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SpawnSupreme	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:13:00 - [1] i think there should be a new mod added for ships. this mod can set in any high medium or low slot example of purpose say you put it in high spot it can grant itgrants you 1 medium and 1 low slot to open up for ship mods to be fit. say if fitted to a scorpian in high slot it cant gain medium slot so make the medium slot turn into 2 low slots making the scorpian have 5 high 8 medium and 6 low. or if you fit one on medium slot of scorpian you would have 6 high 7 medium and 6 lows. or say you fit this mod in a high slot on typhoon then you would have wind up having 7 high slots 5 medium and 8 lows. these step downs require no energy but if you want to step up you lose 1 slot to gain 1 higher slot example if you place it in low to get mor medium slots just like the mwd it will eat up 15%cap if you put it in medium slot to get a high then example place in medium slot of scorpian now the scorpian has 7 high slots 7 medium slots and 4 low slots. this will promote more diversaty in ship set ups rather than everyone have the same ship and mods plus it can make any ship.
korrey Taurus Inc	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:17:00 - [2] A: Thats hard to read, could you please put spaces after each few sentences. B: The idea was thought about by CCP and scrapped, there were too many things that could go wrong. And some ships just dont need more slots...(AKA Damnation reaaaaally doesnt need 8 lows to tank with, it does quite well with only 6.) ----------- 24.01.06 Small patch that addresses some minor balancing issues 1) All minmatar pilots have been deleted
Gladiator Jonny	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:18:00 - [3] 1st: knock down that damn wall and learn about the "enter" key. 2nd: thats a pritty stupid idea (if i read it right as i started to get bored and just skip to bits of it). im using the myrmidon as an example.. it already has a fairly awsome passive shield tank, and as the high slots arent its primary wep slots, it could easily sacrifice 6 slots for 3 meds and form an awsome passive tank so... 3rd: did you really think this through? if my comments dont make sence its prolly because i couldnt make sense of the big brick of text so, correct me or feel free to break your post into bits for more useful info.
Marduk Felzhen	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:19:00 - [4] i didnt think it was possible, but after reading his other topic and this one, my brain has exploded a second time
Gladiator Jonny	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:22:00 - [5] Originally by: Marduk Felzhen i didnt think it was possible, but after reading his other topic and this one, my brain has exploded a second time i feel your pain... i really do.
Mathias Orsen	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:32:00 - [6] by the layout of your post.... I'd guess your actually serious about this. It's a great Idea. I could then make my domi able to take on anything. I could even give my Myrmidon the ability to tank better than a hyperion. Ohh how i would love to trade those useless high slots for more EW and tanking. More EW and i got less hitting me. tracking disruptors, and damps for those at long range. More Low slots... OHH YEA!!. Then I could tank ohh say... ANYTHING HMM only one problem... everyone's ship would have slots such as 3-8-8 and be just as good... Now I'm starting to think this post was placed for laugh or lack of any kinda thought Don't I feel stupid now... Let's forget all about it. High to medium to low is in no way a step down. For many of us, low slots are the most valuable. They are the ones that tank, multiply damage with damage mods, give us the power to equip bigger guns etc. Medium slots are the ones that stop you from getting away from your certain doom. If they were step downs, then we would have High power, medium power, low power weapons, tank gear and blah blah blah. Just imagine a vexor that tanked like a Dominix but just did 40% less damage and had less nosf. Vexor with 8 low slots, 8 medium slots would be much better than a BS is today. Sure, you got less cap, PG, cpu, and hitpoints... But you can fix most of that with mods. with those 8 slots, You can easily EW most ships to the point they can't even damage you. Give the Hyperion the ability to hold 8 low slot mods and 8 mid slot mods and all It would need is a single gun and 4 warp scramblers, It could then tank fleets. -------------------------------------- ---"What's in your wallet?"--- "There are two kinds of respect, fear and admiration.... I'll take what I can get"
SpawnSupreme	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:36:00 - [7] it is siple as making it work like mwd you can only fit 1 per ship. sorry i will modify my post to be easier on your fragile minds
