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Dom Arkaral
Axios
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Posted - 2016.10.22 04:48:16 -
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Welp, it might have been a very elaborate scam.... Source
It disgusts me to the highest point... seeing that this could happen
On the bright side, it showed the world how good of a community we are.
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MAS0RAKSH
Black Serpent Technologies The-Culture
15
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Posted - 2016.10.22 04:51:37 -
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first and we'd like a video from olivia and family that clears this matter up.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
45211
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Posted - 2016.10.22 05:12:37 -
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MAS0RAKSH wrote:first and we'd like a video from olivia and family that clears this matter up.
I'd rather this whole thing just gets dealt with in private tbh.
It's been public enough and the latest developments don't help either way - whether true or a scam.
If it's a scam, then warning to us all and if it's true, then our feelings aren't really that important to warrant explanation.
Just my 0.02.
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Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
519
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Posted - 2016.10.22 07:12:58 -
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Well who ever did this scam should be banned 4ever and all their stuff given to players who donated ISK for it. |
Big Lynx
7540
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Posted - 2016.10.22 07:15:04 -
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If that's a scam: shows the ice-cold unscrupulousness and awfulness of (hopefully a few) Eve Players
If not a scam: shows the sympathy and empathy of the majority of Eve Players |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
656
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Posted - 2016.10.22 08:03:38 -
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MAS0RAKSH wrote:first and we'd like a video from olivia and family that clears this matter up.
If you'd bothered reading the article you'd realise that the whole point of the op's post is that "Olivia" never existed..it looks like it was just a scam concocted to take advantage of b4r and the generosity of the player base.
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2016.10.22 09:13:29 -
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If true, which for the size of the liability that news site just created for themselves you would hope it to be.
Then not only does this need to be a perma ban offense as it was not an ingame scam, but due to the nature of isk being able to purchase real life items like EvE Vegas tickets, the relevant federal authorities need to be contacted. This is real fraud, not just an in game scam.
And extremely sickening. |
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
New Order Logistics CODE.
580
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Posted - 2016.10.22 09:22:55 -
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To the Pitchfork Emporium, off we go! |
Geronimo McVain
EVE University Ivy League
220
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Posted - 2016.10.22 09:23:41 -
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CCP made an investigation and if this really was a scam they should announce it. This is important for the community to know because the accusations are so serious.
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Jevatoxa
Amandla Legion Cede Nullis
44
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Posted - 2016.10.22 09:34:39 -
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If this turns out to be true, it's despicable beyond belief.
My only request is that people please remember that the broadcast4reps community is still there, despite this incident.
I'll still be in the channel, so please don't let this horrific event put you off reaching out for help. We're still there for you. |
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Jita Priceline
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.10.22 11:08:47 -
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I don't see the big deal, this is no better or worse than any other scam in the universe. A couple heart strings were pulled on and isk was siphoned out of the weak masses who felt the need to make some charitable contribution in order to clear their own sins.
Trust but verify, I do hope people don't take any of this out on B4R though, they are still a great organization and do amazing work. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
18743
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Posted - 2016.10.22 11:14:54 -
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Let's not turn this into a Lynch mob leads yeah? CCP can and should deal with this in confidence.
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tasman devil
Puritans FREE GATES COALITION
81
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Posted - 2016.10.22 11:37:00 -
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I am going to play the Devil's Advocate here, but the "if it turns out to be true" sentence should have been uttered the moment the whole Olivia thing popped up.
Obviously no-one question the thing, being too on the verge of PC.
TMC did pull now a big one, I do hope that this in fact turns out to be true (ie. it is a fraud) and some consequence is handed out on the perpetrator. Scamming ingame is all fun and games but pulling one off out of game (especially with the topic of suicide, burning B4R in the process) is not something that should be taken lightly.
I don't belive in reincarnation
I've never believed in it in my previous lives either...
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2016.10.22 11:40:03 -
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tasman devil wrote:TMC did pull now a big one, I do hope that this in fact turns out to be true (ie. it is a fraud)... The reddit thread is worth a read. Particularly this post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/58r7as/i_am_olivia_suicide_was_all_a_giant_scam/d92pf61/
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Smack McBacon
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2016.10.22 12:10:03 -
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Shame the mods locked the previous topic. Perhaps the truth would've become much clearer so much sooner. Instead the 'feel good bleeding hearts' donated their precious iskies never to be seen again.
