well industrial ships namely mining vessels doesnt make any sense from "any" sci-fi perspective..

Mining vessels ussually were beasts massive armors/ huge ships.. something like "super-capitals" in game..
Many of industrial ships were repurpossed to vicious battle-ship like vessels.

The issue is, the unbalance is TOO severe.

Well, explosions are more fun than lasers, but.............

Maybe change belt rat behavior with more difficult AI....more and stronger 'hassle' from rats and with more firepower.

An AFK Mack should not be able to 'ignore' Rats........that's for STARTERS to do SOMEthing about the botting issue aspect at least.....

What i think that mining needs serious overhaul, just to make it profitable and actually meaningful..

I cant stop laughing.

Stated yes, but is it true ? Where exactly is this a pronouncement on the true function and purpose of EVE the Game by CCP ??

I missed THAT memo.

IT"S A SANDBOX.

There are ways of playing and things to do that would require absolute silence and NO interaction with other players at all for YEARS. Avoiding the Market and Contracts would be idiotic, so I guess one would have to interact there, but that is not exactly personal.

Also, I don't think the person you responded to was implying a completely PvP free EVE. I certainly would not want that. I believe the implication is PvP-Free Areas of SOME nature. That's all.

Ironically, Chribba MAY be the only one playing EVE properly from the aspect of determining one's own gameplay and following through with unwavering longevity !

It is a MULTIPLAYER Sandbox. There is nothing stopping you from mining quietly in peace. At the same time, there is nothing stopping the next guy from deciding he gets his shits and giggles from blowing you up while you try to do that.

If you want a PvP free server for Eve, there is one. It's called SiSi. You might like it there.

The AI in general needs a monumentous overhall. Though this is a great point. It would be great to see a pirate battlegroup pop in every now and then, especially in the lower ends of High Sec space. With scram/webbing cruisers and other diabolical tools to make mining at least remotely interesting.

It's market competition. Miners sell themselves for almost nothing, they get almost nothing. Also, like in RL, those making the heavy jobs are often socially scoffed at and badly paid.

How so? We've already established that if somebody is not AFK and paying attention to the game while they play it is impossible to gank them in high sec.

Where The F--- was THAT 'agreed' to ???????????

It is VERY possible to do just that with Sensor Booster w/Scripts and Scrammer. EASY EASY EASY.


I'VE DONE it myself.

Then the exhumer wasn't paying attention. If a miner is actually playing the game and staying aligned to a warp out there is no way for them to be ganked. During our ice interdiction there were a couple of people who did this and we never killed them.

True, but for 3mil an hour constantly clicking/alligning to other bm and keeping at range of rock you mine, while clicking the d-scan button every 1.5s is tedious.

So don't do it.

You want to avoid ganks, that's how you do it. If you want to lazily mine away, you risk being ganked. It takes effort to avoid certain risks.

True, but for 3mil an hour constantly clicking/alligning to other bm and keeping at range of rock you mine, while clicking the d-scan button every 1.5s is tedious.

BUMP.

this ain't over yet...........................

BUMP.

This ain't over yet...............

As in the other thread,



Spamming, bumping and pyramid quoting are prohibited.


(Oh, and the irony of replying to the above post with a post like this is not lost on me.)

You are just OBSESSED with pointing out little sh--ts. What a SMALL mind................................

I love little shirts. I get to use them to dress up my precious little Doggie, ooh isn't he just adorable?


EDIT: As for topical posting, I figure when the OP goes off the rails, I get to drive right off with him.

Someone has had too much to drink or something.................................

Looks like it is on the fast track to the lock that he wants.

becaise CCP encourages it , CCP wants you to go and gank and grief as much as you can and if you can hurt them in their RL wallets even better
Don't worry about mining and industyry you got macro' s for that aswell CCP even encourages hem aswell , why you think plex prices are so high you can even buy 2 hulks for one plex now
It is the first step in their masterplan to exterminate all high sec industry , this whole expansion is
their end solution is to see that 80% of their players will finally give up so they can only concentrate on PVP content only

But don't worry if you lose your precious very expensive and very rare BC you will still get a free ibis

True, but for 3mil an hour constantly clicking/alligning to other bm and keeping at range of rock you mine, while clicking the d-scan button every 1.5s is tedious.

As in the other thread,



Spamming, bumping and pyramid quoting are prohibited.


(Oh, and the irony of replying to the above post with a post like this is not lost on me.)

How so? We've already established that if somebody is not AFK and paying attention to the game while they play it is impossible to gank them in high sec. The arguments for making ganking harder are from people who don't want to have to pay attention or want to be able to play while tabbed out doing something else--something only miners feel they are entitled to.

Can you explain how it is impossible to be ganked in hisec if you are paying attention? Also what are the precautions that you mention, you are not being very specific.