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Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.18 13:08:00 - [61] Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 18/04/2007 13:07:13 Originally by: Taikun Brunel Originally by: Supay Damn, is Taikun still trying to flame every ISS thread going? So, basically you were a jumped up twerp who didn't fit into ISSN, have some kind of major ego complex and now just look like a bitter, twisted nutter who has nothing else in his life to do than chase around yapping at the heels of ISS. Typical. Don't like the message... attack the messenger. I stand by my analysis. And I stand by my analysis that you were not so much a complete failure in ISSN, as, much more likely, a hostile alt spy with a deep seated political agenda. Hell, we had KNOWN spies we fought better, contributed more and turned out on vital operation more often than you did. The vast majority of ex-ISS members and pod pilots who know them wish ISS well in this venture, whether they agree with it or not. Personally, I always saw ISS's ambitions as being compatible with the Caldari State and flet their culture well suited to expanding the States influence in the depths of lawless space. Now **** off and achieve something for yourself you waste of space. Myn

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Taikun Brunel Gallente Evolved Gamer Zzz	Posted - 2007.04.19 05:36:00 - [63] Edited by: Taikun Brunel on 19/04/2007 05:36:34 Originally by: Mynas Atoch Profanity and Trolling The content of one's post speaks volumes about the content of one's charactor. I remember your gang leadership was as vile and profanity filled as your posts here are. No wonder ISS imploded. Effective leadership demands respect. ISS lost the respect first of its member corporations, then of its neighbours. Finally, ISS has lost the respect of the greater EvE community and has effectivly ceased to exist compared to its 'peak'. This is not an opinion, it is a obvious fact. Don't hate me for pointing out the blatently obvious. (About you, and ISS.) Taikun Brunel
DALE0404 Blue Star Brotherhood Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.19 18:11:00 - [64] I am not here to flame, far from it. The ISS is once again on the up and up people!! Blue Star Brotherhood ISS Management
Gallentis III	Posted - 2007.04.19 18:21:00 - [65] Hi All, Seems like this ISS business is a big issue! As a new CEO of a small corp my question really is this still a viable option to invest in after the resignation and wars i have been reading of? I have only just discovered ISSOand want honest opinions, basically is it still going and how do you find out the memberships etc. Obviously I read of lost stations etc but the website above still shows them? Am I reading something totally out of date? Can someone please point me in the right direction as we want to invest but not in something that is basically in trouble? Many thanks and I look forward to constructive advice/help. Gallentis III
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.04.19 18:32:00 - [66] Edited by: Butter Dog on 19/04/2007 18:28:59 Originally by: Taikun Brunel Edited by: Taikun Brunel on 19/04/2007 05:36:34 Originally by: Mynas Atoch Profanity and Trolling The content of one's post speaks volumes about the content of one's charactor. I remember your gang leadership was as vile and profanity filled as your posts here are. No wonder ISS imploded. Effective leadership demands respect. ISS lost the respect first of its member corporations, then of its neighbours. Finally, ISS has lost the respect of the greater EvE community and has effectivly ceased to exist compared to its 'peak'. This is not an opinion, it is a obvious fact. Don't hate me for pointing out the blatently obvious. (About you, and ISS.) Taikun Brunel Taikun, I may have fallen out with ISS in spectacular form, and have a few opinions myself. Buy, my God, I've earnt the right to those opinions given how much I did for that alliance. You, on the other hand, were always a non-entity. An expectant whinger who was like a small but growing tumour on the corp. Your opinions count for nothing, since you were so spectacularly dismal in your overall performance at pretty much every level in-game. You talk about lost respect. Are you a little bitter because you've never actually had it? ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Serena Hennessy Orodruin Galactic Planetary Corp. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.19 19:43:00 - [67] Originally by: Gallentis III Hi All, Seems like this ISS business is a big issue! As a new CEO of a small corp my question really is this still a viable option to invest in after the resignation and wars i have been reading of? I have only just discovered ISSOand want honest opinions, basically is it still going and how do you find out the memberships etc. Obviously I read of lost stations etc but the website above still shows them? Am I reading something totally out of date? Can someone please point me in the right direction as we want to invest but not in something that is basically in trouble? Many thanks and I look forward to constructive advice/help. Gallentis III Gallentis: Please contact Stins for ISSO related questions. He has taken Serenity's place as Finance Director, and fills those big shoes well. For all other sorts of questions, you may feel free to contact either Myself, Dale0404, Count, Packtu or Roger Albany. We are always open to new investors. As for membership, although the ISS is currently recruiting, we do have a number of restrictions on size, activity, resources etc on prospective corporations. Any of the people above can help answer any questions you may have. I assure you, we are still very much alive and kicking, on an upward swing, and most importantly, still issuing the guaranteed dividends monthly on the ISSO shares. Whatever may become of the ISS in the future, the management team is committed to ensuring that our investments remain sound financial propositions, regardless of what certain individuals in the community would like you to believe. Keep an eye out - ISS is elvolving, and we see great things in our future. If you wish to link your financial successes to ours, please, take the time to contact Stins. Serena Hennessy ISS Management: Internal Affairs Founder and CEO: Orodruin Galactic Planetary Corp. [OGPC]
Taikun Brunel Gallente Evolved Gamer Zzz	Posted - 2007.04.20 01:12:00 - [68] Originally by: Gallentis III I have only just discovered ISSOand want honest opinions, basically is it still going and how do you find out the memberships etc. Obviously I read of lost stations etc but the website above still shows them? Am I reading something totally out of date? Yes it is out of date. ISS one upon a time has several stations and excellent relations with neighbours. There was several rounds of IPOs which billions if not trillions of ISK were raised by the leadership for investment purposes. It is all gone now. ISS holds no stations because nearly everyone banded together and chose to evict ISS from 0.0. Why did this happen? Chalk that up to 'childlike' diplomancy. Most of ISS's leadership then fled in the wake of the massive extinction of shareholder wealth. Major point to take away is ISS schemes resulted in BILLIONS of lost personal isk of investors. This is not an 'honest opinion' rather the plain truth and reporting of facts which can be confirmed by simple research in these forums. Taikun Brunel
Taikun Brunel Gallente Evolved Gamer Zzz	Posted - 2007.04.20 01:17:00 - [69] Originally by: Butter Dog You, on the other hand, were always a non-entity. An expectant whinger who was like a small but growing tumour on the corp. Your opinions count for nothing, since you were so spectacularly dismal in your overall performance at pretty much every level in-game. You talk about lost respect. Are you a little bitter because you've never actually had it? I remind you that: Communications that are deliberately designed for the purpose of angering, insulting or instigating discourse is an offense under FTL usage regulations I have no intention of falling for your flame bait. I am focusing my comments and opinions upon the political, social, and economic decisions made by ISS and it's effect upon the greater eve commmunity. You are attempting to use charactor assasination to cast doubt upon my comments and observations. People see through that tactic. Taikun Brunel
Tubiger Survey Division Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.20 05:25:00 - [70] Originally by: Taikun Brunel This is not an 'honest opinion' rather the plain truth and reporting of facts which can be confirmed by simple research in these forums. Taikun Brunel[/quote I believe that most everyone knows that these forums are ridden with falsehoods, rumours, mistakes, and outright lies. The reason people keep pointing out the fact that you were barely in ISS is because the people that were actually actively participating in the alliance are almost unanimously giving support and praise to what we did and what we do. Billions of ISK lost for the shareholders? Those shares paid for themselves over time, and were even reimbursed to the best of the alliance's ability by conversion to the new shares, as I understand it. I remind you that it was not "everyone" who attacked and took our stations, but rather a premeditated offensive by the IAC that escalated on both sides into a much larger war. ISS did not wish to fight that war to begin with, but forum spin would lead you to believe that we were warmongering fools bent on picking a fight with our neighbors. I honestly don't know why you (and basically only you, it seems) are so intent on putting down the alliance.

