH! __________________________________________________ The best corp out there:
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Neal Cassady
Shih Yang Tong
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Posted - 2007.03.22 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Neal Cassady flame on
I wonder if the mods know your sig is from a ****o? Not even a good ****o from what I hear .
is that against the rules?
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Arii Smith
Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.03.22 20:09:00 -
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Not at all, the image is cropped in a way that is completely acceptable in the TOS.
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Dread Operative
SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.22 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Neal Cassady flame on
I wonder if the mods know your sig is from a ****o? Not even a good ****o from what I hear .
You might want to check out the results of the 2006 AVN Awards.
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AS Patriot
Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.03.22 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden I've seen 3 killmails in the last month where pirates completely destroy 3-10 billion worth of modules, BPO's, BPC's and swag.
Would you like to post those killmails from Killboards maybe? would love to see them
__________________________________________________ The best corp out there:
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icechip
Caldari Crazy 88's O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.03.22 20:37:00 -
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Well im not a pirate but im not dumb enouph to see the importance of them in the game. Supply and demand. If ppl never loose there ship there would be no supply. Why do you have those BPO and BPC? To make mods to supply the demand. Where is the supply coming from? The piolts that lost there ships to pirates. ^_^
www.crazy88scorp.info(work in progress) PM me if you would like your Corp to have there own Forums
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.03.22 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: icechip Where is the demand coming from? The piolts that lost there ships to pirates. ^_^
Fixed it for you...
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slothe
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.22 21:09:00 -
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whats your point?
everyone knows the risks of this game tbh
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.03.22 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
whats your point?
everyone knows the risks of this game tbh
Apparently Not
----- Don't add a pool to sell a house. Fix the windows.
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Alumion
Amarr Asteroid Preserve Patrol
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Posted - 2007.03.22 21:19:00 -
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The game admittedly is facing an inflation problem, so any and every ISK sink is a good thing. Thus pirates aren't at all destructive to the EVE economy, quite the opposite ---
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VJ Maverick
Caldari Maverick Specialized Services
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Posted - 2007.03.22 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jex Jast
Originally by: slothe
whats your point?
everyone knows the risks of this game tbh
Apparently Not
You beat me to it!
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JoeT
Amarr Nuclear Rental Service
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Posted - 2007.03.22 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Neal Cassady flame on
I wonder if the mods know your sig is from a ****o? Not even a good ****o from what I hear .
I thought it was ok. Better then some of the other ones i've seen.
But if your raptor and 350mm II go up in price, it wasnt the kill i got a few months ago
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Crinos Childflayer
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Posted - 2007.03.22 21:53:00 -
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Imagine this: You have 1 of about 100 of a very rare item. Say it's going price is 300 million. Suddenly, due to piracy, there are only 95 now in existence. 350 million is the new price tag suddenly. So, it's a form of inflation, which in one way or another is essential to offset the constant flow of ISK into the economy from mining and missions. Mining/Missions: Printing Money Piracy: Burning it Everything is as it should be. - "The childrens are so much crunchier if you suck all the meat off the outside first!" -Crinos, The Chosen of Chaos |
Christopher Dalran
Gallente Deadly Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.22 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 22/03/2007 21:52:41 Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 22/03/2007 21:51:39 Well they DO have ship AND carogo scanners if any pirates would ever bother to fit them. If they have something realy expensive in their hold you could offer to let them go with their ship and everything else intact if they just jettison what you want.
Its not like their going to be getting anythign back if you pop their ship, only insurance and frankly ransoming cargo items would probably work more often than demanding super high ISK ransoms under the assumption they have tons of expensive implants fitted. ------------------------------- C.D's Formula for success ------------------------------- Credit Card = Game Time Card Gametime Card = ISK Therefore Credit Card = ISK.
