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Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.09 02:20:00 - [211] Edited by: Wylker on 09/04/2007 02:16:53 Originally by: Ranko Originally by: Wylker Go away. No thanks, I like these forums, impudent individual (only because child is too good for you). Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo what will I do he used fancy alliteration and called me a child!!!!? Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan did I mention go away? Your signature has been removed. Please contact us at [email protected] for an explaniation - Kreul Intentions
Ranko Antares Frontier The Fifth Race	Posted - 2007.04.09 02:54:00 - [212] You know, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. --- fixed my sig images from 24,241 bytes to 23,997 bytes ^_^
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.09 03:48:00 - [213] Originally by: EveryNumpty blah blah troll blah Ok..prejudice aside, would you guys even bother logging in if there was no combat? These are good times, lots of ships explode, we all have fun. To the armchair trolls, pick a side and join in or shut the fk up. And OozoO, dude, please...we told you once. Less talky..more pew pew Happy Easter
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.04.09 10:55:00 - [214] Originally by: Faceless Pokemon Whats even funnier though is that Xelas's fleet admiral, deckard, who is supposed to run their operations (if the day comes they are capable of not having AXE lead them) is that he doesnt even have leadership V. Yep, and last I asked, AXE's main FC hasn't even trained Wing Command I, so effective immediately, I guess he's capped at leading 10-man gangs. OOG skills != IG skills. --P
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:28:00 - [215] Originally by: Faceless Pokemon As for credit being given to someone for the providing D2 problems in fountain then that should soley be given to AXE. They have shown what a small number of skilled people can do. Especially considering how patient they are with the Xelas that join their gangs. They ask for nothing except to help and in return they get very little apprieciation from Xelas who take any AXE led victory as their own in the forums. I fail to understand what benefit would be garnered for either side of this conflict by running around in one-alliance gangs. I don't particularly care if XS, Coreli, Aftermath, or, heck, D2 takes credit for a kill, even if 19 pilots on the killmail are AXE, instead of the typical 5 or so. If you're bringing guns to the fight, you're welcome and appreciated. If, on the other hand, all you bring to the fight is forum-whorage, you can move right along. Feel free to find me on TS if you actually want to do any of the things you say. As it is, I'm starting to doubt whether you're even a Xelas member at all. --P
James Snowscoran Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:18:00 - [216] You just gotta love all the smacking of Xelas' worth as an alliance. If they suck so hard, why not just come down and evict them from their stations? -----
Reto The Last Resort	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:29:00 - [217] Edited by: Reto on 09/04/2007 12:25:02 Originally by: James Snowscoran You just gotta love all the smacking of Xelas' worth as an alliance. If they suck so hard, why not just come down and evict them from their stations? coz xelas isnt important enuff to redirect resources and attention to ? Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
WTS Stuff Want To Sell	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:45:00 - [218] Originally by: Reto Edited by: Reto on 09/04/2007 12:25:02 Originally by: James Snowscoran You just gotta love all the smacking of Xelas' worth as an alliance. If they suck so hard, why not just come down and evict them from their stations? coz xelas isnt important enuff to redirect resources and attention to ? I guess it is safe to assume the same about the northern stations as well then? "We did not want them in the first place anyway!" ==================== I want to sell stuff
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:09:00 - [219] Edited by: Seleene on 09/04/2007 13:07:50 Originally by: Ranko Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Ranko So a MC pilot was smartbombing people undocking, hence by-passing the 30 second invulnerability period, which I may add, does infact damage ships, I know its been done to me by the goonies when the ran around S-U in Syndicate many months back.. Incorrect. The smart bombs do jack all versus people that cannot be locked. The problem wasn't with us supposedly bypassing the undock invul delay. The problem apparently is that we're not supposed to be able to smartbomb in range of a conquerable station. Hence an MC member, knowing that they should not be able to smartbomb people/ships/whatever directly outside a station, hence an exploit, did so... Hence exploiting a known (if even only by that player) bug, issue... Hi. Welcome to EVE, a game of exactly zero factual documentation. The "exploit" you speak of has existed for as long as I can remember and has been used over and over again, most often in a DEFENSIVE role. I've watched countless alliance battleships laden with smartbombs undock from stations to decimate tacklers waiting for thier buddies to undock. I've seen IAC dreads do it outside thier own stations in F4R months and months ago. Most recently it was done against MC in our own backyard. It's a known game mechanic that is directly tied to the fact that conquerable stations and outposts cannot be targeted. Just because you and a few of your friends did not know about this doesn't mean it's something new by any stretch of the imagination. CCP loves to surprise us all with new 'features' in almost every patch. This particular mechanic has existed for as long as I can remember and I don't think I've scored more than ten kill mails off of it myself, one of which was a Sabre charging at my Nyx to bubble it up. TBH, I usually have better things to do with a 30 billion isk ship than sit in front of an undock point for hours at a time trying to kill shuttles. I do find it interesting that, until NOW, no one seemed to care about this. Seems awfully damn odd to me that suddenly this is a petiionable offense. As far as I'm concerned, if it's not a valid mechanic, I'm sure it will be patched. Oh, one more thing: This goes both ways, m8. When there are 10 frigate and 'dictors waiting outside your station entrance and you can't undock a smartbombing 'Geddon to clear them out (which is VERY common), have fun remembering it was you and your buddies that invalidated the tactic. - Vid - 'P-2 Defense'
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:16:00 - [220] Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 09/04/2007 13:14:59 Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 09/04/2007 13:13:05 Originally by: James Snowscoran Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr The problem apparently is that we're not supposed to be able to smartbomb in range of a conquerable station. "Please sir, I sware I didn't know" Pull the other one. Please do not troll - Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) Use your brains, people. Geez. Use my brains? How about I remember the patch notes when this was Edit:supposed to have been fixed, I also remember why it was fixed in the first place and big ass thread that spawned 'said' fix. I've also told members of Tri not to do it because, and I quote "If it works, its an exploit, you'll get banned" I find it really hard to believe that in an alliance of MC's stature and size noone thought "Hey that's an exploit don't do that." Originally by: Lilan Kahn Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr The problem apparently is that we're not supposed to be able to smartbomb in range of a conquerable station. "Please sir, I sware I didn't know" Pull the other one. go make another can packman around a pos then complain when the gm's get angry at the person who did it and hit the ban butten What? Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?

Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:32:00 - [221] Originally by: Seleene TBH, I usually have better things to do with a 30 billion isk ship than sit in front of an undock point for hours at a time trying to kill shuttles. Lies! You are cowering in your MS unable to stop the Grand Coalition train, reduced to this very act! ----------
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:36:00 - [222] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr I find it really hard to believe that in an alliance of MC's stature and size noone thought "Hey that's an exploit don't do that." It's really simple - I've seen this used more often by people undocking a BS with smarties to clear away frigs waiting to tackle them. Meh. Either way, if it's a bug / exploit CCP has sure taken its time to fix it. - Vid - 'P-2 Defense'
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.04.09 14:27:00 - [223] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr I find it really hard to believe that in an alliance of MC's stature and size noone thought "Hey that's an exploit don't do that." It's really simple - I've seen this used more often by people undocking a BS with smarties to clear away frigs waiting to tackle them. Meh. Either way, if it's a bug / exploit CCP has sure taken its time to fix it. I've seen wrecks and cans left at undock points to stop people from instawarping out of stations too, go figure. Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
Swirler Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.09 14:55:00 - [224] Too funny. As a former member of Shinra (LV) I can say, D2 is putting a hell of lot more fight than LV did. D2 are at least fielding their capital fleet where it could be used, and they are calling in friends; SNIGG, GOON, and RA gangs seen in and around their space to lend a hand. If LV had called in some help and used their capital fleet like D2 or RA does, they would still be in Tener. Guess LV thinks Capitals are better used to jump goods to empire. 8-) Originally by: James 315 Come on D2, don't be lame, get your act together. Failing that, POS-spam the hell out of everything. You don't want to be the next LV, do you?
Boci The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:23:00 - [225] Edited by: Boci on 09/04/2007 15:24:32 Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 09/04/2007 13:07:50 Originally by: Ranko Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Ranko So a MC pilot was smartbombing people undocking, hence by-passing the 30 second invulnerability period, which I may add, does infact damage ships, I know its been done to me by the goonies when the ran around S-U in Syndicate many months back.. Incorrect. The smart bombs do jack all versus people that cannot be locked. The problem wasn't with us supposedly bypassing the undock invul delay. The problem apparently is that we're not supposed to be able to smartbomb in range of a conquerable station. Hence an MC member, knowing that they should not be able to smartbomb people/ships/whatever directly outside a station, hence an exploit, did so... Hence exploiting a known (if even only by that player) bug, issue... Hi. Welcome to EVE, a game of exactly zero factual documentation. The "exploit" you speak of has existed for as long as I can remember and has been used over and over again, most often in a DEFENSIVE role. I've watched countless alliance battleships laden with smartbombs undock from stations to decimate tacklers waiting for thier buddies to undock. I've seen IAC dreads do it outside thier own stations in F4R months and months ago. Most recently it was done against MC in our own backyard. It's a known game mechanic that is directly tied to the fact that conquerable stations and outposts cannot be targeted. Just because you and a few of your friends did not know about this doesn't mean it's something new by any stretch of the imagination. CCP loves to surprise us all with new 'features' in almost every patch. This particular mechanic has existed for as long as I can remember and I don't think I've scored more than ten kill mails off of it myself, one of which was a Sabre charging at my Nyx to bubble it up. TBH, I usually have better things to do with a 30 billion isk ship than sit in front of an undock point for hours at a time trying to kill shuttles. I do find it interesting that, until NOW, no one seemed to care about this. Seems awfully damn odd to me that suddenly this is a petiionable offense. As far as I'm concerned, if it's not a valid mechanic, I'm sure it will be patched. Oh, one more thing: This goes both ways, m8. When there are 10 frigate and 'dictors waiting outside your station entrance and you can't undock a smartbombing 'Geddon to clear them out (which is VERY common), have fun remembering it was you and your buddies that invalidated the tactic. If its an exploit to smartbomb next to a station, theres alot of people out there in trouble, including me ;) I lost count of the number of fighters, AFs, Intys and Frigs my bombaphoon killed during the ASCN war. If they wanted to sit on the undock tryin to gank people, I was more then happy to undock and bomb away ^^
