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Morn Judith Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.27 04:54:00 - [61] Originally by: Kylana Darkfate Originally by: Morn Judith Edited by: Morn Judith on 27/03/2007 04:35:24 Originally by: Marquis Dean Edited by: Marquis Dean on 26/03/2007 23:47:04 I missed that reply criteria bit. My reply is now: *fck off you arrogant piece of sht.* Just because someone doesn't have two jobs and a girlfriend doesn't make their opinion on Eve any less valid than yours. Dckhead. Mods plz kill this useless thread. That right there sums up exactly how I feel. I may have to save this quote and use it in every flippin' thread that this guys starts. Edit: By the way, that may be one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. If you don't have to work for it, then why the hell would you care if you lost it? And what would happen if you didn't have the isk needed to buy everything? No. Just. . . no. I find it quite funny how the only people who are getting offended by his "criteria" are the losers it applies to. Those who actually have said things find it humorous. Losers? See, you just put yourself on the same level as the OP. So, you're implying that if I can't answer yes to his questions, that I am a loser? I think you're attempting to offend a significant portion of our fellow players. My point in agreeing with the person that I quoted is simply that by requiring anyone replying to the OP to live up to his* standards is more arogant than Tom Cruise. According to you Kylana, I may be a loser. And according to the OP, my opinion may not count if I do not have what he has. I am not even going to state what I do and do not have. All that matters (for anyone playing) is that I have a computer that connects to the internet and some form of income that allows me to pay at least 1 subscription bill to CCP per month. If you can do that (and provided you aren't a macroer/farmer of some sort) then your opinion sure as HELL matters.
Tek'a Rain Gallente Isis Technologies	Posted - 2007.03.27 05:05:00 - [62] I blame the wacky caldari nationalist movement. sure, it might be easymode, but I think it got to the poor guys brains.. well, into his head at the least.
Kylana Darkfate Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.27 05:06:00 - [63] Originally by: Morn Judith Losers? See, you just put yourself on the same level as the OP. So, you're implying that if I can't answer yes to his questions, that I am a loser? I think you're attempting to offend a significant portion of our fellow players. My point in agreeing with the person that I quoted is simply that by requiring anyone replying to the OP to live up to his standards is more arogant than Tom Cruise. According to you Kylana, I may be a loser. And according to the OP, my opinion may not count if I do not have what he has. I am not even going to state what I do and do not have. All that matters (for anyone playing) is that I have a computer that connects to the internet and some form of income that allows me to pay at least 1 subscription bill to CCP per month. If you can do that (and provided you aren't a macroer/farmer of some sort) then your opinion sure as HELL matters. Good reply. It's just getting VERY hard to to pick out decent people from the sea of morons that are the Eve forums. -------------------------------- "You see, no one would surrender to the Dread Pirate Westley." ...Well how about the Dread Pirate Kylana? ^_^
Rex Brutox	Posted - 2007.03.27 06:38:00 - [64] To OP: I guess you have a home station where you keep most of your stuff and from where you go out and pick a fight? Now, buy orders can be your friend. Just set a bunch of buy orders for the stuff you use the most. Let other players work for you. If you set the price at a reasonable level, voilß. When you next time log on you have all the fittings and ships you need right there waiting for you in your hangar. Spend few minutes fitting a few ships, go out and fight, lose ship, put up another set of buy orders and go to bed. Rinse and repeat.
Nicocat Caldari NASA Navy	Posted - 2007.03.27 07:09:00 - [65] The OP is a flaming pile of infinite failure. I have a job, and I like games. I fail all three other criteria. I'm still posting, you waste of space, simply to say that I wish to find you and blast you back to hell over and over again just to teach you what "This is not WoW" means. You DO have the ability to jump into a fresh ship just like the one you lost... if you bought and fit the damn thing. Tough. Also, you should be shot for what you did to those EvE player guides. Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY Down with alts! One character per account per IP!
Strel Samodelkin Caldari Nationalist Party	Posted - 2007.03.27 07:13:00 - [66] Originally by: Rex Brutox To OP: I guess you have a home station where you keep most of your stuff and from where you go out and pick a fight? Now, buy orders can be your friend. Just set a bunch of buy orders for the stuff you use the most. Let other players work for you. If you set the price at a reasonable level, voilß. When you next time log on you have all the fittings and ships you need right there waiting for you in your hangar. Spend few minutes fitting a few ships, go out and fight, lose ship, put up another set of buy orders and go to bed. Rinse and repeat. Who's to say I won't be too busy the next day? I have a couple hours, for example, I want to spend it flying, not outfitting a lost ship. CEO Caldari Nationalist Party http://www.eve-caldari.com Eve Online tips now available! Go to the link above!
