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Uhmari
Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp.
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:23:00 -
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I was like you, Long ago. I sought to fight bob, because they were a challange, and they still are.
Why do you insist on fighting them? why do you try to kill those who are stronger then you? You claim they are tyrant, They are no such thing, They are just pvpers, doing what they like, Pvp. Stop making them out to be a evil force, they are just another alliance, agressive, and well organized.
your so fixed on beating bob, and yet keep losing, Ever stop to think about why that is so? you keep using the same approach, You unite many alliances to fight, But you are to arrogant and to stuborn to elect a single leader, EVEN bob has stated that if you did such, you could defeat them. Try something new, Or get off the bandwagon, Because your about to get wtf pwned.
I am loyal to the alliances i serve, If they are friendly or hostile to XYZ i dont care, But when i am corpless, and when i am not in an alliance, I choose my personal relationships; personally i think you are all to stupid to beat bob, and personally i have seen evidence that bob is still exploiting devie powers, but that matter little because even with out them they would still beat you.
Change your approach, your doom approaches.
-uhmari Empires are built on conquest and war, not peace and trade. |

Drake Mezcal
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:25:00 -
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Gee, Axe has went so downhill since they got kicked out of Impass
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:26:00 -
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Dont...just dont..please?
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Zzazzt
Gallente Millennium
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Mezcal Gee, Axe has went so downhill since they got kicked out of Impass
OMG i was so nearly first!
*shakes fist*
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:27:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/04/2007 10:23:33 Oh good, so now we have a "fighting BoB is bad" thread to combine with the previous "insulting the Coalition is bad" thread. Its all coming full circle now! 
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:27:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Vision on 10/04/2007 10:26:36
Mr. Uhmari,
would you like to have one power control all, or many independent entities?
I think bright people in BoB will secretly support the coalition, if they are realy PvPers like you say, it is for their own good.
Regards, VV
EVE War I - Quick Overview (Feb/March)
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Zzazzt
Gallente Millennium
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:28:00 -
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Hahaha, in before Shikari, however - w00t!  ____________________________________________
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MINSuicide
MINSuicide Corp inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:29:00 -
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Edited by: MINSuicide on 10/04/2007 10:30:35
Uhh...wtf did you just try to say?
Better ask Steel Rat to draw your post out with crayons
Quote: personally i think you are all to stupid to beat bob
Nothing nice to come out of this.
Quote: personally i have seen evidence that bob is still exploiting devie powers
Yeah, and I am not an alt.
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Minigin
Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:34:00 -
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i'm so confused... bob is still cheating but we should all just give in because they would win anyway? Your signature <----- My awsome Sig |

Syntosk
Amarr Ticon Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:37:00 -
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I expect nothing more from a vassal... -- "Purge the unclean..."
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Uhmari
Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp.
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:38:00 -
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Mr. Uhmari,
would you like to have one power control all, or many independent entities? Regards, VV for the time being, bob will conquer 0.0, Unless they change their ways and get organized. this is the only hope for the coalition, namely, to elect a single, Praetor if you will. Interestingly i use the word praetor, Because it is the coalition that refers to themselves as the "protectors of the weak, and of the people/players of eve" the word praetor derives from an ancient roman elite gard known as the praetorians, And their leader, Caesar, The praetor or "protector of the people".
TO answer your q, I think one alliance should rule no more then 10-15 constellations. i feel ccp should some now nerf it so that an alliance cannot control more then that, unless XYZ effects / requirements are met to expand that. ( namely the defeat of another alliance )
i feel that there is alot of space in eve, but not anuff for those new alliances, that want to get their "place in space" and i feel there is not anuff "balance" in all of 0.0 to be fair and say "all area's have xyz ores and xyz in ratting income" some regions are overly loaded in ores, and or ratting, while others are worthless ( syndicate ect ) for isk, which powers and fuels an alliance.
In short, I vote for many small alliances, but no alliance has the will to resolve to that, perhapse an law from the people should be made to not allow an alliance more then xyz systems, region ect, As a "player sanction".
Excuse the gammer, kind lf sleepy and upset, molle just yelled at me and i was being nice =/ Empires are built on conquest and war, not peace and trade. |

Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:39:00 -
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Because fighting alongside BoB is no challenge and consequently boring.
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Nekuna
Amarr Ignis Sanctus
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:43:00 -
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Bob has declared war against the coalation, that all.
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NeverL
Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:43:00 -
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damn you bob, quit cheating allready ----------------- My dream is to become the best forum warrior there is. Even better then Molle Sir. |

Gutsani
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:55:00 -
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TRADE YOUR GUNS FOR MINING LASERS, ONE TIME ACTION, IN THE "BOB HQ" TODAY (NOL). ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy! |

nico wurz250
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:55:00 -
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When BoB are so strong, why they run if they see a D2 frig?
Without terror and mythologie they are nothing. Without 100s of capitals they loose. Without internal knowledge they loose.
The Coalition has the balls to fight against BoB, against that what is behind the name BoB. Because - WE LOVE EvE.
And, are winning, donŠt you? - Support your local D2 member! |

Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: nico wurz250 When BoB are so strong, why they run if they see a D2 frig?
Coz the suckiness might be contagious?
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Uhmari
I am loyal to the alliances i serve, If they are friendly or hostile to XYZ i dont care, But when i am corpless, and when i am not in an alliance, I choose my personal relationships; personally i think you are all to stupid to beat bob, and personally i have seen evidence that bob is still exploiting devie powers, but that matter little because even with out them they would still beat you.
Change your approach, your doom approaches.
-uhmari
Know what? We are fighting alongside BoB and I didn't see a single sign of exploiting dev powers whatsoever. I do hate cheating more than everything in a game and the moment I'd come along a proof for a cheat for one side or the other, I'd turn my back and bugger off fighting for them. This, sir, is just utter bull**** what you wrote about BoB using dev powers to take advantage. Final Words: Proof or STFU!
Regards
c0rn1 x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
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c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:11:00 -
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Edited by: c0rn1 on 10/04/2007 11:08:54
Originally by: nico wurz250 When BoB are so strong, why they run if they see a D2 frig?
Without terror and mythologie they are nothing. Without 100s of capitals they loose. Without internal knowledge they loose.
The Coalition has the balls to fight against BoB, against that what is behind the name BoB. Because - WE LOVE EvE.
And, are winning, donŠt you?
know what the difference is between BoB and you?
Even with terror and mythologie you are nothing. Even with 100s of capitals you lose. Even with internal knowledge you lose.
You don't fight for Eve, you fight for yourselves. That's all what I got from d2 so far on these forums here or on the german forums. You're trying to make people think you are on a holy crusade against the Evil. I just see every player here wants to have fun. I have my fun, you have fun with your crusade.
Regards
c0rn1 x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
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Lunas Feelgood
Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: c0rn1
Originally by: nico wurz250 When BoB are so strong, why they run if they see a D2 frig?
Without terror and mythologie they are nothing. Without 100s of capitals they loose. Without internal knowledge they loose.
The Coalition has the balls to fight against BoB, against that what is behind the name BoB. Because - WE LOVE EvE.
And, are winning, donŠt you?
know what the difference is between BoB and you?
Even with terror and mythologie you are nothing. Even with 100s of capitals you lose. Even with internal knowledge you lose.
You don't fight for Eve, you fight for yourselves. That's all what I got from d2 so far on these forums here or on the german forums.
You are so cool. Can I join you corp? Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why -Sahwoolo |
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NeverL
Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:12:00 -
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one more note
when going gets tuff - iddqd and idkfa ----------------- My dream is to become the best forum warrior there is. Even better then Molle Sir. |

Fedaykinn
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:13:00 -
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They fight BOB beacuse they are indeed a challenge. No one had the will to fight BoB on there own grounds until now, proving they arent untouchable which so many people claimed they were before the war.
Plus its fun? And everyone who goes against them is putting themselves in the Eve history books.
Yes I Typo, Does It Look Like I Care? |

MrMajIc
VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: c0rn1
Originally by: Uhmari
I am loyal to the alliances i serve, If they are friendly or hostile to XYZ i dont care, But when i am corpless, and when i am not in an alliance, I choose my personal relationships; personally i think you are all to stupid to beat bob, and personally i have seen evidence that bob is still exploiting devie powers, but that matter little because even with out them they would still beat you.
Change your approach, your doom approaches.
-uhmari
Know what? We are fighting alongside BoB and I didn't see a single sign of exploiting dev powers whatsoever. I do hate cheating more than everything in a game and the moment I'd come along a proof for a cheat for one side or the other, I'd turn my back and bugger off fighting for them. This, sir, is just utter bull**** what you wrote about BoB using dev powers to take advantage. Final Words: Proof or STFU!
Regards
c0rn1
bob kicked my puppie...with a dev-shoe I am serious I am suing ccp now he is injured and byond repair.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 10/04/2007 11:17:41 Christ, why are all the thread's in the last week vomit inducing?
Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
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Kraeze
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:29:00 -
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Remember, BoB had some CCP luck. Didn't get punished....
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Pesadel0
Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: c0rn1
Originally by: Uhmari
I am loyal to the alliances i serve, If they are friendly or hostile to XYZ i dont care, But when i am corpless, and when i am not in an alliance, I choose my personal relationships; personally i think you are all to stupid to beat bob, and personally i have seen evidence that bob is still exploiting devie powers, but that matter little because even with out them they would still beat you.
Change your approach, your doom approaches.
-uhmari
Know what? We are fighting alongside BoB and I didn't see a single sign of exploiting dev powers whatsoever. I do hate cheating more than everything in a game and the moment I'd come along a proof for a cheat for one side or the other, I'd turn my back and bugger off fighting for them. This, sir, is just utter bull**** what you wrote about BoB using dev powers to take advantage. Final Words: Proof or STFU!
Regards
c0rn1
Well..erm you are fighting along side BoB because off the challenge? Or because you don't have nothing to fight for? Or your enemies are on the other side?
About they using DEVS power ,man donŠt even go there.... |