smallgreenblur Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:38:00 - [8] Again, I want those 2 minutes of my life back. sgb
SpawnSupreme	Posted - 2007.04.09 18:13:00 - [9] if the idea was thought up by ccp it cant be a bad idea... they just needed a simple salution to make it work and i fixed it. shild tanking is bettr than armor tanking but most ships prefer armor tanking. this can give diversity allowing a shild tanker to have option to armor tank or give up offence for tanking. it can even allow to sac some tank or elect warfare for more guns. doing so changes the ballance of ship design. more guns means better PVP more low mods means better PVE
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.04.09 18:20:00 - [10] Originally by: SpawnSupreme if the idea was thought up by ccp it cant be a bad idea... they just needed a simple salution to make it work and i fixed it. Maybe it was rejected because it was a bad idea. Originally by: SpawnSupreme shild tanking is bettr than armor tanking but most ships prefer armor tanking. Says who? Originally by: SpawnSupreme this can give diversity allowing a shild tanker to have option to armor tank or give up offence for tanking. Any ship can either shield or armor tank, some do it better than others. Your idea would create massive game imbalance. Originally by: SpawnSupreme it can even allow to sac some tank or elect warfare for more guns. doing so changes the ballance of ship design. And why would CCP want that? Originally by: SpawnSupreme more guns means better PVP Not really. Originally by: SpawnSupreme more low mods means better PVE Not really. I suspect you're new to Eve. Can I suggest you complete the tutorial and join a corp that caters to new players? They can be invaluable in helping you to settle in. --- Originally by: CCP Sharkbait will explain when i have the time i promise
Emperors Assassin	Posted - 2007.04.09 19:30:00 - [11] it would not be massive imballance cuz yes you can tank better but someone who as another gun will eat your shilds. if you limit it to only 1 mod that modifys these ship slots, then you will not see a drastic change. OVERALL IT IS A GIVE AND TAKE IF YOU WANT POWER GIVE UP TANK IF YOU WANT TANK GIVE UP POWER! how can a mod that limits itself cause imballance?
Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2007.04.09 19:34:00 - [12] I have an awesome idea too. It involves using the shift key now and then. It also involves spelling names of ships correctly. As they say, there is no r in faction, a in Scorpion, or n in turret. ---------------- If you're on IE, pretend this is transparent while you get a browser that supports .png.
SpawnSupreme	Posted - 2007.04.09 20:33:00 - [13] marky mark your just argueing for argue sake i can tell by your responces. i state facts and calculated sugestions and you give me your rebuttle with nothing more than a childs (nunt uh!) or (no) or (wont work). i am one of militaries finest awarded stratagist in real life i dont come up with a plan unless i can assure the outcome is greater than the setback. i have improved on the original idea and by my calculations they will not make much a differance. amar galente and half of minmitar ships are designed for armor tank cildari and the other half of minmitar ships shild tank that is where i get my facts from. why wouldnt ccp want to enhance the pvpers? they always complain its to hard to get a good kill and the innocent always complain it is to hard to escape. yes a shild tanker in pvp is in a large group not solo if you see a solo tanker in pvp they lose and it is proven time and time again by pirates with paper thin ships.
xHalcyonx Amarr EmpiresMod	Posted - 2007.04.09 20:43:00 - [14] Edited by: xHalcyonx on 09/04/2007 20:41:28 Originally by: SpawnSupreme i am one of militaries finest awarded stratagist in real life i dont come up with a plan unless i can assure the outcome is greater than the setback. Being a SupCom Armchair General doesn't count. Your idea is loosely cobbled together. CCP thought of this idea and rejected it as game imbalancing. The reason is that Tanks and Ganks would become overpowered and the PvP experience would again be hurt such as when the armor boosts recently took place. Gain experience in the game, then come back and make posts. PS: Get some grammar, spelling, and sentence composition training. EDIT: I could pick apart your above post, but that would be rather cruel.
SpawnSupreme	Posted - 2007.04.09 21:43:00 - [15] im work with intell. i plan where navy seals strike i plan thier escape. i sit with a board of others who plan special opps. it in bread into me to see all aspects because profesional lives depend on the planning. i have a jenalist on my team that spells worse than me who prints up orders. all i need to know how to do is point and think! this is a trait you people lack!
