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Strel Samodelkin Caldari Nationalist Party	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:21:00 - [1] Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 26/03/2007 23:19:30 Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 26/03/2007 23:19:03 Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 26/03/2007 23:18:34 Currently, I simply dislike the time investment it takes after you lose your ship. You have to fly around and buy/acquire the same ship, ship parts, weapons, ammo, and other stuff. How about they develop "umbrella insurance" where you automatically acquire the items and ships the moment you land, and PLACE THEM at the exact station you landed at (or cloned at)? To SUPPORT industrialists, it could automatically buy up the items from vendors within the particular region, using the lowest priced ones first. This could also develop a new industry to work with the current insurance industry. Summary: All I want is the ability to lose my ship, jump into another one JUST like it, and go out there and fly some more! Before you flame. Tell me this: 1. Do you have a job? 2. Do you currently run a small business? 3. Do you have a fiance/girlfriend/wife? 4. Do you have a second, part time job? 5. Do you believe that video games are here for your entertainment and enjoyment? My answer is YES to all five. You must have a minimum of a B to respond to this thread (4 out of 5 questions answered with a YES) CEO Caldari Nationalist Party http://www.eve-caldari.com Eve Online tips now available! Go to the link above!
Asimov Andies Gallente Red Blade Industries	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:24:00 - [2] yes to all but the girlfriend/relationship one and I think it is fine as it is. -=#=- Angry beer bottles make Kaemonn a sad panda NO It's Been Touched
Terranid Meester Knights Hospitalier	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:26:00 - [3] This is EVE (and to get there first) not a game like WoW. I suspect people play it for the harshness like myself. Your suggestion would not be welcome by a majority I reckon. There is however a solution to your problem. Its called buy more ships and fit them up.
Sunabi Caldari Xynomorph Industries	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:27:00 - [4] You could end up involuntarily spending a lot of money if you landed/cloned in a region where prices are high
Nicholas Barker Caldari Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:28:00 - [5] after death you can either respawn with 25% damage to all modules, or can fly in a pod back to your ship and respawn with 0 damage. ------------------------------------- Am Orbitin' ur ship! Gettin' nossed!
Mastin Dragonfly Amarr Navy Runners	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:29:00 - [6] When loss is meaningless there is no challenge, no risk, no entertainment, no adrinaline, no nothing. If you want meaningless death, go play WoW.
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:29:00 - [7] I think you've totally missed the point of Eve. I'm not trying to flame or take the wee, but the whole point of Eve is that everything makes sense and is realistic and cruel, just like rl. If your ship gets popped, you need to get someone to mine the minerals and research the bp's to build another one to sell to you. What you propose is a WoW-style shoot-em-up style game, instant gratification, which is abhorrent to 99% of the Eve populace. --- Originally by: [email protected] Trolling Hi, Marquis Dean You are receiving this notice in regard to the post below... So deal with it.
Galaon	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:30:00 - [8] Just build a reserve ship if not more then just one. Then you only have to fly around once... I dont agree with you that we need a new kind of insurance - just build a reserve instead! And yes i study and have a work. Living in a appartment with my girl and so on. Galaon
Redpants Gallente Dead Eagle North Star Confederation	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:31:00 - [9] You're not the only one with a life. As mentioned the solution is easy. Buy more ships, more modules. Have a ship prefitted. It amazes me how many people are entering this community over this past year who want this game to play on autopilot. EVE isn't easy. Peoples definition of what "playing" this game is, is starting to change. Before I thought playing this game was everything involving being signed in. lately people think that playing this game is only when your mining or ratting, everything leading up to that and in between is a waste of their time. But back to your specific post. I found that I almost never refit a ship the same way twice. Improvements are always made and adjustments come into play. It will do you well to have to refit manually each ship loss. _____________________________________________________________________ "My once immaculate white pants are now stained from the weak and innocent. I don't wear red."
Arii Smith Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:35:00 - [10] This is why I have three spare PVP cruisers, two spare haulers, a spare mission ship (not that I will ever use it lol, missions are easymode to pay for my PVP ships), and a dozen frigates fitted up and strewn about the galaxy. Rather than dumb the game down wise up and do this in advance.
Kiviar Caldari VorthosCorp	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:41:00 - [11] I'd love to see the markets in low and no sec with that system, every sell order being 1 isk lower than the next. All obviously would be compleley over-priced to cash in on the auto buy feature. (not that they aren't over-priced at the moment) Also I love your reply criteria, it is perhaps the least arrogant thing i have seen today.
DiuxDium Loot	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:42:00 - [12] IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME, YOU ARE A LOSER, AND WRONG. This is what you wrote right? Because, it seems like it.. Quote: Also, he didnt even have a Scrambler, so the POS would have gotten away anyway.