Glitch 10240
Caldari Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:35:00 -
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I am so sick of this arguement, "why do you fight bob". The reality is bob is the biggest(territory wise) and oldest alliance in the game, and defeating them is like you said a challenge and even fighting them just because you can. I'll give it to them they are very very good pilots, and winning them in an engagement is somthing to be proud of. While im saying this, how do you think bob would feel if every alliance just said, we are never going to engage you in a fight. I could almost garantee they would loose at least half there members would leave. So please stop this stupid arguement and if you hate ppl fighting bob, go to the other side of eve, become an empire pirate, and never read the forums again, because until someone beats bob you are going to see it alot m8
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killerco
Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Fedaykinn No one had the will to fight BoB on there own grounds until now,
i'll have too correct you on that,ASCN tried it first 
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killerco
Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Fedaykinn No one had the will to fight BoB on there own grounds until now,
i'll have too correct you on that,ASCN tried it first 
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Fedaykinn
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Fedaykinn on 10/04/2007 11:45:00
Originally by: killerco
Originally by: Fedaykinn No one had the will to fight BoB on there own grounds until now,
i'll have too correct you on that,ASCN tried it first 
I wasnt around much during the ASCN/BoB war was kinda busy but i thought ASCN only fought a defensive battle against BoB never an offensive one, as it was BoB who betrayed them after they were allies togeather for so long.
Yes I Typo, Does It Look Like I Care? |
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Fedaykinn
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Fedaykinn on 10/04/2007 11:45:00
Originally by: killerco
Originally by: Fedaykinn No one had the will to fight BoB on there own grounds until now,
i'll have too correct you on that,ASCN tried it first 
I wasnt around much during the ASCN/BoB war was kinda busy but i thought ASCN only fought a defensive battle against BoB never an offensive one, as it was BoB who betrayed them after they were allies togeather for so long.
Yes I Typo, Does It Look Like I Care? |

Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Fedaykinn Edited by: Fedaykinn on 10/04/2007 11:45:00
Originally by: killerco
Originally by: Fedaykinn No one had the will to fight BoB on there own grounds until now,
i'll have too correct you on that,ASCN tried it first 
I wasnt around much during the ASCN/BoB war was kinda busy but i thought ASCN only fought a defensive battle against BoB never an offensive one, as it was BoB who betrayed them after they were allies togeather for so long.
ASCN attacked once, but forgot the fuel and the guns for all their POS. Needless to say, it wasn't a very succesful attack.
The Northern Coalition wont forget all the gear. They just can't come up with a decent plan to save their lives. They also wont listen to anyone who's not in their little circle of longtime friends, regardless of whether they know what they're talking about or not.
Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Fedaykinn Edited by: Fedaykinn on 10/04/2007 11:45:00
Originally by: killerco
Originally by: Fedaykinn No one had the will to fight BoB on there own grounds until now,
i'll have too correct you on that,ASCN tried it first 
I wasnt around much during the ASCN/BoB war was kinda busy but i thought ASCN only fought a defensive battle against BoB never an offensive one, as it was BoB who betrayed them after they were allies togeather for so long.
ASCN attacked once, but forgot the fuel and the guns for all their POS. Needless to say, it wasn't a very succesful attack.
The Northern Coalition wont forget all the gear. They just can't come up with a decent plan to save their lives. They also wont listen to anyone who's not in their little circle of longtime friends, regardless of whether they know what they're talking about or not.
Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
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3ungle
Antipodean inc. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:59:00 -
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Quote: I was like you, Long ago. I sought to fight bob, because they were a challange, and they still are.
So you Join them?
I am usure at the point of this thread, still scratching my head over it. You are saying that BOB are a PVP corp but we are to givin to them and allow them to take over the entire of 0.0 in EVE? What would that accomplish, peace in 0.0 and allow the only fighting in eve to be in empire with the Privateer Alliance?
I dont see how that would fix anything, you said it yourself, BOB love a good bit of Biff, and that is exactly what the coallition is giving them. No one that I know is saying that BOB is the "Bad Guy" just because one or two bad eggs made some bad decisions. There are two sides to every story and almost every alliance in Eve has a list of + and list of -. Alot of people/corporations/alliances hold a great deal of respect for the other, due to fighting styles, and common curtosy on the playing feilds. In my point of view BOB are - , that doenst mean I will label them all cheaters and evil tyrants. If BOB had a problem with this they would address it themslevs. They wouldn't need and AXE representative, if you are that, to talk for them. I would be supprised if you dont get a nice little slap from either your Alliance or Corporate CEO, or the BOB leadership themselves.
Quote: personally i think you are all to stupid to beat bob
Who are you to question anyones intelligence. You pretty much dug yourself a nice cushy grave by posting this dribble.
Further more, You are trying to give the coalltion pointers on how to defeat BOB? Seemed to work well for AXE? BOB are badass, no one is undermining them at all. But I am pretty sure they are loving all the attention, it allows them to flex their offensives arms, and you have felt them before.
I personally think that 0.0 is all about conflict, if the EVE Developers wanted to expand the game, they could. But the facts still state that the 0.0 we have now is still greatly unpopulated. Loosing capitals are beging to be nothing as everyman and their dog seem to have a dozen or so in their hangers. As long as the players involved are having fun and enjoying what they are paying the EVE Development Team to do. Cudos to them for making an absolutly fabulous game, with almost unlimted potential. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4677/3unglesig2hz4.png
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3ungle
Antipodean inc. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:59:00 -
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Quote: I was like you, Long ago. I sought to fight bob, because they were a challange, and they still are.
So you Join them?
I am usure at the point of this thread, still scratching my head over it. You are saying that BOB are a PVP corp but we are to givin to them and allow them to take over the entire of 0.0 in EVE? What would that accomplish, peace in 0.0 and allow the only fighting in eve to be in empire with the Privateer Alliance?
I dont see how that would fix anything, you said it yourself, BOB love a good bit of Biff, and that is exactly what the coallition is giving them. No one that I know is saying that BOB is the "Bad Guy" just because one or two bad eggs made some bad decisions. There are two sides to every story and almost every alliance in Eve has a list of + and list of -. Alot of people/corporations/alliances hold a great deal of respect for the other, due to fighting styles, and common curtosy on the playing feilds. In my point of view BOB are - , that doenst mean I will label them all cheaters and evil tyrants. If BOB had a problem with this they would address it themslevs. They wouldn't need and AXE representative, if you are that, to talk for them. I would be supprised if you dont get a nice little slap from either your Alliance or Corporate CEO, or the BOB leadership themselves.
Quote: personally i think you are all to stupid to beat bob
Who are you to question anyones intelligence. You pretty much dug yourself a nice cushy grave by posting this dribble.
Further more, You are trying to give the coalltion pointers on how to defeat BOB? Seemed to work well for AXE? BOB are badass, no one is undermining them at all. But I am pretty sure they are loving all the attention, it allows them to flex their offensives arms, and you have felt them before.
I personally think that 0.0 is all about conflict, if the EVE Developers wanted to expand the game, they could. But the facts still state that the 0.0 we have now is still greatly unpopulated. Loosing capitals are beging to be nothing as everyman and their dog seem to have a dozen or so in their hangers. As long as the players involved are having fun and enjoying what they are paying the EVE Development Team to do. Cudos to them for making an absolutly fabulous game, with almost unlimted potential. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4677/3unglesig2hz4.png
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nico wurz250
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:00:00 -
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Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 12:03:31 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 12:02:33 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 12:00:15 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 11:59:28 >>Xelas, you fail to rail Xelas, without the meatshields you could focus on whats >>relevant and important in this war, fighting BoB.
The coalition is the north and the south, BoB is fighting together in south OR north.
The coalition is fighting BoB and OMG meatshields? what for a name.