Taikun Brunel Gallente Evolved Gamer Zzz	Posted - 2007.04.20 07:32:00 - [71] Originally by: Tubiger you were barely in ISS ... ...I remind you that it was not "everyone" who attacked and took our stations 1. 4 months of coninuious active service who made every single station launch and freighter haul to and from empire that was scheduled is hardly 'barely'. 2. Where did I say 'everyone'? If you notice I actually said 'nearly everyone' which is in essence what you went on to say anyway. Your splitting hairs and not getting to the root of the issue. It isn't about me. It is about getting the message out so unknowing corps don't get sucked in by ISS propaganda. ISS lost every station it had. ISS lost 70% of it's entire alliance. ISS was kicked out of 0.0. ISS is now irrelevent except as a glorified delivery service to the chosen few in 0.0. That strategy alone is gona make boatloads of enemies. Not sure how some alliances will feel about ISS suppying their enemies with goods but I am pretty sure ya'll going to be 'shoot on sight' for a long time to come. Taikun Brunel
DALE0404 Blue Star Brotherhood Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.20 08:01:00 - [72] Originally by: Taikun Brunel Not sure how some alliances will feel about ISS suppying their enemies with goods but I am pretty sure ya'll going to be 'shoot on sight' for a long time to come. Taikun Brunel You really have not got a clue have you? By the looks of it you never will. Blue Star Brotherhood ISS Management
Kaganis Warmonkey Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.04.20 13:45:00 - [73] Originally by: Taikun Brunel Originally by: Gallentis III I have only just discovered ISSOand want honest opinions, basically is it still going and how do you find out the memberships etc. Obviously I read of lost stations etc but the website above still shows them? Am I reading something totally out of date? Yes it is out of date. ISS one upon a time has several stations and excellent relations with neighbours. There was several rounds of IPOs which billions if not trillions of ISK were raised by the leadership for investment purposes. It is all gone now. ISS holds no stations because nearly everyone banded together and chose to evict ISS from 0.0. Why did this happen? Chalk that up to 'childlike' diplomancy. Most of ISS's leadership then fled in the wake of the massive extinction of shareholder wealth. Major point to take away is ISS schemes resulted in BILLIONS of lost personal isk of investors. This is not an 'honest opinion' rather the plain truth and reporting of facts which can be confirmed by simple research in these forums. Taikun Brunel
Kaganis Warmonkey Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.04.20 13:47:00 - [74] Sigh I thought we'd been through this already. Originally by: Taikun Brunel trillions of ISK were raised by the leadership for investment purposes. (Emphasis mine). No. See one of my previous posts on this thread. Quote: It is all gone now. No. ISSO is still going fine. See one of my previous posts on this thread. Quote: ISS holds no stations because nearly everyone banded together and chose to evict ISS from 0.0. (Emphasis mine). No, just one of the sides in the current great war, and it didn't take all of them. If you assume that the two sides are roughly even (reasonable guess IMHO), and then remember that there are people in 0.0 who aren't involved in the great war, it easily comes to under half. Hardly "nearly everyone". And that ignores all the empire / low sec dwellers. Quote: Why did this happen? Chalk that up to 'childlike' diplomancy. No, but that's a matter of opinion, so I can't really refute it. But please stop trying to band it around as fact. Quote: Most of ISS's leadership then fled No. See one of my previous posts on this thread. Quote: in the wake of the massive extinction of shareholder wealth. No. See one of my previous posts on this thread. Quote: Major point to take away is ISS schemes resulted in BILLIONS of lost personal isk of investors. No. See one of my previous posts on this thread. Quote: This is not an 'honest opinion' rather the plain truth and reporting of facts which can be confirmed by simple research in these forums. No. It's your personal opinion, which you are of course perfectly entitled to. But please don't dress it up as "facts". Particularly when said "facts" have been refuted. It would help your argument if, when someone counters your points, you back them up in a way to invalidate their objections, rather than simply repeat the original points. As an aside, can both sides leave off with the flaming & smacktalk please? Fairly understandably, people seem to flare up when confronted with a hostile attitude. Reasoned debate, or let this thread die please.