BlackMoon Thrawn the Organ Grinder and Company Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:46:00 - [13] I didn't get a B and I am still responding. What happens now mr. forum facist? To the point, perhaps eve is not the game for you. I personally like not having an instant respawn with all my gear. The way it is now also rewards those who have the foresight and resources to fit more than one ship up before they leave. There are definately some things about this game that need fixing, but this is not one of them
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:47:00 - [14] I missed that reply criteria bit. My reply is now: *fck off you arrogant piece of sht.* Just because someone doesn't have two jobs and a girlfriend doesn't make their opinion on Eve any less valid than yours. D*ckhead. Mods don't you dare edit this post, he deserves it. --- Please do not discuss moderation in your signature. -ReverendM
Adhar Khorin Amarr Portsmouth Shipyards Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:48:00 - [15] I have to agree with other responses to this thread; the reason I play EvE is precisely because she's such a harsh mistress. Fit more ships; rule 1 has always been "Only fly what you can afford to lose". I fly smaller ships for just that reason, so it doesn't hurt the wallet so much after an engagement that sees me home via the clone bank. Adhar 8)
Strel Samodelkin Caldari Nationalist Party	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:49:00 - [16] Originally by: Marquis Dean I think you've totally missed the point of Eve. I'm not trying to flame or take the wee, but the whole point of Eve is that everything makes sense and is realistic and cruel, just like rl. If your ship gets popped, you need to get someone to mine the minerals and research the bp's to build another one to sell to you. What you propose is a WoW-style shoot-em-up style game, instant gratification, which is abhorrent to 99% of the Eve populace. You didn't read question #5, son. This is a game, it should strive to be FUN! CEO Caldari Nationalist Party http://www.eve-caldari.com Eve Online tips now available! Go to the link above!
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:49:00 - [17] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Originally by: Marquis Dean I think you've totally missed the point of Eve. I'm not trying to flame or take the wee, but the whole point of Eve is that everything makes sense and is realistic and cruel, just like rl. If your ship gets popped, you need to get someone to mine the minerals and research the bp's to build another one to sell to you. What you propose is a WoW-style shoot-em-up style game, instant gratification, which is abhorrent to 99% of the Eve populace. You didn't read question #5, son. This is a game, it should strive to be FUN! Read my second post. A few times. --- Please do not discuss moderation in your signature. -ReverendM Rev that took you ages to pick up on.
Dr Paithos Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:50:00 - [18] Edited by: Dr Paithos on 26/03/2007 23:47:41 Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 26/03/2007 23:19:30 Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 26/03/2007 23:19:03 Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 26/03/2007 23:18:34 Currently, I simply dislike the time investment it takes after you lose your ship. You have to fly around and buy/acquire the same ship, ship parts, weapons, ammo, and other stuff. How about they develop "umbrella insurance" where you automatically acquire the items and ships the moment you land, and PLACE THEM at the exact station you landed at (or cloned at)? To SUPPORT industrialists, it could automatically buy up the items from vendors within the particular region, using the lowest priced ones first. This could also develop a new industry to work with the current insurance industry. Summary: All I want is the ability to lose my ship, jump into another one JUST like it, and go out there and fly some more! Before you flame. Tell me this: 1. Do you have a job? 2. Do you currently run a small business? 3. Do you have a fiance/girlfriend/wife? 4. Do you have a second, part time job? 5. Do you believe that video games are here for your entertainment and enjoyment? My answer is YES to all five. You must have a minimum of a B to respond to this thread (4 out of 5 questions answered with a YES) Sounds like you're overcommitted... If you want replacement ships and mods, you're either going to have to do it yourself, or pay someone to do it for you, like in your insurance idea, but with other players (grimy unemployed ones who stay in their parents basements, preferrably). Edit: Wouldn't this just let you buy gtcs with money from your two jobs and business, sell them for isk, and then have an infinite ship supply and be unbeatable? Good idea... for you.
BlackMoon Thrawn the Organ Grinder and Company Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:51:00 - [19] Originally by: Marquis Dean I missed that reply criteria bit. My reply is now: *fck off you arrogant piece of sht.* Just because someone doesn't have two jobs and a girlfriend doesn't make their opinion on Eve any less valid than yours. D*ckhead. Mods don't you dare edit this post, he deserves it. I would put that in my sig if I thought it would survive
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:52:00 - [20] Originally by: BlackMoon Thrawn Originally by: Marquis Dean I missed that reply criteria bit. My reply is now: *fck off you arrogant piece of sht.* Just because someone doesn't have two jobs and a girlfriend doesn't make their opinion on Eve any less valid than yours. D*ckhead. Mods don't you dare edit this post, he deserves it. I would put that in my sig if I thought it would survive I've tweaked it a bit so I don't get another forum warning. --- Please do not discuss moderation in your signature. -ReverendM Rev that took you ages to pick up on.