What next? makeing movies on the testserver and let the territorial map base on it?
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Selk Cantor
Minmatar Dark Nebula Krypteins Dark Nebula Gallactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:00:00 -
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Quote: When BoB are so strong, why they run if they see a D2 frig?
Now that really doesn't sound like an accurate statement. Giving you the benfit of the doubt, I'd have to assume anyone runs from 1 D2 frigate, because of the +100 rule. If you see 1 D2 outside of a station or pos, that usually means there's 100 with them.
That being said, whether BoB wins or the Coalition wins, things won't change much. Neither side has the man power to keep all of their current systems + their enemies systems locked down. On that same note, I gag everytime I read about the guts and ferocity of D2. They have yet to distinguish themselves in achievements from any other non-BoB massive alliance. I would venture to say that any major success the Coalition has achieved outside of the south has been through the work of the non-Dekklein/Northwest coalition alliances.
While RA/Goonfleet has been credited with the most success in this war, by their conquests in the south, I think their victory was achieved long before that, when they caused the Southern Coaliton to break up, leaving LV without allies for neighbors.
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nico wurz250
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:00:00 -
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Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 12:03:31 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 12:02:33 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 12:00:15 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 11:59:28 >>Xelas, you fail to rail Xelas, without the meatshields you could focus on whats >>relevant and important in this war, fighting BoB.
The coalition is the north and the south, BoB is fighting together in south OR north.
The coalition is fighting BoB and OMG meatshields? what for a name.

What next? makeing movies on the testserver and let the territorial map base on it?
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Selk Cantor
Minmatar Dark Nebula Krypteins Dark Nebula Gallactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:00:00 -
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Quote: When BoB are so strong, why they run if they see a D2 frig?
Now that really doesn't sound like an accurate statement. Giving you the benfit of the doubt, I'd have to assume anyone runs from 1 D2 frigate, because of the +100 rule. If you see 1 D2 outside of a station or pos, that usually means there's 100 with them.
That being said, whether BoB wins or the Coalition wins, things won't change much. Neither side has the man power to keep all of their current systems + their enemies systems locked down. On that same note, I gag everytime I read about the guts and ferocity of D2. They have yet to distinguish themselves in achievements from any other non-BoB massive alliance. I would venture to say that any major success the Coalition has achieved outside of the south has been through the work of the non-Dekklein/Northwest coalition alliances.
While RA/Goonfleet has been credited with the most success in this war, by their conquests in the south, I think their victory was achieved long before that, when they caused the Southern Coaliton to break up, leaving LV without allies for neighbors.
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King Fury
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: c0rn1
Originally by: Uhmari
I am loyal to the alliances i serve, If they are friendly or hostile to XYZ i dont care, But when i am corpless, and when i am not in an alliance, I choose my personal relationships; personally i think you are all to stupid to beat bob, and personally i have seen evidence that bob is still exploiting devie powers, but that matter little because even with out them they would still beat you.
Change your approach, your doom approaches.
-uhmari
Know what? We are fighting alongside BoB and I didn't see a single sign of exploiting dev powers whatsoever. I do hate cheating more than everything in a game and the moment I'd come along a proof for a cheat for one side or the other, I'd turn my back and bugger off fighting for them. This, sir, is just utter bull**** what you wrote about BoB using dev powers to take advantage. Final Words: Proof or STFU!
Regards
c0rn1
What proof do you want? Heres some:
T20 Nebulai Vegeta-Lemonde GM - cant remember but was in evol since beta.
You cant see the wood for the trees mate 
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SSgt Sniper
Gallente Dreamscape Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 10/04/2007 11:17:41 Christ, why are all the thread's in the last week vomit inducing?
In the last week??? -------
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain These days the biggest/most active threat in Fountain is the Sparta Alliance.
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King Fury
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:03:00 -
[42]
Originally by: c0rn1
Originally by: Uhmari
I am loyal to the alliances i serve, If they are friendly or hostile to XYZ i dont care, But when i am corpless, and when i am not in an alliance, I choose my personal relationships; personally i think you are all to stupid to beat bob, and personally i have seen evidence that bob is still exploiting devie powers, but that matter little because even with out them they would still beat you.
Change your approach, your doom approaches.
-uhmari
Know what? We are fighting alongside BoB and I didn't see a single sign of exploiting dev powers whatsoever. I do hate cheating more than everything in a game and the moment I'd come along a proof for a cheat for one side or the other, I'd turn my back and bugger off fighting for them. This, sir, is just utter bull**** what you wrote about BoB using dev powers to take advantage. Final Words: Proof or STFU!
Regards
c0rn1
What proof do you want? Heres some:
T20 Nebulai Vegeta-Lemonde GM - cant remember but was in evol since beta.
You cant see the wood for the trees mate 
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SSgt Sniper
Gallente Dreamscape Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:03:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 10/04/2007 11:17:41 Christ, why are all the thread's in the last week vomit inducing?
In the last week??? -------
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain These days the biggest/most active threat in Fountain is the Sparta Alliance.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:04:00 -
[44]
Originally by: SSgt Sniper
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 10/04/2007 11:17:41 Christ, why are all the thread's in the last week vomit inducing?
In the last week???
It's gotten particulaly bad, i've noticed.
Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:04:00 -
[45]
Originally by: SSgt Sniper
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 10/04/2007 11:17:41 Christ, why are all the thread's in the last week vomit inducing?
In the last week???
It's gotten particulaly bad, i've noticed.
Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
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Ceratin
ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:08:00 -
[46]
Who is dirty deeds corp? where is your space again?
KthxBye :P ------------
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Ceratin
ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:08:00 -
[47]
Who is dirty deeds corp? where is your space again?
KthxBye :P ------------
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Steel Rat
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:11:00 -
[48]
Originally by: MINSuicide
Uhh...wtf did you just try to say?
Better ask Steel Rat to draw your post out with crayons
As per your request, a Crayon drawing. Now mind you, its probably not what you or Uhmari expect but I think everyone will get the picture.
Altho there is no rule you can't post on E-O, making yourself look like a pinhead and bringing down the IQ of Axe 50 points does annoy me. So without further ado:
Crayon Drawing
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Steel Rat
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:11:00 -
[49]
Originally by: MINSuicide
Uhh...wtf did you just try to say?
Better ask Steel Rat to draw your post out with crayons
As per your request, a Crayon drawing. Now mind you, its probably not what you or Uhmari expect but I think everyone will get the picture.
Altho there is no rule you can't post on E-O, making yourself look like a pinhead and bringing down the IQ of Axe 50 points does annoy me. So without further ado:
Crayon Drawing
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Drake Mezcal
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:16:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Steel Rat
Originally by: MINSuicide
Uhh...wtf did you just try to say?
Better ask Steel Rat to draw your post out with crayons
As per your request, a Crayon drawing. Now mind you, its probably not what you or Uhmari expect but I think everyone will get the picture.
Altho there is no rule you can't post on E-O, making yourself look like a pinhead and bringing down the IQ of Axe 50 points does annoy me. So without further ado:
Crayon Drawing
Actually made me lol 
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Drake Mezcal
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:16:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Steel Rat
Originally by: MINSuicide
Uhh...wtf did you just try to say?
Better ask Steel Rat to draw your post out with crayons
As per your request, a Crayon drawing. Now mind you, its probably not what you or Uhmari expect but I think everyone will get the picture.
Altho there is no rule you can't post on E-O, making yourself look like a pinhead and bringing down the IQ of Axe 50 points does annoy me. So without further ado:
Crayon Drawing
Actually made me lol 
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Dahin
Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:17:00 -
[52]
You just made him add the "dot of leet".
Sweet jesus, where do you find these guys? I mean no shame? 0 self respect? Please be my daddy?

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mamolian
Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:17:00 -
[53]
When a loud mouth makes a complete idiot of himself, and brings down the reputation of his/her corp, the door should be their reward.. Now if only this was the rule instead of the exception.. CAOD wouldnt be such a ****hole.
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Dahin
Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:17:00 -
[54]
You just made him add the "dot of leet".
Sweet jesus, where do you find these guys? I mean no shame? 0 self respect? Please be my daddy?

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mamolian
Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:17:00 -
[55]
When a loud mouth makes a complete idiot of himself, and brings down the reputation of his/her corp, the door should be their reward.. Now if only this was the rule instead of the exception.. CAOD wouldnt be such a ****hole.
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Lakhthaar
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:29:00 -
[56]
I remember when Uhmari was in ASCN. It wasn't long after he joined and he was being a huge distraction on comms and trying to give orders and claiming he had CYVOK's blessing when infact he did not. He caused a huge scene as we were focused on some BoB's frieghter movements. A director ordered people to block him and not long after that permission was given to pod him. Danari gave the order I believe. If I remember correctly his pod was popped in VNGJ.
Uhmari, it wasn't that long ago you were doing all you could in ASCN&AXE channel to defeat BoB. Now, your a cheerleader and apologist. Not a very good one at that.
Haha, just noticed your not in Dirty Deeds anymore. Awe, you get kicked out of another corp?
You'll never see me in an alliance with you in it. And, if I'm lucky I will get to blow up your ship and harvest your corpse. |