Strel Samodelkin Caldari Nationalist Party	Posted - 2007.03.27 07:16:00 - [67] Originally by: Nicocat The OP is a flaming pile of infinite failure. I have a job, and I like games. I fail all three other criteria. I'm still posting, you waste of space, simply to say that I wish to find you and blast you back to hell over and over again just to teach you what "This is not WoW" means. You DO have the ability to jump into a fresh ship just like the one you lost... if you bought and fit the damn thing. Tough. Also, you should be shot for what you did to those EvE player guides. Sorry, but you rated a 2/5, that is 40%, basically an F. My academic requirements are much higher than yours, so it would have been best that you not posted at all. By the way, I don't play WoW. CEO Caldari Nationalist Party http://www.eve-caldari.com Eve Online tips now available! Go to the link above!
Maam	Posted - 2007.03.27 07:17:00 - [68] I hate the running around you have to do to refit your new ship after one is lost. Therefore I try not to lose ships too often! If I want a pure fun gaming experience, I fire up the X-Box 360 or a single player game on my PC. Eve isn't always fun, but it's an adrenaline rush you simply don't get from games that aren't MMOG. And in Eve you are really pumping because death is a real, real pain in the arse. Don't change that.
Timeto Die	Posted - 2007.03.27 07:21:00 - [69] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Sorry, but you rated a 2/5, that is 40%, basically an F. My academic requirements are much higher than yours, so it would have been best that you not posted at all. By the way, I don't play WoW. Ah, I get it. This is roleplay right, and you're in the character of a ruthless far right neo conservative? If you tried harder at #2 "running your own business", you wouldn't need #4 "a second job", so then we'd only have 4 criteria to meet your exacting posting standards. See, I've already shaved a fifth of effort needed to be able to reply!
Noluck Ned FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.27 07:32:00 - [70] NO I will give one single reason: If you take your fleet to seige an enemies system and lock it down then simply allowing their ships to respawn in station allows them to be refitted and back in the fight with no significant time out of action. Whereas the seiging force will need to fly back from wherever they are podded to. EVE is all about logistics, if you are properly prepared you will have a MINIMUM of two fitted ships ready to roll and in most cases several more. I personally keep 3 fitted BS and several BC/HAC/Dictor/Ceptors in my hangar so I can get back in the action as fast as possible, I suggest you do the same. F4T4L Recruitment
Strel Samodelkin Caldari Nationalist Party	Posted - 2007.03.27 07:33:00 - [71] Originally by: Timeto Die Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Sorry, but you rated a 2/5, that is 40%, basically an F. My academic requirements are much higher than yours, so it would have been best that you not posted at all. By the way, I don't play WoW. Ah, I get it. This is roleplay right, and you're in the character of a ruthless far right neo conservative? If you tried harder at #2 "running your own business", you wouldn't need #4 "a second job", so then we'd only have 4 criteria to meet your exacting posting standards. See, I've already shaved a fifth of effort needed to be able to reply! To clarify, it is not my own business, but I administer it and manage day to day operations. My second (part time) job is related to professional event organizing, and I enjoy it A LOT. In fact, I'd rather be doing it full time eventually. I won't clarify beyond that, at this time. By the way, contrary to popular belief, not all businesspeople make A LOT of money doing it. CEO Caldari Nationalist Party http://www.eve-caldari.com Eve Online tips now available! Go to the link above!
Strel Samodelkin Caldari Nationalist Party	Posted - 2007.03.27 07:35:00 - [72] Originally by: Noluck Ned NO I will give one single reason: If you take your fleet to seige an enemies system and lock it down then simply allowing their ships to respawn in station allows them to be refitted and back in the fight with no significant time out of action. Whereas the seiging force will need to fly back from wherever they are podded to. EVE is all about logistics, if you are properly prepared you will have a MINIMUM of two fitted ships ready to roll and in most cases several more. I personally keep 3 fitted BS and several BC/HAC/Dictor/Ceptors in my hangar so I can get back in the action as fast as possible, I suggest you do the same. Well, the attacking side is typically at a disadvantage, so this seems fair. The part about the attacking force flying all the way back, well they could always implement "forward outposts" or something of that nature to mitigate the attacker disadvantage slightly. CEO Caldari Nationalist Party http://www.eve-caldari.com Eve Online tips now available! Go to the link above!
