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Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2016.12.06 18:33:15 - [1] - Quote Highsec Protecting Agency are spreading the awereness of harrasment and suicides in High Security space, we are supplying you fine people with fits, tips and tricks on how to feel safer in space. Check out the corp, and spread the word! Hello fellow spacepilots! We are here to help you. But first let us introduce ourselfes. We made this corp to have a starting ground and to be a name in eve that are against suicide-gankers and to make highsec a safer place for those who wish to live there. To make miners be able to mine without fear, To make us use autojump again. Eve is run by miners, and making helpless miners pay for their hard work is a bad way to make eve work. Without minerals/miners eve is dead. So we set out now to help every player to become safer and a harder target for corporations to take advantage of. Please help us and spread it to those you know and tell them about us, we are here to help. Our future plans- Or the things we will provide in time We got some thoughts about making some kind of insurance that we might be able to provide to our people. "Providing you use our fitting, and dont do silly stuff in low, or null sec". But our real goal with this is to show how important minerals and miners are in eve and hopfully we can show that with paying corps who support us to not mine for a month (and we will cover those miners isk that they would get). And then see what happens to the market.. Its going to be chaos, and ccp will have to make a change in highsec. ( atleast that part is out big dream), but we also think that nothing is impossible within eve online. Just imagine a miner strike, now that would be something! We have posted a few fits we recommend in our corp bio, check them out ingame and be a safer pilot while we continue working on more ways to help you. If you like the idea we working on, Then please spread the word of us, and also spread our fittings to friends. If you like to help even more, you can in that case donate to us Donate to: Our corp -Highsec Protecting Agency The donations we will recieve through our time while working on this project, will go to 1.Paying corps who support us to not mine for a month ( Hopfully almost every mining corp in eve. (Let us dream) 2. Paying out isk to lost ships with our fits. ( In time we have this covered with a simply pay out plan) If you reading this and got ideas for us to greater improve our project, please mail us and we bring this evil predators to their knees once and for all. We hope this will help you and your friends. and if you want to ask us anything just contact us. Top Donator: Mining Beez 55mil isk Total Donations: 16 If other corp`s can make life hard in eve! HSPA can make it easyer and better for New Eden
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2016.12.06 18:39:53 - [2] - Quote We are here for all the players that needs help, dont be a stranger! If you have any questions, please contact us!
Estuary Algaert Petulant Luddite GmbH 26	Posted - 2016.12.06 18:50:20 - [3] - Quote Thanks for this, needed some humor today. Best of luck.
Estuary Algaert Petulant Luddite GmbH 26	Posted - 2016.12.06 18:50:20 - [4] - Quote Thanks for this, needed some humor today. Best of luck.
ISD Max Trix ISD Community Communications Liaisons 596	Posted - 2016.12.06 18:54:01 - [5] - Quote Insert Funny Gif of Sharks Feeding Here Moved to Crime and Punishment. ISD Max Trix Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
ISD Max Trix ISD Community Communications Liaisons 596	Posted - 2016.12.06 18:54:01 - [6] - Quote Insert Funny Gif of Sharks Feeding Here Moved to Crime and Punishment. ISD Max Trix Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Mister Burns Hedion University Amarr Empire 17	Posted - 2016.12.06 18:54:56 - [7] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: So we set out now to help every player to become safer and a harder target for corporations to take advantage of. Please help us and spread it to those you know and tell them about us, we are here to help. Our future plans- Or the things we will provide in time We got some thoughts about making some kind of insurance that we might be able to provide to our people. "Providing you use our fitting, and dont do silly stuff in low, or null sec". But our real goal with this is to show how important minerals and miners are in eve and hopfully we can show that with paying corps who support us to not mine for a month (and we will cover those miners isk that they would get). And then see what happens to the market.. At first I thought THIS IS AWESOME! Finally someone who wants to really play the game and use game mechanics to combat unwanted elements of the game! But then.. Rippy Gurista wrote: ccp will have to make a change in highsec. ( atleast that part is out big dream) ..great, just another douchebag wanting CCP to change the game mechanics to suit their playstyle. sigh Rippy Gurista wrote: Donate to: Our corp -Highsec Protecting Agency LOL you're probably just alts of CODE trying to create another clever way of generating ISK from fools.
Mister Burns Hedion University Amarr Empire 17	Posted - 2016.12.06 18:54:56 - [8] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: So we set out now to help every player to become safer and a harder target for corporations to take advantage of. Please help us and spread it to those you know and tell them about us, we are here to help. Our future plans- Or the things we will provide in time We got some thoughts about making some kind of insurance that we might be able to provide to our people. "Providing you use our fitting, and dont do silly stuff in low, or null sec". But our real goal with this is to show how important minerals and miners are in eve and hopfully we can show that with paying corps who support us to not mine for a month (and we will cover those miners isk that they would get). And then see what happens to the market.. At first I thought THIS IS AWESOME! Finally someone who wants to really play the game and use game mechanics to combat unwanted elements of the game! But then.. Rippy Gurista wrote: ccp will have to make a change in highsec. ( atleast that part is out big dream) ..great, just another douchebag wanting CCP to change the game mechanics to suit their playstyle. sigh Rippy Gurista wrote: Donate to: Our corp -Highsec Protecting Agency LOL you're probably just alts of CODE trying to create another clever way of generating ISK from fools.
Demonspawn 666 Caldari Provisions Caldari State 20	Posted - 2016.12.06 18:59:59 - [9] - Quote I lolled at this. Think a little bit of pee leaked out as I lolled so much. Wish this had been put up yesterday to brighten up a horrible Monday.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 27104	Posted - 2016.12.06 19:01:02 - [10] - Quote The links in your corp description are dead; the eve wiki was discontinued nearly a year ago. If your advice consists of fit a tank, don't go afk etc then I'm afraid you're in for a shock, it will be ignored by the majority of your target audience; they've been ignoring the same advice for over a decade. With reference to a potential miners strike, it simply won't work; everybody can mine, most of us just choose not to. Any shortfall in mineral supply simply makes it more profitable for those who have stockpiles and those who mine outside of hisec. Civilised behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack

SurrenderMonkey Space Llama Industries 2821	Posted - 2016.12.06 19:02:04 - [11] - Quote The reason "AG" are perpetual losers in this little "war": They're actually butthurt, while their opponents are just playing a game and having fun. vOv "Help, I'm bored with missions!" http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Bivk Dvtt State War Academy Caldari State 4	Posted - 2016.12.06 19:08:43 - [12] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Highsec Protecting Agency are spreading the awereness of harrasment and suicides in High Security space, we are supplying you fine people with fits, tips and tricks on how to feel safer in space. Check out the corp, and spread the word! Hello fellow spacepilots! We are here to help you. But first let us introduce ourselfes. We made this corp to have a starting ground and to be a name in eve that are against suicide-gankers and to make highsec a safer place for those who wish to live there. To make miners be able to mine without fear, To make us use autojump again. Eve is run by miners, and making helpless miners pay for their hard work is a bad way to make eve work. Without minerals/miners eve is dead. So we set out now to help every player to become safer and a harder target for corporations to take advantage of. Please help us and spread it to those you know and tell them about us, we are here to help. Our future plans- Or the things we will provide in time We got some thoughts about making some kind of insurance that we might be able to provide to our people. "Providing you use our fitting, and dont do silly stuff in low, or null sec". But our real goal with this is to show how important minerals and miners are in eve and hopfully we can show that with paying corps who support us to not mine for a month (and we will cover those miners isk that they would get). And then see what happens to the market.. Its going to be chaos, and ccp will have to make a change in highsec. ( atleast that part is out big dream), but we also think that nothing is impossible within eve online. Just imagine a miner strike, now that would be something! We have posted a few fits we recommend in our corp bio, check them out ingame and be a safer pilot while we continue working on more ways to help you. If you like the idea we working on, Then please spread the word of us, and also spread our fittings to friends. If you like to help even more, you can in that case donate to us Donate to: Our corp -Highsec Protecting Agency The donations we will recieve through our time while working on this project, will go to 1.Paying corps who support us to not mine for a month ( Hopfully almost every mining corp in eve. (Let us dream) 2. Paying out isk to lost ships with our fits. ( In time we have this covered with a simply pay out plan) If you reading this and got ideas for us to greater improve our project, please mail us and we bring this evil predators to their knees once and for all. We hope this will help you and your friends. and if you want to ask us anything just contact us. Top Donator: Mining Beez 55mil isk Total Donations: 16 If other corp`s can make life hard in eve! HSPA can make it easyer and better for New Eden HEY GUISE WHAT IF WE PRETENDED TO HELP MINERS LOL??? THEN WE ASK FOR DONATIONS xD xD xD AND MEBBE SOME FOOLS JOIN CORP You people are the reason this community is reviled by most online gamers On any other game you would be permabanned for doing this. Unfortunately since EvE's playerbase has mostly shrunk to meta abusing online sociopaths and their willing prey, and since those are bankable because they all fund alts to indulge in said meta or mitigate crappy gameplay consequences, CCP has been lulled into accepting whatever nastiness its playerbase enjoys.
Paranoid Loyd 9902	Posted - 2016.12.06 19:12:24 - [13] - Quote Pfft, get in line, we are still waiting for XeX Znndstrup to do something worthwhile. (Been two years now) "There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix Fix the Prospect!
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2720	Posted - 2016.12.06 19:13:16 - [14] - Quote Other organizations have stepped forward hoping to accomplish the same as you. They've all failed. I look forward to hearing about your attempt. Oh, and don't forget that The Code always wins. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures I predicted FAUXs
Giaus Felix Hedion University Amarr Empire 263	Posted - 2016.12.06 19:19:08 - [15] - Quote Bivk Dvtt wrote: You people are the reason this community is reviled by most online gamers Citation needed. Quote: On any other game you would be permabanned for doing this. In any other game the permaban would a result of breaking the rules, here in Eve those rules don't exist Quote: Unfortunately since EvE's playerbase has mostly shrunk to meta abusing online sociopaths and their willing prey, and since those are bankable because they all fund alts to indulge in said meta or mitigate crappy gameplay consequences, CCP has been lulled into accepting whatever nastiness its playerbase enjoys. Citation needed. I suggest that you go play a game that serves your wants, and kindly stop shitting up our forums with your irrelevant bile. I came for the spaceships, I stayed for the tears.
Estuary Algaert Petulant Luddite GmbH 26	Posted - 2016.12.06 19:26:24 - [16] - Quote Wee, thread move, need to post in it again. Rippy Gurista wrote: 1.Paying corps who support us to not mine for a month ( Hopfully almost every mining corp in eve. (Let us dream) I would love to see this pulled off, . Send me a PM when you have the ISK to do this, I know some folks that could use a break from mining. They are small fry HS mining corp and pull down about 5b in a month. I'm sure they would be overjoyed with your funding them doing something else for a while.
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2016.12.06 19:35:06 - [17] - Quote We knew that some people would get triggerd by this, and others would just laugh and as someone said "code alts". But we're doing this for a good cause, creating more awareness on this topic. Estuary Algaert wrote: Wee, thread move, need to post in it again. Rippy Gurista wrote: 1.Paying corps who support us to not mine for a month ( Hopfully almost every mining corp in eve. (Let us dream) I would love to see this pulled off, . Send me a PM when you have the ISK to do this, I know some folks that could use a break from mining. They are small fry HS mining corp and pull down about 5b in a month. I'm sure they would be overjoyed with your funding them doing something else for a while. So do we! And we have more things to come in the future if everything goes as planned.
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2016.12.06 19:48:58 - [18] - Quote Bivk Dvtt wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Highsec Protecting Agency are spreading the awereness of harrasment and suicides in High Security space, we are supplying you fine people with fits, tips and tricks on how to feel safer in space. Check out the corp, and spread the word! Hello fellow spacepilots! We are here to help you. But first let us introduce ourselfes. We made this corp to have a starting ground and to be a name in eve that are against suicide-gankers and to make highsec a safer place for those who wish to live there. To make miners be able to mine without fear, To make us use autojump again. Eve is run by miners, and making helpless miners pay for their hard work is a bad way to make eve work. Without minerals/miners eve is dead. So we set out now to help every player to become safer and a harder target for corporations to take advantage of. Please help us and spread it to those you know and tell them about us, we are here to help. Our future plans- Or the things we will provide in time We got some thoughts about making some kind of insurance that we might be able to provide to our people. "Providing you use our fitting, and dont do silly stuff in low, or null sec". But our real goal with this is to show how important minerals and miners are in eve and hopfully we can show that with paying corps who support us to not mine for a month (and we will cover those miners isk that they would get). And then see what happens to the market.. Its going to be chaos, and ccp will have to make a change in highsec. ( atleast that part is out big dream), but we also think that nothing is impossible within eve online. Just imagine a miner strike, now that would be something! We have posted a few fits we recommend in our corp bio, check them out ingame and be a safer pilot while we continue working on more ways to help you. If you like the idea we working on, Then please spread the word of us, and also spread our fittings to friends. If you like to help even more, you can in that case donate to us Donate to: Our corp -Highsec Protecting Agency The donations we will recieve through our time while working on this project, will go to 1.Paying corps who support us to not mine for a month ( Hopfully almost every mining corp in eve. (Let us dream) 2. Paying out isk to lost ships with our fits. ( In time we have this covered with a simply pay out plan) If you reading this and got ideas for us to greater improve our project, please mail us and we bring this evil predators to their knees once and for all. We hope this will help you and your friends. and if you want to ask us anything just contact us. Top Donator: Mining Beez 55mil isk Total Donations: 16 If other corp`s can make life hard in eve! HSPA can make it easyer and better for New Eden HEY GUISE WHAT IF WE PRETENDED TO HELP MINERS LOL??? THEN WE ASK FOR DONATIONS xD xD xD AND MEBBE SOME FOOLS JOIN CORP You people are the reason this community is reviled by most online gamers On any other game you would be permabanned for doing this. Unfortunately since EvE's playerbase has mostly shrunk to meta abusing online sociopaths and their willing prey, and since those are bankable because they all fund alts to indulge in said meta or mitigate crappy gameplay consequences, CCP has been lulled into accepting whatever nastiness its playerbase enjoys. Noone would really join the corp, since its not open for recruitment.
Lady Ayeipsia Perkone Caldari State 1246	Posted - 2016.12.06 19:55:35 - [19] - Quote But how do you plan to enforce this mess? There is no asteroid killboard or the like. If I accept your isk to not mine for a month, how do you know I am not mining? Would you be stuck watching my character? This is eve after all.
Marcus Blackthorn Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2016.12.06 19:56:16 - [20] - Quote Oh, please get everyone to stop mining for a month so the prices skyrocket. I can mine a lot in my Orca ...... it'd probably still pay worse than level 4's though.

Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 1	Posted - 2016.12.06 19:58:28 - [21] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: Other organizations have stepped forward hoping to accomplish the same as you. They've all failed. I look forward to hearing about your attempt. Oh, and don't forget that The Code always wins. Well even water destroys rocks in time, keep hating and laughing but you will see that there is alot more people who want to see a change. Maby not Ccp changing the game, but we can atleast try, just like anyone else. Fly right fitted
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 1	Posted - 2016.12.06 20:04:24 - [22] - Quote Lady Ayeipsia wrote: But how do you plan to enforce this mess? There is no asteroid killboard or the like. If I accept your isk to not mine for a month, how do you know I am not mining? Would you be stuck watching my character? This is eve after all. well we dont KNOW... But if you in time see what we do, you might wanna try and watch the prices rise and problems arise. We cant demand anything, only show what can happen, and only when people understand the idea, the curiosity will take over.
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 265	Posted - 2016.12.06 20:04:52 - [23] - Quote If there's harassment going on, open a ticket. Just be sure it's actual harassment and not "waaah i got ganked." Also, please do reduce hisec mining. I quite like the idea of my nullsec ores being worth more. I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Lady Ayeipsia Perkone Caldari State 1247	Posted - 2016.12.06 20:12:06 - [24] - Quote https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/monthly-economic-report-november-2016/ Look at where the minerals come from. Yes, key ones are hi sec. However others like Delve are nul. Yes it looks like most of Delve goes to making capitals locally, however if it ever becomes more profitable to sell to hi sec, they will. In other words, I'm not sure that hi sec is as strong a mineral faucet as you think.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 1	Posted - 2016.12.06 20:15:36 - [25] - Quote Lady Ayeipsia wrote: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/monthly-economic-report-november-2016/ Look at where the minerals come from. Yes, key ones are hi sec. However others like Delve are nul. Yes it looks like most of Delve goes to making capitals locally, however if it ever becomes more profitable to sell to hi sec, they will. In other words, I'm not sure that hi sec is as strong a mineral faucet as you think. Fair point But only one way to find out.
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 8250	Posted - 2016.12.06 20:15:41 - [26] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: But our real goal with this is to show how important minerals and miners are in eve and hopfully we can show that with paying corps who support us to not mine for a month (and we will cover those miners isk that they would get). And then see what happens to the market.. Its going to be chaos, and ccp will have to make a change in highsec. ( atleast that part is out big dream), but we also think that nothing is impossible within eve online. Just imagine a miner strike, now that would be something! No need to imagine it. Just go ahead and do it. I think you'll find it won't make the difference you think it will. Do you have any idea how much mining and production goes on in low and nul? First of all, all that T2 stuff you're using is the product of moon and asteroid mining in low and nul. High sec mining contributes, sure, but the small bump in the road that would occur if everyone in highsec stopped mining for any length of time would quickly be compensated for. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2721	Posted - 2016.12.06 20:17:56 - [27] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: Other organizations have stepped forward hoping to accomplish the same as you. They've all failed. I look forward to hearing about your attempt. Oh, and don't forget that The Code always wins. Well even water destroys rocks in time, keep hating and laughing but you will see that there is alot more people who want to see a change. Maby not Ccp changing the game, but we can atleast try, just like anyone else. Fly right fitted The problem with your water/rock analogy is that you and your predecessors are the rock and ganking organizations like CODE. are the water. Let that sink in for a moment. I'm not a CODE. member, nor do I suicide gank (well, at least not often), but I've come to learn that they're actually trying to accomplish the same thing as you. Among other things, they're trying to get people to stop flying dangerously and actually enjoy the game instead of playing Boredom Online. (The fact that they're a money-making arm for various nullsec groups came later, but, whatever.) The Code always wins. Here's how: Successful suicide gank: The Code wins for obvious reasons. Unsuccessful suicide gank: The Code wins. They had fun, and maybe they scared their intended victim into flying less dangerously. Forces show up to protect assets and/or stop ganks: The Code wins. They have fun winning in spite of opposition, and people are getting more involved in actually playing the game and doing less AFK-play. People learn to stop flying dangerously and/or play AFK less: The Code wins. This is actually the core of their belief system for as much stock you put in it. The more you fight them, the more they win. The less you fight them, the more they win. Basically, they win no matter what you or anyone else does, so they always win. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures I predicted FAUXs
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 1	Posted - 2016.12.06 20:48:13 - [28] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: Other organizations have stepped forward hoping to accomplish the same as you. They've all failed. I look forward to hearing about your attempt. Oh, and don't forget that The Code always wins. Well even water destroys rocks in time, keep hating and laughing but you will see that there is alot more people who want to see a change. Maby not Ccp changing the game, but we can atleast try, just like anyone else. Fly right fitted The problem with your water/rock analogy is that you and your predecessors are the rock and ganking organizations like CODE. are the water. Let that sink in for a moment. I'm not a CODE. member, nor do I suicide gank (well, at least not often), but I've come to learn that they're actually trying to accomplish the same thing as you. Among other things, they're trying to get people to stop flying dangerously and actually enjoy the game instead of playing Boredom Online. (The fact that they're a money-making arm for various nullsec groups came later, but, whatever.) The Code always wins. Here's how: Successful suicide gank: The Code wins for obvious reasons. Unsuccessful suicide gank: The Code wins. They had fun, and maybe they scared their intended victim into flying less dangerously. Forces show up to protect assets and/or stop ganks: The Code wins. They have fun winning in spite of opposition, and people are getting more involved in actually playing the game and doing less AFK-play. People learn to stop flying dangerously and/or play AFK less: The Code wins. This is actually the core of their belief system for as much stock you put in it. The more you fight them, the more they win. The less you fight them, the more they win. Basically, they win no matter what you or anyone else does, so they always win. Wow. well your mind is pretty much set. Like any conspiracy fan you only think from one angle, no matter how much you twist it. I wont try to change your mind. But i know the code started to make isk,, easyest way possible, the reasons and the idea was build up afterwords as well as meanwhile, and there is nothing wrong with that. BUT also knowing when code started it was pretty much like this ( ppl claiming this and that, and others laughed, but they stuck to it and its now a thing). Well done imo. But they need an opposing force, evil needs to meet the good, Here we are, and our ideas and plans is in motion already, not every idea will work, but we will make a nice additions to corps who prey on helpless players. Cheers all. and help us spread the word
Paranoid Loyd 9905	Posted - 2016.12.06 21:06:38 - [29] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Like any conspiracy fan you only think from one angle. If anyone here doesn't do this, it's him. "There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix Fix the Prospect!
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3337	Posted - 2016.12.06 21:19:30 - [30] - Quote Came here expecting some solid AG post. Left dissappointed. Let me know if this is still a thing in 2 weeks Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin

Bing Bangboom DAMAG Safety Commission 563	Posted - 2016.12.06 21:41:32 - [31] - Quote I promise not to mine for a month. Send me many ISK. Highsec is worth fighting for. By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.-á www.minerbumping.com
StonerPhReaK Best Kept Frozen. LowSechnaya Sholupen 479	Posted - 2016.12.06 22:19:12 - [32] - Quote Several red flags are going up. Gurista are pirates. First impression and all. Mining isn't the only source of minerals. Will you pay mission runners to stop reprocessing scrap modules into minerals as well? Cant take anyone seriously who cant type up a good introduction. Im no spelling wizard but if i was going to provide a service i would def. spellcheck and proofread 6x. Already three red flags. AKA three strikes. Best of luck in your next iteration. Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2724	Posted - 2016.12.06 22:53:22 - [33] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: But they need an opposing force, evil needs to meet the good, On this, we agree 100%. CODE. likes having an opposing force. I think other gankers do too, but I can't speak for them. Well, technically I can't speak for CODE. either, having never been a member or even really on good terms with them, but whatever. I wrote a long and detailed post about this years ago that I can't seem to find, but what I will tell you is this: look at ganking as a fleet action. CONCORD has Godly DPS and EWar. Gankers has abundant DPS and, if they've done their job right, sufficient buffer to tank CONCORD long enough to kill their target. What CONCORD is lacking is logistics. You can't realistically kill or jam gankers faster or more efficiently than CONCORD can, especially if the gankers in question aren't -5.0, but what you can do is load up gobs of remote reps on the target spread out so that some are continuously landing. You don't have to kill the gankers faster, you just have to give CONCORD more time to do the job. Does this tactic work? In theory, sure. The problem is that no anti-ganking force has been big enough, organized enough, and willing enough to forgo whoring on ganker killmails to seriously try it. Will you? Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures I predicted FAUXs
Areen Sassel 147	Posted - 2016.12.06 23:05:17 - [34] - Quote Bing Bangboom wrote: I promise not to mine for a month. Send me many ISK. Damn it, beat me to it. But I promise not to mine twice as much as Bing doesn't.
Revis Owen The Conference Elite CODE. 443	Posted - 2016.12.07 00:26:01 - [35] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: But they need an opposing force, evil needs to meet the good I agree! We want evil opposition to meet us good guys of the New Order. Makes the game more fun, and more PvP wins for us. Agent of the New Order http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html If you do not have a current Mining Permit, please contact me for issuance.
Dom Arkaral Axios 670	Posted - 2016.12.07 03:37:13 - [36] - Quote At first, I thought this was a #B4R group, but after reading the op... I realized I was very wrong Might want to change the title to "Suicide Ganking" instead of only the former... Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Leto Thule Everywhere and Terrible 4340	Posted - 2016.12.07 04:00:13 - [37] - Quote Good denizens of C&P, I bring ill tidings. The OP is obviously none other than a Nitshe alt, attempting to subvert the highsec mining population into strike so he can sell off his bales of veldspar. (The veldspar was obtained during his MANY corp thefts, where he steals faction battleships and self destructs them, so he can salvage the materials. Yeah, he is stupid AF, I know.) I call the court into service, and request excommunication (and a hefty fine, payable to the officers of the court, of course) of the OP for the heinous and dastardly charges of: 1) Attempting to incite rebellion during time of war. 2) Slandering the New Order of Highsec. 3) Posting his OP where he thought we wouldnt see it. 4) Heresy Long live the Inquisition. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Roenok Baalnorn Sadistically Sinister 418	Posted - 2016.12.07 04:41:19 - [38] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Anti ganker stuff How to solve your ganking problem: 1. Right click on your name in game in chat. 2. select "quit corporation" then "confirm" 3. Join a null alliance 4. Move your stuff to their sov space. 5. Multibox rorqs. 6. Let your alliance defend you. 7. Profits. 8. Eve won.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 2	Posted - 2016.12.07 04:49:07 - [39] - Quote We are happy to announce that we have got some great/ and helpfull mails ingame from players. We also got a few ideas from the people, that we will work on. (very cool and smart stuff)- People of eve is amazing. We also wanna thank once again for the donations so far, and the thank you mail about our fittings. (There will be more help comming) We know that haters gets noticed quicker, Especially in forums, but we also see the good side helping out. This is a phase we must survive, And as long as we see more positive reactions by our help, we will be here for you. The people rule! Defend the new and those in need! Highsec Protecting Agency
Arkady Romanov Hole Violence Goonswarm Federation 647	Posted - 2016.12.07 05:13:57 - [40] - Quote Here's what'd happen if you successfully convinced all of Highsec to stop mining forever. Not just a strike, but an outright ending of highsec mining forever in an attempt to kerb highsec ganking: Goons get even more filthy rich. Since the Rorq change, Goons in Delve have mined more than all of highsec combined. A halt to highsec mining would put the biggest mineral stockpiles into our hands (and I'm working on the assumption that we don't have it already anyway). We'd pretty much have a controlling interest in raw minerals, which means we'd game the hell out of it. Ironically, by sitting in belts and sucking crok all day, highsec miners actually do more damage to our bottom line than if they all packed up in a huff. Whole Squid: Get Inked.

Azov Rassau The Hornets Cartel 256	Posted - 2016.12.07 06:48:29 - [41] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: Pfft, get in line, we are still waiting for XeX Znndstrup to do something worthwhile. (Been two years now) Lol, I remember his thread. 30 pages of nothing. Bronson Hughes wrote: You can't realistically kill or jam gankers faster or more efficiently than CONCORD can, especially if the gankers in question aren't -5.0, As a person who specializes in protecting miners, I can say that in many cases, with a well-executed intervention, you can jam gankers long before CONCORD's arrival and stop the gankers' DPS = prevent the gank. Hell, even a SKIFF can do it. (Some examples, for the curious, are here.) Maybe the OP can start by checking out the ECM mechanics against gankers. It's not the only method, of course, but it's fun. Just the other day I teamed up with another Anti-ganker and we ruined the gank of two Catalysts by jamming out their DPS. They had targeted a Scimitar which was a member of the other Anti-ganking fleet (composed of three ECM ships and that Scimi ) GFs echoed through local between AG and gankers and everybody had fun, gankers included. The gankers were told that they need a Ganking Permit and they even received my fantastic "Ruined Gank Report Form" with some fun elements in it. Remember, "content is the king". Keep it Fun. Be the change you want to see in Highsec. Anti-Ganking Fun: www.gankerjamming.com
Morgan Agrivar Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 687	Posted - 2016.12.07 07:27:39 - [42] - Quote I give this less than three months before it disappears with nary a whimper. Also too bad I went alpha and stripped this toon of sp or I would make a corp and have fun hunting again.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 2	Posted - 2016.12.07 07:56:48 - [43] - Quote Start thread is updated. Ty all for the support
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2016.12.07 08:04:47 - [44] - Quote Azov Rassau wrote: Paranoid Loyd wrote: Pfft, get in line, we are still waiting for XeX Znndstrup to do something worthwhile. (Been two years now) Lol, I remember his thread. 30 pages of nothing. Bronson Hughes wrote: You can't realistically kill or jam gankers faster or more efficiently than CONCORD can, especially if the gankers in question aren't -5.0, As a person who specializes in protecting miners, I can say that in many cases, with a well-executed intervention, you can jam gankers long before CONCORD's arrival and stop the gankers' DPS = prevent the gank. Hell, even a SKIFF can do it. (Some examples, for the curious, are here.) Maybe the OP can start by checking out the ECM mechanics against gankers. It's not the only method, of course, but it's fun. Just the other day I teamed up with another Anti-ganker and we ruined the gank of two Catalysts by jamming out their DPS. They had targeted a Scimitar which was a member of the other Anti-ganking fleet (composed of three ECM ships and that Scimi ) GFs echoed through local between AG and gankers and everybody had fun, gankers included. The gankers were told that they need a Ganking Permit and they even received my fantastic "Ruined Gank Report Form" with some fun elements in it. Remember, "content is the king". Keep it Fun. We have some idea's when it comes to this, we might reach out to more of our friends IF thats needed aswell!
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3251	Posted - 2016.12.07 08:24:53 - [45] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: But our real goal with this is to show how important minerals and miners are in eve and hopfully we can show that with paying corps who support us to not mine for a month (and we will cover those miners isk that they would get). And then see what happens to the market.. Its going to be chaos, and ccp will have to make a change in highsec. ( atleast that part is out big dream), but we also think that nothing is impossible within eve online. Just imagine a miner strike, now that would be something! Hey, I think this is a brilliant idea and I am totally supporting it. Anyway, as a poor ganker I don't have ISK to spare, but I will help where I can and remove all the strikebreakers and their illegal mining equipment from the belts and make them aware why they died. It is always good to have more allies fighting the good fight against criminals for a better highsec. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3340	Posted - 2016.12.07 10:22:57 - [46] - Quote Morgan Agrivar wrote: I give this less than three months before it disappears with nary a whimper. Also too bad I went alpha and stripped this toon of sp or I would make a corp and have fun hunting again. I give it 2 weeks Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2016.12.07 10:42:16 - [47] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Morgan Agrivar wrote: I give this less than three months before it disappears with nary a whimper. Also too bad I went alpha and stripped this toon of sp or I would make a corp and have fun hunting again. I give it 2 weeks I doubt that we will be gone in two weeks or even months. With all the positive response we have gotten ingame from players around New Eden, we are now even more dedicated to reach our goals.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 2	Posted - 2016.12.07 11:07:03 - [48] - Quote We just got the biggest donation by far by a singel player. Unfortinatly he wanna remain anonomus due to hes circle of friends, but we apprichiate it just as much. 500 mil donation The responses we got in just a few days is overwealming and far beyond what we thought was possible this early. Keep up and tell people about us, and we will make a change.
Liek DarZ New Order Logistics CODE. 12	Posted - 2016.12.07 11:39:34 - [49] - Quote CODE. is welcoming all hisec content contributors, thus we were positively hopeful about HPA. Yet, when trying to help the individual Baexx with improved fits (after all, CODE. may know a bit about tanking), the assistance was disregarded as "The current fits were good enough". Sure, so the max-tanked Retriever fit I recommended (still not enough IMO - fly a Procurer/Skiff or GTFO) which was rejected had more tank than the currently HPA recommended Mackinaw. Sounds like smart advisors, let us see how well they will protect Highsec - I mean, how well they will lead the resistance movement against the New Order! Bring the fight, bring your miner strike (yeah, that is going to happen), provide content - just leave out the "begging CCP for just one more nerf". Cheers, and praise James 315, Liek Darz, Knight of the New Order of Highsec.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 2	Posted - 2016.12.07 11:51:45 - [50] - Quote Liek DarZ wrote: CODE. is welcoming all hisec content contributors, thus we were positively hopeful about HPA. Yet, when trying to help the individual Baexx with improved fits (after all, CODE. may know a bit about tanking), the assistance was disregarded as "The current fits were good enough". Sure, so the max-tanked Retriever fit I recommended (still not enough IMO - fly a Procurer/Skiff or GTFO) which was rejected had more tank than the currently HPA recommended Mackinaw. Sounds like smart advisors, let us see how well they will protect Highsec - I mean, how well they will lead the resistance movement against the New Order! Bring the fight, bring your miner strike (yeah, that is going to happen), provide content - just leave out the "begging CCP for just one more nerf". Cheers, and praise James 315, Liek Darz, Knight of the New Order of Highsec. We are not trying to get a nerf within the game, we want a change! ( if that is better ships for some purposes, or better waysbto make mining more lucrative). A NERF is definetly nothing we want, we like the game mechanics and dont want to change any of that. ( i might change something in the original post that has missled some people into thinking we want a nerf).

Liek DarZ New Order Logistics CODE. 13	Posted - 2016.12.07 11:57:21 - [51] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: We are not trying to get a nerf within the game, we want a change! ( if that is better ships for some purposes, or better waysbto make mining more lucrative). A NERF is definetly nothing we want, we like the game mechanics and dont want to change any of that. ( i might change something in the original post that has missled some people into thinking we want a nerf). Great! Now I recommend you drop any recommendation of "tanked" retrievers/covetors/Mackinaws, stick to Proc/Skiff only, recommend being non-AFK and checking local/DSCAN - and, voila, you will have almost achieved Code compliance (except for the permit). We would call that progress!
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 266	Posted - 2016.12.07 12:03:16 - [52] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Liek DarZ wrote: CODE. is welcoming all hisec content contributors, thus we were positively hopeful about HPA. Yet, when trying to help the individual Baexx with improved fits (after all, CODE. may know a bit about tanking), the assistance was disregarded as "The current fits were good enough". Sure, so the max-tanked Retriever fit I recommended (still not enough IMO - fly a Procurer/Skiff or GTFO) which was rejected had more tank than the currently HPA recommended Mackinaw. Sounds like smart advisors, let us see how well they will protect Highsec - I mean, how well they will lead the resistance movement against the New Order! Bring the fight, bring your miner strike (yeah, that is going to happen), provide content - just leave out the "begging CCP for just one more nerf". Cheers, and praise James 315, Liek Darz, Knight of the New Order of Highsec. We are not trying to get a nerf within the game, we want a change! ( if that is better ships for some purposes, or better waysbto make mining more lucrative). A NERF is definetly nothing we want, we like the game mechanics and dont want to change any of that. ( i might change something in the original post that has missled some people into thinking we want a nerf). So if you don't want suicide ganking nerfed, (your title is kinda misleading) what kind of change do you want, and how do you plan to get it? It seems your current plan is "pay people to not mine while trusting them to keep up their end of the bargain in a game full of scams, then hope that rorqual pilots don't ship in compressed ore from null and laugh all the way to the bank, and finally complain to CCP in hopes of some vague change." I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 2	Posted - 2016.12.07 12:23:18 - [53] - Quote Dark Lord Trump wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Liek DarZ wrote: CODE. is welcoming all hisec content contributors, thus we were positively hopeful about HPA. Yet, when trying to help the individual Baexx with improved fits (after all, CODE. may know a bit about tanking), the assistance was disregarded as "The current fits were good enough". Sure, so the max-tanked Retriever fit I recommended (still not enough IMO - fly a Procurer/Skiff or GTFO) which was rejected had more tank than the currently HPA recommended Mackinaw. Sounds like smart advisors, let us see how well they will protect Highsec - I mean, how well they will lead the resistance movement against the New Order! Bring the fight, bring your miner strike (yeah, that is going to happen), provide content - just leave out the "begging CCP for just one more nerf". Cheers, and praise James 315, Liek Darz, Knight of the New Order of Highsec. We are not trying to get a nerf within the game, we want a change! ( if that is better ships for some purposes, or better waysbto make mining more lucrative). A NERF is definetly nothing we want, we like the game mechanics and dont want to change any of that. ( i might change something in the original post that has missled some people into thinking we want a nerf). So if you don't want suicide ganking nerfed, (your title is kinda misleading) what kind of change do you want, and how do you plan to get it? It seems your current plan is "pay people to not mine while trusting them to keep up their end of the bargain in a game full of scams, then hope that rorqual pilots don't ship in compressed ore from null and laugh all the way to the bank, and finally complain to CCP in hopes of some vague change." True, we dont want to nerf suicide ganking mechanics, we want to make changes that will profit miners in general in highsec, and making them feel safre in highsec. The title is not missleading since we will take actions against it. About the trust part Yes as in description we will use our own capital to make a market change when we know the people are on our side. The donations and the positive mails we get is showing us that this can happen.
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 266	Posted - 2016.12.07 12:38:52 - [54] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Dark Lord Trump wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Liek DarZ wrote: CODE. is welcoming all hisec content contributors, thus we were positively hopeful about HPA. Yet, when trying to help the individual Baexx with improved fits (after all, CODE. may know a bit about tanking), the assistance was disregarded as "The current fits were good enough". Sure, so the max-tanked Retriever fit I recommended (still not enough IMO - fly a Procurer/Skiff or GTFO) which was rejected had more tank than the currently HPA recommended Mackinaw. Sounds like smart advisors, let us see how well they will protect Highsec - I mean, how well they will lead the resistance movement against the New Order! Bring the fight, bring your miner strike (yeah, that is going to happen), provide content - just leave out the "begging CCP for just one more nerf". Cheers, and praise James 315, Liek Darz, Knight of the New Order of Highsec. We are not trying to get a nerf within the game, we want a change! ( if that is better ships for some purposes, or better waysbto make mining more lucrative). A NERF is definetly nothing we want, we like the game mechanics and dont want to change any of that. ( i might change something in the original post that has missled some people into thinking we want a nerf). So if you don't want suicide ganking nerfed, (your title is kinda misleading) what kind of change do you want, and how do you plan to get it? It seems your current plan is "pay people to not mine while trusting them to keep up their end of the bargain in a game full of scams, then hope that rorqual pilots don't ship in compressed ore from null and laugh all the way to the bank, and finally complain to CCP in hopes of some vague change." True, we dont want to nerf suicide ganking mechanics, we want to make changes that will profit miners in general in highsec, and making them feel safre in highsec. The title is not missleading since we will take actions against it. About the trust part Yes as in description we will use our own capital to make a market change when we know the people are on our side. The donations and the positive mails we get is showing us that this can happen. And what changes will those be? I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2729	Posted - 2016.12.07 12:53:46 - [55] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: we want to make changes that will profit miners in general in highsec, and making them feel safre in highsec. There's a very easy way to achieve this, and it's sitting right in this thread: Liek DarZ wrote: Now I recommend you drop any recommendation of "tanked" retrievers/covetors/Mackinaws, stick to Proc/Skiff only, recommend being non-AFK and checking local/DSCAN - and, voila, you will have almost achieved Code compliance (except for the permit). We would call that progress! Don't fly dangerously (i.e. not minding your surroundings while sitting still undocked in expensive, paper-thin ships), and you'll actually be safer, not just feel safer. When the people who excel at killing miners tell you what makes it hard for them to kill miners, maybe you should listen. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures I predicted FAUXs
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat Snuffed Out 3754	Posted - 2016.12.07 13:11:11 - [56] - Quote Oh one of these corps, aint seen one of these in a while, are you accepting donations? Alliance Logo Design Service -- Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat Snuffed Out 3754	Posted - 2016.12.07 13:15:53 - [57] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Just imagine a miner strike, now that would be something! wouldn't happen, a highsec miner could not go 1 hour without getting isk/hr withdrawal Alliance Logo Design Service -- Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Mobadder Thworst The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent 1048	Posted - 2016.12.07 14:06:16 - [58] - Quote This is the most inspirational, insightful, and game changing post that has hit C&P in a long time. How could I want anything but to help! This is a great idea!!! I can't just participate. I must help lead this. First, let me reach out to the C&P community and see if we can organize this strike. To the leaders of the merc community: I want, need, and expect your commitment that your corporations will stop mining for a duration of 1 mont from today. With this commitment given, we will stop mining until the 7th of January. I personally commit that I will not mine. I'm looking at you, Marmites, Vendetta, Free Candy, Devils Warrior Alliance... all of you. Let's answer this call to greatness with a loud and thunderous... answer. I can almost feel the impact of our actions already! There is, of course, the matter of the stipend which was promised. I should imagine it will fine to place the invoices for lost mining wages directly in this thread. Please post those so that our lower level accountants can address and cover your every cost. Do not sell yourselves short. Additionally, we may need help keeping the strike orderly and preventing the odd "scab" from attempting to profit from this situation. There is an organization of which I am aware who has helped keep high-sec mining operations orderly in the past. I think they are called "CODE". While their typical activities don't outlaw mining outright, I think a cause such as this could only be more successful with their support. CODE, we need your help. Do not let us down! The mining must stop!!! Finally, in order to relieve you of the immense burden of handling all of this isk alone, I offer my somewhat reputable 3rd party isk holding services. I will be glad to start accepting donations on behalf of this movement immediately. To prenatal benefactors and magnanimous philanthropists, simply flash your support to my wallet and I will do good on your behalf. I feel rejuvenated just imagining all the good we can do. This is the future. We are the future. Let's do it for the children.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 2	Posted - 2016.12.07 18:32:31 - [59] - Quote Dark Lord Trump wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Dark Lord Trump wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Liek DarZ wrote: CODE. is welcoming all hisec content contributors, thus we were positively hopeful about HPA. Yet, when trying to help the individual Baexx with improved fits (after all, CODE. may know a bit about tanking), the assistance was disregarded as "The current fits were good enough". Sure, so the max-tanked Retriever fit I recommended (still not enough IMO - fly a Procurer/Skiff or GTFO) which was rejected had more tank than the currently HPA recommended Mackinaw. Sounds like smart advisors, let us see how well they will protect Highsec - I mean, how well they will lead the resistance movement against the New Order! Bring the fight, bring your miner strike (yeah, that is going to happen), provide content - just leave out the "begging CCP for just one more nerf". Cheers, and praise James 315, Liek Darz, Knight of the New Order of Highsec. We are not trying to get a nerf within the game, we want a change! ( if that is better ships for some purposes, or better waysbto make mining more lucrative). A NERF is definetly nothing we want, we like the game mechanics and dont want to change any of that. ( i might change something in the original post that has missled some people into thinking we want a nerf). So if you don't want suicide ganking nerfed, (your title is kinda misleading) what kind of change do you want, and how do you plan to get it? It seems your current plan is "pay people to not mine while trusting them to keep up their end of the bargain in a game full of scams, then hope that rorqual pilots don't ship in compressed ore from null and laugh all the way to the bank, and finally complain to CCP in hopes of some vague change." True, we dont want to nerf suicide ganking mechanics, we want to make changes that will profit miners in general in highsec, and making them feel safre in highsec. The title is not missleading since we will take actions against it. About the trust part Yes as in description we will use our own capital to make a market change when we know the people are on our side. The donations and the positive mails we get is showing us that this can happen. And what changes will those be? Iv updated the main post with the ansver you seek.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2731	Posted - 2016.12.07 18:43:20 - [60] - Quote So, wait, you want to protect miners by playing market games with the ore/mineral markets to drive up prices? Okay. Not sure what to say about that other than I'm curious to see how this plays out. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures I predicted FAUXs

Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 13277	Posted - 2016.12.07 18:44:45 - [61] - Quote I would like to donate a few dictionaries and a couple of style guides to the cause. Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY Domestic Disturbance 409	Posted - 2016.12.07 19:38:12 - [62] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: If this wont leave a mark in eve`s history, We will be surpriced. If you can get even 50 miners to join your strike, we will be surprised(alts included). If you can gather even 10 billion isk of what will probably be hundreds of billions or even maybe trillions of isk required to buy up all the minerals in Jita, we will be surprised. If you stay here for more than a couple months without never replying to this post again, like the last AG "Heroes of Hisec" topic, we will be surprised. If this wasnt a scam, we would be surprised. If you had half a brain cell, we would be surprised.
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 2546	Posted - 2016.12.07 19:48:50 - [63] - Quote Oh dear, I had read this thread but had decided not to bother replying to it until someone linked the thread in the AG channel and the comments were "WTF is this", and "it appeared to be the 50th scam attempt along these lines" and "this is not what the HSM does anyway" which is a resistance movement with volunteers. So from what I saw in the AG channel a large raspberry was blown. Would not surprise me if this was Erotica1 getting bored again... When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour. Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 2	Posted - 2016.12.07 20:09:47 - [64] - Quote Solonius Rex wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: If this wont leave a mark in eve`s history, We will be surpriced. If you can get even 50 miners to join your strike, we will be surprised(alts included). If you can gather even 10 billion isk of what will probably be hundreds of billions or even maybe trillions of isk required to buy up all the minerals in Jita, we will be surprised. If you stay here for more than a couple months without never replying to this post again, like the last AG "Heroes of Hisec" topic, we will be surprised. If this wasnt a scam, we would be surprised. If you had half a brain cell, we would be surprised. As we keep saying- the isk we use to buy all the minerals in jita and amarr is from our own wallets and not from the donations. ( the donations wont be a part of that). The isk from donations is for the other perposes we have stated several times. Replacing ships, helping miners with different stuff, among other. Knowing whow many we got on our side, and how many want to see this happening. We hope yo get more than 50 miners lol :D alot more. We will still be in this thread ansvering your questions while we supporting eve`s miners.
Sol epoch HELVEGEN Jetpack Viking 383	Posted - 2016.12.07 20:44:03 - [65] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Solonius Rex wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: If this wont leave a mark in eve`s history, We will be surpriced. If you can get even 50 miners to join your strike, we will be surprised(alts included). If you can gather even 10 billion isk of what will probably be hundreds of billions or even maybe trillions of isk required to buy up all the minerals in Jita, we will be surprised. If you stay here for more than a couple months without never replying to this post again, like the last AG "Heroes of Hisec" topic, we will be surprised. If this wasnt a scam, we would be surprised. If you had half a brain cell, we would be surprised. As we keep saying- the isk we use to buy all the minerals in jita and amarr is from our own wallets and not from the donations. ( the donations wont be a part of that). The isk from donations is for the other perposes we have stated several times. Replacing ships, helping miners with different stuff, among other. Knowing whow many we got on our side, and how many want to see this happening. We hope yo get more than 50 miners lol :D alot more. We will still be in this thread ansvering your questions while we supporting eve`s miners. I hope you can do better than you can at spelling! I give you 1 month if that and you will have faded into obscurity like all the rest.
Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 185	Posted - 2016.12.07 20:54:09 - [66] - Quote You say a great deal, Ma'am, and you appear somewhat unnaturally excitable. Yet, you offer absolutely no proof that anything whatsoever is actually happening (or is indeed likely to happen). Away with you!
Dom Arkaral Axios 673	Posted - 2016.12.07 21:34:01 - [67] - Quote "We" this "We" that Are you talking about you and your alts? Also do you have trillions of isk to buy all the minerals? If you answered "yes" to both, well no one cares ad it's obviously bs. If you answered "yes" to one, well we (as in the wonderful people of C&P) would like proof of those "never attained before" achievements of yours. (As in API keys) Also do change the title as you're not talking about anything related to the Broadcast 4 Reps... Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 268	Posted - 2016.12.07 22:15:54 - [68] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Iv updated the main post with the ansver you seek. Phase 1: I wish you luck with this one, but CODE has already been doing this for years, and yet people still fit storyline mining upgrades to their untanked Hulks. It is a noble goal though, and I support tanking your ship. Phase 2: Are the donations just an indicator of how much people want it, or is it to support something? If the former, why do you need money for that, and if the latter, why can't you just use the pile of money you're going to buy out Jita with. Phase 3: You're welcome to try, but you can't be everywhere. Anti-ganking has been doing this for a while with low success, but if you've found the secret to defeating gankers, go right ahead. Phase 4: I really doubt you actually have the money for this. Using some lazy math (eve-markets sell amount*median price), you'd need around 500 BILLION isk just to buy all the tritanium. You'd have to be insanely wealthy to buy everything in Jita and Amarr. I think you are missing a fundumental misunderstanding of economics. You seem to want miners to make more money, but you fail to understand that increasing the prices of everything won't increase their real wage at all. If Miner Dude wants to do something other than mine, he might feel rich with 3-4x the money in his pocket until he realizes everything is 3-4x more expensive. Furthermore, as mining surpasses other ISK-making professions, more people will switch to it, and this will drive down the price unless you're equipped to handle ever-increasing volumes of ore. Also, I noticed that your corp history only goes back to August. Post on your main please. My scam-o-meter is rapidly approaching the danger zone. I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Pix Severus Empty You 5196	Posted - 2016.12.07 22:17:04 - [69] - Quote I especially liked the part where you made a typo on your alt in the second post after making all those typos in your OP. MTU Hunter: Latest Entry - Jun 7 2016 - Vocal Local 3: Salt Edition MTU Hunting 101: Comprehensive Guide
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY Domestic Disturbance 410	Posted - 2016.12.07 23:45:36 - [70] - Quote Dark Lord Trump wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Iv updated the main post with the ansver you seek. Phase 1: I wish you luck with this one, but CODE has already been doing this for years, and yet people still fit storyline mining upgrades to their untanked Hulks. It is a noble goal though, and I support tanking your ship. Phase 2: Are the donations just an indicator of how much people want it, or is it to support something? If the former, why do you need money for that, and if the latter, why can't you just use the pile of money you're going to buy out Jita with. Phase 3: You're welcome to try, but you can't be everywhere. Anti-ganking has been doing this for a while with low success, but if you've found the secret to defeating gankers, go right ahead. Phase 4: I really doubt you actually have the money for this. Using some lazy math (eve-markets sell amount*median price), you'd need around 500 BILLION isk just to buy all the tritanium. You'd have to be insanely wealthy to buy everything in Jita and Amarr. I think you are missing a fundumental misunderstanding of economics. You seem to want miners to make more money, but you fail to understand that increasing the prices of everything won't increase their real wage at all. If Miner Dude wants to do something other than mine, he might feel rich with 3-4x the money in his pocket until he realizes everything is 3-4x more expensive. Furthermore, as mining surpasses other ISK-making professions, more people will switch to it, and this will drive down the price unless you're equipped to handle ever-increasing volumes of ore. Also, I noticed that your corp history only goes back to August. Post on your main please. My scam-o-meter is rapidly approaching the danger zone. Maybe this is 1ronbanks secret alt?

Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2737	Posted - 2016.12.08 00:18:33 - [71] - Quote Pix Severus wrote: I especially liked the part where you made a typo on your alt in the second post after making all those typos in your OP. So meta. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures I predicted FAUXs
StonerPhReaK Best Kept Frozen. LowSechnaya Sholupen 486	Posted - 2016.12.08 00:37:57 - [72] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: As we keep saying- the isk we use to buy all the minerals in jita and amarr is from your own wallets from the donations. ( the donations have to be a part of that). Your isk from donations is for the other perposes we havnt stated several times. Replacing our ships, helping miners get ganked easier with our terrible fits, among other. Knowing how many we got is key. We hope to scam more than 50 miners lol :D alot more. We will still be in this thread swerving from legit questions while we continue scamming eve`s miners. Shoulda edited your post before submitting it. Prove to us you are beta players by posting with your main and i will donatello youre cause. If you want us to believe what you say. Show some proof. The ball is in your court. Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2016.12.08 03:53:50 - [73] - Quote We knew some that some people would get offended with this topic, calling out that we are alts and that we cant spell. But we are still dong this because we know that we can. And as someone stated about how much isk that is needed, we do have some isk. And we know that we can make a deep impact in the game when we are ready.
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY Domestic Disturbance 411	Posted - 2016.12.08 04:00:29 - [74] - Quote Baexx wrote: We knew some that some people would get offended with this topic, calling out that we are alts and that we cant spell. But we are still dong this because we know that we can. And as someone stated about how much isk that is needed, we do have some isk. And we know that we can make a deep impact in the game when we are ready. But this can be a big thing. We want as we said before, more people behind us. But do you have trillions? because thats how much its gonna cost. And its gotta be a everything or nothing, all-in type of thing. You cant just buy out the markets for half a day and then run out of money. Also, if you have that much isk, then why would you need donations? It feels as though even a couple billion, which is all it would cost to reimburse people and help people, would be pennies compared to your wallet.
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2016.12.08 04:12:46 - [75] - Quote Solonius Rex wrote: Baexx wrote: We knew some that some people would get offended with this topic, calling out that we are alts and that we cant spell. But we are still dong this because we know that we can. And as someone stated about how much isk that is needed, we do have some isk. And we know that we can make a deep impact in the game when we are ready. But this can be a big thing. We want as we said before, more people behind us. But do you have trillions? because thats how much its gonna cost. And its gotta be a everything or nothing, all-in type of thing. You cant just buy out the markets for half a day and then run out of money. Also, if you have that much isk, then why would you need donations? It feels as though even a couple billion, which is all it would cost to reimburse people and help people, would be pennies compared to your wallet. The donations are more of a way for us to see how many people that would actually support this. And of course all that isk will go back to the players aswell, as you said to cover ship costs etc.
Dom Arkaral Axios 677	Posted - 2016.12.08 04:29:00 - [76] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: "We" this "We" that Are you talking about you and your alts? Also do you have trillions of isk to buy all the minerals? If you answered "yes" to both, well no one cares ad it's obviously bs. If you answered "yes" to one, well we (as in the wonderful people of C&P) would like proof of those "never attained before" achievements of yours. (As in API keys) Also do change the title as you're not talking about anything related to the Broadcast 4 Reps... I will quote myself since we still have no proof of either the "trillions" you have, Nor have we proof that people even donated to you (especially since you have "trillions"... why the f would anyone give isk to a rich guy anyways?) This looks like you trying to bait C&P with your "highly original" scheme (yes you're the idiot on the boat) Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 269	Posted - 2016.12.08 04:30:50 - [77] - Quote Baexx wrote: We knew some that some people would get offended with this topic, calling out that we are alts and that we cant spell. But we are still dong this because we know that we can. And as someone stated about how much isk that is needed, we do have some isk. And we know that we can make a deep impact in the game when we are ready. But this can be a big thing. We want as we said before, more people behind us WHO share our thoughts. I'm not offended. I'm just legitimately curious why I should send my hard-earned ISK to people who are too cowardly to post on their mains. If you have absolutely no proof of who you say you are, why should I trust you? I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 2	Posted - 2016.12.08 04:57:23 - [78] - Quote Dark Lord Trump wrote: Baexx wrote: We knew some that some people would get offended with this topic, calling out that we are alts and that we cant spell. But we are still dong this because we know that we can. And as someone stated about how much isk that is needed, we do have some isk. And we know that we can make a deep impact in the game when we are ready. But this can be a big thing. We want as we said before, more people behind us WHO share our thoughts. I'm not offended. I'm just legitimately curious why I should send my hard-earned ISK to people who are too cowardly to post on their mains. If you have absolutely no proof of who you say you are, why should I trust you? I am reading everything that gets posted, and some people still have good questions that i totally understand, but many of the posts in here got questions that already been ansvered or already have a plain ansver in the original post. I understand that most of the people here gets abit blown away by what we are about to do, and by that i do get it that you dont read all 100 posts and will miss ansvers you might have. But i will try and keep this thread updated with the latest news. Yes ofc we are alts. Doing this with any of my main characters is a big no :) ( reasons are to plentyfull) About proof of the donations,,,,, you need someone else to donate before you want to?,, hum... when in doubt...dont.. right. Its eve after all. what else can i say.
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY Domestic Disturbance 412	Posted - 2016.12.08 05:06:25 - [79] - Quote Baexx wrote: Solonius Rex wrote: Baexx wrote: We knew some that some people would get offended with this topic, calling out that we are alts and that we cant spell. But we are still dong this because we know that we can. And as someone stated about how much isk that is needed, we do have some isk. And we know that we can make a deep impact in the game when we are ready. But this can be a big thing. We want as we said before, more people behind us. But do you have trillions? because thats how much its gonna cost. And its gotta be a everything or nothing, all-in type of thing. You cant just buy out the markets for half a day and then run out of money. Also, if you have that much isk, then why would you need donations? It feels as though even a couple billion, which is all it would cost to reimburse people and help people, would be pennies compared to your wallet. The donations are more of a way for us to see how many people that would actually support this. And of course all that isk will go back to the players aswell, as you said to cover ship costs etc. Well of course all the hisec miners are going to support this, if it means they get free ships. But thats the point, you seem to have enough money to not need any donations to buy up *all* the minerals in jita, and yet are asking for donations.
Tengu Grib The Dickwad Squad Legio De Mortem 1552	Posted - 2016.12.08 06:09:24 - [80] - Quote Just thought I'd check in to say hi. I see a lot of familiar faces in this thread! \o/ To the OP, lol good luck with that. Rabble Rabble Rabble Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 2	Posted - 2016.12.08 08:19:10 - [81] - Quote Solonius Rex wrote: Baexx wrote: Solonius Rex wrote: Baexx wrote: We knew some that some people would get offended with this topic, calling out that we are alts and that we cant spell. But we are still dong this because we know that we can. And as someone stated about how much isk that is needed, we do have some isk. And we know that we can make a deep impact in the game when we are ready. But this can be a big thing. We want as we said before, more people behind us. But do you have trillions? because thats how much its gonna cost. And its gotta be a everything or nothing, all-in type of thing. You cant just buy out the markets for half a day and then run out of money. Also, if you have that much isk, then why would you need donations? It feels as though even a couple billion, which is all it would cost to reimburse people and help people, would be pennies compared to your wallet. The donations are more of a way for us to see how many people that would actually support this. And of course all that isk will go back to the players aswell, as you said to cover ship costs etc. Well of course all the hisec miners are going to support this, if it means they get free ships. But thats the point, you seem to have enough money to not need any donations to buy up *all* the minerals in jita, and yet are asking for donations. Correctly, yet the donations is for lost ships/ anti suicide ganking ships, and paying our supporters with isk for Holding minerals from jita and amarr for a period, while we do our thing. Thats what donations are for. Also that helps us check how many people we got supporting this act, and how much they want it.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3343	Posted - 2016.12.08 08:57:06 - [82] - Quote To summerise this Thread We want to make mining profitable and safer cause reasons We want your donations to help us acheive this We are filthy rich beta players posting on young likely alpha clones cause reasons We are one but we are not many We haven't actually done anything with our trillions to make any of this happen yet Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3343	Posted - 2016.12.08 09:00:33 - [83] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Just thought I'd check in to say hi. I see a lot of familiar faces in this thread! \o/ To the OP, lol good luck with that. Rabble Rabble Rabble Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 2	Posted - 2016.12.08 09:24:51 - [84] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: To summerise this Thread We want to make mining profitable and safer cause reasons We want your donations to help us acheive this We are filthy rich beta players posting on young likely alpha clones cause reasons We are one but we are not many We haven't actually done anything with our trillions to make any of this happen yet You can look at an elephant from many different angels and from every view you will get a different perspective, but in reality its still just an elephant.
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat Snuffed Out 3765	Posted - 2016.12.08 09:26:51 - [85] - Quote "many different angels" hahaha Alliance Logo Design Service -- Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3267	Posted - 2016.12.08 09:32:12 - [86] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: Oh dear, I had read this thread but had decided not to bother replying to it until someone linked the thread in the AG channel and the comments were "WTF is this", and "it appeared to be the 50th scam attempt along these lines" and "this is not what the HSM does anyway" which is a resistance movement with volunteers. So from what I saw in the AG channel a large raspberry was blown. Would not surprise me if this was Erotica1 getting bored again... You may actually be right. There are some serious red flags raised here that tells us it can't be AG. For example they have a plan which involves ingame actions and not whining on the forums for CCPs help. Also they seam to get investors and are not completely failing right from the start all the time daily non stop (HSM). And the most important point is probably their posts are far away from the usual AG toxicity levels, I mean they even used the words "game" and "fun". the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 2549	Posted - 2016.12.08 09:46:08 - [87] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Dracvlad wrote: Oh dear, I had read this thread but had decided not to bother replying to it until someone linked the thread in the AG channel and the comments were "WTF is this", and "it appeared to be the 50th scam attempt along these lines" and "this is not what the HSM does anyway" which is a resistance movement with volunteers. So from what I saw in the AG channel a large raspberry was blown. Would not surprise me if this was Erotica1 getting bored again... You may actually be right. There are some serious red flags raised here that tells us it can't be AG. For example they have a plan which involves ingame actions and not whining on the forums for CCPs help. Also they seam to get investors and are not completely failing right from the start all the time daily non stop (HSM). And the most important point is probably their posts are far away from the usual AG toxicity levels, I mean they even used the words "game" and "fun". So full of hate for the AG players as per normal, the mask slips... In game action is actually something AG players do, they do save rather a lot of ships which is impressive for a group that are doing this as volunteers off of their own back. I had a lot of fun bumping an NCDOT. JF a while back away from the optimal of your Catalysts and had even more fun when he then jumped to a cyno. That you are praising this 'effort' makes me 99% sure it is an Alpha clone alt of Erotica1. When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour. Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3268	Posted - 2016.12.08 10:09:47 - [88] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: So full of hate for the AG players as per normal... Just mentioned that they fail constantly, daily, non-stop without a break. Not sure why you think that has something to do with hate. Dracvlad wrote: That you are praising this 'effort' makes me 99% sure it is an Alpha clone alt of Erotica1. You should mix some goon into that equation or are they out of fashion in the crackpot camp? the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 2549	Posted - 2016.12.08 11:04:59 - [89] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Dracvlad wrote: So full of hate for the AG players as per normal... Just mentioned that they fail constantly, daily, non-stop without a break. Not sure why you think that has something to do with hate. Dracvlad wrote: That you are praising this 'effort' makes me 99% sure it is an Alpha clone alt of Erotica1. You should mix some goon into that equation or are they out of fashion in the crackpot camp? They save some, as I keep pointing out they are a resistance movement and cannot be compared to the well funded gankers with multiple plexed accounts and a stockpile of ships supplied by the Goons and other such players. Also as they are giving fun content back and all you can do is belittle the fun content, I know where the hate lies, you should look in the mirror. Well I have seen four such efforts by Erotica1 all with a similar theme of trying to get people to fund it, on the scale of probability it looks like Erotica1 is having another fail attempt. When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour. Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2016.12.08 12:02:22 - [90] - Quote Forums are usually a toxic place this is no exception. It wont matter what we say regarding all the claims that we are an alt to someone beeing mentioned in this thread. We are doing our thing, people will take guesses on WHO we are at all times, we know this. Anyways, we have a goal and we will reach the goal. We only need the support from the players and a little bit of time.

Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 27111	Posted - 2016.12.08 12:16:15 - [91] - Quote popcorn Threads like this are like car crashes, you know you shouldn't look but you can't help yourself. Civilised behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 2	Posted - 2016.12.08 12:34:44 - [92] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: popcorn Threads like this are like car crashes, you know you shouldn't look but you can't help yourself. Hahaha
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 272	Posted - 2016.12.08 13:12:27 - [93] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Dark Lord Trump wrote: Baexx wrote: We knew some that some people would get offended with this topic, calling out that we are alts and that we cant spell. But we are still dong this because we know that we can. And as someone stated about how much isk that is needed, we do have some isk. And we know that we can make a deep impact in the game when we are ready. But this can be a big thing. We want as we said before, more people behind us WHO share our thoughts. I'm not offended. I'm just legitimately curious why I should send my hard-earned ISK to people who are too cowardly to post on their mains. If you have absolutely no proof of who you say you are, why should I trust you? I am reading everything that gets posted, and some people still have good questions that i totally understand, but many of the posts in here got questions that already been ansvered or already have a plain ansver in the original post. I understand that most of the people here gets abit blown away by what we are about to do, and by that i do get it that you dont read all 100 posts and will miss ansvers you might have. But i will try and keep this thread updated with the latest news. Yes ofc we are alts. Doing this with any of my main characters is a big no :) ( reasons are to plentyfull) About proof of the donations,,,,, you need someone else to donate before you want to?,, hum... when in doubt...dont.. right. Its eve after all. what else can i say. I assure you I have read all the posts in this thread. I also fail to see why using mains could be an issue, especially since you don't say why. Surely super-rich players could probably afford to keep all the mercs on retainer? As it has been said in C&P, so it shall be said again: post with your main or GTFO. Especially when you want me to trust you. I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 3	Posted - 2016.12.08 13:23:27 - [94] - Quote Dark Lord Trump wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Dark Lord Trump wrote: Baexx wrote: We knew some that some people would get offended with this topic, calling out that we are alts and that we cant spell. But we are still dong this because we know that we can. And as someone stated about how much isk that is needed, we do have some isk. And we know that we can make a deep impact in the game when we are ready. But this can be a big thing. We want as we said before, more people behind us WHO share our thoughts. I'm not offended. I'm just legitimately curious why I should send my hard-earned ISK to people who are too cowardly to post on their mains. If you have absolutely no proof of who you say you are, why should I trust you? I am reading everything that gets posted, and some people still have good questions that i totally understand, but many of the posts in here got questions that already been ansvered or already have a plain ansver in the original post. I understand that most of the people here gets abit blown away by what we are about to do, and by that i do get it that you dont read all 100 posts and will miss ansvers you might have. But i will try and keep this thread updated with the latest news. Yes ofc we are alts. Doing this with any of my main characters is a big no :) ( reasons are to plentyfull) About proof of the donations,,,,, you need someone else to donate before you want to?,, hum... when in doubt...dont.. right. Its eve after all. what else can i say. I assure you I have read all the posts in this thread. I also fail to see why using mains could be an issue, especially since you don't say why. Surely super-rich players could probably afford to keep all the mercs on retainer? As it has been said in C&P, so it shall be said again: post with your main or GTFO. Especially when you want me to trust you. Well unless i know what you can offer us, i see no point in trying to talk you over. GTFO is cool and mature, seems we will get along fine. I got a mail recently i would like to ansver here. Why not just do it now? Reason is quite simple. Why do something just cause you can do it, and why do it alone. Will it not be more fun if you can bring others to make a difference with you so they can say " i was there, we did that". Personally i want that, rather than doing something on your own. Sry for that ansver in here. But it was a good question. I hope many more will be a part of this in the end.
Mobadder Thworst The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent 1050	Posted - 2016.12.08 13:34:12 - [95] - Quote I'm now 24 hours into leading this movement and I can see why nobody has been successful with this before. I can't get any of the large merc corps to stop mining. CODE doesn't want anything to do with miners, and I haven't received a single donation. It's terrible. I really thought we were onto something here. Rippy, I don't know what else to do.
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat Snuffed Out 3765	Posted - 2016.12.08 13:38:23 - [96] - Quote want to pledge 20b Alliance Logo Design Service -- Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 275	Posted - 2016.12.08 13:56:41 - [97] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Dark Lord Trump wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Dark Lord Trump wrote: Baexx wrote: We knew some that some people would get offended with this topic, calling out that we are alts and that we cant spell. But we are still dong this because we know that we can. And as someone stated about how much isk that is needed, we do have some isk. And we know that we can make a deep impact in the game when we are ready. But this can be a big thing. We want as we said before, more people behind us WHO share our thoughts. I'm not offended. I'm just legitimately curious why I should send my hard-earned ISK to people who are too cowardly to post on their mains. If you have absolutely no proof of who you say you are, why should I trust you? I am reading everything that gets posted, and some people still have good questions that i totally understand, but many of the posts in here got questions that already been ansvered or already have a plain ansver in the original post. I understand that most of the people here gets abit blown away by what we are about to do, and by that i do get it that you dont read all 100 posts and will miss ansvers you might have. But i will try and keep this thread updated with the latest news. Yes ofc we are alts. Doing this with any of my main characters is a big no :) ( reasons are to plentyfull) About proof of the donations,,,,, you need someone else to donate before you want to?,, hum... when in doubt...dont.. right. Its eve after all. what else can i say. I assure you I have read all the posts in this thread. I also fail to see why using mains could be an issue, especially since you don't say why. Surely super-rich players could probably afford to keep all the mercs on retainer? As it has been said in C&P, so it shall be said again: post with your main or GTFO. Especially when you want me to trust you. Well unless i know what you can offer us, i see no point in trying to talk you over. GTFO is cool and mature, seems we will get along fine. I got a mail recently i would like to ansver here. Why not just do it now? Reason is quite simple. Why do something just cause you can do it, and why do it alone. Will it not be more fun if you can bring others to make a difference with you so they can say " i was there, we did that". Personally i want that, rather than doing something on your own. Sry for that ansver in here. But it was a good question. I hope many more will be a part of this in the end. I apologize if you are offended, but post with your main or GTFO is a proud tradition of Crime and Punishment. The fact that you fail to do so suggests you're hiding something or are a coward, neither of which are conducive of radical change. If you can't be bothered to reply with your main, or sufficient reasons as to why you can't, I will have no choice but to accept that as proof of scam. I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Liek DarZ New Order Logistics CODE. 24	Posted - 2016.12.08 13:57:29 - [98] - Quote I promise I will not mine until HPA's work is complete or until hell freezes. Whatever comes first.
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1956	Posted - 2016.12.08 14:00:39 - [99] - Quote reads OP snickers So. How much is Chribba paying you to try and drive up veldspar prices.? Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Sequester Risalo Semiki Minerals and Missiles Company Ltd. 255	Posted - 2016.12.08 14:02:36 - [100] - Quote Im curious. Are there any minerals left in Jita? Or haven't we reached phase 4 yet?

Mobadder Thworst The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent 1054	Posted - 2016.12.08 14:10:15 - [101] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: want to pledge 20b Thank you for that donation LAN Wang. I will disburse it with the utmost care. Any other donations, please flash my wallet, I am the financial face of this movement( and the only non alt).
Mobadder Thworst The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent 1055	Posted - 2016.12.08 14:22:03 - [102] - Quote Liek DarZ wrote: I promise I will not mine until HPA's work is complete or until hell freezes. Whatever comes first. You, sir, are a good man. Please invoice the movement for any losses incurred through your altruism. Rippy will have our low level accountants reimburse you with the trillions he has on hand.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3349	Posted - 2016.12.08 16:33:49 - [103] - Quote Mobadder Thworst wrote: Lan Wang wrote: want to pledge 20b Thank you for that donation LAN Wang. I will disburse it with the utmost care. Any other donations, please flash my wallet, I am the head of donation acceptance for this movement( and the only non alt). Please send me full account wide API keys when donating to MO so I can Third party confirm the donation took place on your end Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2748	Posted - 2016.12.08 16:36:54 - [104] - Quote This thread delivers. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures I predicted FAUXs
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2016.12.08 16:45:33 - [105] - Quote Still the support from players looks pretty damn good right now.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 3	Posted - 2016.12.08 16:59:33 - [106] - Quote Baexx wrote: Still the support from players looks pretty damn good right now. This is going to be big in eve for sure, but it will take the time it needs to get everyones attention.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 3	Posted - 2016.12.08 18:05:38 - [107] - Quote After quite some jokes in this thread lets continue with what we want from the people (since you clearly taking the donation part way to serious) What you can do to be a part of this is. Mail/Pm us and tell us that you looking forward to be active in this event. Mail/Pm us and say that you want to know when its going to happen, and if you want, you can give more ideas. If you want to work with us! in this case, apply to the corp when we start recruiting. We will need people to both helping us help the people with fits/ aswell telling them about this thread and what we are going to do. We will also need fighters to bring the destruction to the fields. You can also tell your friends about this, make plans what you yourselfe will be doing during this event. (Quite alot of people aint dumb and will use this Minerstrike to make alot of isk on the market). You can of caurse also donate to out corp to show that you want this to happen. 1 milj-10milj or whatever you feel is good for you. How we decide when this will go down. We are keeping track of every individual donator. We are keeping track of every mail we get of every individual supporter. We adding every PM we get that tells us positive things about our idea. When our numbers of Supporters/Donators reach our different set goals, we start a new phase in our Minerstrike. When the times comes we will. Give date and time on when this will go down, (This information will be given to our supporters and donators one hour before the thread. Have fun and lets hope for the best
Dom Arkaral Axios 681	Posted - 2016.12.08 18:08:50 - [108] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: After quite some jokes in this thread lets continue with what we want from the people (since you clearly taking the donation part way to serious) What you can do to be a part of this is. Mail/Pm us and tell us that you looking forward to be active in this event. Mail/Pm us and say that you want to know when its going to happen, and if you want, you can give more ideas. If you want to work with us! in this case, apply to the corp when we start recruiting. We will need people to both helping us help the people with fits/ aswell telling them about this thread and what we are going to do. We will also need fighters to bring the destruction to the fields. You can also tell your friends about this, make plans what you yourselfe will be doing during this event. (Quite alot of people aint dumb and will use this Minerstrike to make alot of isk on the market). You can of caurse also donate to out corp to show that you want this to happen. 1 milj-10milj or whatever you feel is good for you. How we decide when this will go down. We are keeping track of every individual donator. We are keeping track of every mail we get of every individual supporter. We adding every PM we get that tells us positive things about our idea. When our numbers of Supporters/Donators reach our different set goals, we start a new phase in our Minerstrike. When the times comes we will. Give date and time on when this will go down Have fun and lets hope for the best So basically... Nothing will ever happen (since you already can't grow the balls required to post on your main XD) ans C&P will have seen another lunatic that "wanted to change EVE forever" Next! Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 3	Posted - 2016.12.08 18:11:16 - [109] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: After quite some jokes in this thread lets continue with what we want from the people (since you clearly taking the donation part way to serious) What you can do to be a part of this is. Mail/Pm us and tell us that you looking forward to be active in this event. Mail/Pm us and say that you want to know when its going to happen, and if you want, you can give more ideas. If you want to work with us! in this case, apply to the corp when we start recruiting. We will need people to both helping us help the people with fits/ aswell telling them about this thread and what we are going to do. We will also need fighters to bring the destruction to the fields. You can also tell your friends about this, make plans what you yourselfe will be doing during this event. (Quite alot of people aint dumb and will use this Minerstrike to make alot of isk on the market). You can of caurse also donate to out corp to show that you want this to happen. 1 milj-10milj or whatever you feel is good for you. How we decide when this will go down. We are keeping track of every individual donator. We are keeping track of every mail we get of every individual supporter. We adding every PM we get that tells us positive things about our idea. When our numbers of Supporters/Donators reach our different set goals, we start a new phase in our Minerstrike. When the times comes we will. Give date and time on when this will go down Have fun and lets hope for the best So basically... Nothing will ever happen (since you already can't grow the balls required to post on your main XD) ans C&P will have seen another lunatic that "wanted to change EVE forever" Next! I got plenty of reasons as to why i wont give out any of my main`s. That is still final and wont change so yes i guess your out of the picture then.
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 276	Posted - 2016.12.08 19:33:00 - [110] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: After quite some jokes in this thread lets continue with what we want from the people (since you clearly taking the donation part way to serious) What you can do to be a part of this is. Mail/Pm us and tell us that you looking forward to be active in this event. Mail/Pm us and say that you want to know when its going to happen, and if you want, you can give more ideas. If you want to work with us! in this case, apply to the corp when we start recruiting. We will need people to both helping us help the people with fits/ aswell telling them about this thread and what we are going to do. We will also need fighters to bring the destruction to the fields. You can also tell your friends about this, make plans what you yourselfe will be doing during this event. (Quite alot of people aint dumb and will use this Minerstrike to make alot of isk on the market). Type MinerStrike is Coming!! in your bio to show support. Type MinerStrike is Coming!! in local to also show support. You can of caurse also donate to out corp to show that you want this to happen. 1 milj-10milj or whatever you feel is good for you. How we decide when this will go down. We are keeping track of every individual donator. We are keeping track of every mail we get of every individual supporter. We adding every PM we get that tells us positive things about our idea. When our numbers of Supporters/Donators reach our different set goals, we start a new phase in our Minerstrike. When the times comes we will. Give date and time on when this will go down Have fun and lets hope for the best So basically... Nothing will ever happen (since you already can't grow the balls required to post on your main XD) ans C&P will have seen another lunatic that "wanted to change EVE forever" Next! I got plenty of reasons as to why i wont give out any of my main`s. That is still final and wont change so yes i guess your out of the picture then. And yet you can't even muster up the courage to say why you won't. I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!

Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY Domestic Disturbance 415	Posted - 2016.12.08 19:50:09 - [111] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: When our numbers of Supporters/Donators reach our different set goals, we start a new phase in our Minerstrike. When the times comes we will. So, what is your set goal? Or are you just going to make a random number up?
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4664	Posted - 2016.12.08 20:02:55 - [112] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: I got plenty of reasons as to why i wont give out any of my main`s. That is still final and wont change so yes i guess your out of the picture then. The reasons being that you're afraid of people knowing who your main is.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 7	Posted - 2016.12.08 20:56:00 - [113] - Quote Solonius Rex wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: When our numbers of Supporters/Donators reach our different set goals, we start a new phase in our Minerstrike. When the times comes we will. So, what is your set goal? Or are you just going to make a random number up? Oh no, we already got goals we want to get to, but revealing those probably only will cause more unnessesary childish posts ( hence why we have not bought that up yet) But I can give something now when question is asked. First goal we aiming for is 200 support mails/ pm's Or 1bil isk total donations Or a combination of them both 100/500. We got all goals set and its just a matter where we will end up.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 7	Posted - 2016.12.08 21:03:16 - [114] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: I got plenty of reasons as to why i wont give out any of my main`s. That is still final and wont change so yes i guess your out of the picture then. The reasons being that you're afraid of people knowing who your main is. My reasons are several, and revealing them might cause problems aswell, and this i dont want. I want the community of eve who share the same feeling against bullying miners to be the names for this action, not me, not our isk. The people shall say " we did this" HSPA End of that discussion
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 13283	Posted - 2016.12.08 21:08:53 - [115] - Quote Baexx wrote: calling out that we are alts and that we cant spell. But we are still dong this because we know that we can. I'll "dong" that for a dollar. Also, are you suggesting that you're going to continue using alts and misspelling words? Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
Revis Owen The Conference Elite CODE. 449	Posted - 2016.12.08 21:09:56 - [116] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: donate to out corp to show that you want this to happen. 1 milj-10milj or whatever I recommend 10M. And give them something to put in their bio to show their support. You know, get creative with this! Agent of the New Order http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html If you do not have a current Mining Permit, please contact me for issuance.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4667	Posted - 2016.12.08 21:19:41 - [117] - Quote So, you're afraid of the repercussions of posting with your main, which is what I said. The only reason anyone ever refuses to post with their main is when they want to hide their identity. Either because they're afraid of retaliation against them, or because they believe that people knowing their identity will lead people to question their motives. Basically you're either a straight up coward or you're actively trying to hide something from people. My assumption would be that you're straight up trying to defraud people for donation money and your main is someone with a questionable background. Whichever turns out to be true you shouldn't be trusted.
Areen Sassel 155	Posted - 2016.12.08 21:25:26 - [118] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: After quite some jokes in this thread lets continue with what we want from the people (since you clearly taking the donation part way to serious) Is there any chance you could stop saying "we"? You aren't fooling anyone, since none of your socks can spell.
Marcus Blackthorn Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2016.12.08 22:22:57 - [119] - Quote "milj" huh? So your Finnish?
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3350	Posted - 2016.12.08 22:40:28 - [120] - Quote Revis Owen wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: donate to out corp to show that you want this to happen. 1 milj-10milj or whatever I recommend 10M. And give them something to put in their bio to show their support. You know, get creative with this! Revolutionary. Why hasn't somebody thought of this before Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin

Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY Domestic Disturbance 417	Posted - 2016.12.08 22:41:26 - [121] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Solonius Rex wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: When our numbers of Supporters/Donators reach our different set goals, we start a new phase in our Minerstrike. When the times comes we will. So, what is your set goal? Or are you just going to make a random number up? Oh no, we already got goals we want to get to, but revealing those probably only will cause more unnessesary childish posts ( hence why we have not bought that up yet) But I can give something now when question is asked. First goal we aiming for is 200 support mails/ pm's Or 1bil isk total donations Or a combination of them both 100/500. We got all goals set and its just a matter where we will end up. Most things like these provide public APIs so that we know funds arent being used for selfish reasons. Are you willing to provide a public API of your corp/chars?
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3350	Posted - 2016.12.08 22:42:52 - [122] - Quote Solonius Rex wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Solonius Rex wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: When our numbers of Supporters/Donators reach our different set goals, we start a new phase in our Minerstrike. When the times comes we will. So, what is your set goal? Or are you just going to make a random number up? Oh no, we already got goals we want to get to, but revealing those probably only will cause more unnessesary childish posts ( hence why we have not bought that up yet) But I can give something now when question is asked. First goal we aiming for is 200 support mails/ pm's Or 1bil isk total donations Or a combination of them both 100/500. We got all goals set and its just a matter where we will end up. Most things like these provide public APIs so that we know funds arent being used for selfish reasons. Are you willing to provide a public API of your corp/chars? Of course not. For 'Reasons' Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4676	Posted - 2016.12.08 23:19:05 - [123] - Quote Of course scamming is fine, but if you want to start up a scam by posting about it in C&P you need to at least pay off the regulars first.
Giaus Felix Hedion University Amarr Empire 269	Posted - 2016.12.08 23:23:24 - [124] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: bullying miners How is it bullying? Is shooting other players in the face in a PvP game bullying? If not, I'll leave you with this thought, Eve IS very much a PvP game. snipe I came for the spaceships, I stayed for the tears.
Leto Thule Everywhere and Terrible 4347	Posted - 2016.12.09 00:00:11 - [125] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: If you want to work with us! in this case, apply to the corp when we start recruiting. We will need people to both helping us help the people with fits/ aswell telling them about this thread and what we are going to do. We will also need fighters to bring the destruction to the fields. You can also tell your friends about this, make plans what you yourselfe will be doing during this event. (Quite alot of people aint dumb and will use this Minerstrike to make alot of isk on the market). You can of caurse also donate to out corp to show that you want this to happen. 1 milj-10milj or whatever you feel is good for you. Obvious scam, Nitshe. Typical reverse safari corp is being setup. Its a fantastic idea, to be honest. Rope the bears in with their expensive mission boats, claiming youll protect them. Even take some donations while your at it. Then... WHAM. /golfclap Unfortunately for you, scamming is illegal in New Order controlled space. Ill add this to the list of charges. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2016.12.09 04:56:31 - [126] - Quote Areen Sassel wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: After quite some jokes in this thread lets continue with what we want from the people (since you clearly taking the donation part way to serious) Is there any chance you could stop saying "we"? You aren't fooling anyone, since none of your socks can spell. The funny things is that you have no idea how many people we actually are, we have been growing everyday. But please, do continue with the trolling about not speaking english as a first language if that rocks your boat. Thread gets bumped, we got contacted more ingame. So i guess we should thank you.
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2016.12.09 05:02:07 - [127] - Quote Phone messed up the edit.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3356	Posted - 2016.12.09 06:30:00 - [128] - Quote Should somebody bust his bubble about the 'kind of traffic' that frequents this forum? Nah nvm... Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat Snuffed Out 3771	Posted - 2016.12.09 09:27:01 - [129] - Quote Baexx wrote: The funny thing is that you have no idea how many people we actually are, we have been growing everyday. But please. says your corp has 2 members, just sayin Alliance Logo Design Service -- Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2016.12.09 09:50:41 - [130] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Baexx wrote: The funny thing is that you have no idea how many people we actually are, we have been growing everyday. But please. says your corp has 2 members, just sayin And yet we are not recruiting anyone. Dont think that is weird? Thanks

Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat Snuffed Out 3771	Posted - 2016.12.09 10:09:38 - [131] - Quote Baexx wrote: Lan Wang wrote: Baexx wrote: The funny thing is that you have no idea how many people we actually are, we have been growing everyday. But please. says your corp has 2 members, just sayin And yet we are not recruiting anyone. Dont think that is weird? Thanks was just saying as you said we have no idea how many people you are, well we do because it says 2 Alliance Logo Design Service -- Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Areen Sassel 157	Posted - 2016.12.09 10:47:05 - [132] - Quote Baexx wrote: Areen Sassel wrote: Is there any chance you could stop saying "we"? You aren't fooling anyone, since none of your socks can spell. The funny thing is that you have no idea how many people we actually are, we have been growing everyday. Well, "we" are too small a group to have even one person in who can spell. That strongly suggests "we" are not, in fact, a vast horde. Quote: But please, do continue with the trolling about not speaking english as a first language if that rocks your boat. Nothing to do with trolling, just some advice. If all your sock puppets post in the same way, you won't fool anyone; and as long as you're not fooling anyone, you might as well drop the "we". Quote: Thread gets bumped, we got contacted more ingame. The lurkers support you in EVEmail?
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.09 14:43:14 - [133] - Quote Areen Sassel wrote: Baexx wrote: Areen Sassel wrote: Is there any chance you could stop saying "we"? You aren't fooling anyone, since none of your socks can spell. The funny thing is that you have no idea how many people we actually are, we have been growing everyday. Well, "we" are too small a group to have even one person in who can spell. That strongly suggests "we" are not, in fact, a vast horde. Quote: But please, do continue with the trolling about not speaking english as a first language if that rocks your boat. Nothing to do with trolling, just some advice. If all your sock puppets post in the same way, you won't fool anyone; and as long as you're not fooling anyone, you might as well drop the "we". Quote: Thread gets bumped, we got contacted more ingame. The lurkers support you in EVEmail? Simple minded people in here. i got the impression that we would reach out to even more people with a forum. Tho we been corrected that its not. Its all fair tho, you claim that many scam in here, but this just makes me wonder. " how many have been here with a honest idea without getting this boring, not relevant questions and trolling. The way i see it is, you guys think everything in eve is bullshit and lies, so naturally you keep looking in every thread for just about anything to pick on. You made that a thing, and you think thats funny i guess. This here is not a scam, and we are still we. You can think your smart and claiming this and that, but reality is far simpler. If you say that we are just one person with many characters due to the writing( oohh.. Myy) you aint good at that **. ** spelling this time( have not Edited anything ) and as baexx said- spell correcting gives bumpes to. I will also give this thread a month or two, untill the real interested and interessting people join up and have questions. For now i guess we just watch the kids spell correcting me for a few hours. MinerStrike is Coming!!
Dom Arkaral Axios 683	Posted - 2016.12.09 15:02:17 - [134] - Quote "Rich" people asking for money donations to support their "never-before-seen" plans are by definition scammers. You don't have either the money, the support nor any sort of plan. You don't have balls, nor do you have proof of any "donations" You don't seem to realize that every frequent C&P reader is either a scammer, a ganker, a merc or a combination of any of those... so we can quite easily tell legit propositions from badly executed scams Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.09 15:24:06 - [135] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: "Rich" people asking for money donations to support their "never-before-seen" plans are by definition scammers. You don't have either the money, the support nor any sort of plan. You don't have balls, nor do you have proof of any "donations" You don't seem to realize that every frequent C&P reader is either a scammer, a ganker, a merc or a combination of any of those... so we can quite easily tell legit propositions from badly executed scams So.. Yea you dont know
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 279	Posted - 2016.12.09 15:37:55 - [136] - Quote Insulting people's intelligence while bragging about all the support you can't prove you have and promising to use all this money you can't prove you have while on your anonymous coward alt is not the way to make friends in Crime and Punishment. I hope you have a plan for wardecs. I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Mobadder Thworst The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent 1062	Posted - 2016.12.09 15:41:07 - [137] - Quote As the leader of this movement, I'm shocked that it is being called a scam. I'm the purveyor of one of the most reputable 3rd party isk holding services in Umokka. I'm keeping a list and I will not be doubling isk for any of you haters!
Dom Arkaral Axios 683	Posted - 2016.12.09 15:41:57 - [138] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: "Rich" people asking for money donations to support their "never-before-seen" plans are by definition scammers. You don't have either the money, the support nor any sort of plan. You don't have balls, nor do you have proof of any "donations" You don't seem to realize that every frequent C&P reader is either a scammer, a ganker, a merc or a combination of any of those... so we can quite easily tell legit propositions from badly executed scams So.. Yea you dont know You can buy my silence for the low cost of 500 billion isk, along with: 3 Veers Corpses 315 Marines 5 Thing 2 Donut Holders 58 Janitors 2016 Female Dancers And an officer-fit Vargur Until then you have no way of succeeding (and even if you do it won't affect me XD) Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Dom Arkaral Axios 683	Posted - 2016.12.09 15:42:49 - [139] - Quote Mobadder Thworst wrote: As the leader of this movement, I'm shocked that it is being called a scam. I'm the purveyor of one of the most reputable 3rd party isk holding services in Umokka. I'm keeping a list and I will not be doubling isk for any of you haters! Wuv you bro <3 Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.09 15:53:44 - [140] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: "Rich" people asking for money donations to support their "never-before-seen" plans are by definition scammers. You don't have either the money, the support nor any sort of plan. You don't have balls, nor do you have proof of any "donations" You don't seem to realize that every frequent C&P reader is either a scammer, a ganker, a merc or a combination of any of those... so we can quite easily tell legit propositions from badly executed scams So.. Yea you dont know You can buy my silence for the low cost of 500 billion isk, along with: 3 Veers Corpses 315 Marines 5 Thing 2 Donut Holders 58 Janitors 2016 Female Dancers And an officer-fit Vargur Until then you have no way of succeeding (and even if you do it won't affect me XD) No need to buy your silence, you are more usefull when you post

Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.09 15:54:37 - [141] - Quote Mobadder Thworst wrote: As the leader of this movement, I'm shocked that it is being called a scam. I'm the purveyor of one of the most reputable 3rd party isk holding services in Umokka. I'm keeping a list and I will not be doubling isk for any of you haters! Not even funny
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat Snuffed Out 3779	Posted - 2016.12.09 16:28:48 - [142] - Quote Mobadder Thworst wrote: As the leader of this movement, I'm shocked that it is being called a scam. I'm the purveyor of one of the most reputable 3rd party isk holding services in Umokka. I'm keeping a list and I will not be doubling isk for any of you haters! not a scam i pledged 20b and have already started to see the difference this is making new eden, i will also be running a donation scheme for the protection of Nourv gate in Tama Alliance Logo Design Service -- Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3365	Posted - 2016.12.10 00:07:26 - [143] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Simple minded people in here. i got the impression that we would reach out to even more people with a forum. Tho we been corrected that its not. Its all fair tho, you claim that many scam in here, but this just makes me wonder. " how many have been here with a honest idea without getting this boring, not relevant questions and trolling. The way i see it is, you guys think everything in eve is bullshit and lies, so naturally you keep looking in every thread for just about anything to pick on. You made that a thing, and you think thats funny i guess. This here is not a scam, and we are still we. You can think your smart and claiming this and that, but reality is far simpler. If you say that we are just one person with many characters due to the writing( oohh.. Myy) you aint good at that **. spelling this time( have not Edited anything ) and as baexx said- spell correcting gives bumpes to. I will also give this thread a month or two, untill the real interested and interessting people join up and have questions. For now i guess we just watch the kids spell correcting me for a few hours. MinerStrike is Coming!! Just a heads up I have posted several non scam 'honest idea' threads in this forums section without getting any of the trolling, scam calling etc. The difference is I A. Posted with my main B. Was very visible about what was being done C. Have a proven/provable track record of doing what I said before I asked for help with it This community provided me with Sizeable donations Support in the form of ALT's Support in the form of Mains Idea improvements Practical advice on ways to achieve my goals Content You are clearly going about doing this the wrong way Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"**station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4689	Posted - 2016.12.10 00:39:45 - [144] - Quote People who aren't scamming aren't afraid of transparency.
Areen Sassel 159	Posted - 2016.12.10 04:24:02 - [145] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: The way i see it is, you guys think everything in eve is bullshit and lies, so naturally you keep looking in every thread for just about anything to pick on. Certainly a lot of stuff is, and when you persist in telling such a giant and obvious whopper in claiming to be a vast and ever-growing group, you're not off to a good start. Quote: MinerStrike is Coming!! Suure. Just like the Republic of Stellar Order, which is just coming up on its two-year anniversary of being on the very brink of doing something any day now.
Mobadder Thworst The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent 1064	Posted - 2016.12.10 04:40:25 - [146] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Mobadder Thworst wrote: As the leader of this movement, I'm shocked that it is being called a scam. I'm the purveyor of one of the most reputable 3rd party isk holding services in Umokka. I'm keeping a list and I will not be doubling isk for any of you haters! Not even funny Rippy, You have been with this movement since the start and your contributions are greatly appreciated. However, your persistently insubordinate attitude, lax communication style, and poor presentation of our values just isn't conducive to where we are going as a cause. As much as it pains me to do this, I am afraid I must terminate you as an associate of this cause. I'm sure you will be a valued member of another cause in short order, but I can no longer keep you on my team in your current role. I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors, Mo
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.10 06:57:45 - [147] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Simple minded people in here. i got the impression that we would reach out to even more people with a forum. Tho we been corrected that its not. Its all fair tho, you claim that many scam in here, but this just makes me wonder. " how many have been here with a honest idea without getting this boring, not relevant questions and trolling. The way i see it is, you guys think everything in eve is bullshit and lies, so naturally you keep looking in every thread for just about anything to pick on. You made that a thing, and you think thats funny i guess. This here is not a scam, and we are still we. You can think your smart and claiming this and that, but reality is far simpler. If you say that we are just one person with many characters due to the writing( oohh.. Myy) you aint good at that **. ** spelling this time( have not Edited anything ) and as baexx said- spell correcting gives bumpes to. I will also give this thread a month or two, untill the real interested and interessting people join up and have questions. For now i guess we just watch the kids spell correcting me for a few hours. MinerStrike is Coming!! Just a heads up I have posted several non scam 'honest idea' threads in this forums section without getting any of the trolling, scam calling etc. The difference is I A. Posted with my main B. Was very visible about what was being done C. Have a proven/provable track record of doing what I said before I asked for help with it This community provided me with Sizeable donations Support in the form of ALT's Support in the form of Mains Idea improvements Practical advice on ways to achieve my goals Content You are clearly going about doing this the wrong way ok thank you, this was accually helpfull ( maby doing something like this and not showing the main is really a bad idea). I dont want my main to be the one who did this MinerStrike, i still want the people to be. I have an issue now..... i must solve it
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.10 06:59:14 - [148] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: People who aren't scamming aren't afraid of transparency. In this matter, its the only way in afraid, and i see its making a problem :).. let me pnder this for a while When baexx said we are growing every day, he ment that our comunity is growing, not the corp.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.10 07:00:42 - [149] - Quote Mobadder Thworst wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Mobadder Thworst wrote: As the leader of this movement, I'm shocked that it is being called a scam. I'm the purveyor of one of the most reputable 3rd party isk holding services in Umokka. I'm keeping a list and I will not be doubling isk for any of you haters! Not even funny Rippy, You have been with this movement since the start and your contributions are greatly appreciated. However, your persistently insubordinate attitude, lax communication style, and poor presentation of our values just isn't conducive to where we are going as a cause. As much as it pains me to do this, I am afraid I must terminate you as an associate of this cause. I'm sure you will be a valued member of another cause in short order, but I can no longer keep you on my team in your current role. I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors. However, you're fired effective immediately. Mo yea good luck with the trolling
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 27132	Posted - 2016.12.10 13:12:28 - [150] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Mobadder Thworst wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Mobadder Thworst wrote: As the leader of this movement, I'm shocked that it is being called a scam. I'm the purveyor of one of the most reputable 3rd party isk holding services in Umokka. I'm keeping a list and I will not be doubling isk for any of you haters! Not even funny Rippy, You have been with this movement since the start and your contributions are greatly appreciated. However, your persistently insubordinate attitude, lax communication style, and poor presentation of our values just isn't conducive to where we are going as a cause. As much as it pains me to do this, I am afraid I must terminate you as an associate of this cause. I'm sure you will be a valued member of another cause in short order, but I can no longer keep you on my team in your current role. I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors. However, you're fired effective immediately. Mo yea good luck with the trolling You have besmirched the good name of Mobadder Thworst without cause or evidence, as such I hereby call the Court Of C&P to order. Civilised behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack

Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.10 14:56:44 - [151] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Mobadder Thworst wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Mobadder Thworst wrote: As the leader of this movement, I'm shocked that it is being called a scam. I'm the purveyor of one of the most reputable 3rd party isk holding services in Umokka. I'm keeping a list and I will not be doubling isk for any of you haters! Not even funny Rippy, You have been with this movement since the start and your contributions are greatly appreciated. However, your persistently insubordinate attitude, lax communication style, and poor presentation of our values just isn't conducive to where we are going as a cause. As much as it pains me to do this, I am afraid I must terminate you as an associate of this cause. I'm sure you will be a valued member of another cause in short order, but I can no longer keep you on my team in your current role. I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors. However, you're fired effective immediately. Mo yea good luck with the trolling You have besmirched the good name of Mobadder Thworst without cause or evidence, as such I hereby call the Court Of C&P to order. You are one of the mob i take it The IQ of a mob is the IQ of its most stupid member divided by the number of mobsters
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 27132	Posted - 2016.12.10 16:20:09 - [152] - Quote Mob? Nope. Laughing at you, yes. The IQ of a mob is the IQ of its most stupid member divided by the number of mobsters New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Mobadder Thworst The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent 1066	Posted - 2016.12.10 16:50:43 - [153] - Quote Public announcement: I would like to apologize to everyone for the antisocial behavior of a disgruntled ex-employee: Rippy Gurista is no longer associated with this organization and should neither accept solicitations nor communicate on our behalf. Our legal team is working on an injunction to be presented to the Court of C&P in the near future. Please do not let this one individual prevent us from saving the miners. Please keep the donations coming. Lan Wangs contribution can get us started, but more will be needed. Let's change New Eden together! Sincerely Yours, Mo
StonerPhReaK Best Kept Frozen. LowSechnaya Sholupen 492	Posted - 2016.12.10 19:59:46 - [154] - Quote Mobadder Thworst wrote: Public announcement: I would like to apologize to everyone for the antisocial behavior of a disgruntled ex-employee: Rippy Gurista is no longer associated with this organization and should neither accept solicitations nor communicate on our behalf. Our legal team is working on an injunction to be presented to the Court of C&P in the near future. Please do not let this one individual prevent us from saving the miners. Please keep the donations coming. Lan Wangs contribution can get us started, but more will be needed. Let's change New Eden together! Sincerely Yours, Mo I hadn't known you wer heading this operation Mo. Forgive my ignorance and accept my donation to this cause. Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Mobadder Thworst The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent 1072	Posted - 2016.12.10 22:11:42 - [155] - Quote StonerPhReaK wrote: Mobadder Thworst wrote: Public announcement: I would like to apologize to everyone for the antisocial behavior of a disgruntled ex-employee: Rippy Gurista is no longer associated with this organization and should neither accept solicitations nor communicate on our behalf. Our legal team is working on an injunction to be presented to the Court of C&P in the near future. Please do not let this one individual prevent us from saving the miners. Please keep the donations coming. Lan Wangs contribution can get us started, but more will be needed. Let's change New Eden together! Sincerely Yours, Mo I hadn't known you wer heading this operation Mo. Forgive my ignorance and accept my donation to this cause. Thank you Stoner. You truly have a heart of gold. Your donation will keep alive a miner who would otherwise be ganked and laughed at. As we move forward, we hope to be able to send our donors photos of the miners they saved. Each of us can adopt our very own miners! With a scant few dozen donors as generous as you, we can easily save miners. With a few hundred, we may be able to save pandas and end world hunger. This is only possible with your continued support.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 27135	Posted - 2016.12.10 22:21:59 - [156] - Quote Mobadder Thworst wrote: As we move forward, we hope to be able to send our donors photos of the miners they saved. Each of us can adopt our very own miners! Is there a tinder-like app for that? I wouldn't want to accidentally adopt a filthy hoodie wearing Amarr miner. The IQ of a mob is the IQ of its most stupid member divided by the number of mobsters New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 3149	Posted - 2016.12.11 13:36:12 - [157] - Quote What's most important, what is the timeline of this event? When will you start buying the minerals? ... just to make sure there is enough stock for you to buy. I'm my own NPC alt.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.11 15:28:56 - [158] - Quote Tipa Riot wrote: What's most important, what is the timeline of this event? When will you start buying the minerals? ... just to make sure there is enough stock for you to buy. Yea atm we have not decided when, but since the mineral prices drops, there is no real rush now. But we generally wanna do that asap the minerals starts going up, but we also dont wanna do this without a large amount of people are watching and (taking advantage of it). So yea a few more mail with ( support texts or Changed bios to MinerStrike is Coming!!) or donations to our corp for the defence fleet/ and the reimbursment plans for miners, will make us do this earlier. We want a sick amount of minerals being bought up,( The more minerals we can get out hands on the better for New Eden) so we would advise you to be ready and put out as much as you can when we set the date.
Morlevic Jade Jade Heavy Industries 0	Posted - 2016.12.11 17:54:33 - [159] - Quote When I questioned Rippy about how he intended to fund his plan to buy all the minerals in Amarr, I got the following reply, which I found amusing. Quote: [17:27:02] Rippy Gurista > i got 5 618 408 151 720.00 and im not sure what Baexx got exactly, but he got abit more i think. Thats going to be enugh to buy the minerals in jita and amarr for 2-3 weeks. So 5.6t ISK and he cares about the little guy. This ISK was, of course, made on one of Rippy's 4 main toons.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.11 18:02:02 - [160] - Quote Morlevic Jade wrote: When I questioned Rippy about how he intended to fund his plan to buy all the minerals in Amarr, I got the following reply, which I found amusing. Quote: [17:27:02] Rippy Gurista > i got 5 618 408 151 720.00 and im not sure what Baexx got exactly, but he got abit more i think. Thats going to be enugh to buy the minerals in jita and amarr for 2-3 weeks. So 5.6t ISK and he cares about the little guy. This ISK was, of course, made on one of Rippy's 4 main toons. correction made buy accually 3 of them.

Galaxy Duck Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing 243	Posted - 2016.12.11 20:48:50 - [161] - Quote Mo, as you are clearly the only legitimate propriator of this movement, please accept my pledge of 10bil.
Mobadder Thworst The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent 1079	Posted - 2016.12.11 21:01:29 - [162] - Quote Galaxy Duck wrote: Mo, as you are clearly the only legitimate propriator of this movement, please accept my pledge of 10bil. Thank you GalaxyDuck. I will be posting a picture of the miner you saved when time allows. This brings our donation drive to Eleventy batrillion and one isk, which is a much larger number than anyone else on this thread has posted. We have decided that instead of buying all the materials, it will be easier to buy and reprocess the systems of "Amarr" and "Jita". Save the miners, Mo
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2016.12.11 21:51:05 - [163] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Morlevic Jade wrote: When I questioned Rippy about how he intended to fund his plan to buy all the minerals in Amarr, I got the following reply, which I found amusing. Quote: [17:27:02] Rippy Gurista > i got 5 618 408 151 720.00 and im not sure what Baexx got exactly, but he got abit more i think. Thats going to be enugh to buy the minerals in jita and amarr for 2-3 weeks. So 5.6t ISK and he cares about the little guy. This ISK was, of course, made on one of Rippy's 4 main toons. correction made buy accually 3 of them. Lets not get into details here, lets just say that we can sustain this for a few weeks.
Morgorathi Unironically Bad 20	Posted - 2016.12.12 06:05:25 - [164] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: :werds: I feel like this is a con to get money from industrialists. In the case that you are not conning them? You will help raise prices on goods that the industrialists are selling. Giving the opportunity for unscrupulous vendors to price gouge unwary customers. Not that your strike will work. When did Crime & Punishment become the mercenary employment board?
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.12 14:03:39 - [165] - Quote It will work cause if people dont wanna be a part of if we will do it anyways, but then people wont get a head start and make isk. We wont say when we buy up the minerals and without donations we wont give free ships to donators who lost theirs. Our vision is a mix of several ways to fight back and in the process make miners get more value from mining. If the people dont want the help or be a part of it, we wont force them. But the Minerstrike will happen no matter what. HSPA We make it happen!!
Morgorathi Unironically Bad 20	Posted - 2016.12.12 18:52:18 - [166] - Quote Well at least give me some of your millions before you **** all of it away. When did Crime & Punishment become the mercenary employment board?
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.12 19:25:32 - [167] - Quote Morgorathi wrote: Well at least give me some of your millions before you **** all of it away. Well its up to you. Mail us that you think our Minerstrike will be cool and that you support it. Thats it. If you also want to help miners with ships and support our pvp fleets to defend from suicide corps then you can donate something you can afford in isk to us. And we will have you on our list.
Sol epoch HELVEGEN Jetpack Viking 387	Posted - 2016.12.12 20:53:02 - [168] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: [quote=Morgorathi]Well at least give me some of your millions before you **** all of it away. Well its up to you. Mail us that you think our Minerstrike will be cool and that you support it. Thats it. If you also want to help miners with ships and support our pvp fleets to defend from suicide corps then you can donate something you can afford in isk to us. And we will have you on our list. [/quot Ahh! The old give me isk and you're on the list scam.
SiRuS T HELVEGEN Jetpack Viking 28	Posted - 2016.12.12 21:21:16 - [169] - Quote Sol epoch wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: [quote=Morgorathi]Well at least give me some of your millions before you **** all of it away. Well its up to you. Mail us that you think our Minerstrike will be cool and that you support it. Thats it. If you also want to help miners with ships and support our pvp fleets to defend from suicide corps then you can donate something you can afford in isk to us. And we will have you on our list. [/quot Ahh! The old give me isk and you're on the list scam. Bad quotes. Learn to use the forum first then give me your ISK
jack1974 Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 161	Posted - 2016.12.13 02:18:55 - [170] - Quote Morlevic Jade wrote: When I questioned Rippy about how he intended to fund his plan to buy all the minerals in Amarr, I got the following reply, which I found amusing. Quote: [17:27:02] Rippy Gurista > i got 5 618 408 151 720.00 and im not sure what Baexx got exactly, but he got abit more i think. Thats going to be enugh to buy the minerals in jita and amarr for 2-3 weeks. So 5.6t ISK and he cares about the little guy. This ISK was, of course, made on one of Rippy's 4 main toons. What a good investment to buy all of the minerals when the price is about to be cut in half due to the rorqual armies. Just reduced your net worth by half in a week.

Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.13 05:46:15 - [171] - Quote jack1974 wrote: Morlevic Jade wrote: When I questioned Rippy about how he intended to fund his plan to buy all the minerals in Amarr, I got the following reply, which I found amusing. Quote: [17:27:02] Rippy Gurista > i got 5 618 408 151 720.00 and im not sure what Baexx got exactly, but he got abit more i think. Thats going to be enugh to buy the minerals in jita and amarr for 2-3 weeks. So 5.6t ISK and he cares about the little guy. This ISK was, of course, made on one of Rippy's 4 main toons. What a good investment to buy all of the minerals when the price is about to be cut in half due to the rorqual armies. Just reduced your net worth by half in a week. Hehe nope that wont happen.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3283	Posted - 2016.12.13 06:45:14 - [172] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Our vision is a mix of several ways to fight back and in the process make miners get more value from mining. If the people dont want the help or be a part of it, we wont force them. But the Minerstrike will happen no matter what. Wait? It did not start yet? But I already started to kill of the strikebreakers the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 2564	Posted - 2016.12.13 07:12:43 - [173] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Our vision is a mix of several ways to fight back and in the process make miners get more value from mining. If the people dont want the help or be a part of it, we wont force them. But the Minerstrike will happen no matter what. Wait? It did not start yet? But I already started to kill of the strikebreakers I am mining at the moment, no sign of you!!! When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour. Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3283	Posted - 2016.12.13 07:36:10 - [174] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: I am mining at the moment, no sign of you!!! It is ok if you follow the Code. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.13 08:26:35 - [175] - Quote We are very happy to see the support we got already. Its been abit slower but generally the mails are very positive. Right now we are focusing in finding people who already been victims to suicides. So far they greet us and hoping for the best. Supporters now are over 80, and donators are just above 30. Very nice and we hope to get quite alot more mails during this week. HSPA
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 2564	Posted - 2016.12.13 09:47:13 - [176] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Dracvlad wrote: I am mining at the moment, no sign of you!!! It is ok if you follow the Code. Well I don't accept that you have any authority in hisec so can I expect a visit at some point? When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour. Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian
Dom Arkaral Axios 689	Posted - 2016.12.13 10:33:03 - [177] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: jack1974 wrote: Morlevic Jade wrote: When I questioned Rippy about how he intended to fund his plan to buy all the minerals in Amarr, I got the following reply, which I found amusing. Quote: [17:27:02] Rippy Gurista > i got 5 618 408 151 720.00 and im not sure what Baexx got exactly, but he got abit more i think. Thats going to be enugh to buy the minerals in jita and amarr for 2-3 weeks. So 5.6t ISK and he cares about the little guy. This ISK was, of course, made on one of Rippy's 4 main toons. What a good investment to buy all of the minerals when the price is about to be cut in half due to the rorqual armies. Just reduced your net worth by half in a week. Hehe nope that wont happen. Smell that boys? That's the smell of "rich" guy being scared that his "super-duper-plan" will go to hell Poor thing Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.13 10:58:26 - [178] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: jack1974 wrote: Morlevic Jade wrote: When I questioned Rippy about how he intended to fund his plan to buy all the minerals in Amarr, I got the following reply, which I found amusing. Quote: [17:27:02] Rippy Gurista > i got 5 618 408 151 720.00 and im not sure what Baexx got exactly, but he got abit more i think. Thats going to be enugh to buy the minerals in jita and amarr for 2-3 weeks. So 5.6t ISK and he cares about the little guy. This ISK was, of course, made on one of Rippy's 4 main toons. What a good investment to buy all of the minerals when the price is about to be cut in half due to the rorqual armies. Just reduced your net worth by half in a week. Hehe nope that wont happen. Smell that boys? That's the smell of "rich" guy being scared that his "super-duper-plan" will go to hell Poor thing Hahahahahaha your funny, and could not be more wrong. I know the market, and i know what im doing.
Dom Arkaral Axios 689	Posted - 2016.12.13 13:10:29 - [179] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Hahahahahaha your funny, and could not be more wrong. I know the market, and i know what im doing. You do realize that every prices are based on said ores right? If said ore prices go up, so will everything else XD Not one miner will end up richer since they're gonna have to pay more to replace their poor ganked ships XD I'm also pretty sure there's many people ready to flood the market when you try to sell everything back at a higher price, so in the end, everyone but you and miners win :D You might as well buy all plex instead XD Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.13 13:59:52 - [180] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Hahahahahaha your funny, and could not be more wrong. I know the market, and i know what im doing. You do realize that every prices are based on said ores right? If said ore prices go up, so will everything else XD Not one miner will end up richer since they're gonna have to pay more to replace their poor ganked ships XD I'm also pretty sure there's many people ready to flood the market when you try to sell everything back at a higher price, so in the end, everyone but you and miners win :D You might as well buy all plex instead XD Ofc Tho you missing the point. We will replace their ships. So no it will not be bad at all, also process will go up so they make more isk on mining. When we sell back yes... Untill then it will remain high Already in plex market... 0.o

Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3288	Posted - 2016.12.13 20:50:58 - [181] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: Notice me, I am mining and need a hug You are such a rebel! the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 2568	Posted - 2016.12.14 07:41:55 - [182] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Dracvlad wrote: Notice me, I am mining and need a hug You are such a rebel! But I seem to be mining in complete safety, I need some content and fast!!!!! When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour. Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.14 10:57:22 - [183] - Quote And another day, another news We just passed 100 supporters!!! With that being said, we now are at phase 2. Ty all
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat Snuffed Out 3812	Posted - 2016.12.14 13:10:29 - [184] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: And another day, another news We just passed 100 supporters!!! With that being said, we now are at phase 2. Ty all what is phase 2???? what was phase 1 again, i forget Alliance Logo Design Service -- Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Morlevic Jade Jade Heavy Industries 0	Posted - 2016.12.15 01:44:46 - [185] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: jack1974 wrote: Morlevic Jade wrote: When I questioned Rippy about how he intended to fund his plan to buy all the minerals in Amarr, I got the following reply, which I found amusing. Quote: [17:27:02] Rippy Gurista > i got 5 618 408 151 720.00 and im not sure what Baexx got exactly, but he got abit more i think. Thats going to be enugh to buy the minerals in jita and amarr for 2-3 weeks. So 5.6t ISK and he cares about the little guy. This ISK was, of course, made on one of Rippy's 4 main toons. What a good investment to buy all of the minerals when the price is about to be cut in half due to the rorqual armies. Just reduced your net worth by half in a week. Hehe nope that wont happen. Smell that boys? That's the smell of "rich" guy being scared that his "super-duper-plan" will go to hell Poor thing Forgot about the plan, neither of these newbies has 5 billion ISK, let alone 5 trillion.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.15 08:38:36 - [186] - Quote Do you even play eve.
Sequester Risalo Semiki Minerals and Missiles Company Ltd. 257	Posted - 2016.12.15 08:51:09 - [187] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: what is phase 2???? what was phase 1 again, i forget I know you did not forget and can also read the OP. Phase 2 is collecting money to further the resistance efforts.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.15 09:26:08 - [188] - Quote Sequester Risalo wrote: Lan Wang wrote: what is phase 2???? what was phase 1 again, i forget I know you did not forget and can also read the OP. Phase 2 is collecting money to further the resistance efforts. Ty Sequester
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3398	Posted - 2016.12.15 10:14:28 - [189] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Do you even play eve. Do you? Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Dom Arkaral Axios 689	Posted - 2016.12.15 13:02:40 - [190] - Quote Sequester Risalo wrote: Lan Wang wrote: what is phase 2???? what was phase 1 again, i forget I know you did not forget and can also read the OP. Phase 2 is collecting money to further the resistance efforts. Because you clearly don't have trillions lmao Post an api of Rippy and Baexx so we can see how poor you plebs are XD Let's see if you can put money where your mouth is Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111

Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.15 13:36:54 - [191] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Sequester Risalo wrote: Lan Wang wrote: what is phase 2???? what was phase 1 again, i forget I know you did not forget and can also read the OP. Phase 2 is collecting money to further the resistance efforts. Because you clearly don't have trillions lmao Post an api of Rippy and Baexx so we can see how poor you plebs are XD Let's see if you can put money where your mouth is There is no reason to do any of that cause you dont believe us whatever we say, so we already know you wont be a part of this. We do however have the isk we say, and if its hard to understand that veterans in eve ( over 9 years) dont have isk,,, you really suck at making isk.( i bet you got about 15 bil and think thats alot ) hum well thats your issue.
Dom Arkaral Axios 689	Posted - 2016.12.15 13:47:17 - [192] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Sequester Risalo wrote: Lan Wang wrote: what is phase 2???? what was phase 1 again, i forget I know you did not forget and can also read the OP. Phase 2 is collecting money to further the resistance efforts. Because you clearly don't have trillions lmao Post an api of Rippy and Baexx so we can see how poor you plebs are XD Let's see if you can put money where your mouth is There is no reason to do any of that cause you dont believe us whatever we say, so we already know you wont be a part of this. We do however have the isk we say, and if its hard to understand that veterans in eve ( over 9 years) dont have isk,,, you really suck at making isk.( i bet you got about 15 bil and think thats alot ) hum well thats your issue. You think I care having 163b isk or 0 isk? I couldn't care less lmao Pretty I'm still having about a trillion times more fun than you trying to bait people into giving you isk because you're a trillion aire that needs more isk for x, y and z XD You came to the wrong neighborhood if you thought you could succeed in milking isk out of us Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Mobadder Thworst The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent 1088	Posted - 2016.12.15 14:07:37 - [193] - Quote I have decided to resign at the leader of this movement. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. I am resigning because: 1) This movement sucks. 2) Rippy won't go away even though I fired him. 3) I never liked miners anyways. 4) I think this thread is completely out of content. I'm still pissed that none of the major merc corps were willing to stop mining. I will be accepting donations on Rippy's behalf in the interim until a long-term replacement is named. I will be searching for a position in a less dried-up thread, Thank you, Mo
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.15 14:26:11 - [194] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Sequester Risalo wrote: Lan Wang wrote: what is phase 2???? what was phase 1 again, i forget I know you did not forget and can also read the OP. Phase 2 is collecting money to further the resistance efforts. Because you clearly don't have trillions lmao Post an api of Rippy and Baexx so we can see how poor you plebs are XD Let's see if you can put money where your mouth is There is no reason to do any of that cause you dont believe us whatever we say, so we already know you wont be a part of this. We do however have the isk we say, and if its hard to understand that veterans in eve ( over 9 years) dont have isk,,, you really suck at making isk.( i bet you got about 15 bil and think thats alot ) hum well thats your issue. You think I care having 163b isk or 0 isk? I couldn't care less lmao Pretty I'm still having about a trillion times more fun than you trying to bait people into giving you isk because you're a trillion aire that needs more isk for x, y and z XD You came to the wrong neighborhood if you thought you could succeed in milking isk out of us Your only wrong on every thing you said...( claiming you have more fun than me, when you dont know me, only prover you only type without thinking.. So everything you say from now on is just bull.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.15 14:27:29 - [195] - Quote Mobadder Thworst wrote: I have decided to resign at the leader of this movement. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. I am resigning because: 1) This movement sucks. 2) Rippy won't go away even though I fired him. 3) I never liked miners anyways. 4) I think this thread is completely out of content. I'm still pissed that none of the major merc corps were willing to stop mining. I will be accepting donations on Rippy's behalf in the interim until a long-term replacement is named. I will be searching for a position in a less dried-up thread, Thank you, Mo Yea yea. Make up your own thing, or do you always turn up on every forum and pretend you are part of something?
Dom Arkaral Axios 689	Posted - 2016.12.15 15:16:58 - [196] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Your only wrong on every thing you said...( claiming you have more fun than me, when you dont know me, only prover you only type without thinking.. So everything you say from now on is just bull. Aww did I hit a nerve? Lol Such defensive talk from you only means I and the other dudes who called this a scam are absolutely right ;) It's always a pleasure to shut these aawfully organized threads down XD Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2016.12.15 15:24:54 - [197] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Sequester Risalo wrote: Lan Wang wrote: what is phase 2???? what was phase 1 again, i forget I know you did not forget and can also read the OP. Phase 2 is collecting money to further the resistance efforts. Because you clearly don't have trillions lmao Post an api of Rippy and Baexx so we can see how poor you plebs are XD Let's see if you can put money where your mouth is Plebs? What are you, 12 years old? We dont have to prove any assets to a guy like you.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.15 16:20:16 - [198] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Your only wrong on every thing you said...( claiming you have more fun than me, when you dont know me, only prover you only type without thinking.. So everything you say from now on is just bull. Aww did I hit a nerve? Lol Such defensive talk from you only means I and the other dudes who called this a scam are absolutely right ;) It's always a pleasure to shut these aawfully organized threads down XD What are you taking about? are you 10 years old or why do you keep saying stuff that has no meaning?..
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.15 16:21:24 - [199] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Your only wrong on every thing you said...( claiming you have more fun than me, when you dont know me, only prover you only type without thinking.. So everything you say from now on is just bull. Aww did I hit a nerve? Lol Such defensive talk from you only means I and the other dudes who called this a scam are absolutely right ;) It's always a pleasure to shut these aawfully organized threads down XD What are you taking about? are you 10 years old or why do you keep saying stuff that has no meaning?.. Lol hi baexx... Didnt see your post untill now... We both asked hes age ... Lol
Dom Arkaral Axios 689	Posted - 2016.12.15 16:28:44 - [200] - Quote Ooohh the 10 year old insults XD How cute Ripaexx You got a long way to go when it comes to trying to insult ;) Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111

Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.15 16:48:25 - [201] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Ooohh the 10 year old insults XD How cute Ripaexx You got a long way to go when it comes to trying to insult ;) It was just curious... Did you feel insulted... Im sry but i really questioned your age... So are you 13-14 then?
Paranoid Loyd 9954	Posted - 2016.12.15 16:53:23 - [202] - Quote I'm disappointed in you OP, our job is to devolve your thread into what it has become, your job is to not let it become that. OP fail, RTB "There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix Fix the Prospect!
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.15 17:18:26 - [203] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: I'm disappointed in you OP, our job is to devolve your thread into what it has become, your job is to not let it become that. OP fail, RTB You are so true, tho it has been like this for a while now so i hade to ask hes age, cause it was getting ridiculous.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 27160	Posted - 2016.12.15 18:47:44 - [204] - Quote A quick summary of the OP's plan for those that don't want to be blinded by bullshit. 1. Step one 2. Step two 3. ???? 4. PROFIT!!! The IQ of a mob is the IQ of its most stupid member divided by the number of mobsters New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Dom Arkaral Axios 689	Posted - 2016.12.15 18:50:10 - [205] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: A quick summary of the OP's plan for those that don't want to be blinded by bullshit. 1. Step one 2. Step two 3. ???? 4. PROFIT!!! You forgot step 2.1 Ask people's ages ;) Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3405	Posted - 2016.12.15 21:27:54 - [206] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Paranoid Loyd wrote: I'm disappointed in you OP, our job is to devolve your thread into what it has become, your job is to not let it become that. OP fail, RTB You are so true, tho it has been like this for a while now so i hade to ask hes age, cause it was getting ridiculous. I really did try to give you a method to succeed here if you were legit. You didn't take on any recommendations this is why it has devolved. Next time put more work into your scam (or legit) thread. Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 286	Posted - 2016.12.15 21:49:59 - [207] - Quote I still want to know how you're going to make miners earn a higher real wage when you cause inflation by artificially increasing the prices of minerals. If you make twice as much money but everything costs twice as much, you're not any richer. In fact, those miners you claim to champion will be worse off because you'll devalue all the ISK they've saved. I'd still like to see some proof you are who you say you are, because you won't get much support from behind an alt. If you still insist on hiding your face, have Chribba review your API keys and post in this thread that you're legit. I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Sol epoch HELVEGEN Jetpack Viking 388	Posted - 2016.12.15 23:58:04 - [208] - Quote I refer you all to my previous 2 posts on this thread.
Morlevic Jade Jade Heavy Industries 1	Posted - 2016.12.16 00:20:23 - [209] - Quote Dark Lord Trump wrote: I'd still like to see some proof you are who you say you are, because you won't get much support from behind an alt. I was thinking along these lines also. The open support of any organization capable of amassing 5.6 trillion ISK would lend instant credibility to this cause. The lack of supporting evidence of backing speaks far louder than the claim of backing. Such an organization would act unilaterally. Nothing short of another well funded organization could hope to oppose it. Such an organization would not be wasting time with donations that were not in the hundreds of billions range. Such an organization would have more thoughtful plans than a couple fittings and the same old advice. Such an organization would have a deeper understanding EVE and the economics involved.
Mobadder Thworst The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent 1091	Posted - 2016.12.16 02:48:31 - [210] - Quote Call me a purist, but I've never been much for buying plex. Maybe it's because it wasn't really necessary for all that frigate combat. But I think a plex is/was about $15 for a billion isk. So that would mean to get 5.6 trillion isk, you would need to spend about $84,000 on plex. I would guess Rippy joined about Black Friday, did they have a plex sale?

Meilandra Vanderganken Aliastra Gallente Federation 258	Posted - 2016.12.16 19:52:10 - [211] - Quote My god..... Not this 'Miners should go on strike!11!!1'-shite again.....
Moon Moon Burdy Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 226	Posted - 2016.12.16 22:27:11 - [212] - Quote Mobadder Thworst wrote: I have decided to resign at the leader of this movement. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. I am resigning because: 1) This movement sucks. 2) Rippy won't go away even though I fired him. 3) I never liked miners anyways. 4) I think this thread is completely out of content. I'm still pissed that none of the major merc corps were willing to stop mining. I will be accepting donations on Rippy's behalf in the interim until a long-term replacement is named. I will be searching for a position in a less dried-up thread, Thank you, Mo I support your decision completely, Mobadder. Sorry for the late notice, but I've been too busy not-mining to let you know that I support this and any other not-mining endeavors in good faith. Always have. Rocks can't shoot back. :( Things that went boom Storytime with Moon Moon New stories semi frequently-ish! Promising Young Murderer, Education Appreciated.
Mobadder Thworst The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent 1095	Posted - 2016.12.17 01:18:32 - [213] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Mobadder Thworst wrote: I have decided to resign at the leader of this movement. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. I am resigning because: 1) This movement sucks. 2) Rippy won't go away even though I fired him. 3) I never liked miners anyways. 4) I think this thread is completely out of content. I'm still pissed that none of the major merc corps were willing to stop mining. I will be accepting donations on Rippy's behalf in the interim until a long-term replacement is named. I will be searching for a position in a less dried-up thread, Thank you, Mo Yea yea. Make up your own thing, or do you always turn up on every forum and pretend you are part of something? With an attitude like that, it's no wonder this movement can't retain any good talent.
Areen Sassel 164	Posted - 2016.12.17 01:36:36 - [214] - Quote Meilandra Vanderganken wrote: My god..... Not this 'Miners should go on strike!11!!1'-shite again..... Ah, now it is coupled with the plan to buy all the minerals in Jita, thus encouraging miners to strike by raising the price of minerals... no, wait...
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3410	Posted - 2016.12.17 01:39:57 - [215] - Quote Areen Sassel wrote: Meilandra Vanderganken wrote: My god..... Not this 'Miners should go on strike!11!!1'-shite again..... Ah, now it is coupled with the plan to buy all the minerals in Jita, thus encouraging miners to strike by raising the price of minerals... no, wait... yup... Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Morgan Agrivar Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 709	Posted - 2016.12.17 03:55:36 - [216] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: A quick summary of the OP's plan for those that don't want to be blinded by bullshit. 1. Step one 2. Step two 3. ???? 4. PROFIT!!! You forgot step 2.1 Ask people's ages ;) A/S/L? Disclaimer: If you know what this is, congratulations...you are old.
Morgan Agrivar Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 709	Posted - 2016.12.17 03:59:56 - [217] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Sequester Risalo wrote: Lan Wang wrote: what is phase 2???? what was phase 1 again, i forget I know you did not forget and can also read the OP. Phase 2 is collecting money to further the resistance efforts. Because you clearly don't have trillions lmao Post an api of Rippy and Baexx so we can see how poor you plebs are XD Let's see if you can put money where your mouth is There is no reason to do any of that cause you dont believe us whatever we say, so we already know you wont be a part of this. We do however have the isk we say, and if its hard to understand that veterans in eve ( over 9 years) dont have isk,,, you really suck at making isk.( i bet you got about 15 bil and think thats alot ) hum well thats your issue. Wait...15b isn't a lot? Well, fuuuuuu.....nevermind.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.18 10:09:49 - [218] - Quote We wanna again thank every supporters so far. And i wanna personally thank Nitshe Razvedka for that mail we got. We still see some supporters both in pm and mails even tho its near christmas. Happy hollidays and we understand there will be less activity for a while now.
Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 189	Posted - 2016.12.18 10:29:11 - [219] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: We wanna again thank every supporters so far. And i wanna personally thank Nitshe Razvedka for that mail we got. We still see some supporters both in pm and mails even tho its near christmas. Happy hollidays and we understand there will be less activity for a while now. What - less activity than zero? Impossible!
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3414	Posted - 2016.12.18 12:31:21 - [220] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: We wanna again thank every supporters so far. And i wanna personally thank 'Nitshe' HAHAHAHAHA Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 190	Posted - 2016.12.18 12:57:59 - [221] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: We wanna again thank every supporters so far. And i wanna personally thank 'Nitshe' HAHAHAHAHA Now we know it's fake news....
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 1290	Posted - 2016.12.18 13:34:59 - [222] - Quote Maybe I'll start mining again in Phase 4. Remove standings and insurance.
Mobadder Thworst The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent 1098	Posted - 2016.12.18 14:54:45 - [223] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: We wanna again thank every supporters so far. And i wanna personally thank Nitshe Razvedka for that mail we got. We still see some supporters both in pm and mails even tho its near christmas. Happy hollidays and we understand there will be less activity for a while now. Does "less activity" concerning a strike mean less mining, or less abstaining from mining. I feel like anything that happens can be termed "less activity".
StonerPhReaK Best Kept Frozen. Escalating Entropy 503	Posted - 2016.12.18 15:27:33 - [224] - Quote Finally the elephant in the pocket decloaks. The smell of nitshe was all over this thread and i would have detected it sooner had my Nitshe-dar gotten back from the shop in a timely fashion. Turns out the smell of nitshe is like CO2. You only notice it when its to late to do anything about it. A couple clues would have been the spelling and imagination issues these two have had the last 11 pages. The delusions of grandeur wer just to big, almost on the verge of hallucination enducing psychosis according to a few miners i overheard talking of this 'movement'. They are receiving treatment now and are expected to make a full recovery. The OP and his alts however will not make it. You just cant come back from such exposure. I suggest everyone who has posted in this thread get your annual nitshescolia booster shot. Also get your cat neutered. Contact forcefield for life. /me crosses fingers and prays to bob to have no mercy on the soles of there shoes. Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3417	Posted - 2016.12.18 17:34:52 - [225] - Quote I feel bad for the OP so I will provide a LINK on why that was the worst thing to say But just so you know this thread has just been Law 3'd Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Dom Arkaral Axios 694	Posted - 2016.12.18 18:20:37 - [226] - Quote Morgan Agrivar wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: A quick summary of the OP's plan for those that don't want to be blinded by bullshit. 1. Step one 2. Step two 3. ???? 4. PROFIT!!! You forgot step 2.1 Ask people's ages ;) A/S/L? Disclaimer: If you know what this is, congratulations...you are old. lol the memories XD Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 8	Posted - 2016.12.19 04:23:07 - [227] - Quote StonerPhReaK wrote: Finally the elephant in the pocket decloaks. The smell of nitshe was all over this thread and i would have detected it sooner had my Nitshe-dar gotten back from the shop in a timely fashion. Turns out the smell of nitshe is like CO2. You only notice it when its to late to do anything about it. A couple clues would have been the spelling and imagination issues these two have had the last 11 pages. The delusions of grandeur wer just to big, almost on the verge of hallucination enducing psychosis according to a few miners i overheard talking of this 'movement'. They are receiving treatment now and are expected to make a full recovery. The OP and his alts however will not make it. You just cant come back from such exposure. I suggest everyone who has posted in this thread get your annual nitshescolia booster shot. Also get your cat neutered. Contact forcefield for life. /me crosses fingers and prays to bob to have no mercy on the soles of there shoes. I take it you know nitshe. Still dont know what you all mean with the outbreak you guys just hade. Is it an old enemy?. Its fascinating how a mail to us from someone makes you guys think in the weirdest way.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3423	Posted - 2016.12.19 07:03:34 - [228] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: StonerPhReaK wrote: Finally the elephant in the pocket decloaks. The smell of nitshe was all over this thread and i would have detected it sooner had my Nitshe-dar gotten back from the shop in a timely fashion. Turns out the smell of nitshe is like CO2. You only notice it when its to late to do anything about it. A couple clues would have been the spelling and imagination issues these two have had the last 11 pages. The delusions of grandeur wer just to big, almost on the verge of hallucination enducing psychosis according to a few miners i overheard talking of this 'movement'. They are receiving treatment now and are expected to make a full recovery. The OP and his alts however will not make it. You just cant come back from such exposure. I suggest everyone who has posted in this thread get your annual nitshescolia booster shot. Also get your cat neutered. Contact forcefield for life. /me crosses fingers and prays to bob to have no mercy on the soles of there shoes. I take it you know nitshe. Still dont know what you all mean with the outbreak you guys just hade. Is it an old enemy?. Its fascinating how a mail to us from someone makes you guys think in the weirdest way. Read the link 2 posts up. You just got trolled Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Danks Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds 147	Posted - 2016.12.19 21:16:38 - [229] - Quote It amuses me to no end that I stop looking at these forums for two years and when I come back it's the exact same thread with a different title. Also, I can post without an active account? Neat.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 27173	Posted - 2016.12.19 22:53:53 - [230] - Quote Danks wrote: It amuses me to no end that I stop looking at these forums for two years and when I come back it's the exact same thread with a different title. Also, I can post without an active account? Neat. Heh you should see F&I Welcome back. In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack

Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3354	Posted - 2016.12.31 01:07:12 - [231] - Quote How is the strike going? the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Dom Arkaral Axios 711	Posted - 2016.12.31 02:08:06 - [232] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: How is the strike going? it looks promising AF /s who knew nothing would happen? Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Mobadder Thworst Chelyabinsk 1163	Posted - 2016.12.31 05:33:10 - [233] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: How is the strike going? I'm still all-in. I ain't mined nothing. Is Jita collapsing yet?
Capt Starfox Amok. Goonswarm Federation 926	Posted - 2017.01.05 11:07:30 - [234] - Quote Hello space friends! So what have I missed? Another corp/alliance wanting to help the miners? James 315 is the only one miners should go to for help just IMO HTH. *Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet*
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 2683	Posted - 2017.01.05 12:21:52 - [235] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: How is the strike going? Very well, I am mining at the moment and no CODE have come to tell me off or start singing love songs to James315. When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour. Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3397	Posted - 2017.01.05 13:27:28 - [236] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: How is the strike going? Very well, I am mining at the moment and no CODE have come to tell me off or start singing love songs to James315. You should really get a dog or something. He will give you the attention you need. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3397	Posted - 2017.01.05 13:30:31 - [237] - Quote Capt Starfox wrote: Hello space friends! So what have I missed? Another corp/alliance wanting to help the miners? James 315 is the only one miners should go to for help just IMO HTH. Welcome back Agent! Long time not seen. You didn't miss a lot, the miners are as salty as ever. AG is still failing all the time, continuously without a break, daily. And obviously we are winning as always. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 2683	Posted - 2017.01.05 15:01:25 - [238] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Dracvlad wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: How is the strike going? Very well, I am mining at the moment and no CODE have come to tell me off or start singing love songs to James315. You should really get a dog or something. He will give you the attention you need. What? You are not on strike, maybe it is just the Kusions then... PS Woof woof, here have a bone to gnaw on... When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour. Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato
Jenn aSide Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore 15050	Posted - 2017.01.05 15:29:58 - [239] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Danks wrote: It amuses me to no end that I stop looking at these forums for two years and when I come back it's the exact same thread with a different title. Also, I can post without an active account? Neat. You should see F&I Welcome back. lulz, he thinks 2 years is long, I've noticed the same themes since I started in 2007, and i've seen proof that the same things have gone on since the beginnin. Like in the "EVE is dying" thread in General Discussion where a guy linked a post from 2003 where a guy proclaimed that ganking was killing EVE...he should have said "ganking will kill EVE in 14 to 15 years, I'm sure of it!!!!
Omar Alharazaad Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 3161	Posted - 2017.01.05 15:44:43 - [240] - Quote Ganking will totally kill eve in the next fifteen years. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2807	Posted - 2017.01.05 15:58:05 - [241] - Quote Omar Alharazaad wrote: Ganking will totally kill eve in the next fifteen years. Praise be to RNGesus, you took that stupid hat off. Yes, I know this post is totally off-topic...but isn't this whole thread really? Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures I predicted FAUXs
Dom Arkaral Axios 712	Posted - 2017.01.05 16:12:32 - [242] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: Omar Alharazaad wrote: Ganking will totally kill eve in the next fifteen years. Praise be to RNGesus, you took that stupid hat off. Yes, I know this post is totally off-topic...but isn't this whole thread really? at this point pretty much lol OP couldn't deliver, because... well... there was only a plan to take iskies from dumber people than himself (and somehow that failed hard hahah) Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3399	Posted - 2017.01.05 16:18:51 - [243] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: What? You are not on strike, maybe it is just the Kusions then... PS Woof woof, here have a bone to gnaw on... It seams like if they don't login for a few days AG is completely out of content the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 2683	Posted - 2017.01.05 17:24:09 - [244] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Dracvlad wrote: What? You are not on strike, maybe it is just the Kusions then... PS Woof woof, here have a bone to gnaw on... It seams like if they don't login for a few days AG is completely out of content I thought CODE was on strike? When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour. Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 9	Posted - 2017.01.05 20:34:27 - [245] - Quote We are still very much active and still working with miners. It`s been a very exiting week for us. Still we see that most of the people we have contact with are within the game and the forum thingy was less successfull at reaching out to people. ( but we wanted to give it a shot) But we will ofc still have this thread open for when the times comes.
Jaxi Wreckful The Conference Elite CODE. 102	Posted - 2017.01.07 00:05:23 - [246] - Quote HiSec is already under the complate protection of James 315. He was elected savior of HiSec years ago. Where have you been?
Jdom TheHunter World Wide Killaz Industries 0	Posted - 2017.01.07 02:49:55 - [247] - Quote I don't see anything on kill boards saying yall done anything. If you really want to stop them then hunt them and kill them. They got bad enough security ratings in that you can zap them as they leave port without concord zapping you. It's easy to look up on kb where they are. And as for the law of highsec bs lol, yall sound and act like isis. Radical ideals, suicide bombings and kill all who think differently. Bet yall yell Allah Akbar before humping goats.
Dom Arkaral Axios 712	Posted - 2017.01.07 08:10:11 - [248] - Quote Jdom TheHunter wrote: I don't see anything on kill boards saying yall done anything. If you really want to stop them then hunt them and kill them. They got bad enough security ratings in that you can zap them as they leave port without concord zapping you. It's easy to look up on kb where they are. And as for the law of highsec bs lol, yall sound and act like isis. Radical ideals, suicide bombings and kill all who think differently. Bet yall yell Allah Akbar before humping goats. personally I prefer yelling "burn you heathen!!" or "deus vult!!!" so yeah, nope... Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Vipsan Agrippa State Protectorate Caldari State 1	Posted - 2017.01.07 16:22:20 - [249] - Quote Jaxi Wreckful wrote: HiSec is already under the complate protection of James 315. He was elected savior of HiSec years ago. Where have you been? I knew there was a safe space in Eve for people like you Jaxi. Just like mummy read you, James315 like Tinkerbell is relevant if you believe they are real. I know fairies and the prospect of a female US president are real to you. You just keep believing.....
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3411	Posted - 2017.01.07 22:34:15 - [250] - Quote Vipsan Agrippa wrote: I knew there was a safe space in Eve for people like you Jaxi. Just like mummy read you, James315 like Tinkerbell is relevant if you believe they are real. I know fairies and the prospect of a female US president are real to you. You just keep believing..... We all know there are some tears behind that internet tough guy facade. Would you like to share them? the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014

ISD Decoy ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1688	Posted - 2017.01.07 22:43:05 - [251] - Quote Discriminatory comments about any particular faith will not be tolerated. Quote: 6. Racism and discrimination are prohibited. Racism, gender stereotyping, hate speech, and sexism are not permitted on the EVE Online Forums. Derogatory posting that includes race, religion or sexual preference based personal attacks and trolling can result in immediate suspension of forum posting privileges. ISD Decoy Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Morgan Agrivar Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 773	Posted - 2017.01.07 23:36:44 - [252] - Quote
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 9	Posted - 2017.01.08 18:29:05 - [253] - Quote Jaxi Wreckful wrote: HiSec is already under the complate protection of James 315. He was elected savior of HiSec years ago. Where have you been? People aint free with james laws.. You cant point a gun to someones head and tell them to do or die,,, and say that they hade a free will. Do as we say or get killed is forced protection to say the least. Suiciders are not the good guys I cant believe i have to explain that..
Mobadder Thworst Perkone Caldari State 1175	Posted - 2017.01.08 18:38:12 - [254] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Jaxi Wreckful wrote: HiSec is already under the complate protection of James 315. He was elected savior of HiSec years ago. Where have you been? People aint free with james laws.. You cant point a gun to someones head and tell them to do or die,,, and say that they hade a free will. Do as we say or get killed is forced protection to say the least. Suiciders are not the good guys I cant believe i have to explain that.. I must admit, while conducting a small cleanup effort in the belts of Umokka (littering should be a criminal offense in this game), I noticed quite a bit of mining. CODE knows how to get them to stop. I think we are far enough along for me to assert that you don't know how to make them stop. You are ineffective. In truth, I'm saddened to see this garbage thread bumped back to life. The most needed "strike" in this game right now is for us to stop reviving his inane thread. Mo "This space intentionally left blank"
Jdom TheHunter World Wide Killaz Industries 0	Posted - 2017.01.08 20:34:52 - [255] - Quote Hmmm let's see, it takes 3 toons to kill 1 toon without weapons while another toon shoots at station to delay concord. So is Code for garbage noobs that can't kill but still want mom to grab the camera? Any other game ever yall would be considered total garbage. Seriously total garbage. Kb is filled with garbage kills. As for the so called protection that's sad that kb for them has 0 code kills. Wouldn't it be easy to look up code locations on kb and hit them. I mean how hard would it be to sit outside of station after they die with your ships ready to pounce after they get killed by concord? Even if you make them sit there in hiding that would be considered a win right? Really it should be the miners that stand up for themselves. If miners brought ships to fight to system that they are mining then when code shows up they can get to station and switch. Set code standings to bad and keep local open in a separate window. When you see one form fleet and hunt them. They can be shot on site because of their sec levels. Tbh code and miners unwilling to protect themselves are on the same level to me. Rats in space with no purpose but false gratification. The roaches you find in hoarders homes. One says they are the law of highsec and yet wouldn't dare challenge anyone with any real power. They are like that kid in school that always lied about how tough they were and how many fights they won but only picked on the weakest of kids. The ones that would jump 1 special needs kid and them high five eachother. But when someone actually tough showed up they'd show out. Then there's the miner that doesn't stand up but complains even though the first gank wouldn't be their fault but every one there after would be. Yet that miner will still play victim when they in fact failed by not applying what they learned from the first time. You can't help those that won't help themselves. You are like the bug on the bottom of shoes, no one care. Those that stand up and at least fight are those that can and will be respected. Don't be a victim as it won't do anything but keep them coming back for more easy kills. Just think it take a total of 3 or 4 tons for them to kill 1 weaponless ship, what can you do to them with a fleet armed with weapons.
Vipsan Agrippa State Protectorate Caldari State 6	Posted - 2017.01.09 00:26:12 - [256] - Quote In to em JDOM, your the man with the answers!!!
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3413	Posted - 2017.01.09 00:59:57 - [257] - Quote Jdom TheHunter wrote: drivel You should join the anti-ganking channel. It is a in-game channel full of people who talk all day about crazy ideas how to stop us and how superior they are. You would fit right in. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Jdom TheHunter World Wide Killaz Industries 0	Posted - 2017.01.09 10:23:08 - [258] - Quote It doesn't take much to be superior to those that only shoot the defenseless with multiple toons. Lol must play all games with God mode on cause that's sad. But I get it, since you can't kill anything might as well shoot at ventures. Right? Gotta get them feel goods some how lol
Dom Arkaral Axios 714	Posted - 2017.01.09 10:45:52 - [259] - Quote Jdom TheHunter wrote: It doesn't take much to be superior to those that only shoot the defenseless with multiple toons. Lol must play all games with God mode on cause that's sad. But I get it, since you can't kill anything might as well shoot at ventures. Right? Gotta get them feel goods some how lol Hi there, HTFU pls Mr. Sheep, You'll never go up the ladder of the EVE food chain with such a nitshian attitude And crying on here about a group that does pvp (concensual or not) in a pvp game is just hilarious Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Zimmy Zeta Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 60045	Posted - 2017.01.09 10:53:00 - [260] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Jdom TheHunter wrote: drivel You should join the anti-ganking channel. It is a in-game channel full of people who talk all day about crazy ideas how to stop us and how superior they are. You would fit right in. Was expecting bitter drivel, but actually, deep within his wall of text, he is raising a few very good points: Jdom TheHunter wrote: Really it should be the miners that stand up for themselves. If miners brought ships to fight to system that they are mining then when code shows up they can get to station and switch. Set code standings to bad and keep local open in a separate window. When you see one form fleet and hunt them. They can be shot on site because of their sec levels. Jdom TheHunter wrote: Then there's the miner that doesn't stand up but complains even though the first gank wouldn't be their fault but every one there after would be. Yet that miner will still play victim when they in fact failed by not applying what they learned from the first time. You can't help those that won't help themselves. You are like the bug on the bottom of shoes, no one care. Those that stand up and at least fight are those that can and will be respected. Don't be a victim as it won't do anything but keep them coming back for more easy kills. I think he might be onto something here... I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3419	Posted - 2017.01.09 10:59:22 - [261] - Quote Jdom TheHunter wrote: It doesn't take much to be superior to those that only shoot the defenseless with multiple toons. Lol must play all games with God mode on cause that's sad. But I get it, since you can't kill anything might as well shoot at ventures. Right? Gotta get them feel goods some how lol I kinda like the comparison with the "god mode" cheat. Obviously we are not cheating, but our elite-PvP skills obviously make it look like we do. This brings me to Ima Wreckyou's first law, which is: Ima Wreckyou wrote: Any sufficiently elite PvP skill is indistinguishable from cheating the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Marlin Spikes EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 246	Posted - 2017.01.10 13:33:19 - [262] - Quote This post is still open? I could hardly get past the OP's great master plan of internet spaceships world domination. Bombers Rule!!!
Galaxy Duck Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing 266	Posted - 2017.01.10 20:51:30 - [263] - Quote Jdom TheHunter wrote: ...I mean how hard would it be to sit outside of station after they die with your ships ready to pounce after they get killed by concord? Even if you make them sit there in hiding that would be considered a win right? His master plan is to station camp us. Time to throw in the towel folks, we got a real theorycrafter here.
Jdom TheHunter World Wide Killaz Industries 0	Posted - 2017.01.10 21:37:29 - [264] - Quote Actually my plan would be to suicide gank your salvage ships and scouts.
Galaxy Duck Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing 266	Posted - 2017.01.11 19:58:42 - [265] - Quote Jdom TheHunter wrote: Actually my plan would be to suicide gank your salvage ships and scouts. With the profit I make from the average gank, I could afford to buy a new heron literally every time and still be turning a profit. Don't quit your day job, brother.
Areen Sassel 168	Posted - 2017.01.12 01:51:42 - [266] - Quote Marlin Spikes wrote: This post is still open? I could hardly get past the OP's great master plan of internet spaceships world domination. I think we're now into the "how to beat CODE, 2012 edition" bit of the thread. Any minute now Jdom is going to suggest bumping the Invincible Stabber back.
Jdom TheHunter World Wide Killaz Industries 2	Posted - 2017.01.12 11:11:04 - [267] - Quote Bump party you say?
Vipsan Agrippa State Protectorate Caldari State 70	Posted - 2017.01.12 12:48:44 - [268] - Quote One of the most effective campaigns' against the Codies was waged buy Tora's boys. Why was he so successful? He attacked Codie cargo ships. If they could not get stolen loot to Station/Market it broke their business model. Code peaked in the Winter of 2015, when they were bankrolled by Goonies and did not need the loot so much, but they even ganked that up. The spigot was shut n they withered on the vine. Jdom, if you like I can email you my Codie teamspeak details. Their new Dutch CEO was so gracious to set me up with access.
Dom Arkaral Axios 718	Posted - 2017.01.12 14:03:57 - [269] - Quote Kek AG are so bored that they're joining CODE. to gank CODE. Always. Wins. Fun fact: Jennifer En Marland was CODE.'s FC for a whole week some time last year... back when AG did more antiganking ingame than on the forums XD Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Galaxy Duck Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing 267	Posted - 2017.01.12 15:10:04 - [270] - Quote Vipsan Agrippa wrote: One of the most effective campaigns' against the Codies was waged buy Tora's boys. Why was he so successful? He attacked Codie cargo ships. If they could not get stolen loot to Station/Market it broke their business model. Code peaked in the Winter of 2015, when they were bankrolled by Goonies and did not need the loot so much, but they even ganked that up. The spigot was shut n they withered on the vine. Jdom, if you like I can email you my Codie teamspeak details. Their new Dutch CEO was so gracious to set me up with access. Lmao what business model? As for the rest, you are correct. Without goon funding, we're lost. As you can see from this dotlan link, we're withering on the vine.

Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4731	Posted - 2017.01.12 15:39:01 - [271] - Quote People unironically using "goonie" in a sentence is cringe inducing.
Black Locust Black Flag CommonWealth Fidelas Constans 21	Posted - 2017.01.12 15:48:16 - [272] - Quote Mobadder Thworst wrote: Galaxy Duck wrote: Mo, as you are clearly the only legitimate propriator of this movement, please accept my pledge of 10bil. Thank you GalaxyDuck. I will be posting a picture of the miner you saved when time allows. This brings our donation drive to Eleventy batrillion and one isk, which is a much larger number than anyone else on this thread has posted. We have decided that instead of buying all the materials, it will be easier to buy and reprocess the systems of "Amarr" and "Jita". Save the miners, Mo My wife normally sits opposite me at the kitchen table, however, I don't think this will happen much anymore as I just spat tea all over her face while reading this. Despite the fact i now have an angry wife, this post made my day :)
Vipsan Agrippa State Protectorate Caldari State 74	Posted - 2017.01.12 15:54:41 - [273] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: People unironically using "goonie" in a sentence is cringe inducing. Only if you wear your sexy teachers uniform Vimsy, will I give the correct spelling, might give you an apple too.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4731	Posted - 2017.01.12 15:59:39 - [274] - Quote What kind of totalitarian state do you come from where teachers have uniforms.
Vipsan Agrippa State Protectorate Caldari State 75	Posted - 2017.01.12 16:06:43 - [275] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: What kind of totalitarian state do you come from where teachers have uniforms. Private School system. Oh Vimsy, and I thought you were a well groomed lady. You are not a lady?!
Window Licker McTard Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2017.01.13 08:40:09 - [276] - Quote No one will stand up to the gankers in Code, we stand together like transformers!!! or Power Rangers!!! We leave no gankers behind!!! James315 will toch you alls. I'm a special elite ganker, Codes finest warrior bard druid. I gank as much as possible cause I'm good. Don't mess with me minor, i'll mess with you harder. I have no honor. Dommy and Sasha are my wingmen and have my backside.
Dom Arkaral Axios 721	Posted - 2017.01.13 13:33:07 - [277] - Quote Miner, calm down... You know CODE. Is doing a good job when people get so butthurt they make alts to try and make them look bad XD Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Zaha Koto State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2017.01.13 14:29:49 - [278] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Miner, calm down... You know CODE. Is doing a good job when people get so butthurt they make alts to try and make them look bad XD I wait ever hopefully that you might one day post something that demonstrates some inkling of intelligence. I fear my wait will be in vain
Window Licker McTard Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2017.01.13 14:45:19 - [279] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Miner, calm down... You know CODE. Is doing a good job when people get so butthurt they make alts to try and make them look bad XD You mean to say Dommy; Sasha is an AG alt to make us look feeble minded and stupid!!!??? I will confront him now, remember when you and I raided that wizard island in WOW, and I ninja swiped that diss-spell-illusion scroll. Well we will soon now the truth!!! I'm a special elite ganker, Codes finest warrior bard druid. I gank as much as possible cause I'm good. Don't mess with me minor, i'll mess with you harder. I have no honor. Dommy and Sasha are my wingmen and have my backside.
Dom Arkaral Axios 722	Posted - 2017.01.13 14:59:21 - [280] - Quote Zaha Koto wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Miner, calm down... You know CODE. Is doing a good job when people get so butthurt they make alts to try and make them look bad XD I wait ever hopefully that you might one day post something that demonstrates some inkling of intelligence. I fear my wait will be in vain Post on your main and I will... Oh wait... it probably got banned lmao #ripinpepe Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111

Zaha Koto State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2017.01.13 15:43:18 - [281] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Zaha Koto wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Miner, calm down... You know CODE. Is doing a good job when people get so butthurt they make alts to try and make them look bad XD I wait ever hopefully that you might one day post something that demonstrates some inkling of intelligence. I fear my wait will be in vain Post on your main and I will... Oh wait... it probably got banned lmao #ripinpepe Like I said yet another 'positive' post
Frostys Virpio Yet another corpdot. 3053	Posted - 2017.01.13 16:27:12 - [282] - Quote Why do all anti-gank idea always seem to be so stupid?
Window Licker McTard Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2017.01.13 16:36:35 - [283] - Quote I'm wit Frosty on this 1. We Codies have full-spectrum-duminance. They cant penetrat our superity. Our tactical brain do loops and circles and rings and orbits and spins around. Join wit me together Frosty and say gankers are one mind, super super as 1 team, and we circle gank together!!!!!! !! I'm a special elite ganker, Codes finest warrior bard druid. I gank as much as possible cause I'm good. Don't mess with me minor, i'll mess with you harder. I have no honor. Dommy and Sasha are my wingmen and have my backside.
Zaha Koto State War Academy Caldari State 6	Posted - 2017.01.13 18:21:03 - [284] - Quote " We Codies have full-spectrum-duminance" You never said a truer word
Sol epoch Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 390	Posted - 2017.01.13 18:21:48 - [285] - Quote Are we there yet?
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 27336	Posted - 2017.01.13 18:36:48 - [286] - Quote Sol epoch wrote: Are we there yet? It doesn't matter, this train has no brakes. In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Sol epoch Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 393	Posted - 2017.01.13 21:48:44 - [287] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Sol epoch wrote: Are we there yet? It doesn't matter, this train has no brakes. More than that! It has no destination.
Galaxy Duck Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing 270	Posted - 2017.01.13 21:55:58 - [288] - Quote Window Licker McTard wrote: I'm wit Frosty on this 1. We Codies have full-spectrum-duminance. They cant penetrat our superity. Our tactical brain do loops and circles and rings and orbits and spins around. Join wit me together Frosty and say gankers are one mind, super super as 1 team, and we circle gank together!!!!!! !! The butthurt is strong with this one.
Window Licker McTard Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2017.01.14 07:47:55 - [289] - Quote Galaxy Duck wrote: Window Licker McTard wrote: I'm wit Frosty on this 1. We Codies have full-spectrum-duminance. They cant penetrat our superity. Our tactical brain do loops and circles and rings and orbits and spins around. Join wit me together Frosty and say gankers are one mind, super super as 1 team, and we circle gank together!!!!!! !! The butthurt is strong with this one. WAT???????!!!!!!!!! dUCKY YOU PROMISED TO BE MY EVE SHEILD MAIDEN AND HOLD MY BEHIND!!!!!!!!! And you said we had the bronski beat and ganking in common, now your going over to the other side. Im surrounded by AG illusionists and karma chameleons!! breathe mctard, must go to my happy place, yes Frankies pleasure dome, relax. I'm a special elite ganker, Codes finest warrior bard druid. I gank as much as possible cause I'm good. Don't mess with me minor, i'll mess with you harder. I have no honor. Dommy and Sasha are my wingmen and have my backside.
Morgan Agrivar Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 793	Posted - 2017.01.14 13:40:06 - [290] - Quote Window Licker McTard wrote: Galaxy Duck wrote: Window Licker McTard wrote: I'm wit Frosty on this 1. We Codies have full-spectrum-duminance. They cant penetrat our superity. Our tactical brain do loops and circles and rings and orbits and spins around. Join wit me together Frosty and say gankers are one mind, super super as 1 team, and we circle gank together!!!!!! !! The butthurt is strong with this one. WAT???????!!!!!!!!! dUCKY YOU PROMISED TO BE MY EVE SHEILD MAIDEN AND HOLD MY BEHIND!!!!!!!!! And you said we had the bronski beat and ganking in common, now your going over to the other side. Im surrounded by AG illusionists and karma chameleons!! breathe mctard, must go to my happy place, yes Frankies pleasure dome, relax. I counter your horrible song and video with this one! En garde!!!

