EVE Search - Thank you CCP! This is so much fun!

Check My IP Information

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Thank you CCP! This is so much fun!

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 3 [4] :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Sisco Deivas Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.30 12:10:00 - [91] Originally by: Maam Originally by: Kerfira It would be nice to have major fleet battles without lag, but I honestly don't see it happening anytime soon.... Fair enough. Then CCP should stop advertising huge fleet battles as a feature of the game. Out of interest, has a Dev Blog ever covered what causes the lag in large engagements, and what they are doing about it? CPU? Memory? Network Bandwidth? It's only an advertisement, invitation to treat etc.. advertisements are allowed to go above and beyond what they're trying to describe aslong as they don't cross certain boundaries. On british television there's a car that turns into a transformer and skates around an ice rink, would you sue the company because your car didn't do that?... ofcourse you dont. It's not false advertisement if he says 1000s in a system, because it's an absolute exaggeration to make the game sound more interesting.. no doubt a skating car makes the car seem more entertaining.
ApaKaka Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.30 12:12:00 - [92] Bah. Just make Eve switch into board-game view when fleets exceed numbers of 200 and let FC's move their fleet around like pieces on a board. Don't even involve servers, graphics, jump-ins or whatever. Make it a game of Go with real people's ships.
Nicholas Barker Caldari Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.03.30 12:16:00 - [93] Originally by: ApaKaka Bah. Just make Eve switch into board-game view when fleets exceed numbers of 200 and let FC's move their fleet around like pieces on a board. Don't even involve servers, graphics, jump-ins or whatever. Make it a game of Go with real people's ships. that removes the element of freedom where the FC can give a general command, but that might be a really bad idea for your specific ship, so you try to do whatever seems best that would compliment the FCs command for the other ships. If you did that you'd just be sitting watching the FC move your ship about and wouldn't be doing much to get involved. ------------------------------------- Am Orbitin' ur shi... i said orbit... ORBIT... no don't fly off in that direction
Maam	Posted - 2007.03.30 12:22:00 - [94] Edited by: Maam on 30/03/2007 12:20:01 Originally by: Sisco Deivas On british television there's a car that turns into a transformer and skates around an ice rink, would you sue the company because your car didn't do that?... ofcourse you dont. It's not false advertisement if he says 1000s in a system, because it's an absolute exaggeration to make the game sound more interesting.. no doubt a skating car makes the car seem more entertaining. Oh come one, that is absolutely not right. The car quite clearly can't do that, so call that artistic licence or what you will. The number of ships that can take part in fleet combat is a realistic and measurable expectation some people have from the game. It's more akin to the car advertiser saying their car can do 200mph and then you buy it and find that it can't. In fact it can only do 70. Edit: typo fixed.
ApaKaka Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.30 12:22:00 - [95] Originally by: Nicholas Barker that removes the element of freedom where the FC can give a general command, but that might be a really bad idea for your specific ship, so you try to do whatever seems best that would compliment the FCs command for the other ships. If you did that you'd just be sitting watching the FC move your ship about and wouldn't be doing much to get involved. Cue sarcasm.
Nicholas Barker Caldari Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.03.30 12:30:00 - [96] i found the problem: lazy bastards ------------------------------------- Am Orbitin' ur shi... i said orbit... ORBIT... no don't fly off in that direction
Rhaegor Stormborn	Posted - 2007.03.30 12:32:00 - [97] CCP please stop adding new content and changing a million things in Eve until you work out server performance issues and all the other bugs that plague Eve. You can add all the best new shiney bells and whistles, but if the game does not run properly it is not going to matter in the end.
Sisco Deivas Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.30 12:35:00 - [98] Originally by: Maam Edited by: Maam on 30/03/2007 12:20:01 Originally by: Sisco Deivas On british television there's a car that turns into a transformer and skates around an ice rink, would you sue the company because your car didn't do that?... ofcourse you dont. It's not false advertisement if he says 1000s in a system, because it's an absolute exaggeration to make the game sound more interesting.. no doubt a skating car makes the car seem more entertaining. Oh come one, that is absolutely not right. The car quite clearly can't do that, so call that artistic licence or what you will. The number of ships that can take part in fleet combat is a realistic and measurable expectation some people have from the game. It's more akin to the car advertiser saying their car can do 200mph and then you buy it and find that it can't. In fact it can only do 70. Edit: typo fixed. Yes, and the server "really" can't handle 1000 players in the same system, i knew this before i even started playing the game, because as a gamer i understand this. You could "try" and sue CCP on a false statement of fact, but the point is it's still NOT the condition in which you play eve, it's a sales pitch. I don't see anywhere on eves advertisements "This game can hold 1000 player fleet battles", it's a matter of opinion - if a technician at CCP clearly stated the game could hold 1000 player fleet battles, then you'd have some substance.
Maam	Posted - 2007.03.30 12:47:00 - [99] Originally by: Sisco Deivas Yes, and the server "really" can't handle 1000 players in the same system, i knew this before i even started playing the game, because as a gamer i understand this. You could "try" and sue CCP on a false statement of fact, but the point is it's still NOT the condition in which you play eve, it's a sales pitch. I don't see anywhere on eves advertisements "This game can hold 1000 player fleet battles", it's a matter of opinion - if a technician at CCP clearly stated the game could hold 1000 player fleet battles, then you'd have some substance. I'm not seriosly thinking about suing CCP, I'm just saying they should not continue to mention this as a feature of the game. Did you watch the BBC link? Did you not see the guy mentioning 1000 ship battles? Does he not seem like enough of an official representative for you? His exact words are "For instance, the other day we had a fleet battle of over 1000 people fighting in the same solar system." In what way does that exact quote not meet your criteria of "if a technician at CCP clearly stated the game could hold 1000 player fleet battles, then you'd have some substance."?
Ashaz	Posted - 2007.03.30 13:49:00 - [100] Originally by: MaamHis exact words are "For instance, the other day we had a fleet battle of over 1000 people fighting in the same solar system." In what way does that exact quote not meet your criteria of "if a technician at CCP clearly stated the game could hold 1000 player fleet battles, then you'd have some substance."?[/quote He clearly was talking about Jita at primetime