Lt Angus Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.09 21:55:00 - [16] No wonder the army is doing so well Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers
SpawnSupreme	Posted - 2007.04.09 22:03:00 - [17] well i dont plan for army but i do plan for army special opps such as delta force and on a rare occasion green berets.
Romulan Dominiae	Posted - 2007.04.09 22:04:00 - [18] wtb brain
Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:01:00 - [19] I'm going to call the Baker Foxtrot Sierra card here. You just made yourself look much dumber than my meanest estimates. "o I'm hghly awrded n teh army lol" No, you're a 6 year old who can't lie. ---------------- If you're on IE, pretend this is transparent while you get a browser that supports .png.
Catori Fala Legio Immortalis	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:23:00 - [20] "i am one of militaries finest awarded stratagist in real life i dont come up with a plan unless i can assure the outcome is greater than the setback." I almost want to believe you, it would explain so much.
Krulla Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:25:00 - [21] Originally by: SpawnSupreme well i dont plan for army but i do plan for army special opps such as delta force and on a rare occasion green berets. Well, if you only plan for the elite special forces units, I wonder how the guys who plan for the regular army are? Suddenly, a lot of things make more sense. ------------------------- Sigs are for noobs.
Terianna Eri Amarr STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:25:00 - [22] Edited by: Terianna Eri on 09/04/2007 23:24:15 Holy ***, man. I wholeheartedly approve of this idea. Cause I have this useless 8th high slot my drake... 7/7/5 drake? ******* creams pants * Oh, or the armageddon, too. It can't gain an 8th low... so... 7/5/8? [offical sarcasm disclaimer] __________________________________ <-- Behold, the eve-o forums
Guillame Herschel Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:35:00 - [23] Originally by: SpawnSupreme if the idea was thought up by ccp it cant be a bad idea... I thought up that idea too, posted it here 6 months ago, and the idea was soundly criticized and debunked. But I used punctuation so people were nicer to me. -- Guile can always trump hardware --
Ryysa North Face Force Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:41:00 - [24] Originally by: SpawnSupreme im work with intell. i plan where navy seals strike i plan thier escape. i sit with a board of others who plan special opps. it in bread into me to see all aspects because profesional lives depend on the planning. i have a jenalist on my team that spells worse than me who prints up orders. all i need to know how to do is point and think! this is a trait you people lack! I think you are full of ****. Can you please go back to the mental institution you escaped from and stop creating completely random threads? In another thread you are supposed to be a brilliant mathematician, yet you can't even spell on elementary school level. N.F.F. Recruitment
Fluffernator	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:42:00 - [25] lol ryssa! all you do is troll, its amazing. Post something useful, if your just gonna talk smack dont say anything!
Ryysa North Face Force Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:43:00 - [26] Originally by: Fluffernator lol ryssa! all you do is troll, its amazing. Post something useful, if your just gonna talk smack dont say anything! And what exactly did you do just now? Please do me a favor, and check my recent posts mr. noobalt. Oh and, post with your main if you want me to take anything you say seriously nooblet. N.F.F. Recruitment
Fluffernator	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:45:00 - [27] I can start pulling quotes from all sorts of threads you've posted on, pretty much all of them your abusive calling people "idiots" and "nooblets" etc. Im gonna start a collection, its quite humorous.
Ryysa North Face Force Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:47:00 - [28] Originally by: Fluffernator I can start pulling quotes from all sorts of threads you've posted on, pretty much all of them your abusive calling people "idiots" and "nooblets" etc. Im gonna start a collection, its quite humorous. Yay, my personal fan! Would you like an autograph? N.F.F. Recruitment
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:47:00 - [29] Originally by: Fluffernator lol ryssa! all you do is troll, its amazing. Post something useful, if your just gonna talk smack dont say anything! Do you believe that the OP is a strategic mastermind who sends teams of Navy Seals out to liberate the rest of the world from the shackles of not-being-American? Cause i'm struggling. --- Indigo Fade is now selling jumpclones for superb prices, please see Marquis Dean's bio and/or evemail/convo him ingame.