Lakhthaar
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:29:00 -
[57]
I remember when Uhmari was in ASCN. It wasn't long after he joined and he was being a huge distraction on comms and trying to give orders and claiming he had CYVOK's blessing when infact he did not. He caused a huge scene as we were focused on some BoB's frieghter movements. A director ordered people to block him and not long after that permission was given to pod him. Danari gave the order I believe. If I remember correctly his pod was popped in VNGJ.
Uhmari, it wasn't that long ago you were doing all you could in ASCN&AXE channel to defeat BoB. Now, your a cheerleader and apologist. Not a very good one at that.
Haha, just noticed your not in Dirty Deeds anymore. Awe, you get kicked out of another corp?
You'll never see me in an alliance with you in it. And, if I'm lucky I will get to blow up your ship and harvest your corpse. |

Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:32:00 -
[58]
BOB punches your face in.
BOB tells you that you fought well.
You run after BOB like a demented Jack Russell with your tongue hanging out, trying to sniff their privates.
Head shaking respect to BOB.
A bowl full of my sick to the op. Here's a motto for you:
"If at first you don't succeed, give up and become a puppy".
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:32:00 -
[59]
BOB punches your face in.
BOB tells you that you fought well.
You run after BOB like a demented Jack Russell with your tongue hanging out, trying to sniff their privates.
Head shaking respect to BOB.
A bowl full of my sick to the op. Here's a motto for you:
"If at first you don't succeed, give up and become a puppy".
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General Windypops
Gallente Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:34:00 -
[60]
Edited by: General Windypops on 10/04/2007 12:30:56
Quote: When BoB are so strong, why they run if they see a D2 frig?
Considering D2's habit of unleashing DDs on their own members, people probably see a D2 ship and fear the white light...
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General Windypops
Gallente Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:34:00 -
[61]
Edited by: General Windypops on 10/04/2007 12:30:56
Quote: When BoB are so strong, why they run if they see a D2 frig?
Considering D2's habit of unleashing DDs on their own members, people probably see a D2 ship and fear the white light...
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:38:00 -
[62]
Originally by: King Fury
What proof do you want? Heres some:
T20 Nebulai Vegeta-Lemonde GM - cant remember but was in evol since beta.
You cant see the wood for the trees mate 
OMG, devs with their player accounts in a player alliance. Tell me it isn't so. Ooh, the proof is unbearable, someone make it stop!!
Quick, let's out their player characters so they can't play the game anymore! That will surely make this game better!
BTW, where's your list on devs/gm's that aren't in Bob but in some other player alliance... we don't want to be unfair do we? Wait, do we?! -- .sig apathy ftw |

prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:38:00 -
[63]
Originally by: King Fury
What proof do you want? Heres some:
T20 Nebulai Vegeta-Lemonde GM - cant remember but was in evol since beta.
You cant see the wood for the trees mate 
OMG, devs with their player accounts in a player alliance. Tell me it isn't so. Ooh, the proof is unbearable, someone make it stop!!
Quick, let's out their player characters so they can't play the game anymore! That will surely make this game better!
BTW, where's your list on devs/gm's that aren't in Bob but in some other player alliance... we don't want to be unfair do we? Wait, do we?! -- .sig apathy ftw |

Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:42:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Ceratin Who is dirty deeds corp? where is your space again?
KthxBye :P
Having known Uhmari from the past, plus seeing his recent corp list history, his post does not suprise me.
Uhmari, why not try to stay with a Corp for a while, and instead trying to teach everyone how to do things, you try to learn something from them! I assure you, you have way more to learn then you can start to imagine!
When it comes to the great war.. Just let the war between the coalition and the alliance continue as it do. Its just a war just like so many others we have seen in EVE. Larger, I'll grant you. But just another war. As soon you start to treat it otherwise, this is not a game anymore.
Originally by: Eldo Davip PORTRAITS OMFG WOOT. WE R GONIG FOR MROE BREEE!!!!11
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:42:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Ceratin Who is dirty deeds corp? where is your space again?
KthxBye :P
Having known Uhmari from the past, plus seeing his recent corp list history, his post does not suprise me.
Uhmari, why not try to stay with a Corp for a while, and instead trying to teach everyone how to do things, you try to learn something from them! I assure you, you have way more to learn then you can start to imagine!
When it comes to the great war.. Just let the war between the coalition and the alliance continue as it do. Its just a war just like so many others we have seen in EVE. Larger, I'll grant you. But just another war. As soon you start to treat it otherwise, this is not a game anymore.
Originally by: Eldo Davip PORTRAITS OMFG WOOT. WE R GONIG FOR MROE BREEE!!!!11
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Jet Max
Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:44:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 10/04/2007 11:17:41 Christ, why are all the thread's in the last week vomit inducing?
Whats all this - this or that thread ftl or vomit inducing? Some people at work are bored you know and all i can do at my breaks is read something on teh forums So i am voting for more "BOB teh pwn" and "Coalition is s**t" threads! So i can laff my socks off while at work 
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Jet Max
Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.10 12:44:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 10/04/2007 11:17:41 Christ, why are all the thread's in the last week vomit inducing?
Whats all this - this or that thread ftl or vomit inducing? Some people at work are bored you know and all i can do at my breaks is read something on teh forums So i am voting for more "BOB teh pwn" and "Coalition is s**t" threads! So i can laff my socks off while at work 
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Dionisius
Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:01:00 -
[68]
Originally by: nico wurz250 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 12:03:31 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 12:02:33 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 12:00:15 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 11:59:28 >>Xelas, you fail to rail Xelas, without the meatshields you could focus on whats >>relevant and important in this war, fighting BoB.
The coalition is the north and the south, BoB is fighting together in south OR north.
The coalition is fighting BoB and OMG meatshields? what for a name.

What next? makeing movies on the testserver and let the territorial map base on it?

Dude you missed the point, need a pretty picture? _______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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Dionisius
Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:01:00 -
[69]
Originally by: nico wurz250 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 12:03:31 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 12:02:33 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 12:00:15 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 11:59:28 >>Xelas, you fail to rail Xelas, without the meatshields you could focus on whats >>relevant and important in this war, fighting BoB.
The coalition is the north and the south, BoB is fighting together in south OR north.
The coalition is fighting BoB and OMG meatshields? what for a name.

What next? makeing movies on the testserver and let the territorial map base on it?

Dude you missed the point, need a pretty picture? _______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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geewiz
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:05:00 -
[70]
Picture the scene...
Steelrat was chilling in his ship and smiling with fond memories of space ownership when all of a sudden....OHNOES its the Molle Phone!!! He takes the clear plastic bowl cover off the bright pink phone vibrating away thinking "bugger this has not rang since ASCN days"
With trepidation Steelrat picks up the phone with a "whats up boss" lots of shouting and screaming ensures with phone held at arms length. What can be heard even from this distance is "stay on message" "only post BS & Smack with 1 member corps with threads like "anyone know about some dreads lost last night? bait"
Steelrat shouts to his XO "quick to teh forum mobil" with a cute pic of demise of memmber not "on message"

PS to the OP posting on COAD can seriously damage your wealth!
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geewiz
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:05:00 -
[71]
Picture the scene...
Steelrat was chilling in his ship and smiling with fond memories of space ownership when all of a sudden....OHNOES its the Molle Phone!!! He takes the clear plastic bowl cover off the bright pink phone vibrating away thinking "bugger this has not rang since ASCN days"
With trepidation Steelrat picks up the phone with a "whats up boss" lots of shouting and screaming ensures with phone held at arms length. What can be heard even from this distance is "stay on message" "only post BS & Smack with 1 member corps with threads like "anyone know about some dreads lost last night? bait"
Steelrat shouts to his XO "quick to teh forum mobil" with a cute pic of demise of memmber not "on message"

PS to the OP posting on COAD can seriously damage your wealth!
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Quillan Rage
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:10:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Quillan Rage on 10/04/2007 13:08:11 Currently you have lots of rich alliances going into combat almost nightly, with both sides taking continuous losses across both Capital and non-Capital ship types.
For a PvP alliance, this is exactly what we want. Win/loose or draw we get to fight.... I still think the Coalition have a few isks left to replace the lost Caps and I am pretty sure that most of the PvP'ers on both sides will keep getting into ships and flying them straight into combat until they are left with their noob ship and a civilian gattling - at that point you can start talking of defeat!
Kittens in Tinfoil Hats |

Quillan Rage
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:10:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Quillan Rage on 10/04/2007 13:08:11 Currently you have lots of rich alliances going into combat almost nightly, with both sides taking continuous losses across both Capital and non-Capital ship types.
For a PvP alliance, this is exactly what we want. Win/loose or draw we get to fight.... I still think the Coalition have a few isks left to replace the lost Caps and I am pretty sure that most of the PvP'ers on both sides will keep getting into ships and flying them straight into combat until they are left with their noob ship and a civilian gattling - at that point you can start talking of defeat!
Kittens in Tinfoil Hats |

Atreus Minmatarius
Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:26:00 -
[74]
noone sees the irony here??? when somebody post crap everyone says post with your main.... then some guy does tha and gets kicked out of his corp. that is the funeh if you ask me. it will also not encourage posting with mains so i suggest you reinvite that guy in axe for the sake of the forum!!!
what i say is my own opinion and does not represent any entity other than myself |