Godar Marak Amarr Return Of Red Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.30 14:10:00 - [101] To me it seams CCP is starting to become like EA. This game is going to be so great, just look at the graphics we spendt a fortune on! Bugs, what bugs? Oh those nevermind those we can just release a patch.....someday -------------------- '\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/' Cant we all just get along?
Monica Foulkes Hooligans Of War	Posted - 2007.03.30 14:43:00 - [102] Originally by: Kerfira People keep throwing arguments like these around without thinking about the effort or cost involved in doing fundamental changes to a big software system. Not knowing anything about the EVE system, codebase or design, a VERY low estimate would be a 2 year project, requiring 20+ coders and testers. If we take a cost of roughly ú50.000 per person (when all costs in addition to wages are taken into account), you end up at at least ú2.000.000. This is not an investment any company will undertake for a once-every-3-month case like this one. CCP probably have a plan for how they want the game codebase to evolve, but for a commercial company to commit to it, there has to be profit at the end of the rainbow.... It would be nice to have major fleet battles without lag, but I honestly don't see it happening anytime soon.... It's unfortuante that they made a bad design decision in the early days, however that doesn't mean that they can ignore the problem forever. CCP better start looking at a redesign of the code base sooner than later as the fleets only will get bigger over time. I'm curious how CCP got stuck with max node per solar system as one of the main reasons to use Stackless Python is the multithreading ability. We're sorry, something happened.
Susan Acid Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.30 14:52:00 - [103] Originally by: Maam In an interview to the BBC, someone from CCP talks about fleet battles with over a thousand ships: http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/video/81000/nb/81851_16x9_nb.asx Can Eve support thousand ship battles, or is that a misrepresentation of the game's capabilities? Discuss. I can imagine some poor guy watching that and thinking "OMFG.1000 people in space ships fighting! That sounds awesome.I have to get that game"
Sisco Deivas Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.30 15:30:00 - [104] Originally by: Maam Originally by: Sisco Deivas Yes, and the server "really" can't handle 1000 players in the same system, i knew this before i even started playing the game, because as a gamer i understand this. You could "try" and sue CCP on a false statement of fact, but the point is it's still NOT the condition in which you play eve, it's a sales pitch. I don't see anywhere on eves advertisements "This game can hold 1000 player fleet battles", it's a matter of opinion - if a technician at CCP clearly stated the game could hold 1000 player fleet battles, then you'd have some substance. I'm not seriosly thinking about suing CCP, I'm just saying they should not continue to mention this as a feature of the game. Did you watch the BBC link? Did you not see the guy mentioning 1000 ship battles? Does he not seem like enough of an official representative for you? His exact words are "For instance, the other day we had a fleet battle of over 1000 people fighting in the same solar system." In what way does that exact quote not meet your criteria of "if a technician at CCP clearly stated the game could hold 1000 player fleet battles, then you'd have some substance."? Well this is where it gets a little more complicated, to prove things such as in law you need to have someone of understanding to an expert degree the matter in which you are discussing. <-- Which might well be so in his case, but by what he said, and us knowing different, we can presume for arguments sake he doesn't know what he's talking about. Although now you've mentioned he said "We had a 1000 player fleet battle" then yeh, they're liable to prove this.. i presumed (quite wrongly by the looks of it) that he said the servers "could" hold 1000 players, not that they had. I full heartedly agree with you it's not really acceptable for them to make false statements when they're tried, and proven not to hold 1000 players.
Maam	Posted - 2007.03.30 15:59:00 - [105] Originally by: Sisco Deivas Well this is where it gets a little more complicated, to prove things such as in law you need to have someone of understanding to an expert degree the matter in which you are discussing. <-- Which might well be so in his case, but by what he said, and us knowing different, we can presume for arguments sake he doesn't know what he's talking about. Although now you've mentioned he said "We had a 1000 player fleet battle" then yeh, they're liable to prove this.. i presumed (quite wrongly by the looks of it) that he said the servers "could" hold 1000 players, not that they had. I full heartedly agree with you it's not really acceptable for them to make false statements when they're tried, and proven not to hold 1000 players. I think we're agreeing! I mentioned the UK law more with regard to the fact they shouldn't really be making claims, rather than me being serious about legal action over it. Blimey, what if it shut down the game I love to play? You'd all lynch me too! Can you imagine getting a judge or lawyers who understood the ins and outs of an MMOG. LOL, "they did what with what now? servers? fleet battles? what on earth is a 'digital watch'" They're just being a bit pinnochio like with the claims and should desist until they really can support large fleet battles. A day I very much look forward to.
Goyn Gong	Posted - 2007.03.30 18:25:00 - [106] /signed The funny thing is that CCP developed the game to work with these types of battles. CCP developed POS warfare. The numbers we are seeing of people enganging BoB is due to a CCP tabu issue. So it's all CCP's work and, in the end, they don't have the hardware to sustain the player base playing the game. Funny isn't it?


Pages: 1 2 3 [4] :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.