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Viktor Kruger Caldari Industrial Warlords United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:24:00 - [1] I was reading a recent dev blog with regards to the new mission changes, only to read the author quote what I had said months earlier, ok its worded differently but it means exactly the same, now people in the community are happily quoting the dev, when a normal player had the original idea. TBH judge for yourself and please keep your feedback clean & constructive. reported by Oveur \| 2007.02.21 21:35:37 "PvP" isn't only direct person to person combat, it can be very indirect. Selling an item on the market which somebody buys from you is resulting in another guy not getting a sale. You're competing in price and supply Posted - 2006.10.14 21:22:00 Originally by: Viktor Kruger by defining PvP, some would say it is about ship A fighting ship B, but I could say as an Industrialist I pvp more times than the combat pilots, how you ask?, everytime I sell a product over somebody else I win over another player, it's a form of conflict but theres no ship destruction at the conclusion, but there's still a good feeling that you beat someone else, ok its not face to face like in ship combat, it's the world of commerce, but it's a battle all the same. Before anyone flames, yes the context is different, but players in the community, yes us mortals should get recognition for our originality over the gods (the devs LOL). http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?thread=411535#5629634, this is the original link just to prove im not fabricating or bending the truth, and the devs statement can be found on the dev blog listing. Thanks for reading.
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:29:00 - [2] CCP you really dropped the ball this time. To make up for it, you have only one option: rename the EVE Gate the "Kruger Hole". warp drive active \| nature vraie
Death Merchant InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:30:00 - [3] Not to spit in your kool aid..but CCP/devs/players have been saying that for years. You can take my word on it or have someone who cares a little more about it dig up the quotes but although well thought out on your part its not a original idea. Not only CCP but many people.. I think it may even be in one of Rod Blaines blogs from over a year ago.
Maam	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:30:00 - [4] Sorry to pee on your bonfire mate, but I've heard it mentioned that there are more forms of PvP in Eve than mere pew-pew way before last October. It's possible for a number of people to have the same thoughts about the game without it being plagiarism.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:30:00 - [5] Wait, do you really think you're the first one to say that? I've been saying this for years, and I'm certainly not the first either. --23 Member-- EVE-Trance Radio--The EVE Textboard
Kiviar Caldari VorthosCorp	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:31:00 - [6] The ancients stole all of our best ideas!
Alassra Eventide Veldspar Industries	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:32:00 - [7] I fail to see how someone can "steal" the proper definition of Player Vs Player conflict.
Maam	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:32:00 - [8] LOL, see I posted my comment above at exactly the same time as the guy above and we started out with a very, very similar turn of phrase. Yet I couldn't possibly have copied him! (Have not edited the post, because then of course I could be accused of editing it to fit!)
Maam	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:33:00 - [9] Originally by: Winterblink CCP you really dropped the ball this time. To make up for it, you have only one option: rename the EVE Gate the "Kruger Hole". LOL, that's just plain naughty!
Andicuri Vas Gallente MetaForge Ekliptika	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:36:00 - [10] Are these the same Devs that never listen to the player base? When is your new game title coming out? A V