Window Licker McTard Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2017.01.14 16:36:22 - [291] - Quote You mean horrible is sick cause that song is sick. If we are gunna talk about sexy music with soul, I can raise your song wit this: its how I feel when I 1st met Dommy and Sasha I'm a special elite ganker, Codes finest warrior bard druid. I gank as much as possible cause I'm good. Don't mess with me minor, i'll mess with you harder. I have no honor. Dommy and Sasha are my wingmen and have my backside.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3520	Posted - 2017.01.14 23:25:39 - [292] - Quote Morgan Agrivar wrote: Window Licker McTard wrote: Galaxy Duck wrote: Window Licker McTard wrote: I'm wit Frosty on this 1. We Codies have full-spectrum-duminance. They cant penetrat our superity. Our tactical brain do loops and circles and rings and orbits and spins around. Join wit me together Frosty and say gankers are one mind, super super as 1 team, and we circle gank together!!!!!! !! The butthurt is strong with this one. WAT???????!!!!!!!!! dUCKY YOU PROMISED TO BE MY EVE SHEILD MAIDEN AND HOLD MY BEHIND!!!!!!!!! And you said we had the bronski beat and ganking in common, now your going over to the other side. Im surrounded by AG illusionists and karma chameleons!! breathe mctard, must go to my happy place, yes Frankies pleasure dome, relax. I counter your horrible song and video with this one! En garde!!! Whoa hoad the Bob Damed Batphone 1 tick there mate. DID YOU JUST CALL THIS a bad song/video???????????<--- Lots of question marks for the seriousness Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Morgan Agrivar Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 794	Posted - 2017.01.14 23:33:46 - [293] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Morgan Agrivar wrote: Window Licker McTard wrote: Galaxy Duck wrote: Window Licker McTard wrote: I'm wit Frosty on this 1. We Codies have full-spectrum-duminance. They cant penetrat our superity. Our tactical brain do loops and circles and rings and orbits and spins around. Join wit me together Frosty and say gankers are one mind, super super as 1 team, and we circle gank together!!!!!! !! The butthurt is strong with this one. WAT???????!!!!!!!!! dUCKY YOU PROMISED TO BE MY EVE SHEILD MAIDEN AND HOLD MY BEHIND!!!!!!!!! And you said we had the bronski beat and ganking in common, now your going over to the other side. Im surrounded by AG illusionists and karma chameleons!! breathe mctard, must go to my happy place, yes Frankies pleasure dome, relax. I counter your horrible song and video with this one! En garde!!! Whoa hoad the Bob Damed Batphone 1 tick there mate. DID YOU JUST CALL THIS a bad song/video???????????<--- Lots of question marks for the seriousness Yes.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3520	Posted - 2017.01.14 23:39:56 - [294] - Quote Morgan Agrivar wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Morgan Agrivar wrote: I counter your horrible song and video with this one! En garde!!! Whoa hoad the Bob Damed Batphone 1 tick there mate. DID YOU JUST CALL THIS a bad song/video???????????<--- Lots of question marks for the seriousness Yes. This is what they call a 'good 80's song'... Get out of my sub forum Also THIS Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Morgan Agrivar Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 794	Posted - 2017.01.14 23:45:32 - [295] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Morgan Agrivar wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Morgan Agrivar wrote: I counter your horrible song and video with this one! En garde!!! Whoa hoad the Bob Damed Batphone 1 tick there mate. DID YOU JUST CALL THIS a bad song/video???????????<--- Lots of question marks for the seriousness Yes. This is what they call a 'good 80's song'... Get out of my sub forum Also THIS Joke is on you! I like that song! And no, you are stuck with me. Have been and always will....
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3521	Posted - 2017.01.14 23:57:50 - [296] - Quote Morgan Agrivar wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Morgan Agrivar wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Morgan Agrivar wrote: I counter your horrible song and video with this one! En garde!!! Whoa hoad the Bob Damed Batphone 1 tick there mate. DID YOU JUST CALL THIS a bad song/video???????????<--- Lots of question marks for the seriousness Yes. This is what they call a 'good 80's song'... Get out of my sub forum Also THIS Joke is on you! I like that song! And no, you are stuck with me. Have been and always will.... I do too. I thought for a bit there we were going to start linking our favourite remakes of various songs and than you ruined it with a real song Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5160	Posted - 2017.01.15 00:17:53 - [297] - Quote ..... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Window Licker McTard Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2017.01.15 00:27:47 - [298] - Quote Back on topic you railroaders. Nuthen can rev up a Codie ganking fest on tmspk more than are ARCH 80's classic Relax by Frankie. You could call it the Gankers soundtrack to Eve. We gankers select our sick music very very special cause its all part of are full-spectrum-duminance. Codies always win sick like always nuthen AG's can do counter top us. I'm a special elite ganker, Codes finest warrior bard druid. I gank as much as possible cause I'm good. Don't mess with me minor, i'll mess with you harder. I have no honor. Dommy and Sasha are my wingmen and have my backside.
Morgan Agrivar Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 795	Posted - 2017.01.15 09:47:08 - [299] - Quote I don't know, the Indian "Thriller" was pretty interesting. And being on topic is boring when the thread is so pointless...
Window Licker McTard Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2017.01.15 10:30:03 - [300] - Quote Morgan Agrivar wrote: And being on topic is boring when the thread is so pointless... You sound like my nihilist goth sister, maybe you could hook up and stair at black walls and listen to the cure. she needs some friends to I'm a special elite ganker, Codes finest warrior bard druid. I gank as much as possible cause I'm good. Don't mess with me minor, i'll mess with you harder. I have no honor. Dommy and Sasha are my wingmen and have my backside.

Morgan Agrivar Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 795	Posted - 2017.01.15 14:39:18 - [301] - Quote Window Licker McTard wrote: Morgan Agrivar wrote: And being on topic is boring when the thread is so pointless... You sound like my nihilist goth sister, maybe you could hook up and stair at black walls and listen to the cure. she needs some friends to
Window Licker McTard Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 27	Posted - 2017.01.15 16:50:20 - [302] - Quote Back on topic hyjakers I recently created ma own thread in gen discussion ONLY TO HAVE SHUT DOWN!!!!!! I was told by james3155 himself we gankers owned these admin types. wats going on??? is this some kind of anti fasicist ganker pushback? I'm a special elite ganker, Codes finest warrior bard druid. I gank as much as possible cause I'm good. Don't mess with me minor, i'll mess with you harder. I have no honor. Dommy and Sasha are my wingmen and have my backside.
Dom Arkaral Axios 722	Posted - 2017.01.15 17:27:31 - [303] - Quote The butthurt is strong with this one But hey, I got one more stupid fanboi Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. General councillor of general stuff Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Nitshe's favorite <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3523	Posted - 2017.01.15 17:37:13 - [304] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: The butthurt is strong with this one But hey, I got one more stupid fanboi You haven't eve'd properly until people make propaganda about you Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Zaha Koto State War Academy Caldari State 6	Posted - 2017.01.15 20:48:04 - [305] - Quote Just because you're playing a game doesn't mean that intelligence needs to be abandoned. The total lack of intelligence in this thread shines so brightly it almost burns my eyes
StonerPhReaK Herb Men 550	Posted - 2017.01.15 21:32:56 - [306] - Quote Post #301 Snipers are active. Miners still mining. Hard Bread can make a hotdog eatting experience not fun. Peter Steele Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Vipsan Agrippa State Protectorate Caldari State 105	Posted - 2017.01.15 22:41:56 - [307] - Quote Post #302. No one gets out alive.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4735	Posted - 2017.01.16 01:35:08 - [308] - Quote Has the OP magically ended suicide ganking yet?
Saeger1737 Bite the pillow 1832	Posted - 2017.01.16 04:14:08 - [309] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Has the OP magically ended suicide ganking yet? Will you ever make me that pan of brownies? MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
Nick Actilete New Order Logistics CODE. 13	Posted - 2017.01.16 09:43:15 - [310] - Quote Update 1/16/17: Suicide ganking still happening

Saeger1737 Bite the pillow 1832	Posted - 2017.01.16 11:33:48 - [311] - Quote Nick Actilete wrote: Update 1/16/17: Suicide ganking still happening And should be a staple in the game as long as the servers are still up. It's eve not wow..... MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
Dom Arkaral Axios 724	Posted - 2017.01.16 12:18:19 - [312] - Quote Saeger1737 wrote: Nick Actilete wrote: Update 1/16/17: Suicide ganking still happening And should be a staple in the game as long as the servers are still up. It's eve not wow..... B.. but I thought I was playing Hello Kitty Online T_T Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Knows stuff #IamDom Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Gù+Bane of Nitshe <3 Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain <3 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101111
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 27348	Posted - 2017.01.16 20:36:19 - [313] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Saeger1737 wrote: Nick Actilete wrote: Update 1/16/17: Suicide ganking still happening And should be a staple in the game as long as the servers are still up. It's eve not wow..... B.. but I thought I was playing Hello Kitty Online T_T This may be relevant to your interests. Courtesy of Crossing Zebras In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Morgan Agrivar Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 797	Posted - 2017.01.17 01:43:32 - [314] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Saeger1737 wrote: Nick Actilete wrote: Update 1/16/17: Suicide ganking still happening And should be a staple in the game as long as the servers are still up. It's eve not wow..... B.. but I thought I was playing Hello Kitty Online T_T This may be relevant to your interests. Courtesy of Crossing Zebras I would fly the hell out of that! \o/
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3524	Posted - 2017.01.17 02:13:47 - [315] - Quote Saeger1737 wrote: Nick Actilete wrote: Update 1/16/17: Suicide ganking still happening And should be a staple in the game as long as the servers are still up. It's eve not wow..... Makes out like we all haven't tried to do just this on wow. How do you think we all got stuck here Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4735	Posted - 2017.01.17 02:58:22 - [316] - Quote Saeger1737 wrote: Vimsy Vortis wrote: Has the OP magically ended suicide ganking yet? Will you ever make me that pan of brownies? Adriel is the one who cooks. I'm the one who tells you how bad you are at EVE for half an hour on teamspeak and then demands you rep me because I'm suspect and tackled by 40 Comets.
StonerPhReaK Herb Men 562	Posted - 2017.01.17 22:10:53 - [317] - Quote Saeger1737 wrote: Vimsy Vortis wrote: Has the OP magically ended suicide ganking yet? Will you ever make me that pan of brownies? I can make a good batch of brownies. Also, tootsie rolls. Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Saeger1737 Bite the pillow 1834	Posted - 2017.01.18 01:28:55 - [318] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Saeger1737 wrote: Vimsy Vortis wrote: Has the OP magically ended suicide ganking yet? Will you ever make me that pan of brownies? Adriel is the one who cooks. I'm the one who tells you how bad you are at EVE for half an hour on teamspeak and then demands you rep me because I'm suspect and tackled by 40 Comets. I only recall you doing to me three times..... And I think I provided boosts... Or a bump back to a gate while you where angrily yelling In TS. Yay!!! MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
Saeger1737 Bite the pillow 1834	Posted - 2017.01.18 01:33:42 - [319] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Saeger1737 wrote: Nick Actilete wrote: Update 1/16/17: Suicide ganking still happening And should be a staple in the game as long as the servers are still up. It's eve not wow..... B.. but I thought I was playing Hello Kitty Online T_T This may be relevant to your interests. Courtesy of Crossing Zebras I'd hope this comes in Titan size, or in any ship size cause I'd fly fleets with this skin..... Imagine 40 thrashers covered in hello Kitty banking you.... At least you think happy thoughts before you die a horrible death!!! MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
Fleet Arel Gankmeister Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2017.01.19 02:59:34 - [320] - Quote "The Code has proven that our enemies are wrong to oppose us and our Code. They don't have an argument. They don't even have any ideas! This leads us to the question of why we should bother examining their motives at all. The New Order is comprised of reasonable men and women who never do anything without a good reason, so let's think about it."- James315 the man who touched me. They don't know us nor did they attend community college. James315 feeds our brain with enlightenment, not as good as a womyns studies PhD but close. They aren't discovering their man vagina like we are. James touched me there and opened new possibilities. I discovered I could be more than a man whilst ganking, I could become a transdolphin in my sexuality. Come swim and gank with me. Listen to all James has to say on a loop and never never question his wisdom. Sure some call his style brainwashing the feeble minded, I call it expanding out inner man vagina. We were all born to serve James, just don't question it. I hope to find my man vagina through the teachings of James315. I attended a top 5000 community college and hold a PhD in Womyns Glass Triggerings. If you criticise my posts you are just being prejudice against my Transdolphin sexuality.

ISD Max Trix ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1245	Posted - 2017.01.19 17:40:33 - [321] - Quote Removed a Troll Post. ISD Max Trix Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Fleet Arel Gankmeister Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2017.01.19 18:53:55 - [322] - Quote Another appalling post from a fellow Codie, I am ashamed right down to my man vagina. If they had a PhD like me they would have displayed more decorum. Jame315 and I will take turns disciplining them latter.
ISD Chanisa Nemes ISD Community Communications Liaisons 69	Posted - 2017.01.19 20:36:42 - [323] - Quote I have also removed a Troll Post. ISD Chanisa Nemes Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Fleet Arel Gankmeister Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2017.01.19 20:44:18 - [324] - Quote Double teamed by a man n womyn?? Mmmmmmm I'm ISD curious now?? Or is an ISD something you catch after satisfying your curiosity??
Remy Dullard Griefstein Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2017.01.19 20:49:23 - [325] - Quote Skip on Arel, she has eyes for me and my big Marauder. I have low self esteem ganking is my therapy. RL has given me a kick to the goolies, now its my time to kick you. Don't call me STUPID!!! Trophy Count: 9 Tears, 14 Rage spams, 45 Eve perma quits. I am Eve Cancer, Me Bad :)
Divad Mahdits Moosearmy Moose Federation 5	Posted - 2017.01.20 02:02:41 - [326] - Quote Just read the corp desc in-game. Mining barges: Simulated Procurer (Recommended). Exhumers; Simulated Skiff (Recommended) That is not how you protect mining efficiency. Here is a list of better quality: Covetor/Hulk - Use this ship if you're mining in a fleet that has an Orca or Porpoise due to both the mining boosts and the ability to dump the ore into the fleet hangar so you don't need to be warping back and forth when full to dump ore into a station every cycle. These mining ships have the best yield, but the worst ore hold of the three. These ships should be fit with pure yield, Mining upgrades should be the only things in the lows. Retriever/Mackinaw - Reccomended for most miners as most people usually solo mine in hisec. They have good well-rounded yield, and their ore holds are the biggest of the three. This makes them perfect for the ability to never have to warp back and forth to dump ore into a station very often at all. These ships should have Mining upgrades as the only modules in their low slots. Procurer/Skiff - If you're mining ore in hisec in one of these, you're doing it wrong and you're only giving CODE what they want; letting them have their relevancy and instilling the idea that they're something to actually worry about(which they aren't, really). These ships should ONLY be used for ice mining if you're in hisec, as given their bonuses. Never use them for anything else during that time for mining. They have an ore hold that is half of what a Retriever/Mackinaw has, and about almost twice the space as a Covetor/Hulk has. Their ORE mining yield is the lowest of the three and you'll be sitting their for days without having made any impact on even the smallest rocks out there. The great Procurer/Skiff fits you see, tanked to all get out, should be what you're looking for. This is also the only mining ship that you don't need to worry about yield on, ALWAYS have at least a Damage Control in one of the low slots, maybe a Drone Damage Amplifier as well if you need an extra kick for your drones. Remember, children, never let CODE tell you how to play the game. You play the way YOU want to, that's how to beat them. If you want to fly completely untanked Hulks solo in hisec in the middle of CODE territory with no "permit" while you're telling them to **** off? Go right ahead, because I believe in you.
Kaely Tanniss OMGWTFBBQTIME I Know Right 706	Posted - 2017.01.20 09:32:32 - [327] - Quote Oh this is cute.. +1 for entertainment value If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Keno Skir 1216	Posted - 2017.01.22 13:34:05 - [328] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: Other organizations have stepped forward hoping to accomplish the same as you. They've all failed. I look forward to hearing about your attempt. Oh, and don't forget that The Code always wins. Well even water destroys rocks in time, keep hating and laughing but you will see that there is alot more people who want to see a change. Maby not Ccp changing the game, but we can atleast try, just like anyone else. Fly right fitted The problem with your water/rock analogy is that you and your predecessors are the rock and ganking organizations like CODE. are the water. Let that sink in for a moment. I'm not a CODE. member, nor do I suicide gank (well, at least not often), but I've come to learn that they're actually trying to accomplish the same thing as you. Among other things, they're trying to get people to stop flying dangerously and actually enjoy the game instead of playing Boredom Online. (The fact that they're a money-making arm for various nullsec groups came later, but, whatever.) The Code always wins. Here's how: Successful suicide gank: The Code wins for obvious reasons. Unsuccessful suicide gank: The Code wins. They had fun, and maybe they scared their intended victim into flying less dangerously. Forces show up to protect assets and/or stop ganks: The Code wins. They have fun winning in spite of opposition, and people are getting more involved in actually playing the game and doing less AFK-play. People learn to stop flying dangerously and/or play AFK less: The Code wins. This is actually the core of their belief system for as much stock you put in it. The more you fight them, the more they win. The less you fight them, the more they win. Basically, they win no matter what you or anyone else does, so they always win. Wow. well your mind is pretty much set. Like any conspiracy fan you only think from one angle, no matter how much you twist it. I wont try to change your mind. But i know the code started to make isk,, easyest way possible, the reasons and the idea was build up afterwords as well as meanwhile, and there is nothing wrong with that. BUT also knowing when code started it was pretty much like this ( ppl claiming this and that, and others laughed, but they stuck to it and its now a thing). Well done imo. But they need an opposing force, evil needs to meet the good, Here we are, and our ideas and plans is in motion already, not every idea will work, but we will make a nice additions to corps who prey on helpless players. Cheers all. and help us spread the word He's not the crazy one, you are OP. Your idea has 0 merit and makes very little sense, which is kind of obvious considering you have obviously not played the game very long. If you actually have been playing for years, i'm amazed you grasp the way things work so loosely <Gùï> 250,000 Bonus SP when you start an Alpha Clone HERE <Gùï> Including ISK Bonus & In Game Assistance - Piracy / Wormhole Space / Covops PvP
SmellyOld Fart Rehoboam Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2017.01.25 05:19:12 - [329] - Quote Keno Skir, ma pigs are smarter an better looken then you boy.
Michelle Lemmiwinks Aldoweener Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2017.01.25 20:22:33 - [330] - Quote Yep, sad to say Keno's post was as useless as titts on a bull. Seems ma buds in Codies got nuthen, spose we best return to James3155 and ask for sumthin fresh.

ISD Fractal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1382	Posted - 2017.01.26 13:41:35 - [331] - Quote Quote: 5. Trolling is prohibited. Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. I have removed some trolling posts. ISD Fractal Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Michelle Lemmiwinks Aldoweener Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2017.01.26 16:36:49 - [332] - Quote thx me bud Fractal, them AG's make ma brain n but hurt wit all them jokes. Should be us cracken the jokes abouts all tha minors we here killed. Dang it Jimmy315 makes it look so easy on his minorbummpin site. out heres hard with all the ridicall n all. Tha people don't treat us wit tha respect special elit gankers deserves. Sometimes I feel like biomasssn like the minors wes greifed, just aint fare.
Dom Arkaral Axios 824	Posted - 2017.01.26 17:04:59 - [333] - Quote does anyone even understand what Nitshe is trying to say at this point? lol Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome Max Trix Shall Reign!
Zaha Koto State War Academy Caldari State 36	Posted - 2017.01.26 20:05:16 - [334] - Quote Keno Skir wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: Rippy Gurista wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: Other organizations have stepped forward hoping to accomplish the same as you. They've all failed. I look forward to hearing about your attempt. Oh, and don't forget that The Code always wins. Well even water destroys rocks in time, keep hating and laughing but you will see that there is alot more people who want to see a change. Maby not Ccp changing the game, but we can atleast try, just like anyone else. Fly right fitted The problem with your water/rock analogy is that you and your predecessors are the rock and ganking organizations like CODE. are the water. Let that sink in for a moment. I'm not a CODE. member, nor do I suicide gank (well, at least not often), but I've come to learn that they're actually trying to accomplish the same thing as you. Among other things, they're trying to get people to stop flying dangerously and actually enjoy the game instead of playing Boredom Online. (The fact that they're a money-making arm for various nullsec groups came later, but, whatever.) The Code always wins. Here's how: Successful suicide gank: The Code wins for obvious reasons. Unsuccessful suicide gank: The Code wins. They had fun, and maybe they scared their intended victim into flying less dangerously. Forces show up to protect assets and/or stop ganks: The Code wins. They have fun winning in spite of opposition, and people are getting more involved in actually playing the game and doing less AFK-play. People learn to stop flying dangerously and/or play AFK less: The Code wins. This is actually the core of their belief system for as much stock you put in it. The more you fight them, the more they win. The less you fight them, the more they win. Basically, they win no matter what you or anyone else does, so they always win. Wow. well your mind is pretty much set. Like any conspiracy fan you only think from one angle, no matter how much you twist it. I wont try to change your mind. But i know the code started to make isk,, easyest way possible, the reasons and the idea was build up afterwords as well as meanwhile, and there is nothing wrong with that. BUT also knowing when code started it was pretty much like this ( ppl claiming this and that, and others laughed, but they stuck to it and its now a thing). Well done imo. But they need an opposing force, evil needs to meet the good, Here we are, and our ideas and plans is in motion already, not every idea will work, but we will make a nice additions to corps who prey on helpless players. Cheers all. and help us spread the word He's not the crazy one, you are OP. Your idea has 0 merit and makes very little sense, which is kind of obvious considering you have obviously not played the game very long. If you actually have been playing for years, i'm amazed you grasp the way things work so loosely Basically Code have donated 1T+ to James315 in exchange for nothing over and above that which is available to the entire Eve player base. Dumb doesn't even to begin to describe them.
Dom Arkaral Axios 824	Posted - 2017.01.26 20:36:14 - [335] - Quote Zaha Koto wrote: Basically Code supporters have donated 1T+ to James315 in exchange for content over and above that which is available to the entire Eve player base. Brilliant doesn't even to begin to describe them. Fixed that for you Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome Max Trix Shall Reign!
Zaha Koto State War Academy Caldari State 36	Posted - 2017.01.27 05:07:31 - [336] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Zaha Koto wrote: Basically Code supporters have donated 1T+ to James315 in exchange for content over and above that which is available to the entire Eve player base. Brilliant doesn't even to begin to describe them. Fixed that for you You are possibly the dumbest person I have ever known. You just aren't in touch with reality
Mobadder Thworst Legion of the Wicked Way Home Defense Union 1207	Posted - 2017.01.27 05:21:29 - [337] - Quote Zaha Koto wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Zaha Koto wrote: Basically Code supporters have donated 1T+ to James315 in exchange for content over and above that which is available to the entire Eve player base. Brilliant doesn't even to begin to describe them. Fixed that for you You are possibly the dumbest person I have ever known. You just aren't in touch with reality Haha, autocorrect got you again. It inserted "dumbest" into your post. It gets me all the time too. That always happens when I post on my smurfdumper. Got to watch for that!
Dom Arkaral Axios 826	Posted - 2017.01.27 10:30:39 - [338] - Quote Zaha Koto wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Zaha Koto wrote: Basically Code supporters have donated 1T+ to James315 in exchange for content over and above that which is available to the entire Eve player base. Brilliant doesn't even to begin to describe them. Fixed that for you You are possibly the nicest person I have ever known. You just are just nice beyond belief Fixed that for you again I think I'm hitting that big nerve if you go low trying to insult me little Nitshe You want to do low blows, you'll stay low alone as I won't follow you there (as I understood ages ago that EVE is a game and that a lot of rp is involved, unlike you apparently) Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome Max Trix Shall Reign!
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4755	Posted - 2017.01.27 10:52:09 - [339] - Quote I totally posed in the wrong thread just now.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4762	Posted - 2017.01.28 02:33:42 - [340] - Quote Also people like my posts even when it's a edited mis-post. That's how hard I forum warrior.

Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3674	Posted - 2017.01.28 04:56:35 - [341] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Also people like my posts even when it's a edited mis-post. That's how hard I forum warrior. Probably and after affect of reading through the ISD epenn thread than that post Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Jacques d'Orleans 2923	Posted - 2017.01.28 08:42:31 - [342] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: does anyone even understand what Nitshe is trying to say at this point? lol Nope, but otoh it's quite hard to write coherent texts while being sedated at Broadmoor Hospital. Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
Pestilen Ratte Artimus Ratte 65	Posted - 2017.01.30 00:20:48 - [343] - Quote Serious question, how does everybody know that the Eve economy runs on player driven supply and demand? I mean, even a little bit. We are told that. It is an "interesting" selling point of the glorious game. A vastly complex market system. But is it, really? I've seen a few trends that make me wonder, wonder very hard. Firstly, where are all the miners? I don't see em. I go ratting, I search low and null sec for anomalies. I don't see any mining fleets at all. Ever. Not except NPC fleets. I'm serious. I have been flying around null sec and low sec systems pretty much every day for weeks and weeks. I have NEVER ONCE seen a mining fleet up. Not a single time. And PI, what about Planetary Industries? I am still doing that out of sheer perverse curiosity about how long I can keep it up. I mean, you are doing THE SAME THING after the first hour. I err. After the first 5 minutes. Then it is the SAAME THING forever. Yay. All you need to do is turn up and do the SAME THING again and again and again...... and spend hours and hours of your time earning, oh, i dunno at least... at LEAST two bucks. At least 2. For about 690 hours of your time. Such good fun. And that i why everyone I know does PI. Yep, PI and mining. The bedrock of this glorious player driven economy. Such great game play, you see folks at it everywhere. So, don't imagine that folks simply buy flex when they feel like spending ten bucks on space pew, and don't for a moment imagine that CCP have repeatedly nerfed mining and industry in an attempt to stop most of their player base avoiding subscriptions by earning isk. No no, it is all player driven. Everything. everything in the sandbox is player driven, and CCP have nothing to do with the mechanics. Seriously, is anybody buying any of this? Is this stuff even credible any more? Is this why Eve is for sale?
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3555	Posted - 2017.01.30 00:47:53 - [344] - Quote Pestilen Ratte wrote: So, don't imagine that folks simply buy flex when they feel like spending ten bucks on space pew, and don't for a moment imagine that CCP have repeatedly nerfed mining and industry in an attempt to stop most of their player base avoiding subscriptions by earning isk. Do you even know how PLEX works? They are more expensive than a normal subscription and all the PLEX you can purchase ingame on the market are put there by people who purchased them from CCP. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 2081	Posted - 2017.01.30 00:59:44 - [345] - Quote Pestilen Ratte wrote: ? So, In all your nullsec wanderings...you apparently didn't go into Russian Space. And SOLAR are notorious renters for null bears. There also happens to be lots of folks who like to mine in wormholes. You DID go to Provi and see the mining corps down there, yes? And there is the lovely moon goo everyone in null lusts for. Sounds to me you didn't go very far at all....... PS Almost nobody mines in low. Three guesses why not. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3704	Posted - 2017.01.30 01:07:07 - [346] - Quote Mike Adoulin wrote: Pestilen Ratte wrote: ? So, In all your nullsec wanderings...you apparently didn't go into Russian Space. And SOLAR are notorious renters for null bears. There also happens to be lots of folks who like to mine in wormholes. You DID go to Provi and see the mining corps down there, yes? And there is the lovely moon goo everyone in null lusts for. Sounds to me you didn't go very far at all....... PS Almost nobody mines in low. Three guesses why not. Clearly didn't go to delve either... I mean the Roequals don't even stop when you enter system Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2017.02.19 15:28:46 - [347] - Quote So, we have been working with alot of things. And what just happend with CODE? Oh oh.
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 333	Posted - 2017.02.19 15:52:29 - [348] - Quote Baexx wrote: So, we have been working with alot of things. And what just happend with CODE? Oh oh. And I suppose you're going to provide proof that your vague actions actually had any sort of involvement with that? It seems extremely unlikely that you were involved. A far more likely scenario is that you saw that CODE was weakened and you swooped in to take the credit. I guess you've moved on from MinerStrike. I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2017.02.19 16:13:01 - [349] - Quote Dark Lord Trump wrote: Baexx wrote: So, we have been working with alot of things. And what just happend with CODE? Oh oh. And I suppose you're going to provide proof that your vague actions actually had any sort of involvement with that? It seems extremely unlikely that you were involved. A far more likely scenario is that you saw that CODE was weakened and you swooped in to take the credit. I guess you've moved on from MinerStrike. Not going to provide you with anything, enough said. All is well in new eden once again when CODE is dying.
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 334	Posted - 2017.02.19 17:43:18 - [350] - Quote Baexx wrote: Dark Lord Trump wrote: Baexx wrote: So, we have been working with alot of things. And what just happend with CODE? Oh oh. And I suppose you're going to provide proof that your vague actions actually had any sort of involvement with that? It seems extremely unlikely that you were involved. A far more likely scenario is that you saw that CODE was weakened and you swooped in to take the credit. I guess you've moved on from MinerStrike. Not going to provide you with anything, enough said. Because you don't have anything. I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!

StonerPhReaK Herb Men 614	Posted - 2017.02.19 18:01:40 - [351] - Quote Dark Lord Trump wrote: Baexx wrote: Dark Lord Trump wrote: Baexx wrote: So, we have been working with alot of things. And what just happend with CODE? Oh oh. And I suppose you're going to provide proof that your vague actions actually had any sort of involvement with that? It seems extremely unlikely that you were involved. A far more likely scenario is that you saw that CODE was weakened and you swooped in to take the credit. I guess you've moved on from MinerStrike. Not going to provide you with anything, enough said. Because you don't have anything. Aww, Tryna claim a little bit of the code theft is so cute. So does this push up the timeline of phase 2? Or are we on phase 3? As an avid supporter and donator to your cause i am eager to hear your actions moving forward. Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Rippy Gurista Highsec Protecting Agency 10	Posted - 2017.02.20 14:38:43 - [352] - Quote Our supporters know and are aware of all that we do, it's not any priority to keep taking to trolls outside our community. We will still keep providing a safe haven for players around New Eden. Code always wins????
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 27711	Posted - 2017.02.20 14:46:14 - [353] - Quote Rippy Gurista wrote: Our supporters know and are aware of all that we do, What's that then? We've seen nothing apart from an overabundance of hot air and a flat out terrible idea. Quote: it's not any priority to keep taking to trolls outside our community. 2 people is not a community, it's a couple. Quote: We will still keep providing a safe haven for players around New Eden. So you live in nullsec and have a large intel network that warns you when "the bads" come calling? Quote: Code always wins???? You're talking about them, they win. In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
goducko musagumba Republic University Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2017.02.20 17:37:21 - [354] - Quote I hear a lot about the 'rules'. - If Eve is supposed to be a sandbox, and 'when you undock you consent to pvp', etc, Making a character flashing red 'flagged' for a time period of 6 months or even permanently for ganking in hisec will be a REAL example of 'sandbox' behavior and consequences. similarly, looting flags you yellow for 30 days. You will have to live with your decisions forever., and it will follow you no matter what corp you go to. unless the gankers are really rich, they will run out of characters to run at some point. Even if not, it will slow the ganking down quite a bit - and send them out to low or null sec where they can try to gank all they want.
Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 938	Posted - 2017.02.20 17:59:34 - [355] - Quote goducko musagumba wrote: I hear a lot about the 'rules'. - If Eve is supposed to be a sandbox, and 'when you undock you consent to pvp', etc, Making a character flashing red 'flagged' for a time period of 6 months or even permanently for ganking in hisec will be a REAL example of 'sandbox' behavior and consequences. similarly, looting flags you yellow for 30 days. You will have to live with your decisions forever., and it will follow you no matter what corp you go to. unless the gankers are really rich, they will run out of characters to run at some point. Even if not, it will slow the ganking down quite a bit - and send them out to low or null sec where they can try to gank all they want. wat Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Tig Shnifer Aliastra Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2017.02.20 19:18:16 - [356] - Quote goducko musagumba wrote: I hear a lot about the 'rules'. - Making a character flashing red 'flagged' for a time period of 6 months or even permanently for ganking in hisec will be a REAL example of 'sandbox' behavior and consequences. similarly, looting flags you yellow for 30 days. unless the gankers are really rich, they will run out of characters to run at some point. Even if not, it will slow the ganking down quite a bit - and send them out to low or null sec where they can try to gank all they want. Once again, we have ideas that will do very little to gankers but will, ironically, screw up the people you're trying to protect. -5 or below are shootable by anyone at any time, and many gankers are -5 or below. "Looting makes you suspect for 30 days." Oh wow how many ways could that be exploited. Most of the people I see looting wrecks they don't own in highsec are newbies making an income. And you wanna make them shootable by all for 30 days. Uh huh. And CODE. gankers are rich. With an SRP and loot they get from freighters the affect on them will be minimal. The affect on everyone else however will be not be.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3808	Posted - 2017.02.20 21:50:19 - [357] - Quote goducko musagumba wrote: I hear a lot about the 'rules'. - If Eve is supposed to be a sandbox, and 'when you undock you consent to pvp', etc, Making a character flashing red 'flagged' for a time period of 6 months or even permanently for ganking in hisec will be a REAL example of 'sandbox' behavior and consequences. similarly, looting flags you yellow for 30 days. You will have to live with your decisions forever., and it will follow you no matter what corp you go to. unless the gankers are really rich, they will run out of characters to run at some point. Even if not, it will slow the ganking down quite a bit - and send them out to low or null sec where they can try to gank all they want. Can I get a translation please? I don't speak whatever dialect this is Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
goducko musagumba Republic University Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2017.02.21 01:36:08 - [358] - Quote translation? the gankers are pirates - they flash red after the first gank. and stay that way.
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 337	Posted - 2017.02.21 01:43:04 - [359] - Quote goducko musagumba wrote: translation? the gankers are pirates - they flash red after the first gank. and stay that way. So... are you suggesting that anyone who ganks in hisec immediately gets their sec status locked to -5.0? Or that they receive a permanent criminal timer? Both are stupid ideas, although the second is exponentially dumber than the first. We already have consequences for our actions in the sandbox, illegally aggressing someone in hisec results in the destruction of your ship and a kill right. This is a PvP sandbox, CCP shouldn't be thinking of ways to make hisec even safer. I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
goducko musagumba Republic University Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2017.02.21 02:17:56 - [360] - Quote Oh, sorry, - I forgot YOU get to tell ccp what they should and shouldnt do. and your friends in code threw me a bounty - LOL

Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 939	Posted - 2017.02.21 02:29:35 - [361] - Quote maybe they should give perma-criminal status to every idiot making even more idiotic suggestions like yours goducko... EVE would definitely be a better place then Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 27719	Posted - 2017.02.21 02:30:58 - [362] - Quote goducko musagumba wrote: translation? the gankers are pirates - they flash red after the first gank. and stay that way. Do you think that would bother them? Think again. For gankers being flashy red is a badge of honour; most are quite happy to operate with -5 to -10 sec status. Your suggestion shows ignorance of the mechanics in play, underestimates the target audience and more importantly, changes absolutely nothing whatsoever in terms of how much ganking will occur. In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Omar Alharazaad Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 3254	Posted - 2017.02.21 08:05:48 - [363] - Quote The thought of a thirty day suspect timer makes me moister than an oyster. Sometimes it's hard to go flashy yellow, especially when there's warybears in abundance. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3816	Posted - 2017.02.21 10:03:00 - [364] - Quote goducko musagumba wrote: translation? the gankers are pirates - they flash red after the first gank. and stay that way. This is undoubtedly one of the worst ideas I've heard and it is game breaking. Do you know how many newbeans experiment with the safety settings in their first days??? I don't know about anybody else but if I got locked out of highsec for 30 days and not just 15 mins for that experiement I would not have continued playing. Go back and rethink your idea (actually scrap it) and come back with something that wouldn't outright destroy eve by strangling off it's new player base Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Kaely Tanniss OMGWTFBBQTIME I Know Right 726	Posted - 2017.02.21 10:07:01 - [365] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: goducko musagumba wrote: translation? the gankers are pirates - they flash red after the first gank. and stay that way. This is undoubtedly one of the worst ideas I've heard and it is game breaking. Do you know how many newbeans experiment with the safety settings in their first days??? I don't know about anybody else but if I got locked out of highsec for 30 days and not just 15 mins for that experiement I would not have continued playing. Go back and rethink your idea (actually scrap it) and come back with something that wouldn't outright destroy eve by strangling off it's new player base I second this..poorly thought out, if any thought at all was given to it.. If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Lucas Lucias Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 41	Posted - 2017.02.21 11:14:52 - [366] - Quote goducko musagumba wrote: Oh, sorry, - I forgot YOU get to tell ccp what they should and shouldnt do. and your friends in code threw me a bounty - LOL Some people gank gankers scouts and there is the option to gank the bumper, your idea would make this a bit more painful. The one we thought best without screwing the game over was no access to NPC stations for -10 characters, forcing the use of Citadels and thus enabling a strategy of forcing citadel owners to exclude them, thereby forcing the gankers to have to run their own which they do, but more importantly giving real strategic reasons to blow them up and creating content and perhaps more muscular hisec entities. But anyway....
Omar Alharazaad Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 3255	Posted - 2017.02.21 11:39:43 - [367] - Quote aside from the reasons listed I'll simply add that my hobby requires me to be suspect to get any hot blaster sexytime going on. usually this is accomplished by liberating a metal scrap or two, or dry humping someone's space dumpster. People who're wise to this kind of activity will often set their wrecks to blue and/or scoop the dumpster up as soon as someone lands in their pocket. This means working for that sweet sweet loving. The notion of a 30 day suspect timer would eliminate all that work, making things much easier for me. Worse for others, it would also create uncontrolled suspect hijinks. I know this may sound weird, but most people don't shoot the flashy guy unprovoked. The ones who do tend to fall into two categories. The first is of course other violent minded folks, who really do constitute a tiny minority of the population in high sec. The other is those pilots who do not know any better. Nooblets. Younglings. Spots on their fur and velvet on their cute little button antlers. In other words, targets I would generally ignore because there's usually little profit in sploding them... but if I'm engaged by them you can bet your last isk I'm gonna give em the badtouch. So yeah, think of the children man. THE CHILDREN! Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 944	Posted - 2017.02.21 12:18:33 - [368] - Quote Lucas Lucias wrote: goducko musagumba wrote: Oh, sorry, - I forgot YOU get to tell ccp what they should and shouldnt do. and your friends in code threw me a bounty - LOL Some people gank gankers scouts and there is the option to gank the bumper, your idea would make this a bit more painful. The one we thought best without screwing the game over was no access to NPC stations for -10 characters, forcing the use of Citadels and thus enabling a strategy of forcing citadel owners to exclude them, thereby forcing the gankers to have to run their own which they do, but more importantly giving real strategic reasons to blow them up and creating content and perhaps more muscular hisec entities. But anyway.... you seem to forget not only highsec gankers are -10.0 toons it'll be a coding nightmare to restrict access to -10 in HS but not in LS or npc null ;) but I bet you thought about that hmm? Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Lady Ayeipsia Perkone Caldari State 1335	Posted - 2017.02.21 12:23:00 - [369] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Lucas Lucias wrote: goducko musagumba wrote: Oh, sorry, - I forgot YOU get to tell ccp what they should and shouldnt do. and your friends in code threw me a bounty - LOL Some people gank gankers scouts and there is the option to gank the bumper, your idea would make this a bit more painful. The one we thought best without screwing the game over was no access to NPC stations for -10 characters, forcing the use of Citadels and thus enabling a strategy of forcing citadel owners to exclude them, thereby forcing the gankers to have to run their own which they do, but more importantly giving real strategic reasons to blow them up and creating content and perhaps more muscular hisec entities. But anyway.... you seem to forget not only highsec gankers are -10.0 toons it'll be a coding nightmare to restrict access to -10 in HS but not in LS or npc null ;) but I bet you thought about that hmm? Why would an if/then statement be a nightmare to code. The variables and gets already have to be in place given that concord, the flagging system, mission rewards, and security hits already take system security into consideration. I'm not saying I agree with restricting access, but I do not think coding it would be that overly difficult.
1Lt Aldo Raine The Inglourious Bastards 37	Posted - 2017.02.22 17:58:45 - [370] - Quote I agree with my esteemed colleague, Dracvlad. Also, the absolute best way (and possibly only way) to help fight ganking is to get involved in that fight. Get yourself to the anti-ganking channel. Roll a anti-ganker alt, start training in ECM, and sign up for the High Sec Militia.