Next time Olivia says 'i'll jump'. Most of the people here will start to say 'THEN JUST JUMP!' because of the fraudulent things that keep happening. Perhaps all this charity/Plex4good needs to stop and all the charity needs to be donated to my awesome persona and i will put it to good use.
Like #Plex4Bacon or something like that. At least i dont have a sob story, or is that what people need? When you donate you dont interact nor do anything to really help, BUT you can pad yourself on the back at night before you go to sleep, knowing you have done an awesome deed and can go back to your egocentrical life the next morning :)
Donate it all to me and sleep well.
Thank you and die slow. |
tasman devil
Puritans FREE GATES COALITION
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Posted - 2016.10.22 12:20:05 -
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5th of October? auch...
thanks for the thread!
I don't belive in reincarnation
I've never believed in it in my previous lives either...
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Mii Lady
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.10.22 12:45:40 -
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not remotely surprised by this. Saw the original Facebook post at it seemed seedy . Hope the track the isk and ban hammer everyone involved. |
Jagd Wilde
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.10.22 12:58:38 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Let's not turn this into a Lynch mob leads yeah? CCP can and should deal with this in confidence.
awwwww. I just picked up a new shipment of pitchforks and torches.
This whole thing shows me just how caring this community can be when one of our own is in trouble.
every alt I own has a red safety
this has brought my friends much laughter
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.10.22 13:08:38 -
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Jagd Wilde wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Let's not turn this into a Lynch mob leads yeah? CCP can and should deal with this in confidence. awwwww. I just picked up a new shipment of pitchforks and torches. This whole thing shows me just how caring this community can be when one of our own is in trouble. True but these things can (and often do) turn ugly and poisonous to the community spirit. Don't get me wrong now I'm all for a good auld manufactured outrage as much as the next guy, just not when that line is crossed.
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Jevatoxa
Amandla Legion Cede Nullis
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Posted - 2016.10.22 13:36:46 -
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tasman devil wrote:I am going to play the Devil's Advocate here, but the "if it turns out to be true" sentence should have been uttered the moment the whole Olivia thing popped up.
Obviously no-one question the thing, being too on the verge of PC.
It's easy to be wise after the event. I'm just sticking to the facts until it gets confirmed. |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.10.22 13:47:39 -
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Jevatoxa wrote:tasman devil wrote:I am going to play the Devil's Advocate here, but the "if it turns out to be true" sentence should have been uttered the moment the whole Olivia thing popped up.
Obviously no-one question the thing, being too on the verge of PC. It's easy to be wise after the event. I'm just sticking to the facts until it gets confirmed. or OR OR or we dont lose our collective **** about it and go about our day and let CCP do thier thing.
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Gneeznow
Ship spinners inc
189
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Posted - 2016.10.22 13:50:32 -
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This is why I never care when some drama like this happens and politely moon-walk past |
Geronimo McVain
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.10.22 14:12:43 -
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Smack McBacon wrote:Shame the mods locked the previous topic. Perhaps the truth would've become much clearer so much sooner. Instead the 'feel good bleeding hearts' donated their precious iskies never to be seen again.
Next time Olivia says 'i'll jump'. Most of the people here will start to say 'THEN JUST JUMP!' because of the fraudulent things that keep happening. Perhaps all this charity/Plex4good needs to stop and all the charity needs to be donated to my awesome persona and i will put it to good use. Well, nice idea. Because there are scrupulous people out there every charity organization is a fraud? This would really be a victory for the scammer if he not just grbed isk but shut down every real charity organization. No matter if this was a scam but the reaction showed that there are a lot of people out there which really care. Better to loose the money on such a charity scam then on your own greed to a Jita scammer!
No matter if things are true or not: We ALL believed the story because it fits to the behavior of a part of the community! That's the really scary part that we DIDN'T deny it from the start and thought it totally possible that players would do such horrible things.
@ Ralph King-Griffin: Well CCP had enough time to verify it. For the good of the community they should tell us which way the mob with the pitchforks should walk.
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Jagd Wilde
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.10.22 14:34:06 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote: or OR OR or we dont lose our collective **** about it and go about our day and let CCP do thier thing.
Yea, gotta go with Ralph here. I don't have enough info to make any smart decisions on this, gonna let CCP worry about it.
every alt I own has a red safety
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Jevatoxa
Amandla Legion Cede Nullis
48
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Posted - 2016.10.22 14:41:23 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Jevatoxa wrote:tasman devil wrote:I am going to play the Devil's Advocate here, but the "if it turns out to be true" sentence should have been uttered the moment the whole Olivia thing popped up.