Reto The Last Resort	Posted - 2007.04.09 16:03:00 - [226] Originally by: WTS Stuff Originally by: Reto Edited by: Reto on 09/04/2007 12:25:02 Originally by: James Snowscoran You just gotta love all the smacking of Xelas' worth as an alliance. If they suck so hard, why not just come down and evict them from their stations? coz xelas isnt important enuff to redirect resources and attention to ? I guess it is safe to assume the same about the northern stations as well then? "We did not want them in the first place anyway!" well i dont know anything about d2s outpost under siege so ill refrain from posting an opinion but still if d2 does not defend their outposts at all costs, its their thing, be it tactical in nature or not. Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
H3ndrix Middle Finger Technology Ghosts Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.09 19:08:00 - [227] Edited by: H3ndrix on 09/04/2007 19:14:51 Edited by: H3ndrix on 09/04/2007 19:07:07 Edited by: H3ndrix on 09/04/2007 19:04:43 Originally by: Faceless Pokemon D2 never attacked PNQY. so what about the 120 v 120 battle in pnqy a couple months back where xelas + fix sent 95% of hostiles home via pod express, maybe not a massive assault but an attempt at one none the less, you sir are a fukin idiot, post with your main you got something to say or STFU
Visionsz Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.04.09 19:43:00 - [228] Xelas undocked? Just some pics!
Visionsz Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.04.09 19:43:00 - [229] Xelas undocked? Just some pics!
ElweSingollo The Vanyar	Posted - 2007.04.10 01:31:00 - [230] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr I find it really hard to believe that in an alliance of MC's stature and size noone thought "Hey that's an exploit don't do that." It's really simple - I've seen this used more often by people undocking a BS with smarties to clear away frigs waiting to tackle them. Meh. Either way, if it's a bug / exploit CCP has sure taken its time to fix it. Come on seleene you know CCP's turn around on some bugs in fact often times CCP get bugs reported they fall of the table only for CCP to go huh when the issue is raised again. CCP and Eve Online... It's not a bug, it's a feature

Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.10 02:22:00 - [231] It's nice to see that every thread about this war now degenerates into a coalition fanboi crying "OMG THEY ARE SPLOITING". Oh wait, it's been like that since the war started. Your signature has been removed. Please contact us at [email protected] for an explaniation - Kreul Intentions
Turin Shroud Gallente Fermentation Process	Posted - 2007.04.10 15:08:00 - [232] Seems D2 just lost c4c station the central hub in fade End game?
Turin Shroud Gallente Fermentation Process	Posted - 2007.04.10 15:08:00 - [233] Seems D2 just lost c4c station the central hub in fade End game?
Prophet Malcalypse3 Amarr Her Golden Apple Corps	Posted - 2007.04.10 15:10:00 - [234] d2 no longer seems to control c4c judging by the map. so, whats the new station name?
Prophet Malcalypse3 Amarr Her Golden Apple Corps	Posted - 2007.04.10 15:10:00 - [235] d2 no longer seems to control c4c judging by the map. so, whats the new station name?
Laboratus Gallente BGG Alektorophobia	Posted - 2007.04.10 15:27:00 - [236] Originally by: Turin Shroud Seems D2 just lost c4c station the central hub in fade End game? c4c is one of the systems in a deadend constellation. Anyways, the station name atm seems to be "MC Infallible Omen". L-C would be the central hub. May the station ping pong commence. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Turin Shroud Gallente Fermentation Process	Posted - 2007.04.10 15:31:00 - [237] Originally by: Laboratus Originally by: Turin Shroud Seems D2 just lost c4c station the central hub in fade End game? c4c is one of the systems in a deadend constellation. Anyways, the station name atm seems to be "MC Infallible Omen". L-C would be the central hub. May the station ping pong commence. c4c = refinery methinks that is the hub. c4c has always been the hub of fade, ask anyone.
R0niN kR0	Posted - 2007.04.10 16:00:00 - [238] seems that from that coalition famous word "see ya in NOL in a week" will be see ya in BKG soon
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.04.10 16:03:00 - [239] c4c down? me likes
General Windypops Gallente Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2007.04.10 16:15:00 - [240] I give it a month before Coallition formally gives up the ghost and disbands. For now, we just get to enjoy watching it dismantle.



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