Ryysa North Face Force Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:48:00 - [30] And more importantly, would he post about that on an online game forum? lol. N.F.F. Recruitment
xHalcyonx Amarr EmpiresMod	Posted - 2007.04.10 00:42:00 - [31] Edited by: xHalcyonx on 10/04/2007 00:38:31 Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Fluffernator lol ryssa! all you do is troll, its amazing. Post something useful, if your just gonna talk smack dont say anything! Do you believe that the OP is a strategic mastermind who sends teams of Navy Seals out to liberate the rest of the world from the shackles of not-being-American? Cause i'm struggling. That and the fact that SEALS, Delta Force, and Green Berets all have separate strategists that determine the goal of the mission at hand. The actual planning of the mission, after being briefed on the objectives, is done by the squad and/or squad leader.
SpawnSupreme	Posted - 2007.04.10 00:43:00 - [32] well i get my orders from the big guy and when they have an idea they ask uss to research the location and then perform top secret actions that you nor the media are allwed to know what really goes on. lets just say in a sence there is servey and plan then we send in the bullet catchers to complete mission. sorry if you are special operative but hey i get my orders then pass down new orders with a plan.
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.04.10 00:48:00 - [33] Originally by: SpawnSupreme well i get my orders from the big guy and when they have an idea they ask uss to research the location and then perform top secret actions that you nor the media are allwed to know what really goes on. lets just say in a sence there is servey and plan then we send in the bullet catchers to complete mission. sorry if you are special operative but hey i get my orders then pass down new orders with a plan. rofl. Ok now shut up. --- Indigo Fade is now selling jumpclones for superb prices, please see Marquis Dean's bio and/or evemail/convo him ingame.
SpawnSupreme	Posted - 2007.04.10 01:09:00 - [34] Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 10/04/2007 01:07:24 ok let me enact my fredom of speach! im just a flat out good tactition and a good planer. and i love my job it make my head real big that im conciderd an important man and i get paid well enough to have a house and a computer so strong i can hook up 4 monitors and with my 4 accounts gank with my personal elite assult team.
Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2007.04.10 01:41:00 - [35] Nobody believes you. Shut the hell up. ---------------- If you're on IE, pretend this is transparent while you get a browser that supports .png.
xHalcyonx Amarr EmpiresMod	Posted - 2007.04.10 01:51:00 - [36] Originally by: Dahak2150 Nobody believes you. Shut the hell up. This thread kinda reminds me of good old PSide Flame threads.
Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2007.04.10 02:10:00 - [37] Originally by: xHalcyonx Originally by: Dahak2150 Nobody believes you. Shut the hell up. This thread kinda reminds me of good old PSide Flame threads. I know, awesome isn't it? We totally need Reflamer here. He'd cut the waste down to size. ---------------- If you're on IE, pretend this is transparent while you get a browser that supports .png.
Inuyasha507 Caldari Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2007.04.10 02:17:00 - [38] Originally by: Dahak2150 Originally by: xHalcyonx Originally by: Dahak2150 Nobody believes you. Shut the hell up. This thread kinda reminds me of good old PSide Flame threads. I know, awesome isn't it? We totally need Reflamer here. He'd cut the waste down to size. that would be totally awesome
xHalcyonx Amarr EmpiresMod	Posted - 2007.04.10 02:19:00 - [39] Edited by: xHalcyonx on 10/04/2007 02:15:55 Originally by: Dahak2150 Originally by: xHalcyonx Originally by: Dahak2150 Nobody believes you. Shut the hell up. This thread kinda reminds me of good old PSide Flame threads. I know, awesome isn't it? We totally need Reflamer here. He'd cut the waste down to size. Maybe even JCDenton to lighten the mood, or any of the other GCers. Anyways, back to the task at hand. (to the OP) Your idea sucks. You don't sound credible. Be quiet now please.
SpawnSupreme	Posted - 2007.04.10 03:02:00 - [40] why do you guys wish to be flamers? in my oppinion woman are evil but not worth going homo flam and all!
SpawnSupreme	Posted - 2007.04.10 06:00:00 - [41] so about that topic?
