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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2011.12.25 16:58:00 -
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Taking a ship to find a nice target that just sits there while you fire at it ...
Am I describing mining or ganking? 
Ideas and stuff
EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
61
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Posted - 2011.12.25 17:01:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Taking a ship to find a nice target that just sits there while you fire at it ... Am I describing mining or ganking?
BELIEVE me, I don't 'just sit there'. I'm GONE......................
The Reason most don't....BOTS.
Get 'em.
OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM !
God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved.
-á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
Jenshae Chiroptera
293
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Posted - 2011.12.25 17:04:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:...
The reason most don't.... .
... bored.
... AFK 5 min to let dog out.
... haven't mined in a worm hole.
... newbie making ISK and training other skills - "Hello, do you want to my frien... ARG! Why you shoot me?!" 
Ideas and stuff
EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. |
Nullbeard Rager
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2011.12.25 17:04:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:There are those among us who think the biochemical response they get from vandalism and wanton destruction is what is defined as "fun". In reality, they've never had fun so they haven't a clue what those biochemical signals are like. Sad, really. Making it easier to destroy things for "fun" is another underlying factor - laziness. They don't want their "fun" to take any effort or run any risks.
To call all this "infantile" is an insult to babies. To say they behave like animals is an insult to nature. We should call in the old tried and true term for this. It's being a "jerk".
Well said. |
Cipher Jones
191
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Posted - 2011.12.25 17:19:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:They're pussies who don't want a fair fight.
Only a suicidal individual would want a fair fight.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
SmegB
Onyx Brotherhood
STR8NGE BREW
3
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Posted - 2011.12.25 17:20:00 -
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Nullbeard Rager wrote:Vyl Vit wrote:There are those among us who think the biochemical response they get from vandalism and wanton destruction is what is defined as "fun". In reality, they've never had fun so they haven't a clue what those biochemical signals are like. Sad, really. Making it easier to destroy things for "fun" is another underlying factor - laziness. They don't want their "fun" to take any effort or run any risks.
To call all this "infantile" is an insult to babies. To say they behave like animals is an insult to nature. We should call in the old tried and true term for this. It's being a "jerk". Well said.
Man all the Babies of eve are showing themselves today. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1378
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Posted - 2011.12.25 19:36:00 -
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they already took away the insurance payout, people will gank you anyway, get over it you big baby |
SmegB
Onyx Brotherhood
STR8NGE BREW
3
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Posted - 2011.12.25 19:52:00 -
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Andski wrote:they already took away the insurance payout, people will gank you anyway, get over it you big baby
spoken like a true hero. |
Zenith Ginnungagap
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.25 19:56:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Just wondering. Enlighten please........... 
I am pretty sure that it's just those sad lifeless social rejects who actually do such thing. Sad how lonely someones are. |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
62
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Posted - 2011.12.25 20:09:00 -
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Zenith Ginnungagap wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Just wondering. Enlighten please........... I am pretty sure that it's just those sad lifeless social rejects who actually do such thing. Sad how lonely someones are.
Post with your main.
Do you perhaps think that people think suicide ganking should be easier because it is currently swayed massively in favour of the gankee? Why CCP removed insurance I will never know.
All a miner has to do is be at a keyboard to avoid a gank, and they receive insurance if they die.
If both parties are at they keyboard and neither is a massive ****** then the miner should survive every single time. There are hundreds of other preventative measures the miner can take to avoid ever being in this situation as well. |
SmegB
Onyx Brotherhood
STR8NGE BREW
3
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Posted - 2011.12.25 20:25:00 -
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Zenith Ginnungagap wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Just wondering. Enlighten please........... I am pretty sure that it's just those sad lifeless social rejects who actually do such thing. Sad how lonely someones are.