Tissa Minmatar UK Corp FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.27 07:36:00 - [73] I fail the op's criteria because it's teh sechsist with the number 3 thing and apparently housewives are supposed to spend all day washing socks and baking and all night listening patently to the answer to "how was your day dear" rather than play eve. My views do not represent those of my corp or alliance. (Joined UKC 19/09/06)
Rex Brutox	Posted - 2007.03.27 07:48:00 - [74] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Originally by: Rex Brutox Just set a bunch of buy orders for the stuff you use the most. Let other players work for you. If you set the price at a reasonable level, voilß. When you next time log on you have all the fittings and ships you need right there waiting for you in your hangar. Spend few minutes fitting a few ships, go out and fight, lose ship, put up another set of buy orders and go to bed. Rinse and repeat. Who's to say I won't be too busy the next day? I have a couple hours, for example, I want to spend it flying, not outfitting a lost ship. Most players only have couple hours. Setting up buy orders and fitting a ship does not take more than a few minutes. You don't have to be online every day. The buy orders are there available even when you have logged off. Other players bring you the stuff you need, right to your hangar. All you have to do is fit the ship. Few minutes chore. It will take longer to make 10 jumps than fit a ship...
Novina Agrari	Posted - 2007.03.27 07:51:00 - [75] Fly cheaper ships. I have about a billion in liquid ISK. I fly BCs, T2 frigs, and T1 cruisers for PVP kicks. If you're running with a corp/alliance that requires you to field T2 BSes or the like, you can't complain about the loss - if you don't have that much time to play, you're in the wrong corp/alliance with those risks.
Strel Samodelkin Caldari Nationalist Party	Posted - 2007.03.27 07:53:00 - [76] Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 27/03/2007 07:51:39 Originally by: Tissa I fail the op's criteria because it's teh sechsist with the number 3 thing and apparently housewives are supposed to spend all day washing socks and baking and all night listening patently to the answer to "how was your day dear" rather than play eve. Well, that depends. 1) Do you have any kids? 2) Do you cook GOOD or does your husband need to invest your time in some courses? 3) How big is the house? 4) Are you doing everything possible to cut back his stress levels? CEO Caldari Nationalist Party http://www.eve-caldari.com Eve Online tips now available! Go to the link above!
Motorcycle Emptiness Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.03.27 07:56:00 - [77] On one of my old trial accounts I just bought 5 ships, fitted them all out then took them to whatever station I was operating out of :) if you want insta-fitted ships try storing your fittings for each setup in a little container, then you can just spam 'fit to active ship' and it's done. Flashing White Box (rank 1)
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.27 08:16:00 - [78] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/03/2007 08:41:35 I don't see how not having much time to play Eve affects how much the death penalty affects you. The ratio between earning ISK and losing it in combat is probably quite similar if you spend five hours a day playing or five hours a week. The tough death penalty is one of the best things about Eve, and for the record isn't nearly as harsh now as it was when Eve was first released. Victory is meaningless without the risk of defeat. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Zaqar	Posted - 2007.03.27 08:23:00 - [79] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Originally by: Nicocat The OP is a flaming pile of infinite failure. I have a job, and I like games. I fail all three other criteria. I'm still posting, you waste of space, simply to say that I wish to find you and blast you back to hell over and over again just to teach you what "This is not WoW" means. You DO have the ability to jump into a fresh ship just like the one you lost... if you bought and fit the damn thing. Tough. Also, you should be shot for what you did to those EvE player guides. Sorry, but you rated a 2/5, that is 40%, basically an F. My academic requirements are much higher than yours, so it would have been best that you not posted at all. By the way, I don't play WoW. Mods, could we get this obvious flamebait locked please? Thanks :)
Tissa Minmatar UK Corp FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.27 08:26:00 - [80] Edited by: Tissa on 27/03/2007 08:22:22 I thought right wingers were for the death penalty. My views do not represent those of my corp or alliance. (Joined UKC 19/09/06)
Shadowsword The Scope	Posted - 2007.03.27 08:36:00 - [81] Ship losses/time penalty when you die too harsh? No, for reasons explained above. SP loss when you die without an updated clone too harsh? Imho, yes. I think the game should prevent you to put your clone in a station without a medical bay. Bad things can happen when you're forced to exit a station without a clone, I know this from painful experience... ------------------------------------------ A big nuke may be nice in a strategy game, but something like this in a game where every unit is a player, and each death costly, is insane.