Pewpewdude	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:37:00 - [11] To the OP, the market was there a long time before you were xD
Viktor Kruger Caldari Industrial Warlords United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:39:00 - [12] So far so good, but in response to those who state that its been said a long time before, unfortunatly I have not seen such posts its a great pity nobody in the community bar a few have actually seen or listened to the original comment, or why would there have been for the last few years Pvpers constantly complaining that the only PvP is ship combat, and yes non combatants have there fair share of complaints too :), but lets continue on with the discussion.
Maam	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:41:00 - [13] You just used the words "the", "and" and "a". you ... you ... word thief!
Xelios Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:44:00 - [14] Quote: but lets continue on with the discussion. What's to discuss? This is all pretty ridiculous...
Death Merchant InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:47:00 - [15] All the really successful 0.0. organization have come to realize that both the industrial and military parts of pvp play an equal role. The least successful and failed 0.0. entities have not realized this.
Viktor Kruger Caldari Industrial Warlords United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:48:00 - [16] Originally by: Andicuri Vas Are these the same Devs that never listen to the player base? When is your new game title coming out? A V They may read our postings from time to time and cut/paste our statements, but actually listen to the player base hmmmm, thats a tough one, all depends whos the flavour of the month :) My new game is called btw S.I.M.S, Stupid Interractive Moronic Strategy :)
Sheriff Jones	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:48:00 - [17] If i say the sun is shining on a bright sky some day, doesn't mean that the couple of billion people didn't notice it too. That's one issue that's known by all, it's hardly rocket science. And after a prolonged time...well...things get repeated, by all people, all the time THIS is hardly plagiorism, which you're basicly complaining about. Check the "ideas" section, it's filled with people who are coming up with ideas with no reward in mind. They just like they're home and would like some stuff in it. Originally by: Curzon Dax 1. I am not singing Ducktales.
Angellyne	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:49:00 - [18] Interesting point, Victor Kruger, aka "The Kurgan" from the 1986 film Highlander.
Viktor Kruger Caldari Industrial Warlords United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:51:00 - [19] Originally by: Xelios Quote: but lets continue on with the discussion. What's to discuss? This is all pretty ridiculous... So's life, but we play along with that game all the same.
Blade Bleed	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:58:00 - [20] Lame, stop worrying about who gets credit for what and just the fact that the game is getting better. If this is so important to you lets everyone give the op a pat on the back for his original idea

hydraSlav Synergy Evolved Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:00:00 - [21] OMG! You are talking about the same subject and it's infinitely impossible that two people will describe the same subject the same way. OMG!! Geez, there is even no paraphrasing in the supplied quotes . And how can you tell someone is stealing your "originality" if you never proposed anything original. You merely described an existing concept. And guess what, there is only so many different ways one can describe an existing concept. == Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
Ozzie Asrail FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:01:00 - [22] Geez... Your ego could eclipse a friggin BoB titan -----
Viktor Kruger Caldari Industrial Warlords United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:05:00 - [23] One of the gr8 things about the forums, is we can drop a bombshell, and enjoy the aftermath, and during the course of sifting through the debris, your wonderful comments I would like to add, the op i.e me can sit back and pick up on all the things said.
Timeto Die	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:06:00 - [24] I thought ages ago when I was a lad playing Elite on my Acorn Electron (I know, I know ... too poor!) that it would be great if you could play against other people. I therefore germinated the idea of Eve, and demand a cut in the profits, as Oveur must have hacked into my brain.
JamesTalon Caldari Electric Fury Corp	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:06:00 - [25] Originally by: Viktor Kruger Posted - 2006.10.14 21:22:00 Wow, look at that date. I've said that before you did, thus, you've stolen my idea. And I stole someone elses by the same statement, welcome to the real world, where there is no more original thought, and virtually everything is just reused over again and sold as something "new" "Return with your shield, or on it."
Viktor Kruger Caldari Industrial Warlords United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:07:00 - [26] Originally by: Ozzie Asrail Geez... Your ego could eclipse a friggin BoB titan Question why Bobs Titan, dont you have one of your own?
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:07:00 - [27] Originally by: Viktor Kruger One of the gr8 things about the forums, is we can drop a bombshell, and enjoy the aftermath, and during the course of sifting through the debris, your wonderful comments I would like to add, the op i.e me can sit back and pick up on all the things said. The moronitational field surrounding a Kruger Hole can be quite strong indeed. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Ozzie Asrail FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:10:00 - [28] Originally by: Viktor Kruger Originally by: Ozzie Asrail Geez... Your ego could eclipse a friggin BoB titan Question why Bobs Titan, dont you have one of your own? <Inserts obligitory OMGTitaninMYpants comback> -----
Blind Man Kemono. Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:11:00 - [29] I'm in ur diktionary takin ur definitionz
Viktor Kruger Caldari Industrial Warlords United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:11:00 - [30] Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: Viktor Kruger One of the gr8 things about the forums, is we can drop a bombshell, and enjoy the aftermath, and during the course of sifting through the debris, your wonderful comments I would like to add, the op i.e me can sit back and pick up on all the things said. The moronitational field surrounding a Kruger Hole can be quite strong indeed. Yes but look, people are getting sucked in :)



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