Turin Shroud
Gallente Fermentation Process
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:26:00 -
[75]
iron? pvp alliance?
lol?
arent you just D2 pets?
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Atreus Minmatarius
Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:26:00 -
[76]
noone sees the irony here??? when somebody post crap everyone says post with your main.... then some guy does tha and gets kicked out of his corp. that is the funeh if you ask me. it will also not encourage posting with mains so i suggest you reinvite that guy in axe for the sake of the forum!!!
what i say is my own opinion and does not represent any entity other than myself |

Turin Shroud
Gallente Fermentation Process
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:26:00 -
[77]
iron? pvp alliance?
lol?
arent you just D2 pets?
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Ilkezoe32d
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:27:00 -
[78]
Quote: and personally i have seen evidence that bob is still exploiting devie powers
I hate to say this but.....
Proof for STFU.
personally i have seen evidence that god speaks to me through a mango. I said it on the interweb it must be true.
Generation emo shouldn't be allowed near the forums.
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Ilkezoe32d
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:27:00 -
[79]
Quote: and personally i have seen evidence that bob is still exploiting devie powers
I hate to say this but.....
Proof for STFU.
personally i have seen evidence that god speaks to me through a mango. I said it on the interweb it must be true.
Generation emo shouldn't be allowed near the forums.
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Helina Malinos
Caldari Euro Traders
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:31:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Quillan Rage Edited by: Quillan Rage on 10/04/2007 13:08:11 Currently you have lots of rich alliances going into combat almost nightly, with both sides taking continuous losses across both Capital and non-Capital ship types.
For a PvP alliance, this is exactly what we want. Win/loose or draw we get to fight.... I still think the Coalition have a few isks left to replace the lost Caps and I am pretty sure that most of the PvP'ers on both sides will keep getting into ships and flying them straight into combat until they are left with their noob ship and a civilian gattling - at that point you can start talking of defeat!
Welcome to EVE. when can we expect IRON to join the fight?
No pos spamming is not fighting.
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Helina Malinos
Caldari Euro Traders
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:31:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Quillan Rage Edited by: Quillan Rage on 10/04/2007 13:08:11 Currently you have lots of rich alliances going into combat almost nightly, with both sides taking continuous losses across both Capital and non-Capital ship types.
For a PvP alliance, this is exactly what we want. Win/loose or draw we get to fight.... I still think the Coalition have a few isks left to replace the lost Caps and I am pretty sure that most of the PvP'ers on both sides will keep getting into ships and flying them straight into combat until they are left with their noob ship and a civilian gattling - at that point you can start talking of defeat!
Welcome to EVE. when can we expect IRON to join the fight?
No pos spamming is not fighting.
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:35:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Helina Malinos Welcome to EVE. when can we expect IRON to join the fight?
No pos spamming is not fighting.
When can we expect Euro Traders to join the fight?
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:35:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Helina Malinos Welcome to EVE. when can we expect IRON to join the fight?
No pos spamming is not fighting.
When can we expect Euro Traders to join the fight?
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Weka Dart
Caldari Band of Sisters
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:40:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Helina Malinos
Originally by: Quillan Rage Edited by: Quillan Rage on 10/04/2007 13:08:11 Currently you have lots of rich alliances going into combat almost nightly, with both sides taking continuous losses across both Capital and non-Capital ship types.
For a PvP alliance, this is exactly what we want. Win/loose or draw we get to fight.... I still think the Coalition have a few isks left to replace the lost Caps and I am pretty sure that most of the PvP'ers on both sides will keep getting into ships and flying them straight into combat until they are left with their noob ship and a civilian gattling - at that point you can start talking of defeat!
Welcome to EVE. when can we expect IRON to join the fight?
No pos spamming is not fighting.
The best part of you ran down your mothers leg when you were born.
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Weka Dart
Caldari Band of Sisters
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:40:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Helina Malinos
Originally by: Quillan Rage Edited by: Quillan Rage on 10/04/2007 13:08:11 Currently you have lots of rich alliances going into combat almost nightly, with both sides taking continuous losses across both Capital and non-Capital ship types.
For a PvP alliance, this is exactly what we want. Win/loose or draw we get to fight.... I still think the Coalition have a few isks left to replace the lost Caps and I am pretty sure that most of the PvP'ers on both sides will keep getting into ships and flying them straight into combat until they are left with their noob ship and a civilian gattling - at that point you can start talking of defeat!
Welcome to EVE. when can we expect IRON to join the fight?
No pos spamming is not fighting.
The best part of you ran down your mothers leg when you were born.
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The Dokter
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:44:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Kraeze Remember, BoB had some CCP luck. Didn't get punished....
Remember RA and there complex farming exploits?
Stop naging and start fighting 
"It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you." |

