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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2007.03.31 16:36:00 -
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C-R-A has recently purchased an alliance and are accepting applications for people to join with their corporations, or create alt corporations so they can run their own research.
ò Hosting two large towers in a 0.5 system (Bawilan) in the Sinq Laison region and up to 100 research slots currently available
ò Ability to always keep your bpoÆs in your own corporate hangar so there is zero risk of theft
ò Ability to run your own ME/PL research to your heartÆs content
ò A player built market of bpoÆs within the same system to minimize your need to travel and purchase your own bpoÆs
ò Set feeÆs on installation jobs for only 4 million isk per month per slot (cheapest player run labs in eve)
ò Free Alliance Entrance for a limited time
ò Train yourself a character in under 2 days, who has skills to run 6 research jobs at a time, 10% faster than any npc station without any queues.
ò Separate yourself from your mains. I donÆt care if your main is a pirate, a scammer, or a carebear. The purpose of this design is to ensure labs are available in empire for anyone wanting to use them.
Sounds great, how do I join?
All you need to do is create your alt/s and a corporation of your choice. Then apply to join Zzz Alliance (bottom of the list) in the corporation tab (alliance > rankings > sort by name) Please see below for alt creation guide.
How much do your labs cost?
Our pricing is as follows. 50k per job, plus 12k per day. This comes to a total of 8 million isk, assuming a bpo cooking in the lab for a full month. When considering the profit margins off sales on these bpoÆs (cruisers etc), research is awfully cheap, not to mention cheaper than all of the competition with zero risks.
Do you have any recurring alliance feeÆs?
The only alliance fee we will charge is a total of 5 million isk per month (after the first complimentary month). For those in alliance doing a lot of research, there will be various reductions and incentives, as well as direct contracts we may offer them for research services.
How about COPY and INVENTION?
At this point in time, it is not possible to complete copy and invention jobs through the alliance. For some of these jobs, however, we may allow an alt to join the corporation to complete their research, or offer to handle portions of that research for them.
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2007.03.31 16:39:00 -
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What if your labs get filled?
Quite simple, I will expand my operation. I already have a third tower awaiting anchoring if the demand is great, plus a lot of extra labs ready for deployment.
What if you go to war?
You will likely all be alts, or station warriors, and all bpoÆs etc never leave the corp hangar of the owning corp, so there is no risk. If war does arise, I would recommend having your mains or a non-alliance alt deliver your bpoÆs.
Can I get a referral bonus or hard worker discount?
Certainly. Once we get operational, we will have some labs for high standings players at cheaper costs. As your standing increases, your costs will subsequently decrease. Standing increase will be achieved by the following but not limited too:
ò Referring your friendÆs corporations or alt corporations to join the alliance ò Keeping a constant stream of business going through the labs ò Completing contracts that I provide to alliance members.
(This may include me paying you to research my blueprints, running deliveries, providing minerals, and the likes. None required, but it is optional for those wanting to get more into the research game)
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2007.03.31 16:44:00 -
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What skills does my alt need, and what is this under 2 day training thing you mentioned?
Designing your character:
1) Choose Caldari 2) Choose Achura 3) Choose any gender 4) Assign stats to +3 int , +2 mem 5) Choose Inventors 6) Choose Industry 7) Choose Engineer 8) Choose Entrepreneur 9) Make your pretty picture
You should now have the following relevant skills by default: Laboratory Operations V (Control 6 slots) Research III (15% bonus to research production efficiency speed) Science III (15% faster copying time, also pre-requisite skill)
Thus far, we have needed zero training time, and have been born with 802,000 skill points. At this point, your nerdy looking character will be born in Lonetrek, and have a 21 jump afk trip to take (make sure to select æprefer saferÆ in map)
After this, you will need to purchase the following skills, or obtain from the Bawilan market when you arrive.
Scientific Networking û 6.75m isk (7m isk if sourced from Bawilan) Metallurgy û 315,000 isk (350,000 isk if sourced from Bawilan) (Both can be bought from startup station before you depart, and training can begin en route)
Here is your training schedule in the following picture, along with timeframes to complete:
http://eve-files.com/dl/96920
Within 1 day, 18 hours you have the capability to control 6 Laboratory slots, that will research 10% faster than an npc station, without the queues.
Thanks in advance for your interest. We are ready to accept your applications immediately.