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.04.20 18:04:00 - [75] Edited by: Butter Dog on 20/04/2007 18:02:27 Originally by: Taikun Brunel I remind you that: Communications that are deliberately designed for the purpose of angering, insulting or instigating discourse is an offense under FTL usage regulations I have no intention of falling for your flame bait. I am focusing my comments and opinions upon the political, social, and economic decisions made by ISS and it's effect upon the greater eve commmunity. You are attempting to use charactor assasination to cast doubt upon my comments and observations. People see through that tactic. Taikun Brunel Not quite. What they actually see is someone widely regarded as a 'non-entity', who contributed nothing of worth during his time with ISS, trying to pretend his opinions are anything other than baseless nonsense. I can't see anyone in this thread actually agreeing with you. Including people like myself, who don't rate ISS all that highly. You claim to be speaking some sort of 'truth' when in fact its groundless opinion from someone who clearly knows nothing about ISS, and was never privalege to any decision making within it. ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Taikun Brunel Gallente Evolved Gamer Zzz	Posted - 2007.04.21 13:56:00 - [76] Originally by: Butter Dog I can't see anyone in this thread actually agreeing with you. It is irrelevent if you or anyone else agrees with me in this thread. My comments are directed to those souls to whom ISS looks like a viable opporunity to spent their time, ISK and energy within. I post my comments to emphasise the known facts of the matter for their information, not yours. They can easily discover (using these forums) whether my comments have a factual basis or not. I encourage them to research ISS and their long history of failures and political disasters. Let them make the decision based upon an informed judgement rather than slick marketing and fan-boi commentary. Taikun Brunel
Kaganis Warmonkey Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.04.22 00:34:00 - [77] Originally by: Taikun Brunel I post my comments to emphasise the known facts of the matter for their information, not yours. ITYM: "I post a negative perspective on the matter to balance out the pro-ISS POV generally evident in this thread". After all, the whole point is to not let anyone be mis-lead, yes? Yeah, I'm being pedantic, I know... Quote: They can easily discover (using these forums) whether my comments have a factual basis or not. I encourage them to research ISS and their long history of failures and political disasters. Well, like anything else, these forums should be taken with a pinch of salt, whichever view they are espousing. But I suppose they do make a good starting point. Just have a read in depth, rather than skim. Look into the history of people saying good & ill about it, see if their opinions can be trusted (oh, and where they've gone what they've done since). Also, don't just leave it at this forums. It's useful, but not the be all & end all of fact finding. Quote: Let them make the decision based upon an informed judgement rather than slick marketing and fan-boi commentary. Actually, I agree whole heartedly on that point. Like all alliances, ISS has it's good points, and it's bad points, you should enter any dealings with them with your eyes wide open. And of course, there's the flip side. I'm sure Mr Brunel would agree with me that they should make a decision based on an informed judgement rather than the speeches of doom-speakers & nay-sayers. IMHO, that's a good point for us all to leave this thread. Anyone who wants to join or do business with the ISS shouldn't listen to me, to Taikun, to the ISS, or anyone in this thread, they should go away, do their research & make up their own minds. Good luck to them
Murukan Minmatar Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.04.23 16:46:00 - [78] ISS has space again it seems. So who is up for a recon gang? I'll bring the marshmellows and we'll have ourselves a proper camping trip. Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Antion Gallente ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.23 22:12:00 - [79] We do? Why wasn't i informed!!! ------------------- Vice Admiral, ISSN Thus is our treaty written; thus is agreement made. Thought is the arrow of time; memory never fades. What was asked is given. The price is paid.
Taikun Brunel Gallente Evolved Gamer Zzz	Posted - 2007.04.24 10:09:00 - [80] Originally by: Kaganis Warmonkey I'm sure Mr Brunel would agree with me that they should make a decision based on an informed judgement rather than the speeches of doom-speakers & nay-sayers. As a point of fact, I do agree with you 100% on this this statement. The information gathering should swing both ways. Furthermore, I am impressed at the way you have objectivly challenged by points of view. You have given a balanced prespective and not fallen into the usual forum drivel mode of attacking individuals for contrary presepctives. I respect that. Taikun Brunel

FireFox McProwler Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.04.24 11:07:00 - [81] Propaganda Wiki All I got to say
Kaganis Warmonkey Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.04.24 21:26:00 - [82] Edited by: Kaganis Warmonkey on 24/04/2007 21:23:16 Originally by: Taikun Brunel Furthermore, I am impressed at the way you have objectivly challenged by points of view. You have given a balanced prespective and not fallen into the usual forum drivel mode of attacking individuals for contrary presepctives. I respect that. Thank you. Reasoned Debate For The Win. Smack For The Lose IMHO.
Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.04.24 23:19:00 - [83] Originally by: Taikun Brunel Furthermore, I am impressed at the way you have objectivly challenged by points of view. You have given a balanced prespective and not fallen into the usual forum drivel mode of attacking individuals for contrary presepctives. I respect that. One would do well to remember on the Internet that not all views, on either side of a 'balanced view', are worthy of equal weighting. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - System Sovereignty - Alliance Rank
Taikun Brunel Gallente Evolved Gamer Zzz	Posted - 2007.04.25 13:05:00 - [84] Edited by: Taikun Brunel on 25/04/2007 13:07:18 Originally by: Serenity Steele One would do well to remember on the Internet that not all views, on either side of a 'balanced view', are worthy of equal weighting. Referencing the "internet" is borderline OOC IMO. However since you brought it up... Just the internet? Try "in life" for complete accuracy. I wonder how much faith should be given to online contemperaries who carry out massive fiscal and economic mismanagement resulting in the destruction of billions of ISKs worth of shareholder wealth? I ask you since you made the statement... in the face of knowing that you are personally responsible for the destruction of billions of peoples hard earned isk while personally profiting substantially, why should anyone take your "word" with equal weighting ever again? Taikun Brunel
Quetzalcoatle Silver Snake Enterprise Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.26 05:24:00 - [85] Originally by: Taikun Brunel ...while personally profiting substantially... Any proof would be apreciated...
Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.04.27 20:07:00 - [86] Originally by: Taikun Brunel Edited by: Taikun Brunel on 25/04/2007 13:16:09 Edited by: Taikun Brunel on 25/04/2007 13:07:18 Originally by: Serenity Steele One would do well to remember on the Internet that not all views, on either side of a 'balanced view', are worthy of equal weighting. Referencing the "internet" FireFox McProwler is borderline OOC IMO. However Serenity, since you brought it up... Just the internet? Try "in life" for complete accuracy. I wonder how much faith should be given to online contemperaries who carry out massive fiscal and economic mismanagement resulting in the destruction of billions of ISKs worth of shareholder wealth? I ask you since you made the statement... in the face of knowing that you are personally responsible for the destruction of billions of peoples hard earned isk while personally profiting substantially, why should anyone take your "word" with equal weighting ever again? Taikun Brunel I'd like to oblidge, however I just can't manage to place myself in the Hypothetical scenario you are describing. Can you please explain how your belief system works so as to support you 'knowing' anything about my actions or personal wallet? I'm interested from a purely anthropological point of view. BTW your reference is way off base, although my complements for putting in the effort to find matching search engine hit. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - System Sovereignty - Alliance Rank
Algey The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.04.28 20:28:00 - [87] Originally by: Taikun Brunel Edited by: Taikun Brunel on 25/04/2007 13:16:09 Edited by: Taikun Brunel on 25/04/2007 13:07:18 Originally by: Serenity Steele One would do well to remember on the Internet that not all views, on either side of a 'balanced view', are worthy of equal weighting. Referencing the "internet" FireFox McProwler is borderline OOC IMO. However Serenity, since you brought it up... Just the internet? Try "in life" for complete accuracy. I wonder how much faith should be given to online contemperaries who carry out massive fiscal and economic mismanagement resulting in the destruction of billions of ISKs worth of shareholder wealth? I ask you since you made the statement... in the face of knowing that you are personally responsible for the destruction of billions of peoples hard earned isk while personally profiting substantially, why should anyone take your "word" with equal weighting ever again? Taikun Brunel If you'd put as much effort into combat and operations as you do into stalking we'd not have had to flush you from ISSN.
Oli4Oli4 Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.04.29 23:39:00 - [88] Congratulations to ISS for the succesfull trade Caravan! Next time bring freighters and pew pew
Blue Trader	Posted - 2007.05.01 06:26:00 - [89] Hmmm..,wher's Tiakun. It's been near a week since he posted here.Someone should go knock on his pod and make sure he's ok in there
Morgaaan Gallente Silver Snake Enterprise Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.01 06:30:00 - [90] Originally by: Blue Trader Hmmm..,wher's Tiakun. It's been near a week since he posted here.Someone should go knock on his pod and make sure he's ok in there Bah ,silly alt...oops.. Join us : Recruitment thread Our Corp forum link



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