acompton
Gallente Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.04.10 14:02:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Weka Dart
Originally by: Helina Malinos
Originally by: Quillan Rage Edited by: Quillan Rage on 10/04/2007 13:08:11 Currently you have lots of rich alliances going into combat almost nightly, with both sides taking continuous losses across both Capital and non-Capital ship types.
For a PvP alliance, this is exactly what we want. Win/loose or draw we get to fight.... I still think the Coalition have a few isks left to replace the lost Caps and I am pretty sure that most of the PvP'ers on both sides will keep getting into ships and flying them straight into combat until they are left with their noob ship and a civilian gattling - at that point you can start talking of defeat!
Welcome to EVE. when can we expect IRON to join the fight?
No pos spamming is not fighting.
The best part of you ran down your mothers leg when you were born.
A bit crude and inappropriate BUT... Learn to smack properly if you wish to participate, you are mixing metaphors here. I think you mean to say when they were "conceived" not when they were born.
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geewiz
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.10 14:03:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Helina Malinos
Originally by: Quillan Rage Edited by: Quillan Rage on 10/04/2007 13:08:11 Currently you have lots of rich alliances going into combat almost nightly, with both sides taking continuous losses across both Capital and non-Capital ship types.
For a PvP alliance, this is exactly what we want. Win/loose or draw we get to fight.... I still think the Coalition have a few isks left to replace the lost Caps and I am pretty sure that most of the PvP'ers on both sides will keep getting into ships and flying them straight into combat until they are left with their noob ship and a civilian gattling - at that point you can start talking of defeat!
Welcome to EVE. when can we expect IRON to join the fight?
No pos spamming is not fighting.
Blatent alt flame bait but feel compelled to reply...
http://www.iron-alliance.com/kb/campaigns.php?c_id=8
Guess it's back to guristas farming for me IRON not fighting and all...
gee
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Gaunty
Macabre Votum INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.04.10 14:09:00 -
[89]
This war is the worst thing to have ever happened to these forums.
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Kreul Intentions
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.04.10 14:31:00 -
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Thread scrubbed. Remember to post constructively and respectively. Do not troll or flame others.
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Ramireza
Caldari Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.10 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: Ramireza on 10/04/2007 14:53:31 Eve comnunity > further down the spiral 
No respect anymore, thats realy sad...
And i mean BOTH "sides"...
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Ramireza
Caldari Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.10 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: Ramireza on 10/04/2007 14:53:31 Eve comnunity > further down the spiral 
No respect anymore, thats realy sad...
And i mean BOTH "sides"...
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Ramireza
Caldari Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.10 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: Ramireza on 10/04/2007 14:53:31 Eve comnunity > further down the spiral 
No respect anymore, thats realy sad...
And i mean BOTH "sides"...
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Almarez
Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.10 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Fedaykinn Edited by: Fedaykinn on 10/04/2007 11:45:00
Originally by: killerco
Originally by: Fedaykinn No one had the will to fight BoB on there own grounds until now,
i'll have too correct you on that,ASCN tried it first 
I wasnt around much during the ASCN/BoB war was kinda busy but i thought ASCN only fought a defensive battle against BoB never an offensive one, as it was BoB who betrayed them after they were allies togeather for so long.
Allies? Where are you getting your information? There was a mutual respect, don't bother me I don't bother you type of thing. Then ASCN destroyed Tribal Souls and took over Paragon, a move some may have seen as setting the staging point for an invasion into BoB space. After the public showing of the titan (and some information from the now disbanned Tribal Souls members) BoB attacked and removed them.
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Almarez
Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.10 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Fedaykinn Edited by: Fedaykinn on 10/04/2007 11:45:00
Originally by: killerco
Originally by: Fedaykinn No one had the will to fight BoB on there own grounds until now,
i'll have too correct you on that,ASCN tried it first 
I wasnt around much during the ASCN/BoB war was kinda busy but i thought ASCN only fought a defensive battle against BoB never an offensive one, as it was BoB who betrayed them after they were allies togeather for so long.
Allies? Where are you getting your information? There was a mutual respect, don't bother me I don't bother you type of thing. Then ASCN destroyed Tribal Souls and took over Paragon, a move some may have seen as setting the staging point for an invasion into BoB space. After the public showing of the titan (and some information from the now disbanned Tribal Souls members) BoB attacked and removed them.
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MonkSEALPup
Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.10 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Gaunty This war is the worst thing to have ever happened to these forums.
/signed
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.04.10 15:27:00 -
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*yawns and walks in, coffee in hand* Oh? The war's still going? *looks at all the smack from alts and mains alike* Oh yeah. Definetly. Well, wake me when it's over. *goes back to bed in cozy lowsec*
Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.10 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Uhmari I was like you, Long ago. I sought to fight bob, because they were a challange, and they still are.
Why do you insist on fighting them? why do you try to kill those who are stronger then you? You claim they are tyrant, They are no such thing, They are just pvpers, doing what they like, Pvp. Stop making them out to be a evil force, they are just another alliance, agressive, and well organized.
your so fixed on beating bob, and yet keep losing, Ever stop to think about why that is so? you keep using the same approach, You unite many alliances to fight, But you are to arrogant and to stuborn to elect a single leader, EVEN bob has stated that if you did such, you could defeat them. Try something new, Or get off the bandwagon, Because your about to get wtf pwned.
I am loyal to the alliances i serve, If they are friendly or hostile to XYZ i dont care, But when i am corpless, and when i am not in an alliance, I choose my personal relationships; personally i think you are all to stupid to beat bo. *sinp* Please do not troll - Kreul
Change your approach, your doom approaches.
-uhmari
zomg flame ! :)
1. if we ever have choose a central commander, there would have lots of "me, me, me" political bull**** that would not have been effective. See second point. 2. the East Coalition (aka RAGoons) is made of pvpers only. We are still undefeated as was Bob until recently (Joshua, long time no updates on your map, strange isn't it ?). 3. decentralization of our power is the key to our success. This way : each group of players have the rigth to do whatever they want for the coa (hence the will to do whatever they want to help). This way, if one of the allied party takes major damages the entire political system is harmfree. At the moment, if one allied party takes minor damage, 30% of our forces goes into the problem and wipe it (LV was, I think and beleive me or not, around a 50%). We used 200% of the east's force (east+north) only once, and it was a failure to Bob's eyes/a victory to us depending on which side you support. 4. enough with LordMolle. Hence our political system, which is a mess, etc. We don't care, the RAGoon are military revolutionist people. Bob is an stable entity, which grows and grows and said once they will eat us. ---> "zomg bob is ebil htey awtns to eatzzz us!!!oneeleventy". 5. I don't play Doom.
By the way, let's talk about the RAGoon case, would you ? Anyone see them as ebil due to lots of "zomg RAloggzzzinplexusingalts!!one" and lots of "zomg Goonscamzzzzbabyeatzorzz !!!!". Everyone beleive that. Guess what ? I (we ?) don't give a ****.
I think, if I have to say "Thank you for the com/intel, SirMolle", that we are the one who should be called the ebil eve monster. Boohoo.
Stop whining using your alts and play. -----
History is made by whinners
Originally by: Clavius Der I dont understand why are these big things (titans, heavy armed poses) in game if they are destroyable with metagaming only
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General Windypops
Gallente Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.10 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn The key to our success.
Um, has the Cryallition had a single notable success in the last fortnight?
I picture Kweel on the cover of a cheap paperback book - "Kweel Nakashyn - How decentralised power was the Secret of my Success"
And next week, "Originality in Combat", by Burn Eden.
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.10 16:22:00 -
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Cryallition ? That's original. We're the CryEngine beware :)))) -----
History is made by whinners
Originally by: Clavius Der I dont understand why are these big things (titans, heavy armed poses) in game if they are destroyable with metagaming only
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.10 16:23:00 -
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Please.... What a stupid post. Even if we were to role play, any1 analysing BoB's history KNOWS they are the bad guys. I mean come on, they had Mo0 at one pt aswell. ------------------
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.10 16:27:00 -
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yes but we have Sniggs in ours. ebil piwat, you know. And the sulfurous Goons. And... even frenches :)))) -----
History is made by whinners
Originally by: Clavius Der I dont understand why are these big things (titans, heavy armed poses) in game if they are destroyable with metagaming only
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Maenoise
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Posted - 2007.04.10 16:41:00 -
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Edited by: Maenoise on 10/04/2007 16:38:21 Stupid alt
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Havras
The Syndicate Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.10 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Almarez
Originally by: Fedaykinn Edited by: Fedaykinn on 10/04/2007 11:45:00
Originally by: killerco
Originally by: Fedaykinn No one had the will to fight BoB on there own grounds until now,
i'll have too correct you on that,ASCN tried it first 
I wasnt around much during the ASCN/BoB war was kinda busy but i thought ASCN only fought a defensive battle against BoB never an offensive one, as it was BoB who betrayed them after they were allies togeather for so long.
Allies? Where are you getting your information? There was a mutual respect, don't bother me I don't bother you type of thing. Then ASCN destroyed Tribal Souls and took over Paragon, a move some may have seen as setting the staging point for an invasion into BoB space. After the public showing of the titan (and some information from the now disbanned Tribal Souls members) BoB attacked and removed them.
Allies? Where are you getting your information? There was a mutual respect, don't bother me I don't bother you type of thing. Then ASCN destroyed Tribal Souls and took over Paragon, a move some may have seen as setting the staging point for an invasion into BoB space. After the public showing of the titan (and some information from the now disbanned Tribal Souls members) BoB attacked and removed them.
ROFL. Even Uhmari's utter drivel almost sounded intelligent next to your tin foil hattery.
The reason Tribal Souls was removed was made clear a long time ago. They kept screwing around and going back on agreements and finally crossed the line one to many times. It had ZERO to do with BOB other then the fact that if BOB did attack they would have rolled over TS in 2 days, not the week it took ASCN, and been right on ASCN's doorstep.
There was no move to invade BOB until BOB declared war.
As for the OP.. same BOB fanboi drivel he kept spewing when he was in ASCN fleets during that war. He was eventually removed from ASCN because he wouldn't shut up.
And Steel's reply made me lol. :p
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Landen Phoenix
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Posted - 2007.04.10 16:55:00 -
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Edited by: Landen Phoenix on 10/04/2007 16:52:12 NM
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larietta
production management team
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Posted - 2007.04.10 17:01:00 -
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dear uhmari when you get steels boot out ov your ass can you awake up and smell the roses ddc members dont post crap like that on eve-o .... its not what ddc is about ddc is about the game and playing it with friends,shooting targets and having fun and saying welldone even if thay get omgwtfpwned .... i would be shocked if you are in corp much longer..
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niroshido
Caldari Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.10 17:23:00 -
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simply put:
together we stand seperated we fall
working together as a team delivering ORGANISED blows is important
a great offence is the best defence
if your offence is well organised and hits hard, the need to defend yourself reduces, allowing you to pour more and more into your attacks wearing down the enemies defence AKA war of attrition.
if ye so want to kill BOB study them, study there tactics, analize there strategize there moves, find there weakness and there strengths, compare that to your alliances weakness and strengths, and size up a strategy which exploits there weakness
i know BOB's weakness, and there strengths, i know what is needed to achieve this so called 'crushing of BOB', but in order to achieve this milestone, you need to improve your alliance, your coalitions communication skills etc.
an alliance is only as good as the pilots who reside in it, think smart, think carfully and bloody plan your attacks correctly
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Cmd Woodlouse
moon7empler Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.10 17:25:00 -
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The only truth i can see in here is that both the alliance and coalition is destroying this game if we continue to treat the opposite side in such an a$$-hatastic way. --------------------------------
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Karunel
Princeps Corp YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.10 17:35:00 -
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Quote: The only truth i can see in here is that both the alliance and coalition is destroying this game if we continue to treat the opposite side in such an a$$-hatastic way.
Hey look!
A good post!

Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
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Haffrage
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.10 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Mezcal Gee, Axe has went so downhill since they got kicked out of Impass
A little bitter we didn't get 4 ogre II's and 2 tech 1 nos out of a privateer wreck, are we?  -----
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nico wurz250
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.10 17:48:00 -
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May be coalition and alliance are the bad too.
What about game mechanics? Or the pilots who have a bloody history at each other? This war is not a war of newbees, its a war of old things i think.
Its changing game mechanics, died corps, died alliances and of course the badest old friends.
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Nore Khadafi
Minmatar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.04.10 17:57:00 -
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Quote: the word praetor derives from an ancient roman elite gard known as the praetorians, And their leader, Caesar, The praetor or "protector of the people".
Sorry to be "that guy" but I've got to correct you on this. The word praetor came well before praetorians. Praetor was the title granted to the commander of an army or an elected magistrate. The word originates from the Latin word for an army headquarters (more specifically the commander's tent on a battlefield) praetorium. The word praetorian comes from the name for the elite guard that was assigned to a Praetor, the Praetorian Guard. The prefix prae- is synonymous with the prefix pre- which means 'before', the suffix -torium indicates a place or thing appropriate for the verb to which it is affixed. So the Praetorium would literally mean 'the place before' and on a battlefield the place before the battle would be the headquarters or commanders tent. It definitely does not mean "protector of the people".
The important thing to note here is that regardless of whether or not you're talking about a Praetor or a Praetorian the title itself does not imply a 'Supreme Leader' or 'Caesar' or 'protector of the people' or whatever you want to call it. A Praetor is a sub-group of the leadership in the ancient roman government falling under the category of "Magistrate" which would be below even "Extraordinary Magistrate" which is itself below Caesar. In modern day society a praetor would be a mid-level government official possibly a governor or state official, or more on task it would be a mid level military official.
So not only are you wrong in your argument overall you're wrong in its very foundation as well as your semantics.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.10 18:04:00 -
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Poor Axe alliance...once proud PvP arm of ASCN, now bob slave propagating bob's driveling propaganda on the forums.
The coalition fights because we don't want to be bob slaves. The coalition fights because bob needs to pay for their arrogance, and their cheating. The coalition fights because there is no other option.
Shamis
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DeathGrip
Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.10 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Poor Axe alliance...once proud PvP arm of ASCN, now bob slave propagating bob's driveling propaganda on the forums.
The coalition fights because we don't want to be bob slaves. The coalition fights because bob needs to pay for their arrogance, and their cheating. The coalition fights because there is no other option.
Shamis
First off, Snig and Axe have had some great fights in past 2 weeks, so I will try not to turn this into a flame as you have.
This was not Axe propaganda, Axe dosnt use propaganda, I think I am probably the main person in Axe that even posts on these forums, and that is normally to say thank you for the butt kicking you gave us, or vice versa. If you look this member is no longer Axe, and if you read the post you will see Steel drew a nice picture about this member.
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DeathGrip
Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.10 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ceratin Who is dirty deeds corp? where is your space again?
KthxBye :P
First off you were in E-R so I know you know who we are. If not you should really look into your corps history before joining.
Second off you don't need space to be recognized.
Third off as you will find out, maybe not in this war, maybe not for 2 years to come, all alliances tend to lose there space over time. But then again looking at your corp history you have to stay in a corp longer than a few months to see this. You have been in some pretty decent corps, and left them all.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.10 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: DeathGrip
First off, Snig and Axe have had some great fights in past 2 weeks, so I will try not to turn this into a flame as you have.
This was not Axe propaganda, Axe dosnt use propaganda, I think I am probably the main person in Axe that even posts on these forums, and that is normally to say thank you for the butt kicking you gave us, or vice versa. If you look this member is no longer Axe, and if you read the post you will see Steel drew a nice picture about this member.
My apologies. I missed Steel's post. My post has been edited accordingly. I still think you guys are on the wrong side though...I can understand you not liking -A-, but they only reason they took your space is because bob was crushing ASCN.
shamis
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DeathGrip
Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.10 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: DeathGrip
Originally by: Ceratin Who is dirty deeds corp? where is your space again?
KthxBye :P
First off you were in E-R so I know you know who we are. If not you should really look into your corps history before joining.
Second off you don't need space to be recognized.
Third off as you will find out, maybe not in this war, maybe not for 2 years to come, all alliances tend to lose there space over time. But then again looking at your corp history you have to stay in a corp longer than a few months to see this. You have been in some pretty decent corps, and left them all.
One little addition since d2 members want to start this over again. Take a look at your killboard, and search Axiom Empire. You will see some not so nice stats. YOu are also missing atleast 2 bs's and a carrier loss from those stats as well. So I think your alliance knows who we are. We may not be the largest alliance, the most feared alliance, but most who fight us do know who we are.
To the rest of D2 that don't engage in this senseless smacktalk, keep up the great fights, past few nights in fountain have been a blast.
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ElweSingollo
The Vanyar
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Posted - 2007.04.10 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Steel Rat
Originally by: MINSuicide
Uhh...wtf did you just try to say?
Better ask Steel Rat to draw your post out with crayons
As per your request, a Crayon drawing. Now mind you, its probably not what you or Uhmari expect but I think everyone will get the picture.
Altho there is no rule you can't post on E-O, making yourself look like a pinhead and bringing down the IQ of Axe 50 points does annoy me. So without further ado:
Crayon Drawing
This post wins Eve for today 
CCP and Eve Online... It's not a bug, it's a feature
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crice
Caldari CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.10 20:23:00 -
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I have been in EvE longer then most of you and an enemy of BoB/RKK/EVOl specifically for almost 4 years.. Till now.
What would EvE be without BoB?
I appreciate GOONS bringing paying customers to EvE, that is about it.
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JoeT
Amarr Nuclear Rental Service
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Posted - 2007.04.10 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: nico wurz250 When BoB are so strong, why they run if they see a D2 frig?
Without terror and mythologie they are nothing. Without 100s of capitals they loose. Without internal knowledge they loose.
The Coalition has the balls to fight against BoB, against that what is behind the name BoB. Because - WE LOVE EvE.
And, are winning, donŠt you?
Dont think BOB needs to run from a frig if you all keep DDing your own fleet with it.
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Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.04.10 21:34:00 -
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The DDC fellas are nice peeps. AXE fought hard and well in the AAA war, but we lost. End of topic. Good luck to my ex-comrades, wish them well in their own affairs, [/b]which are theirs and theirs alone[/b]
Still... As I bet I said before somewhere, I don`t like any side on this war. 
No way both sides can lose?
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Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.04.10 21:34:00 -
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The DDC fellas are nice peeps. AXE fought hard and well in the AAA war, but we lost. End of topic. Good luck to my ex-comrades, wish them well in their own affairs, [/b]which are theirs and theirs alone[/b]
Still... As I bet I said before somewhere, I don`t like any side on this war. 
No way both sides can lose?
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.10 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: DeathGrip This was not Axe propaganda, Axe dosnt use propaganda, I think I am probably the main person in Axe that even posts on these forums, and that is normally to say thank you for the butt kicking you gave us, or vice versa. If you look this member is no longer Axe, and if you read the post you will see Steel drew a nice picture about this member.
Steel's crayon drawing is my desktop background for the next few days, just to keep me in line!
--P
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Uhmari
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.04.10 23:18:00 -
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ccp moderator,
you remove my post in reguards to exploitation of game mechanics yet again, Now i grow angery, and as such i have given proof to the coalition who is fighting bob, Another issue will arise and how that bob is cheating yet again,
when will ccp resolve this issue? or will bobs alts keep sniping the truth and throwing it in darkness. Empires are built on conquest and war, not peace and trade. |

Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.10 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 10/04/2007 23:17:29
Originally by: JoeT
Dont think BOB needs to run from a frig if you all keep DDing your own fleet with it.
it was a cyno carrier btw...(which is even funnier )
Glad you are up to speed, and all ships were reimbursed 
..nice shuttle kill in your sig...go you 
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Cmd Woodlouse
moon7empler Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.10 23:38:00 -
[126]
Originally by: DeathGrip
Originally by: DeathGrip
Originally by: Ceratin Who is dirty deeds corp? where is your space again?
KthxBye :P
First off you were in E-R so I know you know who we are. If not you should really look into your corps history before joining.
Second off you don't need space to be recognized.
Third off as you will find out, maybe not in this war, maybe not for 2 years to come, all alliances tend to lose there space over time. But then again looking at your corp history you have to stay in a corp longer than a few months to see this. You have been in some pretty decent corps, and left them all.
One little addition since d2 members want to start this over again. Take a look at your killboard, and search Axiom Empire. You will see some not so nice stats. YOu are also missing atleast 2 bs's and a carrier loss from those stats as well. So I think your alliance knows who we are. We may not be the largest alliance, the most feared alliance, but most who fight us do know who we are.
To the rest of D2 that don't engage in this senseless smacktalk, keep up the great fights, past few nights in fountain have been a blast.
signed, lets have some good fights! --------------------------------
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Brunswick2
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.04.11 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: Drake Mezcal Gee, Axe has went so downhill since they got kicked out of Impass
A little bitter we didn't get 4 ogre II's and 2 tech 1 nos out of a privateer wreck, are we? 
Originally by: Steel Rat Privateer Alliance has a war dec on us, so they will be seeing lots of us very shortly.
We still have our own space, the same can't be said about DDC can it.
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.11 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Brunswick2
We still have our own space, the same can't be said about DDC can it.
You don't need space to shoot people, you need space to carebear. Targets with space doesn't hurt, though.
Quote: How's that saying go? something about a pot calling a kettle black.... but the kettle getting the last laugh because it was banging the pot's sister? Yeah, that sounds right.
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Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.11 03:22:00 -
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Originally by: Uhmari ccp moderator,
you remove my post in reguards to exploitation of game mechanics yet again, Now i grow angery, and as such i have given proof to the coalition who is fighting bob, Another issue will arise and how that bob is cheating yet again,
when will ccp resolve this issue? or will bobs alts keep sniping the truth and throwing it in darkness.
Just like with pnqy local chat, don't listen to this fool, he simply stirs up trouble and has absolutely no clue.
He said a Rokh is a good armor tank ffs.
Uhmari back in Imperial Shipment, who didn't see that comming.
God I hope this is under 24kb It is :) Kreul Intentions |

Peter Armstrong
Caldari 5punkorp Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.04.11 04:25:00 -
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Originally by: Minigin i'm so confused... bob is still cheating but we should all just give in because they would win anyway?
And other people in other alliance dont? yes they do! So bob no worse then really!
Originally by: nico wurz250 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 10/04/2007 12:03:31
>>Xelas, you fail to rail Xelas, without the meatshields you could focus on whats >>relevant and important in this war, fighting BoB.
The coalition is the north and the south, BoB is fighting together in south OR north.
The coalition is fighting BoB and OMG meatshields? what for a name.

umm and you dont have meat sheild like goons then?
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot BOB punches your face in.
BOB tells you that you fought well.
You run after BOB like a demented Jack Russell with your tongue hanging out, trying to sniff their privates.
Head shaking respect to BOB.
A bowl full of my sick to the op. Here's a motto for you:
"If at first you don't succeed, give up and become a puppy".
 