Obviously no-one question the thing, being too on the verge of PC. It's easy to be wise after the event. I'm just sticking to the facts until it gets confirmed. or OR OR or we dont lose our collective **** about it and go about our day and let CCP do thier thing.
I don't disagree with you.
The only change this has made to me is that it's made me even more determined to keep B4R going.
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Jagd Wilde
The Scope Gallente Federation
44
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Posted - 2016.10.22 14:59:11 -
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Geronimo McVain wrote: @ Ralph King-Griffin: Well CCP had enough time to verify it. For the good of the community they should tell us which way the mob with the pitchforks should walk.
It's is hard not to react like this and even be a bit justified, but mob mentality is the reason why the guys from Manifesto were under such pressure to defend themselves against what seems to be a witch hunt.
but i mean, who don't like a good old fashioned witch hunt occasionally?
every alt I own has a red safety
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
18763
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Posted - 2016.10.22 15:28:44 -
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Geronimo McVain wrote: Well CCP had enough time to verify it. For the good of the community they should tell us which way the mob with the pitchforks should walk.
The good of the Community is explicitly why they almost certainly will not (and should not) tell us a damn thing. the pitchfork wielding Mob should be reserved for ingame outrage over who shot/stole/broke/said what of someone else not for anything even broadly touching mental and/or emotional health, for a variety of reasons that i frankly shouldn't need to explain to anyone here.
it detracts form an already difficult and highly stigmatized issue and despite the understandable outrage that such a thing may have been used to leverage the community's good nature its still wholly, entirly ,trully and wildly inappropriate for us to be told anything about this.<---------serious emphasis on the full stop.
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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
370
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Posted - 2016.10.22 15:43:09 -
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Ugh....
Dear EvE,
Please keep all arms, legs, and scams in game for your safety.
Thank you,
--Gadget is also Olivia...for the right price
Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
640
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Posted - 2016.10.22 16:26:32 -
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Doubt we will ever know the true motive behind this.
I'm still of the opinion that charity in Eve is a sketchy and grey area unless it's 100% sanctioned by CCP. I fell for it as many others did. When I first read the article I was just sickened and the reaction was remarkable on #tweetfleet.
Could someone hate B4R enough to just do it to trash the brand? Could it just be simply a great con-artist who maybe is a former (even current) player that got some people to give him cash? Put on your tinfoil hat:
Could Olivia have been a goon alt and this breaking, exclusive story is the perfect launch for their new website? Spin spin spin spin - as you can see, you could go anywhere with this.
Everyone is out to try and make a RL buck in the name of Eve Online. In a way, I am relieved she just turned out to be a catfish persona and wasn't actually driven to suicide by the few rotten apples in our dear community. (yay we're a slightly different kind of vile instead!) I still don't like b4r or it's current structure of encouraging the down-and-out to post their RL trouble to r/eve and other public places but I get why they are here and I'll just leave it at that. You b4r types have your convictions and I got mine.
Wonder if this Olivia is still going to Eve Vegas?
What a perfect crime I'm gonna learn how to stop caring eventually.
@lunettelulu7
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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2016.10.22 16:58:26 -
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EULA/TOS wrote:6.5. When participating in any bulletin board or chat room, you may be exposed to Content that is inaccurate, incomplete or unsuitable. You should use extra caution with respect to any Content posted or transmitted on a CCP bulletin board or chat room. CCP urges you not to take any action based on any such Content. CCP will not be responsible for the Content or accuracy of any information, and shall not be responsible for any acts taken or decisions made based on such information.
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Quote: 9. Posting of personal information is prohibited.
The posting of personal information, or GÇ£doxxingGÇ¥, including but not limited to personal contact numbers, email addresses, account names and passwords, home addresses and real life names is strictly prohibited. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy, and will not tolerate the divulging of real life personal details.
10. Posting of private CCP communication is prohibited.
The posting of private communication between the Game Masters, EVE Team members, Moderators, Administrators of the forums and forum users is prohibited. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including support ticket responses and emails) received from any member of CCP staff.
11. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.
Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including support ticket responses and emails) received from any member of CCP staff.
Any action taken will be the result of an investigation conducted by CCP. Such result are private between CCP and the players involved.
I am closing this thread, as it can and most likely will lead to another witch hunt.
ISD Max Trix
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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