Serendipity Lost Repo Industries 2510	Posted - 2017.02.22 19:48:38 - [371] - Quote Just bump the bumping mach - that's the best plan. Don't wait for the mach to start bumping something either. If you see a mach loitering on a Niarja gate - start bumping it. Bump bump bump. Then bump some more. It's easy, no sec status hits and it will drive them crazy. Get a few of your own machs, fit for bumping and have at it. BUMP BUMP BUMP. You guys are making this way to difficult. The ECM burst route is a big hassle and code can drag your ECM alts to -10 in no time. Then you have to work their sec status up OR risk the alt recycling route (not advisable). bump bump bump
Lucas Lucias Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 47	Posted - 2017.02.22 20:07:03 - [372] - Quote Serendipity Lost wrote: Just bump the bumping mach - that's the best plan. Don't wait for the mach to start bumping something either. If you see a mach loitering on a Niarja gate - start bumping it. Bump bump bump. Then bump some more. It's easy, no sec status hits and it will drive them crazy. Get a few of your own machs, fit for bumping and have at it. BUMP BUMP BUMP. You guys are making this way to difficult. The ECM burst route is a big hassle and code can drag your ECM alts to -10 in no time. Then you have to work their sec status up OR risk the alt recycling route (not advisable). bump bump bump Miss miss miss...
1Lt Aldo Raine The Inglourious Bastards 38	Posted - 2017.02.22 22:03:43 - [373] - Quote Serendipity Lost wrote: Just bump the bumping mach - that's the best plan. Don't wait for the mach to start bumping something either. If you see a mach loitering on a Niarja gate - start bumping it. Bump bump bump. Then bump some more. It's easy, no sec status hits and it will drive them crazy. Get a few of your own machs, fit for bumping and have at it. BUMP BUMP BUMP. You guys are making this way to difficult. The ECM burst route is a big hassle and code can drag your ECM alts to -10 in no time. Then you have to work their sec status up OR risk the alt recycling route (not advisable). bump bump bump I don't want to hijack the thread. But your absolutely right. Counter bumping works, and we have some sweet videos to prove it. That being said there is a time and a place for different tactics. The human shields that Jason was using, we've found a solution to it, and recycling is not it.
Sasha Nemtsov New Order Logistics CODE. 490	Posted - 2017.02.22 22:24:44 - [374] - Quote Serendipity Lost wrote: Get a few of your own machs, fit for bumping and have at it. BUMP BUMP BUMP. Hi Serendipity; although the Machariel isn't a fantastically long train, the Highsec carebear-would-be-anti-gankers are not going to divert 'valuable' training time away from their mining yield-focused efforts. As usual, they'll leave it to someone else - the dedicated anti-ganker, no doubt; and there seem to be pitifully few of those around. This is no doubt because, unlike Code Enforcement, anti-ganking as a profession poses a singularly unattractive prospect to someone looking for meaningful gameplay with a reasonable chance of success. How about using a re-purposed Orca?
Serendipity Lost Repo Industries 2513	Posted - 2017.02.23 14:43:47 - [375] - Quote Sasha Nemtsov wrote: Serendipity Lost wrote: Get a few of your own machs, fit for bumping and have at it. BUMP BUMP BUMP. Hi Serendipity; although the Machariel isn't a fantastically long train, the Highsec carebear-would-be-anti-gankers are not going to divert 'valuable' training time away from their mining yield-focused efforts. As usual, they'll leave it to someone else - the dedicated anti-ganker, no doubt; and there seem to be pitifully few of those around. This is no doubt because, unlike Code Enforcement, anti-ganking as a profession poses a singularly unattractive prospect to someone looking for meaningful gameplay with a reasonable chance of success. How about using a re-purposed Orca? I'm just putting tools in the box. I don't really care if anyone uses them. True story, one of my guys (probably a year and a half back) was transporting way too much stuff in an orca. A mach got on to him in niarja and started bumping him. Lucky for him he was not afk and was on comms. He alerted us (the rest of the corp) and we dropped everything and started burning to his aid. I think our closest out route (we be wh folk) was a LS 20 or so jumps out. We brought what we could and after 20 minutes from the 'help me help me!' call - we got him on his way safely. What we learned. Once bumping starts no amount of webbing can get the guy into warp if the bumping mach pilot has any skill at all. We had up to 10 webs on the guy (several of which were 90% via ship bonus and all of which were faction). I won't bore anyone w/ the mechanics details and why webs just don't work once the bumping is in progress - it doesn't. So, when webbing proved useless we turned to bumping the mach. We didn't have bumping machs to counter (why would we??). What we had were a collection of frigates and huggins. We turned to the bumping mach and started hammering away at it. As a few posts above pointed out, there where quite a few misses. We finally got a bump on him while he was turning and the tables turned instantly as he became the beach ball and we became the players carelessly tossing him across the way. Just that one good bump to get him going and we owned him. Our orca pilot was on his way and we threw a few salutes in local and that was that. I don't expect most corps to perform as above. To be fair, wh folk are forever bumping each other off of wh to prevent jump through (advanced non K-space pvp doesn't have aggression timers on wh - it's a different sort of timer involved), so bumping folks out of wh jump range is pretty common. In general, we're pretty good at it do to lots of practice. I would wager the average k-space corp doesn't have the experience, so mach bumping may not be as easy for them. Summary - bumping works. Mach bumping works. If folks just as a normal practice bumped any mach loitering on a gate or in the process of bumping something big - Eve would be a great place. In my ideal Eve everyone passing through a gate and seeing a mach would give it a bump or two. Anyone seeing a mach bumping a freighter/orca/whatever would join in the bumping for a few minutes (and I don't care who they bump, just get involved a bit). Many great relationships both in and out of Eve have begun with a simple bump. Everyone should give it a go from time to time. To the gates lads - bump bump bump. It gets easier as you get experience at it.
Lucas Lucias Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 47	Posted - 2017.02.24 16:10:48 - [376] - Quote Serendipity Lost wrote: Sasha Nemtsov wrote: Serendipity Lost wrote: Get a few of your own machs, fit for bumping and have at it. BUMP BUMP BUMP. Hi Serendipity; although the Machariel isn't a fantastically long train, the Highsec carebear-would-be-anti-gankers are not going to divert 'valuable' training time away from their mining yield-focused efforts. As usual, they'll leave it to someone else - the dedicated anti-ganker, no doubt; and there seem to be pitifully few of those around. This is no doubt because, unlike Code Enforcement, anti-ganking as a profession poses a singularly unattractive prospect to someone looking for meaningful gameplay with a reasonable chance of success. How about using a re-purposed Orca? I'm just putting tools in the box. I don't really care if anyone uses them. True story, one of my guys (probably a year and a half back) was transporting way too much stuff in an orca. A mach got on to him in niarja and started bumping him. Lucky for him he was not afk and was on comms. He alerted us (the rest of the corp) and we dropped everything and started burning to his aid. I think our closest out route (we be wh folk) was a LS 20 or so jumps out. We brought what we could and after 20 minutes from the 'help me help me!' call - we got him on his way safely. What we learned. Once bumping starts no amount of webbing can get the guy into warp if the bumping mach pilot has any skill at all. We had up to 10 webs on the guy (several of which were 90% via ship bonus and all of which were faction). I won't bore anyone w/ the mechanics details and why webs just don't work once the bumping is in progress - it doesn't. So, when webbing proved useless we turned to bumping the mach. We didn't have bumping machs to counter (why would we??). What we had were a collection of frigates and huggins. We turned to the bumping mach and started hammering away at it. As a few posts above pointed out, there where quite a few misses. We finally got a bump on him while he was turning and the tables turned instantly as he became the beach ball and we became the players carelessly tossing him across the way. Just that one good bump to get him going and we owned him. Our orca pilot was on his way and we threw a few salutes in local and that was that. I don't expect most corps to perform as above. To be fair, wh folk are forever bumping each other off of wh to prevent jump through (advanced non K-space pvp doesn't have aggression timers on wh - it's a different sort of timer involved), so bumping folks out of wh jump range is pretty common. In general, we're pretty good at it do to lots of practice. I would wager the average k-space corp doesn't have the experience, so mach bumping may not be as easy for them. Summary - bumping works. Mach bumping works. If folks just as a normal practice bumped any mach loitering on a gate or in the process of bumping something big - Eve would be a great place. In my ideal Eve everyone passing through a gate and seeing a mach would give it a bump or two. Anyone seeing a mach bumping a freighter/orca/whatever would join in the bumping for a few minutes (and I don't care who they bump, just get involved a bit). Many great relationships both in and out of Eve have begun with a simple bump. Everyone should give it a go from time to time. To the gates lads - bump bump bump. It gets easier as you get experience at it. Good post would read again, actually I did.
Janeos GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 86	Posted - 2017.02.26 02:17:43 - [377] - Quote Serendipity Lost wrote: Sasha Nemtsov wrote: Serendipity Lost wrote: Get a few of your own machs, fit for bumping and have at it. BUMP BUMP BUMP. Hi Serendipity; although the Machariel isn't a fantastically long train, the Highsec carebear-would-be-anti-gankers are not going to divert 'valuable' training time away from their mining yield-focused efforts. As usual, they'll leave it to someone else - the dedicated anti-ganker, no doubt; and there seem to be pitifully few of those around. This is no doubt because, unlike Code Enforcement, anti-ganking as a profession poses a singularly unattractive prospect to someone looking for meaningful gameplay with a reasonable chance of success. How about using a re-purposed Orca? ... I'm just putting tools in the box. I don't really care if anyone uses them. I don't expect most corps to perform as above. To be fair, wh folk are forever bumping each other off of wh to prevent jump through (advanced non K-space pvp doesn't have aggression timers on wh - it's a different sort of timer involved), so bumping folks out of wh jump range is pretty common. In general, we're pretty good at it do to lots of practice. I would wager the average k-space corp doesn't have the experience, so mach bumping may not be as easy for them. ... I don't think you're aware how much more advanced your understanding of this game is from the average high-sec pubbie.
BJBee 9999 Suddenly Seamen. A Naval Charity 0	Posted - 2017.02.26 02:57:07 - [378] - Quote wow, do you guys hate kids? we are ganking for kids and you going on and doing that! wow, you are very bad people.
Lawrence Lawton The Conference Elite CODE. 75	Posted - 2017.02.26 20:50:56 - [379] - Quote There are many excellent counters for bumping and ganking. Most of them require being prepared and having a support network. Carebears who play EVE like a solo game fail here.
Keno Skir 1343	Posted - 2017.03.07 17:25:41 - [380] - Quote OP : You and all your little anti ganking friends don't enough ISK to have a meaningful effect of the mineral market in Hisec so stop pretending. Using the forums to make yoru organization appear bigger and better organized than it really is makes you a bit like CODE. except they do it in an interesting way <Gùï> 250,000 Bonus SP when you start an Alpha Clone HERE <Gùï> <Gùï> Contact me regarding my trusted Alliance Creation Service <Gùï>

Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 138	Posted - 2017.03.08 04:36:44 - [381] - Quote Lawrence Lawton wrote: There are many excellent counters for bumping and ganking. Most of them require being prepared and having a support network. Carebears who play EVE like a solo game fail here. shut up...code is dead...move on already. code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2017.03.09 20:13:25 - [382] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Lawrence Lawton wrote: There are many excellent counters for bumping and ganking. Most of them require being prepared and having a support network. Carebears who play EVE like a solo game fail here. shut up...code is dead...move on already. New Eden is quite remarkable nowdays, i wonder why.
Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 1016	Posted - 2017.03.09 20:45:50 - [383] - Quote Baexx wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Lawrence Lawton wrote: There are many excellent counters for bumping and ganking. Most of them require being prepared and having a support network. Carebears who play EVE like a solo game fail here. shut up...code is dead...move on already. New Eden is quite remarkable nowdays, i wonder why. How's your "we will buy every minerals in every hub thing doing? Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3875	Posted - 2017.03.09 21:29:22 - [384] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Baexx wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Lawrence Lawton wrote: There are many excellent counters for bumping and ganking. Most of them require being prepared and having a support network. Carebears who play EVE like a solo game fail here. shut up...code is dead...move on already. New Eden is quite remarkable nowdays, i wonder why. How's your "we will buy every minerals in every hub thing doing? As well as predicted if market data is anything to go off. And by predicted I mean predicted by the 'trolls' Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Baexx Highsec Protecting Agency 0	Posted - 2017.03.10 06:25:53 - [385] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Baexx wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Lawrence Lawton wrote: There are many excellent counters for bumping and ganking. Most of them require being prepared and having a support network. Carebears who play EVE like a solo game fail here. shut up...code is dead...move on already. New Eden is quite remarkable nowdays, i wonder why. How's your "we will buy every minerals in every hub thing doing? The miners in New Eden is a bit safer now, and that is a milestone.
Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 1016	Posted - 2017.03.10 10:24:46 - [386] - Quote Baexx wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Baexx wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Lawrence Lawton wrote: There are many excellent counters for bumping and ganking. Most of them require being prepared and having a support network. Carebears who play EVE like a solo game fail here. shut up...code is dead...move on already. New Eden is quite remarkable nowdays, i wonder why. How's your "we will buy every minerals in every hub thing doing? The miners in New Eden is a bit safer now, and that is a milestone. How so? Lmao Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Keno Skir 1356	Posted - 2017.03.10 10:53:19 - [387] - Quote Baexx wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Baexx wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Lawrence Lawton wrote: There are many excellent counters for bumping and ganking. Most of them require being prepared and having a support network. Carebears who play EVE like a solo game fail here. shut up...code is dead...move on already. New Eden is quite remarkable nowdays, i wonder why. How's your "we will buy every minerals in every hub thing doing? The miners in New Eden is a bit safer now, and that is a milestone. Wut? No they aren't you've done nothing aside from squawk on the forums <Gùï> 250,000 Bonus SP when you start an Alpha Clone HERE <Gùï> <Gùï> Contact me regarding my trusted Alliance Creation Service <Gùï>
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3735	Posted - 2017.03.10 18:30:12 - [388] - Quote It's the old AG strategy of just pretending CODE. is dead. Works only until you undock your Hulk. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 144	Posted - 2017.03.11 00:02:56 - [389] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: It's the old AG strategy of just pretending CODE. is dead. Works only until you undock your Hulk. Been afk mining ALL day. code is dead shut up already loser code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 28003	Posted - 2017.03.11 01:03:46 - [390] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: It's the old AG strategy of just pretending CODE. is dead. Works only until you undock your Hulk. Been afk mining ALL day. code is dead shut up already loser You've already admitted that your claims to afk mining are a lie elsewhere. You keep repeating the same tired old shtick and to be frank, it's 'king boring. Kindly fornicate in the general direction of off to a venue more suited to your obviously limited talent, Reddit for example. In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack

Jacques d'Orleans 2974	Posted - 2017.03.11 11:23:38 - [391] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Been afk mining ALL day. code is dead shut up already loser Nithse calm down! Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 2126	Posted - 2017.03.11 22:05:53 - [392] - Quote Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Nithse calm down! It's spelled "Nitsche". Just block the idiot, that way you never see its posts. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 145	Posted - 2017.03.12 00:59:46 - [393] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: It's the old AG strategy of just pretending CODE. is dead. Works only until you undock your Hulk. Been afk mining ALL day. code is dead shut up already loser You've already admitted elsewhere that your claims to afk mining are a lie. You keep repeating the same tired old shtick and to be frank, it's 'king boring. Kindly fornicate in the general direction of off to a venue more suited to your obviously limited talents, Reddit for example. 6 YOU!!! code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 145	Posted - 2017.03.12 01:00:40 - [394] - Quote Mike Adoulin wrote: Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Nithse calm down! It's spelled "Nitsche". Just block the idiot, that way you never see its posts. and 6 you too!! code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 28008	Posted - 2017.03.12 05:54:29 - [395] - Quote 6? This post brought to you by the Portuguese subsidiary of Wat?Gäó. A trademark of Jim Era Interstellar. In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Jacques d'Orleans 2975	Posted - 2017.03.12 08:28:19 - [396] - Quote Mike Adoulin wrote: Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Nithse calm down! It's spelled "Nitsche". Just block the idiot, that way you never see its posts. I had some hard Restfettn while typing his name ( Restfettn = Hangover). Why blocking him? He's one of the best salt and tears deliverer right now. Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
Jacques d'Orleans 2975	Posted - 2017.03.12 08:31:46 - [397] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: 6? This post brought to you by the Portuguese subsidiary of Wat?Gäó. A trademark of Jim Era Interstellar. !!!! Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.13 16:16:54 - [398] - Quote a, b, c, d, e, F 6th letter sO 6 you ! code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 1025	Posted - 2017.03.13 17:08:04 - [399] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: a, b, c, d, e, F 6th letter sO 6 you ! Miner, calm down Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 28025	Posted - 2017.03.13 19:47:13 - [400] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: a, b, c, d, e, F 6th letter sO 6 you ! Oh I get it now. Does mummy know that you play adult games? In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack

Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.14 00:18:52 - [401] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: a, b, c, d, e, F 6th letter sO 6 you ! Miner, calm down awww sweetie, I know you are touched in the head. I will give you a little slack not remembering that I once told you I have never mined an ounce of ore in Eve. Now sweetie...calm down and toss my salad. code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.14 00:19:42 - [402] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: a, b, c, d, e, F 6th letter sO 6 you ! Oh I get it now. Does mummy know that you play adult games? Adult games....wiki hazel tucker ... 4 head. code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 422	Posted - 2017.03.14 00:53:31 - [403] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: awww sweetie, I know you are touched in the head. I will give you a little slack not remembering that I once told you I have never mined an ounce of ore in Eve. Now sweetie...calm down and toss my salad. Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Been afk mining ALL day. code is dead shut up already loser :thinking: I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.14 01:02:38 - [404] - Quote Dark Lord Trump wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: awww sweetie, I know you are touched in the head. I will give you a little slack not remembering that I once told you I have never mined an ounce of ore in Eve. Now sweetie...calm down and toss my salad. Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Been afk mining ALL day. code is dead shut up already loser :thinking: Its called shinin' you on code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Jacques d'Orleans 2979	Posted - 2017.03.14 01:44:27 - [405] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Dark Lord Trump wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: awww sweetie, I know you are touched in the head. I will give you a little slack not remembering that I once told you I have never mined an ounce of ore in Eve. Now sweetie...calm down and toss my salad. Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Been afk mining ALL day. code is dead shut up already loser :thinking: Its called shinin' you on Shining and you, well, contradiction in terms, ain't it? Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.14 23:20:09 - [406] - Quote Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Dark Lord Trump wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: awww sweetie, I know you are touched in the head. I will give you a little slack not remembering that I once told you I have never mined an ounce of ore in Eve. Now sweetie...calm down and toss my salad. Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Been afk mining ALL day. code is dead shut up already loser :thinking: Its called shinin' you on Shining and you, well, contradiction in terms, ain't it? calm down bloated veteran code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Jacques d'Orleans 2983	Posted - 2017.03.15 00:35:46 - [407] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: calm down bloated veteran That's it? And i thought you had trained "Salt Overflow V". Amateur. Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3890	Posted - 2017.03.15 01:51:00 - [408] - Quote Mike Adoulin wrote: Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Nithse calm down! It's spelled "Nitsche". Just block the idiot, that way you never see its posts. No it's not. Nitshe is right. The original and only Nitshe (all the others are simply his alts attempting to make you all believe he is no longer a threat to all of new eden) Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3744	Posted - 2017.03.15 08:55:33 - [409] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: It's the old AG strategy of just pretending CODE. is dead. Works only until you undock your Hulk. Been afk mining ALL day. code is dead shut up already loser Calm down miner It's actually impossible to know if your ship is still in one piece do to the Heisenbarge AFK effect. Cutting edge New Order science. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Hiasa Kite Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 532	Posted - 2017.03.15 12:12:28 - [410] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Heisenbarge AFK effect My sides have achieved orbit. <^.^> I'm a cat lol

Keno Skir 1384	Posted - 2017.03.15 15:22:12 - [411] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Dark Lord Trump wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: awww sweetie, I know you are touched in the head. I will give you a little slack not remembering that I once told you I have never mined an ounce of ore in Eve. Now sweetie...calm down and toss my salad. Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Been afk mining ALL day. code is dead shut up already loser :thinking: Shining and you, well, contradiction in terms, ain't it? calm down bloated veteran Literally everyone here is calmer than you. Show me on the doll where the nasty ganker touched you : Gùï-\|-< <Gùï> 250,000 Bonus SP when you start an Alpha Clone HERE <Gùï> <Gùï> Contact me regarding my trusted Alliance Creation Service <Gùï>
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.15 15:42:18 - [412] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: It's the old AG strategy of just pretending CODE. is dead. Works only until you undock your Hulk. Been afk mining ALL day. code is dead shut up already loser Calm down miner It's actually impossible to know if your ship is still in one piece do to the Heisenbarge AFK effect. Cutting edge New Order science. for all you code people that are touched in the head I will repeat. I have never mined an ounce of ore in eve..... code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3745	Posted - 2017.03.15 15:50:22 - [413] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: It's the old AG strategy of just pretending CODE. is dead. Works only until you undock your Hulk. Been afk mining ALL day. code is dead shut up already loser Calm down miner It's actually impossible to know if your ship is still in one piece do to the Heisenbarge AFK effect. Cutting edge New Order science. for all you code people that are touched in the head I will repeat. I have never mined an ounce of ore in eve..... We know Hazel, we know. It is a general rule, if a miner tells you he is AFK mining and the New Order has no impact on his op, he is either not mining or his killboard is filled with dead exhumers. So you are no exception, just a normal miner who has yet to accept our superiority and drop his cute but effectively completely pointless little rebellion. It's just a question of time actually. I'm positive that we can soon get your papers in order. Our Agents are standing by to receive the 10mil ISK with your permit request. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.15 15:54:15 - [414] - Quote Literally everyone here is calmer than you. Show me on the doll where the nasty ganker touched you : I just think it is fun to fire back at any code 6ucker that responds. FYI I started eve (2008) back before the bloated vets started flowing tears about any game changes. I never had a mining ship, I liked cladari ships and worked to get a CNR for missions, then later a Navy Abaddon. When CCP did this freebie starter thing to patch the hulls of the titanic I started this character. Soon I remembered how boring just flying around doing missions was and just use this char to bust codes balls....just because. I have never been ganked, in fact all I ever did was missions and some station trading. Eve is far too boring to take seriously let alone waste my time actually playing. Thanks for asking and im holding my chemically reduced scrotum in your honor. code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.15 15:56:34 - [415] - Quote It's just a question of time actually. I'm positive that we can soon get your papers in order. Our Agents are standing by to receive the 10mil ISK with your permit request.[/quote] aww sweetie, I dont have 10m, in fact on this "starter" character I have never even completed the opening missions after you first dock. I only have the starter ship. So sorry to burst yout bubble. How bout you toss my salad for old times sake ?? Hey MOD (s) I think it is time you close this code dead horse beating, what do y'all think??? code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3894	Posted - 2017.03.15 16:16:29 - [416] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Literally everyone here is calmer than you. Show me on the doll where the nasty ganker touched you : I just think it is fun to fire back at any code 6ucker that responds. FYI I started eve (2008) back before the bloated vets started flowing tears about any game changes. I never had a mining ship, I liked cladari ships and worked to get a CNR for missions, then later a Navy Abaddon. When CCP did this freebie starter thing to patch the hulls of the titanic I started this character. Soon I remembered how boring just flying around doing missions was and just use this char to bust codes balls....just because. I have never been ganked, in fact all I ever did was missions and some station trading. Eve is far too boring to take seriously let alone waste my time actually playing. Thanks for asking and im holding my chemically reduced scrotum in your honor. actually this sums up a lot of points quite nicely. Eve PvE is terrible and people should get to experience PvP asap. This is where enterprising individuals in highsec play an invaluable part in player retention Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.15 16:28:01 - [417] - Quote [/quote] actually this sums up a lot of points quite nicely. Eve PvE is terrible and people should get to experience PvP asap. This is where enterprising individuals in highsec play an invaluable part in player retention[/quote] I wasn't a hardcore player with my life devoted to the game. Eve was just someplace to kill an hour or two and play a game, I was a big star wars galaxies player. In fact I did allot of PVP in SWG and was a rebel general in the gcw's with allot of pvp kills. Eve just didnt hold my attention simply because of being stuck in a ship pressing buttons. code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3894	Posted - 2017.03.15 17:11:47 - [418] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: actually this sums up a lot of points quite nicely. Eve PvE is terrible and people should get to experience PvP asap. This is where enterprising individuals in highsec play an invaluable part in player retention[/quote] I wasn't a hardcore player with my life devoted to the game. Eve was just someplace to kill an hour or two and play a game, I was a big star wars galaxies player. In fact I did allot of PVP in SWG and was a rebel general in the gcw's with allot of pvp kills. Eve just didnt hold my attention simply because of being stuck in a ship pressing buttons.[/quote] Having no meaningful interaction with another human in a mmo. It wouldn't be for me either Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 28036	Posted - 2017.03.15 17:41:02 - [419] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Having no meaningful interaction with another human in a mmo. It wouldn't be for me either A wise man once said that Eve is an MMO and playing an MMO by yourself is like masturbating in the middle of an orgy. In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Danks Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds 148	Posted - 2017.03.15 18:03:08 - [420] - Quote Hey if you want Code to be gone and soon forgotten, maybe not have a reference to them in your signature? Just a thought.

Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 1040	Posted - 2017.03.15 20:02:44 - [421] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Navy Abaddon. top kek Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Hiasa Kite Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 533	Posted - 2017.03.15 22:38:55 - [422] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Having no meaningful interaction with another human in a mmo. It wouldn't be for me either A wise man once said that Eve is an MMO, and playing an MMO by yourself is like masturbating in the middle of an orgy. New signature achieved. Thank you. "Playing an MMO by yourself is like masturbating in the middle of an orgy." -Jonah Gravenstein
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 28042	Posted - 2017.03.15 22:56:18 - [423] - Quote Hiasa Kite wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Having no meaningful interaction with another human in a mmo. It wouldn't be for me either A wise man once said that Eve is an MMO, and playing an MMO by yourself is like masturbating in the middle of an orgy. New signature achieved. Thank you. I can't take credit for that In addition... I'm a solo player. FML In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Jacques d'Orleans 2990	Posted - 2017.03.16 00:35:14 - [424] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Literally everyone here is calmer than you. Show me on the doll where the nasty ganker touched you : I just think it is fun to fire back at any code 6ucker that responds. FYI I started eve (2008) back before the bloated vets started flowing tears about any game changes. I never had a mining ship, I liked cladari ships and worked to get a CNR for missions, then later a Navy Abaddon. When CCP did this freebie starter thing to patch the hulls of the titanic I started this character. Soon I remembered how boring just flying around doing missions was and just use this char to bust codes balls....just because. I have never been ganked, in fact all I ever did was missions and some station trading. Eve is far too boring to take seriously let alone waste my time actually playing. Thanks for asking and im holding my chemically reduced scrotum in your honor. Cool story, bro, but now take my order and bring me a beer. Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 2136	Posted - 2017.03.16 01:58:13 - [425] - Quote And wings. Beer goes better with wings. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.16 03:08:19 - [426] - Quote [/quote] Cool story, bro, but now take my order and bring me a beer. [/quote] Toss my salad 4ick code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Jacques d'Orleans 2990	Posted - 2017.03.16 03:19:41 - [427] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Toss my salad 4ick As Mister Adoulin already said: WINGS!, an Iteron Mk V full of! We're hungry! And don't forget the sauce, again! And no, no salad, punk. Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
Sivar Ahishatsu Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2017.03.16 03:33:49 - [428] - Quote This is an interesting thread. I applaud the stance the OP is taking. However I am afraid that this is not enough. If you want to fix Crime in EVE, then EVE itself needs to have some systemic face lift. People keep talking about how not many new players come to the game and most are alts of old accounts. People speak of how EVE is not retaining that many players. The game is what 13 years old and it still hovers to between 300 and 500 active players I think for that long? Which means as many people come in that many people also quit. If you want to address the game if EVE is to be a game played by Millions at the same time, then EVE needs to make some changes and shift towards a more Just environment. Do not take me wrong, I am all for the Sandbox aspect of EVE, and Ia m definitely for the fact that EVE is one of the rare games offering to the players the choice to be good or evil. The problem is however, in comparison to similar games that in the other games being good is the challenge and being good is encouraged. The ration between good and evil in similar sandbox games is 75% good 25% evil to 85% good 15% evil. In EVE, has been designed as a dystopia and the ratios are actually reversed. People in EVE wait in line for the opportunity to be evil. This is no fertile ground for new players, it is actually a filter which weeds out players wishing to be good. If you want to raise the population of eve you have to make fertile ground for people wanting to be good. I am not saying eliminating the existing player base though. I think nullsec is more than fine as it is, that is sovereign corp/alliance battleground and that is actually an exciting prospect for new players something to look for when they advance some. The problem is not in Wormhole Space either, while it is wild wild west where people massacre each other too it at least has some mechanics which help people avoid being hunted all the time. The problem is in Empire space, where new players start out. It needs revamp, here are some suggestions: - Extending High Sec to 0.2, meaning Concord behaving in 0.2 as it behaves in 0.5, and 0.1 becoming the new 0.4. - Enhancing responsiveness and lethality of Concord. - Raising the Security loss resulting from Illegal actions, right now it is pitiful, people gank and attack undefended players at every opportunity in 0.4 without losing enough Security for it to be a deterrent. -Suicide Ganks in Empire space should be rendered almost impossible. -Corp Wars should cost much more, it is very easy to produce the fees now. Anyone who doe snot like someone else can get with their buddies and War dec the other, and especially clueless new players and coprs just because someone did not like their attitude or looks, and be chased out of the game early on. People quit when they can't progress in a fun way. It is normal because it is not fun to be blocked from playing a game.. And the cardinal rule is and remains, a that all players are here to have fun first and foremost. So the sandbox, free and openness end nature of the game needs to have some balances to avoid situation where the behaviour of a game's community actually prevents its own growth. Some say it is funny how everyone seems to talk about Risk Vs Reward but then when a miner risks it in 0.4, the ganker has no risk at all and only has reward. What good is Sec loss when you can buy your way out of it? There are no consequences to ones choice to be evil, there are only consequences to people who choose to be good. The game is too limiting in that regard. Now, there is a significant number of players constituting the "Pirate" community which live and thrive and gank in Low sec. I am not suggesting to eliminate them, but they need to be displaced, add a new region in space that would be all 0.1 Border/fringe Empire space so they can play there between the Sovereign nullsec and Empire spaces. Or add a region like the Jovian space as a new region discovered and not fully claimed by anyone, hence 0.1 that becomes the Pirate Galactic Archipelago. But at the same time New players will be able to advanced more by having Empire space expanded without other players eliminating them out of the game. The idea is simple, make the game more fun for new and intermediate players, let the competition be consensual and at an advanced stage. Often new players are told to adapt to EVE's realities in order to grow and be successful .however, if EVE as a game itself wants to grow, it also has to adapt to the Reality of the playerbase too. The choice is really there and it all depends what CCP and what the players wish all together. Do you want to keep EVE a niche game? Or make it more open to a lager playerbase? One thing is for sure, other games with EVE's scope are in the making, but they are not going to be based on a Dark Dystopian Universe, where wanting to just have fun is seen a a crime to be punished at every opportunity. Food for thought.
Jacques d'Orleans 2990	Posted - 2017.03.16 03:53:09 - [429] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: See post above this one I'll make it short: Quote: EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for. -CCP Wrangler /end quote If you want something else, happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures is right over here Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
Pix Severus Empty You 6082	Posted - 2017.03.16 05:10:24 - [430] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: - Extending High Sec to 0.2, meaning Concord behaving in 0.2 as it behaves in 0.5, and 0.1 becoming the new 0.4. Why increase highsec space when the outlying systems are almost always empty because they are more than X jumps from the nearest trade hub? Have you actually explored highsec? Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: - Enhancing responsiveness and lethality of Concord. This has already been done in the past, why do it again? How many more nerfs until you are happy? Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: -Suicide Ganks in Empire space should be rendered almost impossible. Oh, that many. In other words you want highsec to be a Designated Safe Zone, thus killing the soul of this game that is supposed to be dangerous for everyone. Your suggestion would ensure that most players never leave highsec, making it boring and killing emergent gameplay. Players would only be able to PvP in the Designated PvP Zone, removing all risk for most players. You seem to think that if highsec was made into a safe space, that the game would automatically attract millions of players, this is wrong. EVE is a niche game that most gamers haven't even heard of, they certainly wouldn't flock here because the game suddenly had it's soul ripped out. You also talk about good and evil, making no mention of the grey area between them. You sound like someone who is uncomfortable if they cant put everyone and everything into convenient little boxes with labels on them. Your suggestions are all about making EVE better for you, disregarding the gameplay of thousands of others. MTU Hunter: Latest Entry - Dec 28 2016 - Vocal Local 4 MTU Hunting 101: Comprehensive Guide