Keitaro Baka Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project	Posted - 2007.04.10 06:48:00 - [42] Originally by: SpawnSupreme Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 10/04/2007 01:07:24 ok let me enact my fredom of speach! im just a flat out good tactition and a good planer. and i love my job it make my head real big that im conciderd an important man and i get paid well enough to have a house and a computer so strong i can hook up 4 monitors and with my 4 accounts gank roids with my personal elite insult team. Did I just miss-quote here or did you call yourself a macro miner... Anyways, the original idea by CCP was to do this at the building stage of a ship, so taking out your white crayon and go nuts on your bpc. The original idea also was that you would need to take out 2 things to create one thing, such that your custom ships would actually be <= original ships in most things. After discussing it during beta with the players (we loved it, but we also loved having pink kestrels with custom drapes and such, so ..) they decided it would really make the whole balance issue something they would not be in control of.. Your idea is short sighted. If you play this game for a few more years you will look back on it and giggle. We honestly do NOT want passive shield tanking blasterthons, apoc layout non amarr ships and ECM ships without high slots.. Ah ic I did kinda missquote you.. must be my warped perception of reality These threads are like bad movies.. sometimes I just can't help myself All the stuff above does not necessarily reflect my corp, my alliance or even me.. Drone guide..
Mikeli Soth Gallente The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.10 06:55:00 - [43] I could have sworn that he claimed to be a math and science major in one of his other threads. Meh, can't be aissed to go check the other threads that he has posted. Wouldn't want my head to go boom again
SpawnSupreme	Posted - 2007.04.10 08:36:00 - [44] well the numbers add up but if the DEV team does not want to do all the difficult work to modify ships with a single mod then its as simple as not going to happen. i dont see how 2 for 1 equats in a math matical esance and i dont think anyone would sac 2 slots for 1. to give you a simple no number math example. your heavy slots on (average) is said to = X / by 2 would be X/2 = this number is not far off the mid and low average ammount. if you continue to let it work 1 for 1 mod then if you sac a low or medium slot to gain a medium or large slot you are left with an amount of power above the ships design so it should come out of cap. if you place a 15% reduction on cap total then you can explan the power level differance.
Kerosene Caldari Fun Inc Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.10 08:38:00 - [45] Originally by: SpawnSupreme Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 10/04/2007 05:35:26 why do you guys wish to be flamers? in my oppinion woman are evil but not worth going homo flam and all!! I really hope Secret Squirrel here doesn't get banned too long. This is comedy gold and already has a cult following with my guys. __ I really don't need BoB propaganda here any more. Let's embrace yiffy.
SpawnSupreme	Posted - 2007.04.10 08:51:00 - [46] on forums i am carefull with my toung but ingame wow hear me roar and become silenced by moderators every day. lol
Gladiator Jonny	Posted - 2007.04.10 09:02:00 - [47] Originally by: SpawnSupreme on forums i am carefull with my toung but ingame wow hear me roar and become silenced by moderators every day. lol so far, its us being silenced by the mods, not you. and still... after 46? posts why do you still try defend your idea of something when 35+ of the people either laughed, flamed or just blew their brains out because your idea is pathetic.
Lars Intarestum	Posted - 2007.04.10 09:10:00 - [48] Edited by: Lars Intarestum on 10/04/2007 09:06:58 Wow. Just wow dood. I've never seen such a horrible lie and I've seen plenty. You claim that Math and Science majors tend to be deficent in language. While, in an essence, that might be true it doesn't keep me (Computer Science Major, Math Minor, Discovery Informatics Minor) from making correctly paragraphed and capitalized posts. You also claim that you're a master tactician for the government. Which amuses me to no end as you've named special forces from different branches of the military. While, I'm no SEAL, the idea that the Navy's special forces and the Army's special forces are being coordinated by the same guy on a tactical level is... Well... Stupid. Anyway, enough bashing. The on-topic part. Simply enough, your proposed change would mean that some measure of the balance of power would leave CCP's hands. This is a Bad Idea (tm) as they're the ones who are ultimately in charge of balance. Players, naturally, tend to attempt to unbalance the game while the developer's jobs is to keep that balance. Eight low-slot Domi's that can still sport a full rack of Nosses? Not kosher. How about something less obvious? Rifter with 6 mids becoming the most broken tackler ever. I don't think you quite understand the power a single slot has. However, I don't think you quite understand how horrible your lies are.

Ivan Kirilenkov Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.04.10 09:20:00 - [49] This has gone way off-topic. Locked. forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website


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