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Valeria
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Posted - 2003.12.25 01:43:00 -
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Remove sentries in 0.4 and below. We have no option but to sit 60km out and gank everyone. We can't fire warning shots and ask people to stop. They won't stop, they will MWD to the gate or warp away, then taunt us in local chat because we tried to be nice. CCP only allows us to gank.
0.0 space has much to little traffic. You can stay out there a whole day and only catch three ships. Yes, you will be able to toll them and not gank them, but it's not worth doing it.
Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage. |

KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2003.12.25 01:45:00 -
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oh get off the bandwagon ---
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2003.12.25 02:23:00 -
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Agreed. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2003.12.25 03:14:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 25/12/2003 03:15:56 0.4 should have sentry's that r destroyable, when the snetry's r desotryed they will respawn in 5-10min... the Navy will of course warp in with a fleet of a cruiser or two with frigates escort... 0.3 should have almost the same as 0.4 but with weaker Navy.... 0.2 should only have sentries and 0.1 - 0.0 should have no sentry's!!!! the navy is of course FARM ABLE so a Amarr can go to a 0.4 - 0.1 sys and gank the Minmatar Navy... just an idea..... 
"We brake for nobody"
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cball
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Posted - 2003.12.25 03:28:00 -
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0.0 space,  
...nuff said....
...fear the evil monkey in your hanger...
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Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2003.12.25 04:08:00 -
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maybe become "active" valeria? isnt camping a bit old?
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
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Klaatu Verrato
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Posted - 2003.12.25 04:25:00 -
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Valeria, you have plenty of options for pirating. Go to low sec space (in particular now 0.3/0.4) and patrol the belts, you'll find plenty of targets. Oh, but wait, that'd be a fair fight. It'd be harder to catch someone off guard. Waahh. Learn to play the game and not exploit. You lost your little gate camping exploit, so adapt. No one ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country! |

Zakalwe
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Posted - 2003.12.25 10:52:00 -
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Hmmm...
Dernierement, Valeria and his slave (Toastmaster)were camping in Daras ... : of course they never asked something in local before shooting : only after i could escape,3 min later, at least a small little girl voice said in local :" 1 million to pass..."
Hmmm...
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.12.25 11:10:00 -
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Then get out your frigates and start catching miners in 0.4 space - just follow the dots and you'll find them and, with the new lock times/warp-jamming boost, you can easily hold down a battleship in a frigate long enough for a friends Scorpion to get a lock on him.
Remove sentries from 0.4 and you turn it into 0.0 space.
There's plenty of 0.0 space, already.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Valeria
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Posted - 2003.12.25 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: Valeria on 25/12/2003 11:15:44 Uh, yeah, we've spent the last few days out in 0.0 space. Haven't you missed us in Daras?
I think I made about 600k in tolls. Totally worth it. Notice we were all in cruisers at this time.
Rational, who is a noob with like 900k skillpoints caught a NVA indy and aquired about 110m tradegoods, which is nice because now I won't have to pay for all his stuff anymore.
Edit: Ah yes Joshua, if only people mined up here in Lonetrek. Trust me, as soon as a big dot pops up (which isn't often) we send an alt to investigate... but people never ever mine anymore. Might have something to do with insane NPC spawns guarding Kernite.
Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage. |

johnathan
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Posted - 2003.12.25 11:22:00 -
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Edited by: johnathan on 25/12/2003 11:49:00 go here 1 thread plz
same topic
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Toastmaster
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Posted - 2003.12.25 11:26:00 -
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Quote: Valeria, you have plenty of options for pirating. Go to low sec space (in particular now 0.3/0.4) and patrol the belts, you'll find plenty of targets. Oh, but wait, that'd be a fair fight. It'd be harder to catch someone off guard. Waahh. Learn to play the game and not exploit. You lost your little gate camping exploit, so adapt.
Have you even looked in the .4 > .1 belts since the patch ??? noone mines there anymore because its spawnes BS in those belts... And if someone is mining in the belt near where we are they are getting a fight... but until they get there we watch our gate and its impossible for pirate hunters to catch us now due to we are 50 km away and when they come with 15 BS we just warp away they have no chance as they would have if sentrys wasnt there and we could be closer to the gates
"viper zulu > toast has killed our whole corporation ships at least once"
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.12.25 11:31:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Valeria on 25/12/2003 11:15:44 Uh, yeah, we've spent the last few days out in 0.0 space. Haven't you missed us in Daras?
I think I made about 600k in tolls. Totally worth it. Notice we were all in cruisers at this time.
Rational, who is a noob with like 900k skillpoints caught a NVA indy and aquired about 110m tradegoods, which is nice because now I won't have to pay for all his stuff anymore.
Edit: Ah yes Joshua, if only people mined up here in Lonetrek. Trust me, as soon as a big dot pops up (which isn't often) we send an alt to investigate... but people never ever mine anymore. Might have something to do with insane NPC spawns guarding Kernite.
Ahh, you could have a point there.
Try around Brin/Karjataimon - plenty of people seem to hang around there.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