Sivar Ahishatsu Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2017.03.16 06:42:57 - [431] - Quote First of, WTF does Hello Kitty online have to do with it all? Since when is it a crime to want to have more Fun in a game? Are you serious there? Lets please leave the derogatory rhetoric out of it. I am no carebear, I am just expressing constructive criticism based on many discussions with people who have tried EVE and did not like it and left. EVE is a niche game because of the way it is setup not because it is not known. Most people (in MMORPG playerbase) know of EVE many people choose to stay away because of its constraints. Now lets make something clear here. All of the suggestions made, and I think even the efforts of the OP are moot if CCP is happy with the popularity and player numbers and income of the game. If they wish the status quo then this discussion ends here. Having said this, and assuming, we all want a better game and more people playing it...the questions we should be asking ourselves are not about attacking people who offer differing suggestions which may make you fear of losing your niche enjoyment, but rather questions which would open up ideas towards making the game better for more people. A starting point is for instance to ask ourselves, how many people actually try EVE every year and how many of these actually stay? I know that allot of people try EVE, and most do not stay. So in my view based on that information the next natural question to ask is , why? And how can the game improve so that more people actually stay? It was mentioned here that the game is Dystopian in nature, it was mentioned that people should feel worry playing it and that people would also feel angry. Butt his is maybe how a specific set of people like to play the game. Yet, the Dystopian nature of the game can be in relation to its Lore as well, and does not always have to be in terms of game play. Nevertheless, the larger question is, why force everyone in to that midset? I mean NEW EDEN is big enough to cater multiple styles of play. You can feel angry in Nullsec, you can feel worried in Wormhole space..but why does it have to be everywhere? And it is upon that rationale that I make the suggestions that I do, mind you, some of them are actually attempted solutions to problems people who quit the game expressed as reasons for quitting the game. We have a New Player Experience in place, it is still being developed, but, what comes after it counts as well. It was asked why Expand Empire space when most people like to stay near Trading Hubs? It was also said that if Empire space was expanded more people would settle in it. So I think the second proposition solves the first because if more people settle in Empire space then more of it will be occupied and new trade Hubs will be opened. Because right now most people stay close to existing Hubs because there isn't any justification to create new ones and also because currently empire space is rather constrained and limited. So there is a cause and effect here, which we should be asking ourselves how to reverse and improve the over all experience. More people in the game is not only good for CCP, it is good for all the game, Because a certain percentage of more people will go fit in the various areas of EVE, some will add themselves to the Pirate pool some will head to nullsec bolstering Corps there and alliances, some others will fill the ranks of Empire corps and some will join Wormhole corps. More people means more activity, more business, more industry more wars too, more opportunities and more profits for all, and all that together means more FUN! Ok? And More fun in a game is a Good thing, we do not play games to cry and sob... No matter how you put it, more people is a good thing for many reasons and one would have to be very short sighted and selfish to say otherwise. The point is that EVE is 13 years old...and it doe snot have more people. Well, you know what they say? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is actually the definition of insanity. If we want more people in EVE (and since more people is good), then somethings have to change, and we must accept the change for the betterment of the game that we all claim to like and love.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3898	Posted - 2017.03.16 09:23:28 - [432] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: First of, WTF does Hello Kitty online have to do with it all? Since when is it a crime to want to have more Fun in a game? Are you serious there? Lets please leave the derogatory rhetoric out of it. I am no carebear, I am just expressing constructive criticism based on many discussions with people who have tried EVE and did not like it and left. EVE is a niche game because of the way it is setup not because it is not known. Most people (in MMORPG playerbase) know of EVE many people choose to stay away because of its constraints. Now lets make something clear here. All of the suggestions made, and I think even the efforts of the OP are moot if CCP is happy with the popularity and player numbers and income of the game. If they wish the status quo then this discussion ends here. Having said this, and assuming, we all want a better game and more people playing it...the questions we should be asking ourselves are not about attacking people who offer differing suggestions which may make you fear of losing your niche enjoyment, but rather questions which would open up ideas towards making the game better for more people. A starting point is for instance to ask ourselves, how many people actually try EVE every year and how many of these actually stay? I know that allot of people try EVE, and most do not stay. So in my view based on that information the next natural question to ask is , why? And how can the game improve so that more people actually stay? It was mentioned here that the game is Dystopian in nature, it was mentioned that people should feel worry playing it and that people would also feel angry. Butt his is maybe how a specific set of people like to play the game. Yet, the Dystopian nature of the game can be in relation to its Lore as well, and does not always have to be in terms of game play. Nevertheless, the larger question is, why force everyone in to that mindset? I mean NEW EDEN is big enough to cater multiple styles of play. You can feel angry in Nullsec, you can feel worried in Wormhole space..but why does it have to be everywhere? And it is upon that rationale that I make the suggestions that I do, mind you, some of them are actually attempted solutions to problems people who quit the game expressed as reasons for quitting the game. We have a New Player Experience in place, it is still being developed, but, what comes after it counts as well. It was asked why Expand Empire space when most people like to stay near Trading Hubs? It was also said that if Empire space was expanded more people would settle in it. So I think the second proposition solves the first because if more people settle in Empire space then more of it will be occupied and new trade Hubs will be opened. Because right now most people stay close to existing Hubs because there isn't any justification to create new ones and also because currently empire space is rather constrained and limited. So there is a cause and effect here, which we should be asking ourselves how to reverse and improve the over all experience. More people in the game is not only good for CCP, it is good for all the game, Because a certain percentage of more people will go fit in the various areas of EVE, some will add themselves to the Pirate pool some will head to nullsec bolstering Corps there and alliances, some others will fill the ranks of Empire corps and some will join Wormhole corps. More people means more activity, more business, more industry more wars too, more opportunities and more profits for all, and all that together means more FUN! Ok? And More fun in a game is a Good thing, we do not play games to cry and sob... No matter how you put it, more people is a good thing for many reasons and one would have to be very short sighted and selfish to say otherwise. The point is that EVE is 13 years old...and it does not have more people. Well, you know what they say? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is actually the definition of insanity. If we want more people in EVE (and since more people is good), then somethings have to change, and we must accept the change for the betterment of the game that we all claim to like and love. As such the question is open to all, what can change so that more people come and play and stay? I offered my take on it, if you think that you have a better suggestions to make, please go ahead! I've been accused of not using paragraphs once or twice but I think this is taking it to extremes. Also cany anybody give me a TLDR of his last 2 posts? Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3753	Posted - 2017.03.16 11:47:37 - [433] - Quote Something like: "Think of the children, nerf Highsec agression mechanics!" One of those people who think EVE will attract millions of players if only you make Highsec boring enogh. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3899	Posted - 2017.03.16 12:34:21 - [434] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Something like: "Think of the children, nerf Highsec agression mechanics!" One of those people who think EVE will attract millions of players if only you make Highsec boring enogh. Sweet thanks Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Jacques d'Orleans 2998	Posted - 2017.03.16 15:10:56 - [435] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: First of, WTF does Hello Kitty online have to do with it all? Since when is it a crime to want to have more Fun in a game? Are you serious there? It's called "playing the devils advoate". Having fun in a game is a feeling and a form of personal definition. What might be fun for you, might be not fun for others. From your point of view the points you made are legit, from my point of view they're not. Explanation: My point of view is, that if CCP does exactly what you're suggesting EvE will end as one of the many other generic MMO's who are already flooding the market. Or even worse, it will end up like Star Wars Galaxies which went from a popular MMO into close down after the failed NGE upgrade in relatively short time. Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: EVE is a niche game because of the way it is setup not because it is not known. Most people (in MMORPG playerbase) know of EVE many people choose to stay away because of its constraints. Yes, it is an it will always be and it was intended to be something different, not the mainstream MMO like WoW or SW:TOR and so on. What you see as constraints, are imho no constraints at all. I want to play EvE as it is, a harsh, dark, dystopian place, and yes i love it to watch my six permanently, i love it when i lose a ship. Losing a ship is an learning effort, to avoid further loses, well, at least for me. I will never play a EVE online with the suggestion you made, why should i play a generic EVE-MMO, when there are already hundreds of those alvailable. Let EVE be a niche game, not everything has to be stream lined to cater for the hipster crowd mainstream today. Not everything has to cater to everybodies taste. Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: I know that allot of people try EVE, and most do not stay. So in my view based on that information the next natural question to ask is , why? And how can the game improve so that more people actually stay? Well, many people try games and don't stay, for a myriad of different reasons. For some the game is to hard, for some the game is to easy, for some it is not their cup of tea. I don't know how many don't stay and why they don't stay in EvE and to be honest i had the same in mayn other Games, bets example is Elite:Dangerous, i tried it, i was bored to hell and i left. If people don't like something, they move on, moving on is part of a gamers life, simple as that and imho trying to bring those back who didn't liked Eve, for different reasosn, won't be successfull. Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: It was mentioned here that the game is Dystopian in nature, it was mentioned that people should feel worry playing it and that people would also feel angry. Butt his is maybe how a specific set of people like to play the game. Yet, the Dystopian nature of the game can be in relation to its Lore as well, and does not always have to be in terms of game play. Nevertheless, the larger question is, why force everyone in to that mindset? First of all, nobody is forcing someone to a different mindset, because nobody is forcing anybody to play the game. If the mindset doesn't cater your taste, don't play that game, play Elite or wait for Star Citizen (no pun intended). Even more, the easy gratification crowd is permanently coming to *** and moan about "make it more fun": No personal attack intended. Sivar Ahishatsu wrote:** I mean NEW EDEN is big enough to cater multiple styles of play. You can feel angry in Nullsec, you can feel worried in Wormhole space..but why does it have to be everywhere? Counter question: Why not? Why has everything today to be cozy and easy for everyone? Why has everything in games today to be pretty, shiny, easy and "everybody loves everybody" style. Where are the people who want to achieve something without being taken by the hand and led thru a pink "happy go lucky" paradise? IMHO, that's even more dystopian than EvE's original set up, it's almost Orwellian some could say. I play EvE online because I want to play in a harsh dark world, if we change EVE as you suggest, all those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
Sivar Ahishatsu Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2017.03.16 16:59:36 - [436] - Quote First of all, thanks for the educated reply. Some people here cannot even read or hold a civil discussion and ask for others to summarise. But its fine EVE has many sociopaths playing it too. No News there. Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Explanation: My point of view is, that if CCP does exactly what you're suggesting EvE will end as one of the many other generic MMO's who are already flooding the market. Or even worse, it will end up like Star Wars Galaxies which went from a popular MMO into close down after the failed NGE upgrade in relatively short time. I can understand playing devils advocate so I accept this if that was your intent. Maybe I am also playing devils advocate here, as away to try and find solutions ;) Now, of course fun is Relative, I am not disputing this I do not think there is argument there. But eventually, like everything in EVE it all comes down to numbers from a business sense. Like when the Suicide Ganker evaluates the potential profit form the kill versus the potential loss and decides to sacrifice their ships and pulls the trigger. If EVE can have more players and more profit from a few mechanics changes, the minority that may quit in protest is insignificant and can be sacrificed. I am not suggesting a SWG NGE here. And Mind you I played that game for many years and it was one of the greatest games. I am a Sandbox Game proponent. I do not know if you played it or if you liked it. But if you did, you should remember that in SWG for all its glory, it still was a Consentual PvP game. The issue is that EVE retains the "slap in the face" mechanics that SWG rejected in its design. And what I am proposing is a few key mechanical changes to a specific area of the game, in order to enhance its gameplay appeal. I was very disappointed and part of the people who did quit SWG after NGE so, definitely no, an NGE is not what I am suggesting here. I do not want core changes to EVE. Like you I am here because EVE is one of the last Old School inspired Sandbox games and different from the Myriads of Themepark WoWs and its Clones out there. So you are preaching to a choir here, about what type of game EVE is etc. No need, we stand on same side in that regard. Quote: Yes, it is an it will always be and it was intended to be something different, not the mainstream MMO like WoW or SW:TOR and so on. What you see as constraints, are imho no constraints at all. I want to play EvE as it is, a harsh, dark, dystopian place, and yes i love it to watch my six permanently, i love it when i lose a ship. Losing a ship is an learning effort, to avoid further loses, well, at least for me. I will never play a EVE online with the suggestion you made, why should i play a generic EVE-MMO, when there are already hundreds of those alvailable. Let EVE be a niche game, not everything has to be stream lined to cater for the hipster crowd mainstream today. Not everything has to cater to everybodies taste. No comment really here. I think we all know what EVE is, the issue is not what it is the issue is, can it be better? And how, without necessarily losing its Dystopian ..harsh and dark attributes. Again I am not suggesting to change the core of EVE, just some mechanics. [quote] First of all, nobody is forcing someone to a different mindset, because nobody is forcing anybody to play the game. If the mindset doesn't cater your taste, don't play that game, play Elite or wait for Star Citizen (no pun intended). Even more, the easy gratification crowd is permanently coming to ***** and moan about "make it more fun": No personal attack intended.[quote] No offence taken, I do not consider myself part of the instant gratification group. However, we differ here in our view in relation to Fun. You seen to consider Fun a sin. And I do not. EVE no matter its Dystopian design, is still a Game. And people play games to have fun. Now fun is relative we agreed on that, so there can be many types of fun. But it is not fun when your sand creations are constantly being stomped upon. When a miner in a barge gets blown out in 2 seconds by a DPS Catalyst, he is being forced. New players in their non combat Venture Frigates get burned, every day, for the fun of someone else. Opps you happen to take the risk in a 0.4 with an unnamed ship and voila the other person forced their fun upon you and slapped you in the face. That is not fun for many people, who may otherwise enjoy and like the game but are forced to quit because there is not enough space in the playground for them to build whatever they try to build. Why would it be wrong to let people have more fun in Empire space, without affecting core mechanics of the game otherwise? Why not let people have more fun mining, and engaging in industry and trade, heck maybe even exploring, and PVEing without the the rest of us trying to play Evil Punishers or whatever else people imagine themselves to be when they go after newbies and unnamed targets... punishing them for playing a game? You speak of what is fun for you, but you dismiss and disregard what maybe fun for the countless others that your fun is chasing away. If you want me to consider your fun, you have to consider mine too. And you cannot impose on my the "Like my fun or change game" line. You are not better than me, your just an another equal player. No personal attack intended. Yes EVE is a complex, harsh, Sandbox, Open ended type of Game, but that does not mean that it cannot be Fun at the same time for more people. Again only someone short sighted would dismiss this potential. Making Empire space safer has many advantages which would enhance the games other areas, not to mention CCP's income. Think Big!
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 28047	Posted - 2017.03.16 17:50:24 - [437] - Quote Get away from the trade and mission hubs and Empire is a desolate wasteland. There's probably 1000's of hisec systems that rarely see more than 3 people in local, I know of entire constellations which have residents in the single digits. Expanding Empire space will not result in a more widespread population, it will result in even more empty systems for those in the know to farm the shite out of the resources while everybody else clusters around the trade and mission hubs. In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 425	Posted - 2017.03.16 17:57:30 - [438] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: The game is what 13 years old and it still hovers to between 300 and 500 active players I think for that long? I pretty much lost all respect for you right here. I've been in fights with at least 5 times that many people in local. I think we broke 5000 people in M-O. Even if you assume every person in EvE came to that fight, they'd have to be multiboxing at least 10 alts each. This also assumes that the entirety of the cluster was completely dead. Never before have I seen someone come up with such blatantly dishonest facts. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Oh, and the rest of your idea is bad too. I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Toxic Yaken The Dickwad Squad Legio De Mortem 152	Posted - 2017.03.16 18:37:18 - [439] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Get away from the trade and mission hubs and Empire is a desolate wasteland. There's probably 1000's of hisec systems that rarely see more than 3 people in local, I know of entire constellations which have residents in the single digits. Expanding Empire space will not result in a more widespread population, it will result in even more empty systems for those in the know to farm the shite out of the resources while everybody else clusters around the trade and mission hubs. Pretty much this. I understand why so many corporations establish themselves by popular resources and trade hubs - you minimize the amount of effort you need to put in to be prosperous. But the areas of space like Derelik or Solitude are super dead end to the point where most 'content creators' won't even bother unless they have a serious grudge against you. Sure, they absolutely suck logistically, but that's an opportunity to make those regions better for you and your group. In my opinion CCP doesn't do enough to educate new players considering how many end up living and learning their first days/weeks/months in Highsec. It's really hard to cope with losses because when you're a new character you see a lot of your assets as time investments just because of how hard it can be to make isk in those early days if you don't know what you are doing. Pouring hours into saving up for something just to have it smashed an hour later feels bad. Newbros well aren't educated on the golden rules of EVE; especially that ships are tools and not your character, they don't understand the risks of autopiloting, and they don't recognize the potential threats that they can face in Highsec in general, despite it being the "safer" space. I don't like reinforcing the perception that EVE is a scary game where everyone is out to get you, but telling players that Highsec is safe is a damned lie. Vote Toxic Yaken for CSM XII! Curator of the Wardec Project - Join our Discord to join the discussions about Wardecs
Sivar Ahishatsu Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2017.03.16 19:38:23 - [440] - Quote Dark Lord Trump wrote: Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: The game is what 13 years old and it still hovers to between 300 and 500 active players I think for that long? I pretty much lost all respect for you right here. I've been in fights with at least 5 times that many people in local. I think we broke 5000 people in M-O. Even if you assume every person in EvE came to that fight, they'd have to be multiboxing at least 10 alts each. This also assumes that the entirety of the cluster was completely dead. Never before have I seen someone come up with such blatantly dishonest facts. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Oh, and the rest of your idea is bad too. I was talking about Thousands here, 300 to 500 thousands of players since it launch.

Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3906	Posted - 2017.03.16 20:55:50 - [441] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: Dark Lord Trump wrote: Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: The game is what 13 years old and it still hovers to between 300 and 500 active players I think for that long? I pretty much lost all respect for you right here. I've been in fights with at least 5 times that many people in local. I think we broke 5000 people in M-O. Even if you assume every person in EvE came to that fight, they'd have to be multiboxing at least 10 alts each. This also assumes that the entirety of the cluster was completely dead. Never before have I seen someone come up with such blatantly dishonest facts. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Oh, and the rest of your idea is bad too. I was talking about Thousands here, 300 to 500 thousands of active accounts since it launch. There are on average about 20-40 thousands of players playing at any time. Where are you pulling these figures from? Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 426	Posted - 2017.03.16 21:11:58 - [442] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: Dark Lord Trump wrote: Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: The game is what 13 years old and it still hovers to between 300 and 500 active players I think for that long? I pretty much lost all respect for you right here. I've been in fights with at least 5 times that many people in local. I think we broke 5000 people in M-O. Even if you assume every person in EvE came to that fight, they'd have to be multiboxing at least 10 alts each. This also assumes that the entirety of the cluster was completely dead. Never before have I seen someone come up with such blatantly dishonest facts. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Oh, and the rest of your idea is bad too. I was talking about Thousands here, 300 to 500 thousands of active accounts since it launch. There are on average about 20-40 thousands of players playing at any time. Then you should have stated that instead of leaving it up for me to guess at what you meant. Your proposal to delete lowsec and suicide ganking is still bad. Constricting all of low to a scant few systems and maybe one new region is a terrible idea, as is sucking all the risk out of hisec. I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Sivar Ahishatsu Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2017.03.16 21:38:52 - [443] - Quote Dark Lord Trump wrote: Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: Dark Lord Trump wrote: Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: The game is what 13 years old and it still hovers to between 300 and 500 active players I think for that long? I pretty much lost all respect for you right here. I've been in fights with at least 5 times that many people in local. I think we broke 5000 people in M-O. Even if you assume every person in EvE came to that fight, they'd have to be multiboxing at least 10 alts each. This also assumes that the entirety of the cluster was completely dead. Never before have I seen someone come up with such blatantly dishonest facts. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Oh, and the rest of your idea is bad too. I was talking about Thousands here, 300 to 500 thousands of active accounts since it launch. There are on average about 20-40 thousands of players playing at any time. Then you should have stated that instead of leaving it up for me to guess at what you meant. Your proposal to delete lowsec and suicide ganking is still bad. Constricting all of low to a scant few systems and maybe one new region is a terrible idea, as is sucking all the risk out of hisec. Sorry man, I am but a human being, I am not perfect I make mistakes and omissions at time. Don't kill me for it.
Sivar Ahishatsu Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2017.03.16 21:46:00 - [444] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: Dark Lord Trump wrote: Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: The game is what 13 years old and it still hovers to between 300 and 500 active players I think for that long? I pretty much lost all respect for you right here. I've been in fights with at least 5 times that many people in local. I think we broke 5000 people in M-O. Even if you assume every person in EvE came to that fight, they'd have to be multiboxing at least 10 alts each. This also assumes that the entirety of the cluster was completely dead. Never before have I seen someone come up with such blatantly dishonest facts. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Oh, and the rest of your idea is bad too. I was talking about Thousands here, 300 to 500 thousands of active accounts since it launch. There are on average about 20-40 thousands of players playing at any time. Where are you pulling these figures from? I can read. But here this may help you: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=303856
StonerPhReaK Herb Men 627	Posted - 2017.03.16 21:59:03 - [445] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: "Based on many discussions with people who have tried EVE and did not like it and left." How did you find these people? If they left, you would have had to gone looking for them. That sounds a bit creepy but w/e. Im hoping your answer is that they all dwell on a 'i quit eve' forums board that has links to there accounts and some kinda proof that they actually played, what they did, and if they even tried to dodge the odd wardec or suicide gank of a vessel containing the life savings of three pilots and a fedo unescorted. TL:DR I dont believe you. Your ideas are anti-eve and i hope BoB shows no mercy on your pod. Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Sivar Ahishatsu Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2017.03.16 22:00:43 - [446] - Quote Greets, interesting points, by Jonah Gravenstein too. Toxic Yaken wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Get away from the trade and mission hubs and Empire is a desolate wasteland. There's probably 1000's of hisec systems that rarely see more than 3 people in local, I know of entire constellations which have residents in the single digits. Expanding Empire space will not result in a more widespread population, it will result in even more empty systems for those in the know to farm the shite out of the resources while everybody else clusters around the trade and mission hubs. Pretty much this. I understand why so many corporations establish themselves by popular resources and trade hubs - you minimize the amount of effort you need to put in to be prosperous. But the areas of space like Derelik or Solitude are super dead end to the point where most 'content creators' won't even bother unless they have a serious grudge against you. Sure, they absolutely suck logistically, but that's an opportunity to make those regions better for you and your group. I prefer the tranquil regions. Yet the point here is not where people go, people will go where the content is. the issue with Empire space is not so much one of available space, but rather a question of accessible content. Expanding Security to Empire space is about giving access to people to more content, better mining Ores, higher level Missions, and Trade opportunities. With these comes a better demographic distribution and in turn new hubs created, because it is in human nature to build stuff establish new links and seek opportunities. Also most people will tend to go where other people are, not everyone likes the tranquil regions, it is an MMORPG and the first reason to play one is to share the experience with other people. To play with other people. That is also part of human nature. So concentrating around mission and trade hubs is not about logistics, it is about Sociability and accessibility to content, it is about being close to people one can play with. The reality is that most people don't care about logistics and efficiency and many have no clue until they introduced to more efficient ways of doing things or their player evolution brings them to the point of thinking to make things more efficient. Anotehr fact is that the game does have still a few tediums and was designed in an era when Tediums and time sinks were intended for player retention paying the subscription (inheritance from EQ design paradigm). But this has changed today, players today will not put up with too much tedium and time sinks. And EVE has in many areas followed the player trends, eliminated Learning skills, redundant, eliminated Clone grades (was ridiculous), improved New Player experience. The next area of improvement is justice, The OP seeks to make things more just for the victims of those who would take advantage of the system to take it out on others. All this thread is in reality a cry for Justice, as many unjust situations exist in Empire space which is causing many players to stay away and even quit.
Sivar Ahishatsu Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2017.03.16 22:06:28 - [447] - Quote (have to do this in two replies, this forum is made for instant gratification small messages only) Toxic Yaken wrote: In my opinion CCP doesn't do enough to educate new players considering how many end up living and learning their first days/weeks/months in Highsec. It's really hard to cope with losses because when you're a new character you see a lot of your assets as time investments just because of how hard it can be to make isk in those early days if you don't know what you are doing. Pouring hours into saving up for something just to have it smashed an hour later feels bad. Newbros well aren't educated on the golden rules of EVE; especially that ships are tools and not your character, they don't understand the risks of autopiloting, and they don't recognize the potential threats that they can face in Highsec in general, despite it being the "safer" space. I don't like reinforcing the perception that EVE is a scary game where everyone is out to get you, but telling players that Highsec is safe is a damned lie. First things first. Loss in our days has been ironed out somewhat. The game is still Risk Vs Reward, but it used to be also "Hard Earned, easy to lose", today this has changed towards "Easy earned easy to lose", which is a better formula for Fun in a PvP oriented game with Loss. The issue is Justice and Crime and Punishment. The game lacks in that regard. I do not care how Dystopian the Lore is supposed to be at one point one has to recognise the actual game systems in place and the gameplay that emerges from them, may actually be detrimental to overall fun factor. Right now, we have a playground where people are scared to build sand castles on, because they are prevented doing so, discouraged from doing so, told to shut up and stay in a little corner doing whatever other players want them to be doing. You mention the golden rules, and I agree every player should know and consider them but the rules today are themselves ridiculous and a testament of how limited EVE gameplay really is. Because it might be a Sandbox, but it is one where you are cautioned from building a tower, and instead are told to stick to huts... because you will be robbed of it and see it destroyed by others. So please build only huts and learn to accept losing them. Don't you dare become a Trader with valuable cargo.. Don't you dare go Mine for better Ore. Don't you dare run high end missions. So what is there to do in EVE people ask? If I cannot do all the things the game tells me I can do what is the purpose of playing? How can I do the so called Careers when I am told not to advance past a certain point in them? For reference Rule #1 Quote: Be able to afford a loss * Never fly something (or with something in the cargo) you can't afford to lose. Yes, not even in highsec. Meaning that you should not fly a ship you cannot afford to replace and refit. I played the games that EVE got its inspiration from, the old school sandbox MMORPG's with loss and all. But there is a fundamental difference between them and EVE. They made sure that Criminal Behaviour did not go unpunished, and also made Safe social Hubs. Social behaviour and interaction was encouraged. There was another Golden rule in them, "You are held accountable for choosing to be Evil be warned and prepared". You went perma red lost access to social Hubs (cities etc), and you led a life in lawlessness, and utter danger as you were also constantly hunted by those defending the weak and innocent. Few kills is all it took. And you could not hide behind game mechanics and weak Criminal and Punishment systems. In Eve the justice system is an utter Joke. The punishment is laughable. There are "Pirates" who kill victims daily turn around and buy back their Security status. There is no accountability and no risk. Education of Golden rules goes only so far. After a point we are all limited by the tools at our disposal. We cannot arm a Venture enough to repel a criminal attack nor even a barge. Learning of the rules means realising, that you simply are not going to mine in Low sec. And that is a constraint in game play. Learning the rules means realising that yes people are out to get you in EVE, it is just a reality, and we all have experienced it, because its mechanics permit it. And that is that.
Zander Moreau The Scope Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2017.03.16 23:21:06 - [448] - Quote Quote: The problem with EVE is not that it permits one to be a villain. The problem with EVE is that there is no accountability for being a villain. It encourages thuggery and villainy and punishes innocence and honesty. And as long as it does, it will be what it always has been and not more. And in a dystopia setting, that's what's going to rule the day. Social Darwinism where the strong survive and those who can't hack it get discarded. As to no accountability, the security status being negative for a criminal is accountability enough. It makes it harder for those who have low or negative security status to move around. They're fair game for others to shoot at. So if Joe Carebear doesn't want to take a shot at him or her, that's on them. Regardless, the criminal is always on their toes wondering when the next attack is coming in while they travel through high sec. "We will bring you love... and by love, I mean lasers." Pope Maximillian Singularity VI, First of His Name
Areen Sassel 175	Posted - 2017.03.17 00:08:15 - [449] - Quote Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Quote: EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for. Leaving aside the latest round of "make EVE like every other MMO and surely subscriber numbers will rise because reasons", I'd like to know why Hello Kitty Online doesn't actually exist. I'd play it, so based on extensive market research (myself), it would be a roaring success.
Sivar Ahishatsu Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2017.03.17 00:25:56 - [450] - Quote Zander Moreau wrote: Quote: The problem with EVE is not that it permits one to be a villain. The problem with EVE is that there is no accountability for being a villain. It encourages thuggery and villainy and punishes innocence and honesty. And as long as it does, it will be what it always has been and not more. And in a dystopia setting, that's what's going to rule the day. Social Darwinism where the strong survive and those who can't hack it get discarded. In other words a Filtering process, the Thugss get to stay and play while everyone else plays something else. It is in reality EVE's loss, think about it. And I am sorry but I do not see Criminals who have no accountability as the strong. Cowards would be a better description. Because there is nothing strong about shooting down weaker and unnamed targets. Quote: As to no accountability, the security status being negative for a criminal is accountability enough. It makes it harder for those who have low or negative security status to move around. They're fair game for others to shoot at. So if Joe Carebear doesn't want to take a shot at him or her, that's on them. Regardless, the criminal is always on their toes wondering when the next attack is coming in while they travel through high sec. I disagree, the podding in High sec is proof to that, the Freighters Transports and Mining Ships being destroyed daily in High sec are proof to that too. The Low sec interdiction is proof to that as well. The Content blockade is proof to that. And of course the retention percentages. And you neglect the fact that "Joe Carebear" cannot take a shot because his ship doe snot shoot, he is in a mining barge. It is time for the Empires to step up their Security Forces and invest in their equipment and enforcement policies, it is time for CONCORD to expand as well. No Self respecting Leader of any Empire would permit his or her people to live in unjust conditions. No empire in the world has ever survived and flourished under anarchy. Justice is is a pillar of empire making, and a trademark of Good leaders. An Empire without Justice crumbles form within.

Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 2140	Posted - 2017.03.17 00:41:03 - [451] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: And you neglect the fact that "Joe Carebear" cannot take a shot because his ship doe snot shoot, he is in a mining barge. Why yes, those Procurors (and Skiffs) are so, so, helpless. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 428	Posted - 2017.03.17 00:49:41 - [452] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: Zander Moreau wrote: Quote: The problem with EVE is not that it permits one to be a villain. The problem with EVE is that there is no accountability for being a villain. It encourages thuggery and villainy and punishes innocence and honesty. And as long as it does, it will be what it always has been and not more. And in a dystopia setting, that's what's going to rule the day. Social Darwinism where the strong survive and those who can't hack it get discarded. In other words a Filtering process, the Thugss get to stay and play while everyone else plays something else. It is in reality EVE's loss, think about it. And I am sorry but I do not see Criminals who have no accountability as the strong. Cowards would be a better description. Because there is nothing strong about shooting down weaker and unnamed targets. Quote: As to no accountability, the security status being negative for a criminal is accountability enough. It makes it harder for those who have low or negative security status to move around. They're fair game for others to shoot at. So if Joe Carebear doesn't want to take a shot at him or her, that's on them. Regardless, the criminal is always on their toes wondering when the next attack is coming in while they travel through high sec. I disagree, the podding in High sec is proof to that, the Freighters Transports and Mining Ships being destroyed daily in High sec are proof to that too. The Low sec interdiction is proof to that as well. The Content blockade is proof to that. And of course the retention percentages. And you neglect the fact that "Joe Carebear" cannot take a shot because his ship doe snot shoot, he is in a mining barge. It is time for the Empires to step up their Security Forces and invest in their equipment and enforcement policies, it is time for CONCORD to expand as well. No Self respecting Leader of any Empire would permit his or her people to live in unjust conditions. No empire in the world has ever survived and flourished under anarchy. Justice is is a pillar of empire making, and a trademark of Good leaders. An Empire without Justice crumbles form within. "thugs" are just as vulnerable to being shot at as anyone else, if not more so. Maybe Joe Carebear should make some friends in the massively multiplayer online game he plays. I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Jacques d'Orleans 3004	Posted - 2017.03.17 00:54:40 - [453] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: And you neglect the fact that "Joe Carebear" cannot take a shot because his ship doe snot shoot, he is AFK in a mining barge. FTFY. Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
Sivar Ahishatsu Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2017.03.17 01:04:25 - [454] - Quote Mike Adoulin wrote: Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: And you neglect the fact that "Joe Carebear" cannot take a shot because his ship doe snot shoot, he is in a mining barge. Why yes, those Procurors (and Skiffs) are so, so, helpless. And the Covetors and Retrievers, and Hulks and Mackinaws, not to mention Venturers and Orcas even. Just peruse the zKillboards and see for yourself what is actually going on in High Sec. It is a daily massacre with impunity by cowards. There is cause for concern here, it is just the reality of things. The funny thing is however how some people here try to lecture on Darwinism and the law of the fittest, and their comments betray their lack of understanding. Natural Selection is not about which species is stronger in a direct duel with another. But rather how each species is able to adapt to a changing environment. That is what the law of the fittest is all about. Are you fit to survive change? Some here said that they would quit if EVE changes, which means they are not fit for survival. So if EVE does change, Ia m very curious to see who really survives, who really is capable to adapt, and who really is truly strong. And we can take that a step further too and apply it to EVE itself as a game. It also has to adapt or go extinct in the jungle that is the Gaming Marketplace. We shall just have to see how it all evolves form here on.
Sivar Ahishatsu Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2017.03.17 01:16:19 - [455] - Quote Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: And you neglect the fact that "Joe Carebear" cannot take a shot because his ship doe snot shoot, he is AFK in a mining barge. FTFY. Let alone the fact that there can be huge disparities between low tier Tank and higher tier DPS including skills which can result in a barge being blown out within 5 seconds where AFK or not would not matter at all. There is no way for you to know that someone was AFK, maybe simply they were there trying to be inconspicuous and not attract aggression towards them oblivious to the fact that you were out to get them. Plus, even if they were AFK, since when is that a crime? Who are we to punish people for having been called in the next room or went to the bathroom while the ship was mining? You speak like if everyone is expected to play like robots, and they should be punished if not. It sounds like prejudice and harassment. Not to mention that it certainly is imposing certain mindset to other players. your mindset. It is this mindset in my opinion that is limiting EVE.
Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 1043	Posted - 2017.03.17 01:26:25 - [456] - Quote tl;dr on Sivar's posts? If I want to read a book, I'm going to read a book Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Jacques d'Orleans 3007	Posted - 2017.03.17 01:54:55 - [457] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: And you neglect the fact that "Joe Carebear" cannot take a shot because his ship doe snot shoot, he is AFK in a mining barge. FTFY. There is no way for you to know that someone was AFK, maybe simply they were there trying to be inconspicuous and not attract aggression towards them oblivious to the fact that you were out to get them. Plus, even if they were AFK, since when is that a crime? Who are we to punish people for having been called in the next room or went to the bathroom while the ship was mining? You speak like if everyone is expected to play like robots, and they should be punished if not. It sounds like prejudice and harassment. Not to mention that it certainly is imposing certain mindset to other players. your mindset. It is this mindset in my opinion that is limiting EVE. I mined pretty much back in the day, not so much today anymore, but sometimes I still do it. I can see if someone is afk in a belt, you get an eye for it, sooner or later. And believe it or not, I dock up when I have to take a dump or a pee. Yes, I'm imposing a certain mindset to other players, this mindset is called "situational awareness", it can save your arse in a real life combat zone and it can save your arse in EvE. It's apretty simple concept, tbh. If someone gets popped while mining in a belt it's always for the same reasons: No eye on local No usage of D-scan drunk or high The "usual" suspects not set "red" or at least "orange" in his contacts list Mining upgrade II tanked Not jumping out of belt if some neut jumps in, assumed they even now what a "Neut" or "RED" is, which I would highly doubt. Jumping into a belt not using own bookmarks and staying near the entry point afk mining and also hauling and so on and so forth. Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
Pix Severus Empty You 6084	Posted - 2017.03.17 02:00:15 - [458] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: tl;dr on Sivar's posts? If I want to read a book, I'm going to read a book Here are the highlights: Make highsec larger Delete lowsec Delete suicide ganking There are no penalties to suicide ganking Ganking is driving away new players EVE would be as big as WoW if ganking was removed EVE forces players to play as criminals Shooting people who are AFK is bad He has mentioned the word "sociopath" at least once MTU Hunter: Latest Entry - Dec 28 2016 - Vocal Local 4 MTU Hunting 101: Comprehensive Guide
Sere O'Asis Summer Evenings and Autumn Skies 146	Posted - 2017.03.17 04:20:17 - [459] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: Zander Moreau wrote: Quote: The problem with EVE is not that it permits one to be a villain. The problem with EVE is that there is no accountability for being a villain. It encourages thuggery and villainy and punishes innocence and honesty. And as long as it does, it will be what it always has been and not more. And in a dystopia setting, that's what's going to rule the day. Social Darwinism where the strong survive and those who can't hack it get discarded. In other words a Filtering process, the Thugss get to stay and play while everyone else plays something else. It is in reality EVE's loss, think about it. And I am sorry but I do not see Criminals who have no accountability as the strong. Cowards would be a better description. Because there is nothing strong about shooting down weaker and unnamed targets. Quote: As to no accountability, the security status being negative for a criminal is accountability enough. It makes it harder for those who have low or negative security status to move around. They're fair game for others to shoot at. So if Joe Carebear doesn't want to take a shot at him or her, that's on them. Regardless, the criminal is always on their toes wondering when the next attack is coming in while they travel through high sec. I disagree, the podding in High sec is proof to that, the Freighters Transports and Mining Ships being destroyed daily in High sec are proof to that too. The Low sec interdiction is proof to that as well. The Content blockade is proof to that. And of course the retention percentages. And you neglect the fact that "Joe Carebear" cannot take a shot because his ship doe snot shoot, he is in a mining barge. It is time for the Empires to step up their Security Forces and invest in their equipment and enforcement policies, it is time for CONCORD to expand as well. No Self respecting Leader of any Empire would permit his or her people to live in unjust conditions. No empire in the world has ever survived and flourished under anarchy. Justice is is a pillar of empire making, and a trademark of Good leaders. An Empire without Justice crumbles form within. I have read your words, Sir, and feel we have two distinct visions for the game EVE Online. You wish for a more "just" game, I wish for the game as it is. I subscribed because of the ganking, the scamming, the treachery. I did not want a "just" game. I wanted EVE as it was...and is. I never saw EVE as good guys vs. bad guys. I saw it, and still see it , as us vs. them. My team versus your team, and I want my team to win. The so-called "criminals" have penalties, enormous penalties placed on them to survive and thrive in highsec, as do every mercenary corp. Every would be ganker in highsec, who shoots, is guaranteed to lose a ship, lose security status, and be subject to the violence anyone is willing to use against them immediately after a gank. In addition they are made vulnerable to assassination for a period of 30 days, via the killright mechanic. A killright that can be sold, at a moment's notice. 30 days of penalty, of hardship, which is ignored in most discussions covering this topic. Mercenary corps pay for the privilege to conduct their business, i.e. war dec fees, and they put their ships on the line with each encounter. While those wishing to avoid wars need only leave their corp, nothing more is required of them to avoid violence from a war dec. EVE does not punish innocence, because there are no innocents. The moment a player undocks he or she proclaims to every other player their acknowledgement of the game's rules and their consent to those same rules....which allow ganking, scamming, and war deccing in any space, except those systems proscribed from such activity by those same rules. Ignorance of the rules of the game is no justification for changing the rules of the game, in any game. Your argument for your vision of EVE, which, if I understand correctly, you put forth, at least in part, for the economic success/survivability of the game does you credit sir. But, it's like going into a chocolaterie and trying to order a pizza. Everyone is disappointed. So, I will leave this quote, here, in rebuttal to your comment on empires: "The Empires are losing their grasp......"
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3910	Posted - 2017.03.17 05:36:38 - [460] - Quote Pix Severus wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: tl;dr on Sivar's posts? If I want to read a book, I'm going to read a book Here are the highlights: Make highsec larger Delete lowsec Delete suicide ganking There are no penalties to suicide ganking Ganking is driving away new players EVE would be as big as WoW if ganking was removed EVE forces players to play as criminals Shooting people who are AFK is bad He has mentioned the word "sociopath" at least once BINGO Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3759	Posted - 2017.03.17 06:42:44 - [461] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: Stuff Ok, we had this discussion many many times and instead of actually taking the time to investigate the arguments against your position you just start over from the beginning like you are somehow the first one who ever experienced concern for the games future. Here is a break down for you: Highsec aggression mechanics have been nerfed many many times over the last years. The game actually had his biggest growth in terms of new players when Highsec was much more dangerous than today. The conclusion of all this nerfs are that Highsec is a content less wasteland and there are only a few very organised alliances left who pirate in Highsec and pose any danger at all. Today it takes almost zero effort to make your whole gameplay in Highsec 99.9999% secure. Almost nothing ever happens there in terms of player interaction with spaceships. And despite this you once again call for more nerfs, to make Highsec even more boring and to turn it into AFK mining and mission running paradise where nothing will ever happen. I'm sure THIS TIME it will totally work and bring millions of people to the game because what they really want is not an interesting game where you can shoot spaceships, be the pirate or shoot the pirate, there has to be no pirates and what people really want is shooting rocks and red crosses in perfect security devoid of any danger and meaning. As some other poster once said: Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: Well, you know what they say? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is actually the definition of insanity. And it does not even start there. Your whole proposition that there is a problem of players quitting the game is completely flawed. You just assert that people leave because they can't handle the pressure of not being completely secure in Highsec, an effort so small every idiot running on only a hand full of brain cells can easily handle it. You have presented no reason why this assertion is true apart from your personal gut feelings. And you also seam to be completely unaware that CCP actually looked into this and tried to figure out if ganking and wardecs in Highsec are actually driving away new players. They did not just make stuff up based on their gut feelings but actually looked at the data to figure out if there is a real problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A92Ge2S8M1Y The conclusion: People who get legally (wardec, suspect, duel, etc) killed in their first 15 days by another player are more likely to subscribe and players who get illegally killed (suicide ganked) are the most likely group to subscribe. On the other hand, people who did not experience any such player interaction at all are the most likely to not subscribe to the game. It makes complete sense to me. Not because I'm a ganker, but because I'm a gamer. I did not join this game because I heard what a great AFK mining and red cross shooting simulator it was, but because of all the stories of big battles, pirates, thefts, epic player driven events which are completely impossible in other games. This stories and the environment in which this stories can happen in are the lifeblood of the game, it is why people speak about it in awe even after 13 years. How many other games which are still running after 13 years do you know where this is the case? Now your suggestion is in essence to remove even the slightest chance that something interesting could happen to the players who start the game. They are born into a world completely void of content and filled with AFK carebears which endlessly grind ore and LP which in turn becomes completely devalued for the people who actually start the game and try to earn ISK while at the keyboard. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Galaxy Pig New Order Logistics CODE. 1188	Posted - 2017.03.17 14:02:22 - [462] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: It is time for the Empires to step up their Security Forces and invest in their equipment and enforcement policies, it is time for CONCORD to expand as well. No Self respecting Leader of any Empire would permit his or her people to live in unjust conditions. No empire in the world has ever survived and flourished under anarchy. Justice is is a pillar of empire making, and a trademark of Good leaders. An Empire without Justice crumbles form within. I'm sorry, you seem to be confused. The Empires fear us, and rightly so. We're vastly more powerful and not to mention immortal. Also, the empires see suicide ganking as immortals picking on each other. They don't see us as their citizens, or even part of humanity at all. They couldn't care less that we break each other's things. Please read up on EVE lore. *Highsec is owned by players now.* Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 2146	Posted - 2017.03.17 19:48:55 - [463] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: whining tears of a sociopath I forget nothing. Guess I imagined this. This was back in 2007 or so, of course. Mining ships have gotten even MORE dangerous now. Lesse. Battle Venture, Battle Prospect, Battle Endurance, Battle Mack AND Battle Retriever, plus the new Battle Porpoise, and the legendary Battle Orca. Hell, even Rorq's have a combat fit now. To be fair, Covetors and Hulks ARE basically useless as combat ships, no matter what you try. Guess you shouldn't fly them unless you are REALLY paying attention to your environment, huh? See, you apparently play AFK Online. The rest of us do not. Sucks to be you, alas. Oh, and hear that? You know, that faint noise. That's the CCP developers laughing at you. Seriously. Look up "Ultima Online" and "PKer". Bye. Oh, and I don't want your stuff. Go give it to The Angel Project or something. I have standards, you see. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Zander Moreau The Scope Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2017.03.17 21:02:06 - [464] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: And you neglect the fact that "Joe Carebear" cannot take a shot because his ship doe snot shoot, he is AFK in a mining barge. FTFY. Let alone the fact that there can be huge disparities between low tier Tank and higher tier DPS including skills which can result in a barge being blown out within 5 seconds where AFK or not would not matter at all. There is no way for you to know that someone was AFK, maybe simply they were there trying to be inconspicuous and not attract aggression towards them oblivious to the fact that you were out to get them. Plus, even if they were AFK, since when is that a crime? Who are we to punish people for having been called in the next room or went to the bathroom while the ship was mining? You speak like if everyone is expected to play like robots, and they should be punished if not. It sounds like prejudice and harassment. Not to mention that it certainly is imposing certain mindset to other players. your mindset. It is this mindset in my opinion that is limiting EVE. I'll call you out on this here. The thing that makes EVE so exciting is that it is FULL PVP. It's one of the things that drew me to EVE in the first place. That, and the metagaming aspect that has developed. The thing is that people are NOT supposed to feel safe anywhere in this game. That is the nature of EVE. You either adapt to it or get steamrolled by it. Your choice. Now one thing that you need to remember here is that it's also a sandbox game for us players to make of it what we will. Since when is AFK a crime? Since a bunch of people declared High Sec their territory and started enforcing their rule over it, that's when! "Oh but you can't claim High Sec..." I hear you start to say. Oh shut up. Back in the early days when you couldn't claim sov over space, you simply declared a star system or three yours and you enforced your rule over it. Plain and Simple. It was accepted back then and y'all should be accepting it now. Corps claim little sections of space all the time as 'theirs' the only difference I see is that while corps claim it, CODE actually is enforcing it. As to your earlier claim 'miners/freighters don't have guns to shoot back at criminals with'. I don't care. They also didn't have to undock and run the risk of being shot at either. Over the course of my long (albeit sporadic) EVE playing, I've been ganked, jumped, shook down, and CONCORDED. Do you hear me complaining about it? No. I learned more from each experience and adapted my strategy and tactics. I'm more wary in High Sec than I am in Low or Null. Every time I log into EVE I say 'this is a PVP game, I am going to be killed by someone.'. The sooner you carebears get THAT mantra through your heads the better off we all will be. So back to the OP: should we be nerfing ganking? Hell. No. IMO, if you cannot handle the, repeat after me, "FULL PVP" aspect of this game then may I suggest you go back to a cute and cuddly game like World of Warcraft. I hear that they need more carebears in the Alliance over there. "We will bring you love... and by love, I mean lasers." Pope Maximillian Singularity VI, First of His Name
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 2148	Posted - 2017.03.17 21:12:47 - [465] - Quote Zander Moreau wrote: wisdom Your jib sir. I like the cut of it. Have a cookie and some ISK. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Zander Moreau The Scope Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2017.03.17 22:25:14 - [466] - Quote Mike Adoulin wrote: Zander Moreau wrote: wisdom Your jib sir. I like the cut of it. Have a cookie and some ISK. \o/ Woo! Thank you! I shall put it to good use! "We will bring you love... and by love, I mean lasers." Pope Maximillian Singularity VI, First of His Name
Sivar Ahishatsu Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1	Posted - 2017.03.17 22:36:38 - [467] - Quote Zander Moreau wrote: Same old ganker rhetoric First of all, to those that say the game is about freedom and is made so that we do what we want, you forget something. Your freedom stops where someone else's freedom starts. meaning that the you do not have more right to what you want than anyone else. meaning that the unnamed miner has equal right to decide to go mine and has a right to be able to mine without you coming along and preventing him to mine out of a self-established mindset that somehow the miner decided to become your victim the moment they embarked in a mining ship and unlocked. What utter Rubish! The truth is that gankers are cowards in reality, that seek a cheap thrill of getting an easy kill from easy targets. This is not about PVP. PVP implies two or more sides that are capable of engaging in combat. When you shoot down a miner that is not PvP. Plus the game provides many ways to PvP, is really PvP is what you seek. You can run Faction PvP, you can go to Nullsec for AdHoc PvP, you can go to Wormholes for again AdHoc PvP, you can join a Nulsec Corp/Alliance for much PVP. You do not have to "hunt" players who do not wish to PvP and and unable to do so at the moment of your attack. Lets make something Very clear here, I am not against PvP in EVE, I am not against Sandbox Open Ended environment either. There are many ways to PvP in EVE and available to all at your leisure. What I am against is the unequal violence of people who want to take it out towards people who did not seek any of it. You say that is what makes you play this game, I can understand this. What I am saying is that many people are not playing the game for the same reason as you. Can, you, understand that? Not everyone wants to PvP all the time and everywhere. Not everyone appreciates your mindset and not everyone agrees with it. Many people DO NOT consider that undocking from the station in mining ship is a license issued to you to come and blow them up. But you know what the reality of it all is too? Most people like that simply walk away and do not spend their time hanging out in the forums and overwhelming threads with their rhetoric and mindset. Many people wish for changes in EVE. And Some much more drastic than what I think is even needed. Most of these potential players of EVE are not as vocal as the ones who wish to maintain the status quo. Normally I do not even bother to come here and post. I spend my time playing the game instead. But now I dedicated a couple of days to be vocal too and I made a simple suggestion. To have a place for all these other people who wish to play EVE without violence imposed on them for its other MMORPG aspects than PVP. And you all feel threatened and take offense, like if you would lose something when as mentioned before the game is full of what you claim to like. PvP. As for the notion of Full PVP. I am m sorry this is not a Full PVP game, this is first and foremost an MMORPG which contains much more substance than PvP. And I certainly did not come to play EVE only for PVP. If I wanted to play a Full PVP game I can play World of Tanks/Warships, Spaceships, LoL, Over-watch, any any other MOBA out there. Actually there are others which are more persistent than MOBAs..MMOS such as Planetside 2, Wolrd War II Online, and many Others, and are Full PVP MMO games. No RPG elements no Mining no Crafting no Industry no Economy, no Role Play etc..None of that is needed to have PVP. Yet for some reason what many of you are pushing here is a mindset which claims that none of that is actually important. And that only PVP is in an MMORPG. This is a false view, I am sorry. EVE is not a full PvP game. Even is what you like most maybe the PvP aspect, go PvP where Pvp is meant to be played. Why impose it on people who wish to play with the many and equally important other aspects of it? There is a reason why many people stay in Empire space. May Bob bless you!
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3914	Posted - 2017.03.17 22:56:04 - [468] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: Zander Moreau wrote: Same old ganker rhetoric First of all, to those that say the game is about freedom and is made so that we do what we want, you forget something. Your freedom stops where you can no longer enforce it Fixed it for you Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Zander Moreau The Scope Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2017.03.17 23:11:28 - [469] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: Same old Carebear rhetoric that has been disproven time and time again. There is no carebear implication here. PVP is PLAINLY defined as "Player Versus Player" Not: Player with Guns versus Player with Guns. Not: Player who wants to fight occasionally versus Player who wants to fight all the time. Not: Player who wants to do PVE versus Player who wants to fight occasionally. Not: Player who is capable of combat versus Player who might be capable of combat. Not: Player who is fitted for Ratting versus Player who is fitted for hunting. Player. Versus. Player. PERIOD. You can spout all the nonsense you want and justify your whining (hey, whatever helps you sleep at night, bro) but at the base of this all, EVE is a PVP game no matter WHAT you claim. CCP has even said as much and if you can't stand it then go somewhere else. Minecraft might be nice and safe for you. May James 315 guide you to the Light. "We will bring you love... and by love, I mean lasers." Pope Maximillian Singularity VI, First of His Name
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 2149	Posted - 2017.03.17 23:23:18 - [470] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: EVE is not a full PvP game. Yes, it is. Go ask CCP Guard. Or CCP....anybody at all. You click the undock button....you just consented to Getting Blowed Up, By Anybody, For ANY Reason. Deal with it. Better yet, go play Star Trek Online. No PVP there, you betcha. You can even be a miner. And its free. Bye bye. lights up the pipe Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3766	Posted - 2017.03.18 00:12:10 - [471] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: An astonishing amount of carebear tears Seriously, calm down miner Maybe you should actually look at the game FAQ and inform yourself about the type of game you are playing. It seams you have some very wrong ideas about the game. But not all is lost. Did you know that 5 years ago, a true hero set forth to rescue Highsec from its desolate state? This Saviour, the great James 315 was elected Supreme Protector of Highsec by the whole Highsec community and he ratified the new law of Highsec, which is known as The New Halaima Code of Conduct. With it came the promise of civilisation. Because James 315 in his wisdom knows you better than you know yourself miner. He knows all your problems and shortcomings and he knows what you really need and your post clearly shows that. You need to be ruled, you need guidance and leadership, because the common miner is not fit for the realities of New Eden on his own. For the low price of 10mil ISK and your complete obedience to the Code you don't have to fear ganking and can mine in peace, for a better healthier Highsec. And you can have that right now, they don't even have to change the game. Isn't that great? the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.18 00:31:12 - [472] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: An astonishing amount of carebear tears Seriously, calm down miner Maybe you should actually look at the game FAQ and inform yourself about the type of game you are playing. It seams you have some very wrong ideas about the game. But not all is lost. Did you know that 5 years ago, a true hero set forth to rescue Highsec from its desolate state? This Saviour, the great James 315 was elected Supreme Protector of Highsec by the whole Highsec community and he ratified the new law of Highsec, which is known as The New Halaima Code of Conduct. With it came the promise of civilisation. Because James 315 in his wisdom knows you better than you know yourself miner. He knows all your problems and shortcomings and he knows what you really need and your post clearly shows that. You need to be ruled, you need guidance and leadership, because the common miner is not fit for the realities of New Eden on his own. For the low price of 10mil ISK and your complete obedience to the Code you don't have to fear ganking and can mine in peace, for a better healthier Highsec. And you can have that right now, they don't even have to change the game. Isn't that great? NOT this code james crap again... MOVE ON code is dead code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Zander Moreau The Scope Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2017.03.18 00:38:41 - [473] - Quote And people have been saying CODE is dead for how many years now? Looks to me they're still going strong. "We will bring you love... and by love, I mean lasers." Pope Maximillian Singularity VI, First of His Name
Jacques d'Orleans 3013	Posted - 2017.03.18 01:20:02 - [474] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: An astonishing amount of carebear tears Seriously, calm down miner Maybe you should actually look at the game FAQ and inform yourself about the type of game you are playing. It seams you have some very wrong ideas about the game. But not all is lost. Did you know that 5 years ago, a true hero set forth to rescue Highsec from its desolate state? This Saviour, the great James 315 was elected Supreme Protector of Highsec by the whole Highsec community and he ratified the new law of Highsec, which is known as The New Halaima Code of Conduct. With it came the promise of civilisation. Because James 315 in his wisdom knows you better than you know yourself miner. He knows all your problems and shortcomings and he knows what you really need and your post clearly shows that. You need to be ruled, you need guidance and leadership, because the common miner is not fit for the realities of New Eden on his own. For the low price of 10mil ISK and your complete obedience to the Code you don't have to fear ganking and can mine in peace, for a better healthier Highsec. And you can have that right now, they don't even have to change the game. Isn't that great? NOT this code james crap again... MOVE ON code is dead NOT this Hazel Tucker TS crap again... MOVE ON Hazel is nuts FTFY Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
Sere O'Asis Summer Evenings and Autumn Skies 154	Posted - 2017.03.18 01:27:53 - [475] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: Zander Moreau wrote: Same old ganker rhetoric Your freedom stops where someone else's freedom starts. meaning that the you do not have more right to what you want than anyone else. meaning that the unnamed miner has equal right to decide to go mine and has a right to be able to mine without you coming along and preventing him to mine out of a self-established mindset that somehow the miner decided to become your victim the moment they embarked in a mining ship and unlocked.! This I feel is the crux of the dispute. "Your freedom stops where someone else's freedom starts" is applicable in real life if your local courts/government agree, it is not applicable to the game as it is currently sold. "meaning that the you do not have more right to what you want than anyone else" I am not disputing this. "meaning that the unnamed miner has equal right to decide to go mine" absolutely agree. "and has a right to be able to mine without you coming along and preventing him to mine" this does not exist in game as the game is currently. EVE Online, I'll quote again, "In EVE Online, any player may attack any other player if they choose to, no matter where they happen to be. This is because EVE Online is essentially a PvP (Player versus Player) game at its core." This is from page 15, of the EVE-Online New Pilot FAQ. Here is the link: https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/communityassets/pdf/EVE-Online-New-Pilot-FAQ.pdf The gameplay you advocate so passionately for, in the quoted post, does not exist in EVE Online currently. It may never exist. Any character in this game can at any time violence any other character......if the other character......is so situationally blind as to allow it. Every player can take steps to pursue their desired type of gameplay, but must contend with the gameplay of every other player. Each player must decide for themself how they will contest each situation in which they find themselves. Will they be informed? React? Retaliate? Will they seek the counsel of others? Form groups for support? Or hide in the sand? But this game is a sand box, not a bottomless sand pit. In EVE Online not only do you confront other players, but you confront your own character.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 28057	Posted - 2017.03.18 01:32:41 - [476] - Quote Sere O'Asis wrote: Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: Zander Moreau wrote: Same old ganker rhetoric Your freedom stops where someone else's freedom starts. meaning that the you do not have more right to what you want than anyone else. meaning that the unnamed miner has equal right to decide to go mine and has a right to be able to mine without you coming along and preventing him to mine out of a self-established mindset that somehow the miner decided to become your victim the moment they embarked in a mining ship and unlocked.! This I feel is the crux of the dispute. "Your freedom stops where someone else's freedom starts" is applicable in real life if your local courts/government agree, it is not applicable to the game as it is currently sold. "meaning that the you do not have more right to what you want than anyone else" I am not disputing this. "meaning that the unnamed miner has equal right to decide to go mine" absolutely agree. "and has a right to be able to mine without you coming along and preventing him to mine" this does not exist in game as the game is currently. EVE Online, I'll quote again, "In EVE Online, any player may attack any other player if they choose to, no matter where they happen to be. This is because EVE Online is essentially a PvP (Player versus Player) game at its core." This is from page 15, of the EVE-Online New Pilot FAQ. Here is the link: https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/communityassets/pdf/EVE-Online-New-Pilot-FAQ.pdf The gameplay you advocate so passionately for, in the quoted post, does not exist in EVE Online currently. It may never exist. Any character in this game can at any time violence any other character......if the other character......is so situationally blind as to allow it. Every player can take steps to pursue their desired type of gameplay, but must contend with the gameplay of every other player. Each player must decide for themself how they will contest each situation in which they find themselves. Will they be informed? React? Retaliate? Will they seek the counsel of others? Form groups for support? Or hide in the sand? But this game is a sand box, not a bottomless sand pit. In EVE Online not only do you confront other players, but you confront your own character. Not empty quoting. From page 21 of the new player FAQ. Quote: Furthermore, as we mentioned previously, once you enter New Eden you must consider every action you take as a form of PvP since this is the core game concept. In the asteroid field youGÇÖre competing with other pilots to obtain resources; you may also have to defend against ore thieves. On the market you battle for control of the economy in certain areas; for the supply and demand of your products versus other aspiring tycoons. On the battlefield you may fight for glory, for money, or for the right to rule whole areas of space. As always in EVE, itGÇÖs your choice. TL;DR Eve is first and foremost a PvP game, one in which everything is PvP; it's not limited to shooting other people in the face. In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.18 01:38:24 - [477] - Quote NOT this Hazel Tucker TS crap again... MOVE ON Hazel is nuts calm down ganker, toss my salad. code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Jacques d'Orleans 3013	Posted - 2017.03.18 01:52:07 - [478] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: NOT this Hazel Tucker TS crap again... MOVE ON Hazel is nuts calm down ganker, toss my salad. God, isn't he/she/it cute, can't even quote properly. Maybe you should use this, it give you some serious relaxation Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.18 03:52:12 - [479] - Quote sighs code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Jacques d'Orleans 3017	Posted - 2017.03.18 10:54:51 - [480] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: sighs Don't sigh, Hazel, it's ok. The CODE wins! Always! Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.

Yebo Lakatosh KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 105	Posted - 2017.03.18 12:02:40 - [481] - Quote I refuse to believe that Hazel Tucker is real. I think she's just a frigment of EvE's collective imagination. But if I'm wrong and she's real... she's the most magnificient creation of The Code. Well, besides the code itself. They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.18 17:38:08 - [482] - Quote code can toss my salad in jita at high noon code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 28061	Posted - 2017.03.18 18:11:40 - [483] - Quote ^^ The only tosser in the thread. In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Zander Moreau New Order Logistics CODE. 19	Posted - 2017.03.18 18:48:35 - [484] - Quote Hazel Tucker: consoling gank victim's tears and giving carebear hugs since it's the only thing she seems to be good at. "We will bring you love... and by love, I mean lasers." Pope Maximillian Singularity VI, First of His Name
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.18 23:22:53 - [485] - Quote I FINALLY ( after looking for a LOOOOONG TIME) saw a person that had the stupid I payed these 4 heads10m for a permit thing in their bio. sO I did a C&P and now I have a permit 6U code 4 heads.. I WIN !!! code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3920	Posted - 2017.03.18 23:41:17 - [486] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: code can toss my salad in jita at high noon McRee? Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 1049	Posted - 2017.03.19 02:49:27 - [487] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: banter wat Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Zander Moreau New Order Logistics CODE. 25	Posted - 2017.03.19 02:54:36 - [488] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: I FINALLY ( after looking for a LOOOOONG TIME) saw a person that had the stupid I payed these 4 heads10m for a permit thing in their bio. sO I did a C&P and now I have a permit 6U code 4 heads.. I WIN !!! W... T... F...? Can someone who speaks Hazel Tuckerese translate this? "We will bring you love... and by love, I mean lasers." Pope Maximillian Singularity VI, First of His Name
Star Burstie CTRL-Q No Handlebars. 16	Posted - 2017.03.19 06:34:43 - [489] - Quote Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: sighs Don't sigh, Hazel, it's ok. The CODE wins! Always! Code forfeit against RvB in the AT in 2015 :P Thats not winning ^^
Jacques d'Orleans 3021	Posted - 2017.03.19 11:44:00 - [490] - Quote Zander Moreau wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: I FINALLY ( after looking for a LOOOOONG TIME) saw a person that had the stupid I payed these 4 heads10m for a permit thing in their bio. sO I did a C&P and now I have a permit 6U code 4 heads.. I WIN !!! W... T... F...? Can someone who speaks Hazel Tuckerese translate this? Yeah sure, I'll translate. In english In german In japanese In russian Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.

Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 1052	Posted - 2017.03.19 13:06:45 - [491] - Quote Star Burstie wrote: Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: sighs Don't sigh, Hazel, it's ok. The CODE wins! Always! Code forfeit against RvB in the AT in 2015 :P Thats not winning ^^ People are still talking about it, and I'm pretty sure it was in 2014 too. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Zander Moreau New Order Logistics CODE. 31	Posted - 2017.03.19 18:45:46 - [492] - Quote Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Zander Moreau wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: I FINALLY ( after looking for a LOOOOONG TIME) saw a person that had the stupid I payed these 4 heads10m for a permit thing in their bio. sO I did a C&P and now I have a permit 6U code 4 heads.. I WIN !!! W... T... F...? Can someone who speaks Hazel Tuckerese translate this? Yeah sure, I'll translate. In english In german In japanese In russian ROFLMAO. Well played, sir! "We will bring you love... and by love, I mean lasers." Pope Maximillian Singularity VI, First of His Name
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.19 20:01:05 - [493] - Quote FU#K YOU code !! I FINALLY ( after looking for a LOOOOONG TIME) saw a person that had the stupid I payed for a permit thing in their bio. sO I did a C&P and now I have a permit .. I WIN !!! code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 1052	Posted - 2017.03.19 20:09:20 - [494] - Quote Guys, I think we have a breakdown in our hands Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Jacques d'Orleans 3022	Posted - 2017.03.19 22:27:39 - [495] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Guys, I think we have a breakdown in our hands I always thought her breaking point was 8.5 inch and connected to a guy named Lamarr. Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.20 00:21:58 - [496] - Quote Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Guys, I think we have a breakdown in our hands I always thought her breaking point was 8.5 inch and connected to a guy named Lamarr. Awwww sweetie I don' t do anyone under 10 in. code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Zander Moreau New Order Logistics CODE. 32	Posted - 2017.03.20 00:40:58 - [497] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Guys, I think we have a breakdown in our hands I always thought her breaking point was 8.5 inch and connected to a guy named Lamarr. Awwww sweetie I don' t do anyone under 10 in. Well that's okay since anyone who's 10" wouldn't waste their time with your whining butt. "We will bring you love... and by love, I mean lasers." Pope Maximillian Singularity VI, First of His Name
Areen Sassel 177	Posted - 2017.03.20 03:52:57 - [498] - Quote Zander Moreau wrote: Well that's okay since anyone who's 10" wouldn't waste their time with your whining butt. Given the distribution of dimensions in humanity, they'd also be too busy eating their hay.
Jacques d'Orleans 3024	Posted - 2017.03.20 06:23:05 - [499] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Guys, I think we have a breakdown in our hands I always thought her breaking point was 8.5 inch and connected to a guy named Lamarr. Awwww sweetie I don' t do anyone under 10 in. Luv, 10 cm ain't 10 in. Just sayin' Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
Jacques d'Orleans 3024	Posted - 2017.03.20 06:24:05 - [500] - Quote Areen Sassel wrote: Zander Moreau wrote: Well that's okay since anyone who's 10" wouldn't waste their time with your whining butt. Given the distribution of dimensions in humanity, they'd also be too busy eating their hay. PSA: Coffee thru my nose hurts! Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.

Yebo Lakatosh KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 115	Posted - 2017.03.20 09:20:02 - [501] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: saw a person that had the stupid I payed for a permit thing in their bio. sO I did a C&P and now I have a permit .. I WIN !!! I wonder if people took the effort I did to thoroughly analize the above message in order to decypher it's hidden meaning. It was a good trick from Hazel to include "C&P", as the sloppy onlooker may have assumed that she only refers to "Crime and Punishment". But the study revealed that it actually means copy-paste. And that leads us to a very grim conclusion: there is at least one counterfeit mining permit out there! I'm very afraid for the New Order now. An evil mastermine is operating to undermine the very foundation of their economy! Will they be able to deal with such malignant schemery? What if the idea spreads before it can be contained? How will they mitigate the calamity caused by such lowly but sophisticated trickery? But there is a possibility that's even more grave: what if a malevolent miner will learn to fake not just a permit, but Code-compliance too? Imagine the horror: tanked ship, watches local, greets you, does not mine excessively (or not at all in HS)... but deep down she'll still be a rebel, stealing ice when no one's looking. I have a deep fear that I just witnessed the first incident in the downfall of The Code. James 315, save us (and Highsec) from this looming evil! They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem 3924	Posted - 2017.03.20 12:47:28 - [502] - Quote Yebo Lakatosh wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: saw a person that had the stupid I payed for a permit thing in their bio. sO I did a C&P and now I have a permit .. I WIN !!! I wonder if people took the effort I did to thoroughly analize the above message in order to decypher it's hidden meaning. It was a good trick from Hazel to include "C&P", as the sloppy onlooker may have assumed that she only refers to "Crime and Punishment". But the study revealed that it actually means copy-paste. And that leads us to a very grim conclusion: there is at least one counterfeit mining permit out there! I'm very afraid for the New Order now. An evil mastermine is operating to undermine the very foundation of their economy! Will they be able to deal with such malignant schemery? What if the idea spreads before it can be contained? How will they mitigate the calamity caused by such lowly but sophisticated trickery? But there is a possibility that's even more grave: what if a malevolent miner will learn to fake not just a permit, but Code-compliance too? Imagine the horror: tanked ship, watches local, greets you, does not mine excessively (or not at all in HS)... but deep down she'll still be a rebel, stealing ice when no one's looking. I have a deep fear that I just witnessed the first incident in the downfall of The Code. James 315, save us (and Highsec) from this looming evil! This is some Nitshe level stuff right here. So he has surfaced once again... Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Yebo Lakatosh KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 117	Posted - 2017.03.20 13:35:08 - [503] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: This is some Nitshe level stuff right here. So he has surfaced once again... I'm more of a Kierkegaard person. They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.20 15:36:09 - [504] - Quote Yebo Lakatosh wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: saw a person that had the stupid I payed for a permit thing in their bio. sO I did a C&P and now I have a permit .. I WIN !!! I wonder if people took the effort I did to thoroughly analize the above message in order to decypher it's hidden meaning. It was a good trick from Hazel to include "C&P", as the sloppy onlooker may have assumed that she only refers to "Crime and Punishment". But the study revealed that it actually means copy-paste. And that leads us to a very grim conclusion: there is at least one counterfeit mining permit out there! I'm very afraid for the New Order now. An evil mastermine is operating to undermine the very foundation of their economy! Will they be able to deal with such malignant schemery? What if the idea spreads before it can be contained? How will they mitigate the calamity caused by such lowly but sophisticated trickery? But there is a possibility that's even more grave: what if a malevolent miner will learn to fake not just a permit, but Code-compliance too? Imagine the horror: tanked ship, watches local, greets you, does not mine excessively (or not at all in HS)... but deep down she'll still be a rebel, stealing ice when no one's looking. I have a deep fear that I just witnessed the first incident in the downfall of The Code. James 315, save us (and Highsec) from this looming evil! I love goonies, almost was one years ago...buzz buzz code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Areen Sassel 180	Posted - 2017.03.20 16:17:28 - [505] - Quote Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Areen Sassel wrote: Given the distribution of dimensions in humanity, they'd also be too busy eating their hay. PSA: Coffee thru my nose hurts! Even the forums have scope for PVP if approached in the right way, but I don't think the killboards collect nosecoffeemails yet.
Zander Moreau New Order Logistics CODE. 38	Posted - 2017.03.20 16:36:53 - [506] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: I love goonies, almost was one years ago...buzz buzz And how bad do you have to be for Goonswarm to deny your application again? "We will bring you love... and by love, I mean lasers." Pope Maximillian Singularity VI, First of His Name
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 28072	Posted - 2017.03.20 16:41:28 - [507] - Quote Zander Moreau wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: I love goonies, almost was one years ago...buzz buzz And how bad do you have to be for Goonswarm to deny your application again? They probably enacted the no scrubs emergency protocol for its application. In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Yebo Lakatosh KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 120	Posted - 2017.03.21 08:08:40 - [508] - Quote Zander Moreau wrote: And how bad do you have to be for Goonswarm to deny your application again? Paying a security deposit and contracting your ships for transportation without collateral usually does the trick. They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.21 17:03:22 - [509] - Quote I dont have time to devote to the game.....plus its boring. More fun to chat with you nice people here tho code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Jacques d'Orleans 3029	Posted - 2017.03.21 17:25:02 - [510] - Quote Zander Moreau wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: I love goonies, almost was one years ago...buzz buzz And how bad do you have to be for Goonswarm to deny your application again? Hazel Nuts' application to join Goons Goonswarm's reaction Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.

Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2017.03.22 00:50:20 - [511] - Quote Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Zander Moreau wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: I love goonies, almost was one years ago...buzz buzz And how bad do you have to be for Goonswarm to deny your application again? Hazel Nuts' application to join Goons Goonswarm's reaction Awwww jackie dont be so mean to me kiss kiss bang bang
Sivar Ahishatsu Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 3	Posted - 2017.03.22 01:47:23 - [512] - Quote Zander Moreau wrote: Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: Same old Carebear rhetoric that has been disproven time and time again. There is no carebear implication here. PVP is PLAINLY defined as "Player Versus Player" Not: Player with Guns versus Player with Guns. Not: Player who wants to fight occasionally versus Player who wants to fight all the time. Not: Player who wants to do PVE versus Player who wants to fight occasionally. Not: Player who is capable of combat versus Player who might be capable of combat. Not: Player who is fitted for Ratting versus Player who is fitted for hunting. Player. Versus. Player. PERIOD. . LOL!! I am having a great laugh seeing you all trying to pick apart various notions from my posts and trying to misconstrue them in to your own narrative and mindset. I enjoyed this one too, So lets talk about what is PVP in a more informed and less biased way, to not say ignorant. I Shall quote, and you can look it up yourself from Wikipedia article on "Player versus Player" Definition: Quote: Player(s) versus player(s), better known as PvP, is a type of multiplayer interactive conflict within a game between two or more live participants.[1] This is in contrast to games where players compete against computer-controlled opponents and/or players, which is referred to as player versus environment (PvE). The terms are most often used in games where both activities exist,[2] particularly MMORPGs, MUDs, and other role-playing video games. PvP can be broadly used to describe any game, or aspect of a game, where players compete against each other. PvP is often controversial when used in role-playing games. In most cases, there are vast differences in abilities between experienced and novice players. PvP can even encourage experienced players to immediately attack and kill inexperienced players.[3] PvP is sometimes called player killing. You can read about the History of PVP in MMORPG games at your leisure, I shall not go there in this reply. What I would like to draw your attention to however is the concept of Player Killing (PK) and Player Ganking. Short Definition: Quote: Player killing, or PKing, is unrestricted PvP resulting in a character's death. Some games offer open PvP (also sometimes called world PvP), where one player can attack another without warning anywhere in the game world. A pure PK game is one where PvP conflict is the only gameplay offered. Ganking (short for gang killing) is a type of PKing in which the killer has a significant advantage over his victim, such as being part of a group, being a higher level, or attacking the victim while they are at low health. There is a distinction between PVP and PK or Ganking. PvP implies a competition between two players who are able to compete with one another. In EVE PvP happens in Factional Warfare or in Nullsec Warfare. But what happens in Low Sec and Even in Warmholes is not necessarily PvP it is Player Killing. Suicide Ganks, are Player Killing. Attacking Miners and weaker Targets in Low Sec is Player Kiling. It is not PvP. Anri-PK exists because Pking is perceived as low, as coward, was criminal, as dishonourable. You do not see Anti-PvPers, you see Anti-PKillers. I have nothing against PVP as I stated in numerous times, but since we become more technical in the discussion, what I have a problem with is PKilling and I think te level of it is what discourages many players. My suggestions to expand High sec and Enforce Punishment system is not there to limit PvP, it is there to Limit Pkilling. Many keep hammering that undocking is a consent to be killed. Yet players get a game warning when they jump in to Low sec, they do not get a warning when they undock. the game's mechanics disagree with your claim and mindset. And please, I have nothing against CCP devs and nothings against their statements, but you need not hammer them either. I have been playing MMORPG's since before CCP devs were even Devs of EVE. And I am certainly not new to Sandbox full Loot non consensual PvP. It still doe snot mean that I have to like cowards who attack weaker and unnamed victims. What I have come to recognise during all these years though is that not everyone is of aggressive nature and interested in PKilling or even PvP. And there are allot of players like that. if CCP wants a piece of that pie, then they better make an environment where such types of players can also thrive and have fun. Because already there are many areas of the game that cater to the PKiller and the PvPer. But Highsec is limited and gets boring after a time, and player snot interested to PVP and PKilling simply quit. Not because they have not been attacked but because the limitations of High sec limit accessibility to more content for them to have fun with and play longer with. Some people will never switch will never change. I know of some that did, they started our being interested towards other aspects of EVE and when they got bored they got interested in conflict and that opened up other areas of the game and more content for them..but many others never get interested in conflict...EVE as it is now, condemns them to quit the game. To its loss. I am sorry but if you really care about the game (EVE) you would be forced to conclude the same, and only if you are interested in your own game (self) you would conclude otherwise. Or at least come forth with solutions that would make the game fun for others too not only yourselves, or at the least not bash those that do. At least in some hopeful hypothetical way I am not expecting everyone to be mature, it is a game forum after all.
Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 1062	Posted - 2017.03.22 02:33:13 - [513] - Quote Afaik, every PVP'ers in EVE are PKers according to your definition Because those who kill always have an advantage over the pleb they killed Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3786	Posted - 2017.03.22 06:54:48 - [514] - Quote Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: if CCP wants a piece of that pie, then they better make an environment where such types of players can also thrive and have fun. Because already there are many areas of the game that cater to the PKiller and the PvPer. They could also turn it into a Tetris clone to get a piece of the pie of the people who would rather play Tetris. To say it in your terms, EVE is a game with PK everywhere with some areas like Highsec limiting it but never making it impossible. This is what it is, always was and always will be. It is literally designed that way and it is also pretty obvious that this is intended. If you don't like this kind of game, that is ok, EVE is not for everyone, go pick one of those other MMO you mentioned which are limiting PK and have "PvP-Zones" or whatever. You make it sound like PK is some generally bad thing, like all games ever have to implement PvP in the exact same ebushido compatible way you think is the right way. There are different opinions about what is fun and what is not and that is why there are different games implementing different things differently. I find the arena style PvP of other games rather boring, they limit the setting, the outcome, the winning condition, the participants, just almost every variable. It limits PvP to fair fights, and if you like PvP with fair fights, that is ok, go play such a game. EVE does not feature fair fights. It features war, and in war you don't fight fair, you wait until you have an advantage and then you take a club so big it could kill the target twice. Do to this open and non-limiting way EVE PvP has multiple elements which are completely missing in other games and change the character of the PvP more to a type of strategy game where you have to plan ahead and be aware of your resources, your friends, the environment, your enemies resources and his friends, even random elements from other parties. All this you don't get in all those other games and that is why I'm not playing them but EVE. If I kill a miner, this miner has screwed up and he lost at PvP because he made multiple mistakes leading up to the situation he ended up in. I consider all those steps part of the PvP, that player was literally in a PvP fight while he planed to go mining and he lost because he chose the wrong fitting, was not aware of me and my scouts and did not pay attention to his environment while out in the field. I know you will probably not get this, it seams you are fixated of your idea how PvP should work in all games and there seams to be only one answer. Well you are missing out on some really intense and interesting gameplay and trade it for some in my opinion rather boring MOBA style gameplay where fights are organised in a certain way and are not allowed to emerge from the environment which would give them actual meaning rather than just some points on your character sheet. It is unfortunate that some players have this narrow mindset and literally don't understand EVE, but that's how it is and there are hundreds of MMO out there for their enjoyment. I find the organised and limited arena style PvP of those game very limiting and devoid of any meaning and interesting element. They look to me like a MOBA PvP arena which got glued to an MMO which has otherwise nothing to do with the MMO gameplay. It's more like a minigame where you can go with the same character. It is completely immersion breaking. I don't know why I have to grind for gear for days just to play some variation of capture the flag or some bs.. seriously.. So please good sir, embrace EVE for what it is and try to see the difference and meaningful emergent conflicts which exist exactly because of this difference and don't try to make it into another generic boring MMO by ripping out the soul which makes EVE the game it is, or kindly, GTFO. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Zander Moreau New Order Logistics CODE. 41	Posted - 2017.03.22 07:17:49 - [515] - Quote You know, Shivar, I'd post a rebuttal but you already proved my argument by the definitions you quoted from Wikipedia. The only thing that I disagee with is the fact that you're under some delusion of implications. There are no implications in definitions. You sound like a first year law student who knows enough to be dangerous and who thinks that they're already a lawyer. "We will bring you love... and by love, I mean lasers." Pope Maximillian Singularity VI, First of His Name
Kaely Tanniss OMGWTFBBQTIME I Know Right 730	Posted - 2017.03.22 08:02:28 - [516] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: I dont have time to devote to the game.....plus its boring. More fun to chat with you nice people here tho If you find Eve to be boring..you're doing it wrong. If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..


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