Mastin Dragonfly Amarr Navy Runners	Posted - 2007.03.27 08:40:00 - [82] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 27/03/2007 07:51:39 Originally by: Tissa I fail the op's criteria because it's teh sechsist with the number 3 thing and apparently housewives are supposed to spend all day washing socks and baking and all night listening patently to the answer to "how was your day dear" rather than play eve. Well, that depends. 1) Do you have any kids? 2) Do you cook GOOD or does your husband need to invest your time in some courses? 3) How big is the house? 4) Are you doing everything possible to cut back his stress levels? You, sir, just disqualified yourself from any rational discussions. I thought ultraconservatist, right-wing religious bigots like you weren't allowed to use anything powered by electricity.
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2007.03.27 08:44:00 - [83] I play eve for one reason: DYING MEANS SOMETHING! games like Jumpgate were BRILLIANT, but they lacked one thing, a penalty for dying. Your signature is inappropriate. Please read the forum rules before reposting- Tirg
Auron Shadowbane	Posted - 2007.03.27 08:57:00 - [84] HAHA damn n00b! You're suggesting a thing that is already in game! It's called "blueprint original". Whenever I want to PVP/know I risk beeing killed I just buy (or search my hugh library) for the shipitting bpos. Then I buy some minerals and produce them 2-10fold (depending on the %-chance of loosing it). Compared to WoW-ish corpse runs I even save time (about 30s-2min of fitting a ship in speed mode :D ). If you can't afford the needed BPOs, dont fly it. If that sounds unfair cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it...
V00DOO MAN	Posted - 2007.03.27 08:59:00 - [85] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Originally by: Rex Brutox To OP: I guess you have a home station where you keep most of your stuff and from where you go out and pick a fight? Now, buy orders can be your friend. Just set a bunch of buy orders for the stuff you use the most. Let other players work for you. If you set the price at a reasonable level, voilß. When you next time log on you have all the fittings and ships you need right there waiting for you in your hangar. Spend few minutes fitting a few ships, go out and fight, lose ship, put up another set of buy orders and go to bed. Rinse and repeat. Who's to say I won't be too busy the next day? I have a couple hours, for example, I want to spend it flying, not outfitting a lost ship. Just stfu and quit the game already, the game wount change just to suit your needs. Adapt or f**k off
Timeto Die	Posted - 2007.03.27 09:01:00 - [86] Edited by: Timeto Die on 27/03/2007 08:57:36 Originally by: Auron Shadowbane If you can't afford the needed BPOs, dont fly it. You've just taken the game to a whole new level of difficulty! ----------------------------------------------- You want soft toilet paper? Go play WoW. This is hotel bastardo. ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- You want soft toilet paper? Go play WoW. This is hotel bastardo. -----------------------------------------------
Karim alRashid	Posted - 2007.03.27 09:07:00 - [87] IMHO, death penalty in EVE is not big enough - you die and minutes later you're back in the same fight - no money lost, no skills lost, ship loss greatly offset by insurance. Cheap equiment and no implants and you can play the game like Quake III. No wonder many do.
Mashie Saldana Hooligans Of War	Posted - 2007.03.27 09:08:00 - [88] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin By the way, I don't play WoW. Considering you prefer to log off to save your hard earned ISK you might just as well play WoW instead as that seems to be more your level. BTW, point 2 and 4 in your list are irrelevant if you got point 1 right in the first place. We're sorry, something happened.
Brixer Dai Dai Hai	Posted - 2007.03.27 09:09:00 - [89] Next time you are going to fit a ship buy 3X of each module and 3 ships. Set death-clone to that location and voila. If you don't hyave the isk to invest in 3 ships you are sp0ending too much time in your RL
Timeto Die	Posted - 2007.03.27 09:12:00 - [90] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Originally by: Timeto Die Ah, I get it. This is roleplay right, and you're in the character of a ruthless far right neo conservative? If you tried harder at #2 "running your own business", you wouldn't need #4 "a second job", so then we'd only have 4 criteria to meet your exacting posting standards. See, I've already shaved a fifth of effort needed to be able to reply! To clarify, it is not my own business, but I administer it and manage day to day operations. By your logic I run a large multinational mega corp. Apart from the fact it's someone else's business and I just work there! ----------------------------------------------- You want soft toilet paper? Go play WoW. This is hotel bastardo. -----------------------------------------------

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