var'ulfur
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Posted - 2003.12.25 14:21:00 -
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my heart bleeds for your plight but life is hard and another thread ia active with this read its a wonderful thing
talk is cheap the cost of action is enormus
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Toastmaster
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Posted - 2003.12.25 14:34:00 -
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Well its not hard for us since we are the one that can warp away when someone comes in to many BS...
The victims are the bounty hunters and those who get killed
But ok keep the sentrys but dont whine when pirates just blows up their victims
"viper zulu > toast has killed our whole corporation ships at least once"
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Kozak
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Posted - 2003.12.25 14:37:00 -
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I still see many pod kills and choke points on the map. All you need to do is kick out the pirates that are already there. I think the problem is not the sentry guns, but too many pirates trying to share a very small market share. If you can handle it, kick out the rats from FD or the other choke point, unless your a carebear 
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Toastmaster
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Posted - 2003.12.25 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: Toastmaster on 25/12/2003 14:48:00 So how do you get rid of pirate when you cant catch them ?? Pirates in space with sentrys are 50 km away and just warp away when someone try to kill them
"viper zulu > toast has killed our whole corporation ships at least once"
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Kozak
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Posted - 2003.12.25 14:47:00 -
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Haven't been there in a while, but if you need help figuring out how to camp near sentries, then you should be mining.
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Valeria
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Posted - 2003.12.25 14:48:00 -
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If you kick out the SA from Stain, we'll kick out the pirates from FD.
Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage. |

Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.12.25 15:02:00 -
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Heh for SI its a bit complicated to kick the local pirates out. We are allied with like 60% of EVE's pirates and friendly with another 30% or so.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.12.25 16:24:00 -
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Val does have a bit of a point.
The only real way for her to pirate is by sitting at range from gates and pretty much ganking.
For her to travel to 0.0 systems is very risky, as she has to go thru various systems that we are based.
And i also have to add, val doesnt use instant jump BM(unlike many rats), so when we catch her in a system, she cant run, and has to fight or log.
so, dont blame her for the 60k ganking, i would prob do the same if i were a rat.
Oh, and heard about the NVA indy, OMG, what was the guy thinking .
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2003.12.25 16:42:00 -
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belts dont work onward now. _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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Claus
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Posted - 2003.12.25 16:53:00 -
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Why should all pirates be able to make a living? There are too many of them hunting too few targets. Like the EU fishermen, many of them will have to change profession.
The argument about how removing the sentries would make it easier for bounty hunters is totally beside the point. It would make it easier for the pirates and make 0.1-0.4 into 0.0. ------------- You have to go out of your mind from time to time to stay sane. |

Toastmaster
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Posted - 2003.12.25 17:29:00 -
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So you say that now when we just gank everyone coming to the gate is better than trying to toll them ?? and not until you come to 0.0 should tolling be enabled ?
"viper zulu > toast has killed our whole corporation ships at least once"
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.12.25 17:40:00 -
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So you are asking a favor?!? A pirate?!? Your lucky to be able to post here you scum!!! If I was in charge I would have made pirate subscription 100x more expensive then for non-pirate players and on period of 12 months mininmum!!!
Off with your head:> ______
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Kozak
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Posted - 2003.12.25 17:48:00 -
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Alright, I'll spell it out...
You can tank out a Scorpion to take Sentry Gun damage for over a minute. Put that Scorpion at the gate to web and scamble the victim. Request a toll, if they don't pay withing a minute, have your buddies that are ouside sentry range shoot them.
Also, Sentries shoot only the first target that opens fire. Just have another ship there to shield transfer to the webbing ship to keep it alive.
There, stop whining!
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Icho Matar
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Posted - 2003.12.25 17:55:00 -
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Is pirating becoming too much for you?
Are the sentry guns taking down your shields too fast?
If you answered yes to these questions, then Todaki is the place for you! Join the Space Invaders and deplete the entire system of Veldspar roids!
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Reah
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Posted - 2003.12.25 18:03:00 -
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sentry guns aint 'that' though imo, in my scorp i can tank sentry gun fir for like 2mins with 3hardners and a large shildbooster and 4 power diags, and u still have 4 slots left to fit web/jammer/scramblers in etc, so if u are 2-3 ppl camping, killing stuff in battleships should work particulairly if ur team m8 is equiped with shield/cap transfer's
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Kozak
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Posted - 2003.12.25 19:17:00 -
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LOL, "Carebears" advising "Pirates" how to pirate...
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.12.25 19:25:00 -
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"You can tank out a Scorpion to take Sentry Gun damage for over a minute. Put that Scorpion at the gate to web and scamble the victim. Request a toll, if they don't pay withing a minute, have your buddies that are ouside sentry range shoot them."
Hey, they're not all as creative as we are, don't blame em for that.
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