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Wadaya
Caldari Trailerpark Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.31 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Wadaya on 31/03/2007 19:17:02 Nice concept, free bump.
Wad
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2007.04.01 12:07:00 -
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Daily bump. A few are expressing interest thus far.
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Amiorr
Gallente THE GO LUCKY SERVICES
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Posted - 2007.04.01 22:20:00 -
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Free bump for a friend and soon alliance m8!
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2007.04.02 13:16:00 -
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Daily bump ladies and gents
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2007.04.03 12:07:00 -
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For lack of a better word, Bump.
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Dr Aryandi
Hematite Rose Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.03 12:27:00 -
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I've been thinking of setting something like this up, congratulations on getting in first and have a free bump even though you are sort of competing with me :)
Blueprint Research Service Available See thread for details.
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2007.04.03 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Aryandi I've been thinking of setting something like this up, congratulations on getting in first and have a free bump even though you are sort of competing with me :)
thanks for the bump mate. If you are at all interested, have a look here:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500061&page=1
Always happy to share the work 
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Lord Oscar
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Posted - 2007.04.03 14:31:00 -
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1. Do you plan on creating any other labs in other regions closer to low-sec? 2. Are the slots reserved for each corp (if so, how many slots of each type?) or do you have to be in a que and wait? 3. If there is a que, how long is the average wait? The link to current que times isn't working. 4. Any immediate plans for adding copy and/or invention?
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smokey steele
Squirrel Soda
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Posted - 2007.04.03 14:57:00 -
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I am very interested in signing up to join your Pos alliance, I'll get in contact to sort out the details.
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Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:35:00 -
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Hmmm. Wish you had followed up on joining Empire Research alliance. Nice presentation on the details though. Our business models are quite different in the end.
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Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:35:00 -
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Hmmm. Wish you had followed up on joining Empire Research alliance. Nice presentation on the details though. Our business models are quite different in the end.
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Master Kappadumo
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Posted - 2007.04.03 16:01:00 -
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Bump for the alliance, great thing going on here. Room 4 more.
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2007.04.03 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Oscar 1. Do you plan on creating any other labs in other regions closer to low-sec?
Hi thanks for your queries. As with the above link, I am looking for any other research corporations with their own stations established, to come and join the alliance, to expand our coverage. I also expect some of the internal corps currently using my labs to get their own stations online under the alliance umbrella. But for one person already running two POS's alone, as well as 2 public corporations, it would not be viable for me to personally open up more POS's in other areas of Eve.
Quote: 2. Are the slots reserved for each corp (if so, how many slots of each type?) or do you have to be in a que and wait?
Slots are unreserved and will remain this way. At this point there is no queue, and I am simply anchoring and onlining more mobile labs as required. Ultimately I will/may need to anchor a few more towers, but we will cross this bridge when we come too it.
At the time I created this alliance (1 week or so ago), I had 14 labs in circulation. At time of post, I now have 25 mobile labs established (3 yet to be anchored), so I am just expanding as demand requires it.
Quote: 3. If there is a que, how long is the average wait? The link to current que times isn't working.
Sorry, please don't bother with that link, I will remove it asap, it was back when I just researched other people's bpo's myself, which generally doesnt happen any more. There are no queues whatsoever, however ME is reaching capacity awfully fast, so we may see 1-2 day queues at periods between expansions.
Quote: 4. Any immediate plans for adding copy and/or invention?
Good question. Due to there being no way to currently do this through the alliance tab, it requires the trust factor, and in regards to invention, it also requires advanced skills. Copying is not a problem as my internal characters can handle this, but Invention will be on a 'per user' scale, and those interested can contact me in-game to discuss options.
I have however, begun purchasing the necessary Data Tuners, as we currently have some high end bpo's in place to begin dabbling in this field.
I hope this answers your questions sufficiently.
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2007.04.03 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: smokey steele I am very interested in signing up to join your Pos alliance, I'll get in contact to sort out the details.
Sounds great Smokey 
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2007.04.03 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Alvara Hmmm. Wish you had followed up on joining Empire Research alliance. Nice presentation on the details though. Our business models are quite different in the end.
I was initially interested in this venture, but felt the monthly corporate costs were rather steep (50m per month), and would ultimately hurt my shareholders. I managed to purchase Zzz for a good price, so am thus far very happy with the decision I made.