He doesnt post with his main cuz hes affraid what will happen.
you got to love the tracking agents. |
Salus Amatin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.25 20:32:00 -
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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:Zenith Ginnungagap wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Just wondering. Enlighten please........... I am pretty sure that it's just those sad lifeless social rejects who actually do such thing. Sad how lonely someones are. Post with your main. Do you perhaps think that people think suicide ganking should be easier because it is currently swayed massively in favour of the gankee? Why CCP removed insurance I will never know. All a miner has to do is be at a keyboard to avoid a gank, and they receive insurance if they die. If both parties are at they keyboard and neither is a massive ****** then the miner should survive every single time. There are hundreds of other preventative measures the miner can take to avoid ever being in this situation as well.
I honestly can't argue with them taking insurance away from gankers, its a realistic model, if you drive off in your car after commiting a string of murders, and it gets totaled while your running from the cops, the Insurance Company does payout, and in a game that trumpets its value in realism, why would you expect any less? |
Valei Khurelem
House Khurelem
28
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Posted - 2011.12.25 20:35:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:They're pussies who don't want a fair fight. Only a suicidal individual would want a fair fight.
I like taking on three at once myself in games like counter-strike, that makes it more fair for them :D |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
63
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Posted - 2011.12.25 20:37:00 -
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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:
If both parties are at they keyboard and neither is a massive ****** then the miner should survive every single time. There are hundreds of other preventative measures the miner can take to avoid ever being in this situation as well.
Exactly. I mine/mission 50-50 and it's been a year since a Gank for me. They are avoidable 99.9% of the time.
OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM !
God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved.
-á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
63
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Posted - 2011.12.25 20:39:00 -
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Check Battleclinic or whatever and search for Toons with high Hulk and Mack losses.
In fact, this sounds like a fun project for an alt tonight......
Or, what the heck. It's boring watching my security at 5.0. More interesting when it climbs at least.
OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM !
God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved.
-á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
63
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Posted - 2011.12.25 20:58:00 -
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Salus Amatin wrote:I honestly can't argue with them taking insurance away from gankers, its a realistic model, if you drive off in your car after commiting a string of murders, and it gets totaled while your running from the cops, the Insurance Company does payout, and in a game that trumpets its value in realism, why would you expect any less?
Salus Amatin wrote:I honestly can't argue with them taking insurance away from gankers, its a realistic model,
Salus Amatin wrote:its a realistic model,
Salus Amatin wrote:realistic model
Welcome to eve, not it is not.
Do you think a real company would payout insurance to someone who leeroys a battleship through low sec unscouted?
Do you think a real company would payout insurance to someone who fits his dread with a large armor repper?
Do you think a real company would insure a cyno kessie?
Eve does not trumpet its value in realism. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
63
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Posted - 2011.12.25 21:03:00 -
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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:Salus Amatin wrote:I honestly can't argue with them taking insurance away from gankers, its a realistic model, if you drive off in your car after commiting a string of murders, and it gets totaled while your running from the cops, the Insurance Company does payout, and in a game that trumpets its value in realism, why would you expect any less? Salus Amatin wrote:I honestly can't argue with them taking insurance away from gankers, its a realistic model, Salus Amatin wrote:its a realistic model, Salus Amatin wrote:realistic model Welcome to eve, not it is not.Do you think a real company would payout insurance to someone who leeroys a battleship through low sec unscouted? Do you think a real company would payout insurance to someone who fits his dread with a large armor repper? Do you think a real company would insure a cyno kessie? Eve does not trumpet its value in realism.
OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM !
God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved.
-á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1380
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Posted - 2011.12.25 21:14:00 -
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a real company would lawl at you for doing the equivalent of leaving your car unlocked with keys in the ignition in the worst part of town, that is, AFK mining in a system with numerous ganks in the past hour
a real company would also laugh at you for blowing up your own car and trying to claim insurance on it
get out of here with this realism crap, this is a space game where the ships move more like submarines and where landing a ship right next to the sun isn't going to fry you at all, and there is apparently no gravity |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1380
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Posted - 2011.12.25 21:16:00 -
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why are miners such entitled babies????? |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
63
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Posted - 2011.12.25 21:18:00 -
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Yes I'm sure real insurance companies payout about 4X the money they receive from premiums. (number from an economic report about isk sinks / facets) |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
80
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Posted - 2011.12.25 22:00:00 -
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At least you have insurance from a real life perspective on insurance. usually only the rich have it, so only the rich gankers and miners could afford and no one else. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
162
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Posted - 2011.12.25 22:03:00 -
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Andski wrote:why are miners such entitled babies?????
because they cant fight back and are continuously abused ?? |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1092
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Posted - 2011.12.26 02:05:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Andski wrote:why are miners such entitled babies????? because they cant fight back and are continuously abused ??