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Joahanas Stone
Caldari Confederation of Red Moon
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Posted - 2007.03.22 22:16:00 -
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As much as I would love to see nothing dissapearing from the game, it is a part of it. As a side note, the devs most likely know when an item is destroyed. The game might actually spawn that item again once destroyed. A much bigger problem for loss of items comes from people who have these items and don't play anymore. I was out scanning with a corp mate a few months ago and found a Cruise Kestral. Has been banned from the game. At one point you could mount 4 cruise launchers on a tech I frig like atleast 2 years ago. I still have the ship in a hanger and it only still has one shot each on the launchers.. can't reload it . With the new rules to scanning and probing, the systems should be cleanned up pretty soon. As for players that have quit, there hangers and loaded ships most likely have more rare items than the pirates can destroy. Again, at least destroyed items are possibly stored in the game data base. As for the last idea.... IF YOU ARE MOVING ITEMS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO LOOSE, OR ARE EXTREMELY RARE.. FORM A GANG UP YOU IDIOT! or at least be smart about it, I use a falcon.
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Joahanas Stone
Caldari Confederation of Red Moon
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Posted - 2007.03.22 22:21:00 -
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OH, BTW... I totally cried after we took out a shuttle carrying a Rattlesnake BPC. Destroyed. would have been good loot
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.03.22 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Alumion The game admittedly is facing an inflation problem, so any and every ISK sink is a good thing. Thus pirates aren't at all destructive to the EVE economy, quite the opposite
You have it backwards, you want this sort of activity during a recession to pull your economy out of a slump. Reducing supply in a market already wobbling under the weight of massive inflation only makes prices worth, adding more weight and making it more wobbly.
(ie: Inflation = encourage saving, Recession = encourage spending)
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Rmageddon
Gallente Crimson Star Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.22 23:52:00 -
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stop whining :p
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Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.03.23 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Alumion The game admittedly is facing an inflation problem, so any and every ISK sink is a good thing. Thus pirates aren't at all destructive to the EVE economy, quite the opposite
Destruction of items doesn't remove any ISK from the game, and in fact helps inflation along rather than combating it.
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Devian 666
Ocean Dynamics Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.23 00:54:00 -
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Yes it destruction of items does help inflation. Inflation is the sign of a healthy economy.
Lets for 1 minute assume no ships or modules are being destroyed. Suddenly we have a large supply of ships and modules on the market with little or no demand. The price of all ships and modules becomes very low with the exception of some rather rare items which become highly sought after.
Basically the industrial/mining income would dry up while limited number rare items would inflate to ridiculous levels. Leaving only bounties and mission rewards as the only method of making isk. That sounds like a WoW carebear economy to me. If Eve ever turns into that I'll leave. "If you had a gang of 81127 kestrals you could alpha strike Tranquility Server into a smoking hole in the ground" |
Hypatia Iola
Caldari Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.23 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Neal Cassady flame on
I wonder if the mods know your sig is from a ****o? Not even a good ****o from what I hear .
i must know which one so i can run out and purchase it...
and for the record good and ****o don't really mix. whaddaya want? acting? Script? i mean at best you get good cmera angles.
anyway. i think the whole Pirates blowiung stuff up is genereally good. with one exception.
I WANNA GUARDIAN VEXOR! 5 if i can get it
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scabbsssjr
Gallente M'8'S
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Posted - 2007.03.23 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Neal Cassady flame on
I wonder if the mods know your sig is from a ****o? Not even a good ****o from what I hear .
Wanna play geuss that ****o?
I am going with dreamquest? ---------------------------
Originally by: Ductoris At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.
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Frito11
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.03.23 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden I've seen 3 killmails in the last month where pirates completely destroy 3-10 billion worth of modules, BPO's, BPC's and swag. I can't help but think you people are more than just annoying, but a danger to all the unique items in this game.
Stop blowing up perfectly goods you TooLs, makes everything else more expensive for all of us.
That is all.
I have a wonderfull idea to fix this problem of yours, when a ship pops CCP should change is so nothing gets destroyed :)
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.23 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: Neal Cassady
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Neal Cassady flame on
I wonder if the mods know your sig is from a ****o? Not even a good ****o from what I hear .
is that against the rules?
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