Thanks for the compliments, and best of luck with RE 
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Trading Bunnz
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Posted - 2007.04.03 17:12:00 -
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Is this invitation open to all?
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.04.03 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Trading Bunnz Is this invitation open to all?
Of course
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.04.04 21:08:00 -
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Daily Bump
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.04.05 11:43:00 -
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Bump, we are looking to have a 3rd tower online within 1 week, to ensure you can all do empire research.
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Taikun Brunel
Gallente Evolved Gamer
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Posted - 2007.04.06 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic ò Set feeÆs on installation jobs for only 4 million isk per month per slot (cheapest player run labs in eve)
Originally by: Ricdic Our pricing is as follows. 50k per job, plus 12k per hour. This comes to a total of 8 million isk, assuming a bpo cooking in the lab for a full month.
Could you please clarify these two statements about your pricing structure. is it 4m or 8m per month?
Thanks, Taikun Brunel
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.04.06 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Taikun Brunel
Could you please clarify these two statements about your pricing structure. is it 4m or 8m per month?
In addition, 50k+(12k*24hours)*30days= Is closer to 8.69 million assuming 30 days in a month. Are you providing a discount of 690k by rounding down to 8 million if we buy in month blocks, or would the actual cost still be be per hour and accordingly 8.69 million?
Thanks, Taikun Brunel
Thanks for your post. You actually found a typo, (I initially calculated incorrectly, then edited to reflect true cost, but forgot to initially change that section)
Yes, the lab will charge in the exact formula you described: 50k+(12k*24hours)*30days
Obviously, this is only assuming you run 1 bpo for a 30 day period non-stop.
Let's say you wanted to run 15 bpo's over the 1 month period (assuming you use only 1 slot at a time). Cost would be : (50,000*15)+(12,000*24hours) *30days
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.04.06 16:37:00 -
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Daily Push
Sick of the waits with empire research slots? Use mine! |

Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.04.08 05:31:00 -
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Daily bump.
As an incentive to promote research with my towers, I am offering 2 weeks of half priced research. Any jobs put in place within the next 14 days (starting at downtime today) will only be charged : 25,000isk + 6,000isk per hour.
This beats the competition in pricing by over 50%, and should be further complimented by the construction of our third tower and labs. Right now, we have the spare slots, and look forward to getting lots of people being able to research without queues and at reasonable prices.
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Taikun Brunel
Gallente Evolved Gamer
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Posted - 2007.04.08 07:43:00 -
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Application sent.
Taikun Brunel
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.04.08 17:10:00 -
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Application Approved.
Plenty more space peoples
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Ore Monkey
Eve Defence Force Pure.
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Posted - 2007.04.09 05:36:00 -
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So I'm super interested in getting an alt or two in the alliance, Ricdic. Honestly, its a brilliant idea. I do have a question for ya though. You say:
Quote: Within 1 day, 18 hours you have the capability to control 6 Laboratory slots, that will research 10% faster than an npc station, without the queues.
So does that mean this alt, after the initial training time will research BPOs 10% faster than a fully skilled player in an NPC station?
I.E. On my main I have Metallurgy V, so he's got a research speed that 25% faster than base. Will the alt have a speed that is 10% faster than that? If so, I think I need to change my pants. 
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.04.09 15:21:00 -
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hehe good to see you again mate.
Okies, will answer one at a time
Originally by: Ore Monkey
So does that mean this alt, after the initial training time will research BPOs 10% faster than a fully skilled player in an NPC station?
Well a POS gives a 25% reduction in research time. So ultimately this would mean that a person with metallurgy 0 in a POS could research at the same speed as someone with Metallurgy V in an NPC station.
Having said that, I believe Metal 3 is a requirement to use Scientific Networking (using npc corp to store bpo's etc and remote research). So assuming the person has Metal 3, the end bonii would be 15%+25% inside the POS, where your current bonii when using npc station is 25%+0%.
Adding them up, and POS always wins no matter what combo you use.
Quote: I.E. On my main I have Metallurgy V, so he's got a research speed that 25% faster than base. Will the alt have a speed that is 10% faster than that? If so, I think I need to change my pants. 
I suggest you change them then . If your main was to join into the alliance (as an example), he would have 25%+25% as his end bonii. As per the above calcs you are correct. An alt with the above training schedule of under 2 days will be able to research 10% faster than a main with metal 5 using an NPC station.
I look forward to recieving your alts 
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