Sure they can and no they aren't.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
63
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Posted - 2011.12.26 15:52:00 -
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Andski wrote:why are miners such entitled babies?????
Why are Gankers such entitled babies ????
OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM !
God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved.
-á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
63
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Posted - 2011.12.26 15:54:00 -
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rodyas wrote:At least you have insurance from a real life perspective on insurance. usually only the rich have it, so only the rich gankers and miners could afford and no one else.
Erm, I'm not rich and I have insurance.................where on Earth do you live where it is 'for the rich'?
Just a curious statement that needs some clarification if you are going to make such pronouncements on the Forum.......
OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM !
God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved.
-á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
259
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Posted - 2011.12.26 16:35:00 -
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Nerf Ganking  |
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2011.12.26 16:45:00 -
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SmegB wrote:
Your right we should take all the mean stuff in eve and float it down the river of tears that has been created by people that cry about dieing. Hear is one fact that may upset you carebears. EVE would not be still in business if they did not allow people to shoot each other.
I really don't think thats true. I would happily pay double for a PVE version of Eve. Balancing a PVE server would be cake. Add more NPC's and keep cranking up their difficulty until you got a stable economy. Hell you could even have random NPC fleets attack POS's and any other player owned or operated structure. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
64
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Posted - 2011.12.26 17:05:00 -
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Pillowtalk wrote:SmegB wrote:
Your right we should take all the mean stuff in eve and float it down the river of tears that has been created by people that cry about dieing.
I really don't think thats true. I would happily pay double for a PVE version of Eve. Balancing a PVE server would be cake. Add more NPC's and keep cranking up their difficulty until you got a stable economy. Hell you could even have random NPC fleets attack POS's and any other player owned or operated structure.
Notice the language they use like "river of tears'. My God, I love literature and wordplay, but these quasi-religious histrionics really show the truly insane picture here.
Anyway, I'm not sure what a solution to all of it is, but a non-PVP region or 2 might be the solution.
Sometimes, people just want to actually 'relax after work casually' in a game and that should be a part of a sandbox.
It's not crying about dying (learn how to spell SmegB), it's being 'involuntarily engaged'.
I believe that is called R A P E.
OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM !
God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved.
-á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
March rabbit
Ganse
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
49
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Posted - 2011.12.26 17:09:00 -
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SmegB wrote:
Your right we should take all the mean stuff in eve and float it down the river of tears that has been created by people that cry about dieing. Hear is one fact that may upset you carebears. EVE would not be still in business if they did not allow people to shoot each other.
bad thing is: suicide ganker isn't much more than "a bit more danger rat". NPC rats can do suicide gank easily. So there is no real difference for gankee.
I lost some hulks to occasional "too heavy" rat spawns. And i lost ships to gankers. Didn't feel the difference.
So for carebear side players-gankers aren't needed at all. Their role can be taken by rats should CCP make rats more smart and danger. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
64
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Posted - 2011.12.26 17:14:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:SmegB wrote:
Your right we should take all the mean stuff in eve and float it down the river of tears that has been created by people that cry about dieing. Hear is one fact that may upset you carebears. EVE would not be still in business if they did not allow people to shoot each other.
bad thing is: suicide ganker isn't much more than "a bit more danger rat". NPC rats can do suicide gank easily. So there is no real difference for gankee. I lost some hulks to occasional "too heavy" rat spawns. And i lost ships to gankers. Didn't feel the difference. So for carebear side players-gankers aren't needed at all. Their role can be taken by rats should CCP make rats more smart and danger.
I HOPE to GOD you lost those in Null.......................
lol
OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM !
God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved.
-á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
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