Strel Samodelkin Caldari Nationalist Party	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:53:00 - [21] Originally by: BlackMoon Thrawn I didn't get a B and I am still responding. What happens now mr. forum facist? To the point, perhaps eve is not the game for you. I personally like not having an instant respawn with all my gear. The way it is now also rewards those who have the foresight and resources to fit more than one ship up before they leave. There are definately some things about this game that need fixing, but this is not one of them Why do you wish to force your playing style on me, then, son? I respect the fact that you like not having the instant respawn, but why should that be why I shouldn't have one? CEO Caldari Nationalist Party http://www.eve-caldari.com Eve Online tips now available! Go to the link above!
Kiviar Caldari VorthosCorp	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:53:00 - [22] Originally by: Dr Paithos Sounds like you're overcommitted... Or under medicated. =(

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:53:00 - [23] EVE is designed to be a dark and harsh world, I personally don't mind games with low or no penalty for death, but that wouldn't be EVE. The rule here is, if you can't afford to lose it, don't fly it. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:55:00 - [24] It's ok Wrangler, you don't have to be polite. None of us are. --- Please do not discuss moderation in your signature. -ReverendM Rev that took you ages to pick up on.
Strel Samodelkin Caldari Nationalist Party	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:59:00 - [25] Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE is designed to be a dark and harsh world, I personally don't mind games with low or no penalty for death, but that wouldn't be EVE. The rule here is, if you can't afford to lose it, don't fly it. Yes, harsh is good. But harsh should not be BOOOOOOOORIIIING. I mean refitting the same ship and flying 20 jumps to buy the same ships and spending four hours doing it all is BOOOOORIING!!! CEO Caldari Nationalist Party http://www.eve-caldari.com Eve Online tips now available! Go to the link above!
Esurnir Amarr Bears Inc FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.27 00:01:00 - [26] You didn't had a spare ship ? Some spare module to refit a replacement ship ? That could have saved lot of jumps. ---- Quote: Thou shall pew pew. Book of Revelation 12, 51
BlackMoon Thrawn the Organ Grinder and Company Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.27 00:03:00 - [27] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Originally by: BlackMoon Thrawn I didn't get a B and I am still responding. What happens now mr. forum facist? To the point, perhaps eve is not the game for you. I personally like not having an instant respawn with all my gear. The way it is now also rewards those who have the foresight and resources to fit more than one ship up before they leave. There are definately some things about this game that need fixing, but this is not one of them Why do you wish to force your playing style on me, then, son? I respect the fact that you like not having the instant respawn, but why should that be why I shouldn't have one? I think you're a little confused "son", I'm not forcing anything on you. Just stating that this is the way the game is, people like it and if you don't, then find a game you do.

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.03.27 00:05:00 - [28] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE is designed to be a dark and harsh world, I personally don't mind games with low or no penalty for death, but that wouldn't be EVE. The rule here is, if you can't afford to lose it, don't fly it. Yes, harsh is good. But harsh should not be BOOOOOOOORIIIING. I mean refitting the same ship and flying 20 jumps to buy the same ships and spending four hours doing it all is BOOOOORIING!!! Well, tbh, if you die in EVE, and immediately respawn with the same ship at the nearest station or similar, combat would be about as fun as an arcade game. You might get enjoyment out of it at the moment and then you'd quickly move on, you would never feel the same adrenalin rush if you didn't actually risk anything. Plus, the economy in EVE would most likely collapse. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

c0rn1 Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A	Posted - 2007.03.27 00:06:00 - [29] 1: yes 2: yes 3: yes 4: no, my company runs well 5: yes It's fine as it is I say :) x x x x x x x x x x x x x x Life's a waste of time ...
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings Myriad Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.27 00:06:00 - [30] Originally by: Marquis Dean I think you've totally missed the point of Eve. I'm not trying to flame or take the wee, but the whole point of Eve is that everything makes sense and is realistic and cruel, just like rl. If your ship gets popped, you need to get someone to mine the minerals and research the bp's to build another one to sell to you. What you propose is a WoW-style shoot-em-up style game, instant gratification, which is abhorrent to 99% of the Eve populace. Very well said. 95% of EVE for me and most of the other 0.0 dwellers is the fact that if you screw up you actually lose time and effort. Really pushes you to do better and results in one hell of a rush. That and if you screw your opponent up they'll face the same loss ^^ "course they should understand this going into .4 and lower which makes it fine". Also would like to add that i don't qualify for most of the questions on that list. However i play and pay for EVE, and that makes my opinion every bit as valid as yours. ______________________ Interested?

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