Lelob
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.10.29 13:53:13 -
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elitatwo wrote:Zan Shiro wrote:...Before grr t3d it was grrr pirate frigs after they were introduced on the server. CCP nerfed them... About that "nerf". What happened was "anyone know what a Worm is? ...Never heard of it / never seen one in my life..." to OMG a drone can do wrecking shot?? Drone OP, CCP make nerf zee drone. CCP: yeah, no good, drone make wrecking shot to poor faction warfare sissies. How about amputation? After that New Eden got tactical destroyers. Faction warfare sissy 1 flies sooper-dooper slasher and gets killed by destroyer. After that almost surprising outcome only one thing could be true, destroyer op. Fact, there is only one of them op.
Yeah so when t3ds were first introduced, you could literally do a x2 asb, 10mn ab, 200mm autocannon svipul that would faceroll over gangs, for under 100mil. They nerfed them a bit, but it is still to the point where t3d's have completely eclipsed:
-All Assault Frigates -Most Hac gangs that are not cerbs -Most intie gangs -Most t1 cruiser gangs
I'd be willing to bet that there isn't a single decent alliance in eve that doesn't have some kind of t3d doctrine at this point.
I'll just do some of the top alliancess on zkill atm:
Project Mayham (#1 most used ship: svipul) CO2 (#1 most used ship: svipul) PL (#9 most used ship: svipul) Pandemic Horde: (#1 most used ship: svipul) Goons (no t3d's in top ships ) ncdot (no t3d's in top ships ) test ( #4 most used ship: svipul)
Let's look at the most used ships in space atm according to zkill:
Top Ships
Sabre Sabre8,454 Svipul10,318 Stiletto6,501 Proteus3,547 Malediction5,237 Gila2,987 Tengu2,945 Orthrus3,646 Confessor4,178 Machariel3,565 Cynabal3,280
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......
http://imgur.com/a/o5g34
50k ehp before heat, 400 dps, goes 2.2k/s before heat (3k/s with heat...propulsion it goes 3.6k/s before heat and 5.1k/s with heat with a 3.13 second aligntime meaning you are basically top speed in 4 seconds), has a tiny sig, warps at 4.5au/s, aligns faster than inties, is cap stable, has combat probes, an empty highslot for w/e, costs under 100mil WITH FACTION AND T2 RIGS but OH NO, svipuls aren't ******* broken.
Seriously, these nerfs are nowhere near enough to address how broken these ships actually are. The tank is still massive, the warp speed/agility are still going to be great, sure the dps might be decreased but w/e. so you make do with 200-300dps, which is still alot more than anything comparable, you have a massive cargohold, great capacitor life, excellent resists. HELL, you can even lock more targets then a t3 cruiser (7 for a t3d, as opposed to 5 for a t3 cruiser). |