Originally by: Gaunty This war is the worst thing to have ever happened to these forums.
I totaly agree. I remember 3 years ago when fighting in EC- and killing everyone but we taken it as a game. Now EVE has grown so much people forget its a game! How i see people behaving in this fourms is unreal. My question are we really any better than WoW fourms now?
As someone said before There no respect in EVE anymore. Respect i give to to bob and some there allys like MC and Fix etc. Other Alliance like IAC,Goons etc have no respect because all i seen and experiance with them is personal insults and Very heavy smack. When it comes to Cheating Everyone the same! EVERYONE
sorry for spelling and grammer its 5:21 and havent been to sleep yet  
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DeathGrip
Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.11 04:51:00 -
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Originally by: Brunswick2
Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: Drake Mezcal Gee, Axe has went so downhill since they got kicked out of Impass
A little bitter we didn't get 4 ogre II's and 2 tech 1 nos out of a privateer wreck, are we? 
Originally by: Steel Rat Privateer Alliance has a war dec on us, so they will be seeing lots of us very shortly.
We still have our own space, the same can't be said about DDC can it.
Mate what you copied and then replied with make absolute no sense. YOu decided to get in the middle of a Privateer fight and DDC fight and smack us about what I dont know. You have 0.0 Space Big Yippity Yay For you I guess. Enjoy the POS's and carebearing. Thats not what Axe is about, and will hopefully ever be about again. We just go where we can shoot stuff.
Only conclusion i can come up with is your a privateer alt or somthing.
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Haffrage
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.11 04:59:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Brunswick2
Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: Drake Mezcal Gee, Axe has went so downhill since they got kicked out of Impass
A little bitter we didn't get 4 ogre II's and 2 tech 1 nos out of a privateer wreck, are we? 
Originally by: Steel Rat Privateer Alliance has a war dec on us, so they will be seeing lots of us very shortly.
We still have our own space, the same can't be said about DDC can it.
if you could point to the relevance of your post to you being whiny about not getting a T1 fit myrm's loot I'd appreciate it tbh 
Oh I get it, let me try
Originally by: Pilk
Originally by: DeathGrip This was not Axe propaganda, Axe dosnt use propaganda, I think I am probably the main person in Axe that even posts on these forums, and that is normally to say thank you for the butt kicking you gave us, or vice versa. If you look this member is no longer Axe, and if you read the post you will see Steel drew a nice picture about this member.
Steel's crayon drawing is my desktop background for the next few days, just to keep me in line!
--P
I have a hat.
Originally by: Steel Rat
Originally by: MINSuicide
Uhh...wtf did you just try to say?
Better ask Steel Rat to draw your post out with crayons
As per your request, a Crayon drawing. Now mind you, its probably not what you or Uhmari expect but I think everyone will get the picture.
Altho there is no rule you can't post on E-O, making yourself look like a pinhead and bringing down the IQ of Axe 50 points does annoy me. So without further ado:
Crayon Drawing
All poodles are dogs, but not all dogs are poodles.
Am I doing it right? -----
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Parnbag Dupaye
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.11 06:30:00 -
[133]
*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Ivan K ([email protected]) This is my industrial main ok? |

ArcticFox
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.11 07:24:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Fearless Sheep We fight BoB because of people like you.
Then I suggest you declare war on Imperial Shipment, because we don't like having idiots in our ranks either.  -------------------------- There is only one +6 sword of WTFPWN in Eve, and only the lag is allowed to equip it. |

Alice Cholmondeley
Christine.
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Posted - 2007.04.11 07:40:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 10/04/2007 18:14:29 The coalition fights because we don't want to be bob slaves. The coalition fights because bob needs to pay for their arrogance, and their cheating. The coalition fights because there is no other option.
Shamis
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WhiteSnake
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.04.11 08:08:00 -
[136]
well, from my point of view
BoB will win this war, they will finish it till summer, couse they need rl vacations d2 will retreat, disband the alliance (again for third time) and create who knows d3... and get stronger and fight once again against BoB.
they are all winers since they have a lot of fun fighting each other
crusades against evil or bob domination of all 0.0 are just the means just to have fun, so stop the b/s
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Raznarok
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.11 08:30:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Steel Rat As per your request, a Crayon drawing. Now mind you, its probably not what you or Uhmari expect but I think everyone will get the picture.
Altho there is no rule you can't post on E-O, making yourself look like a pinhead and bringing down the IQ of Axe 50 points does annoy me. So without further ado:
Crayon Drawing
LOOOL! Funny, when I saw the name I thought "I can see a departure from DDC", then Imperial shipments inherited it.
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nico wurz250
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.11 09:09:00 -
[138]
Originally by: WhiteSnake well, from my point of view
BoB will win this war, they will finish it till summer, couse they need rl vacations d2 will retreat, disband the alliance (again for third time) and create who knows d3... and get stronger and fight once again against BoB.
they are all winers since they have a lot of fun fighting each other
crusades against evil or bob domination of all 0.0 are just the means just to have fun, so stop the b/s
Good Post!
I Agree, this war is never done, if BoB disbands they build another Allyance, "BoD" may be. Same D2. But this happen if BoB is down. Before summer the coalition is standing up and fight stronger ever. They only bored ATM because the POS/Titan/Capital shooting stuff, i think.
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.11 10:55:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Uhmari I was like you, Long ago. I sought to fight bob, because they were a challange, and they still are.
Why do you insist on fighting them? why do you try to kill those who are stronger then you? You claim they are tyrant, They are no such thing, They are just pvpers, doing what they like, Pvp. Stop making them out to be a evil force, they are just another alliance, agressive, and well organized.
your so fixed on beating bob, and yet keep losing, Ever stop to think about why that is so? you keep using the same approach, You unite many alliances to fight, But you are to arrogant and to stuborn to elect a single leader, EVEN bob has stated that if you did such, you could defeat them. Try something new, Or get off the bandwagon, Because your about to get wtf pwned.
I am loyal to the alliances i serve, If they are friendly or hostile to XYZ i dont care, But when i am corpless, and when i am not in an alliance, I choose my personal relationships; personally i think you are all to stupid to beat bo. *sinp* Please do not troll - Kreul
Change your approach, your doom approaches.
-uhmari
Hey, you dropped your spine.
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Lakhthaar
Gallente STK Scientific Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.11 11:26:00 -
[140]
Hey I remember you Uhmari. Shortly after you joined ASCN your causing all kinds of trouble. Trying to order people around saying you had the blessing of CYVOK when you did not.
One evening ASCN had caught word of BoB frieghter movements. You became such a distraction on comms a director ordered everybody to block your comms. Whithin an hour of your incessant babbling and spammage an order to pod you was given out by Danari I believe. And, if i remember you were popped in VNGJ.
You were all gung-ho to kill BoB then(not that long ago). Or, so you would have us believe. Now you're a cheerleading fanboy. Looks like you got thrown out of another corp too. Pity.
Hope to see you soon. I look forward to harvesting your frozen corpse and mounting it in my hanger.
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Aldari Verve
Black Omega Security GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.04.11 11:30:00 -
[141]
You can say that we will never defeat bob in the long run. Quit possibly that is true. You can take into account they have 2-3 titans with another being finished soon, That they have 10+ mommies. Also you can take into account that they have the cap fleet, resources, and finances to support an ongoing war far longer than that of any entity in the coalition. All of this may be true. It's not that fact that they are evil it's the arrogence, the blunt disrespect they have shown the rest of eve. The game is going toward the bigger is better aspect and supercaps (titans,ms) are the top dogs. The knowledge of what skills where needed to fly capitals was given to them prepatch. That knowledge allowed them to get the upperhand which allows them to keep the upperhand coupled with their battlestrategy.....divide and conquer.
The coalition attacked them in f-t losing 50+ dreads. You can say that we got raped but my question is this... please point me to the post,patch note, dev blog, gm announcement on public comms stating that the system limit was going to be 430 players in one system. Due to the fact that BOB yet again had inside knowledge was able to gain the upperhand. Many times during or just prior to battles and engagments ts would be DDOS attacked. Coincidence..hardly.
Since the coalition has quieted it attacks on the delve front. BoB members have been seen and reported in various areas. (next part isn't actual fact just observation). BNC are moving north to help MC finish D2...divided. DICE have moved toward tenerifis and the cap fleet was also reported in the area. They are attacking goons in the tenerifis/detorid area. Seems that RKK are the only entity left in the delve region aside from BOB pets. Delve if you don't know "BOB and pets don't fight in delve unless they have too." Good luck getting kills in that region. They run, log, hit the station, ss, cloak before you can get to their belt. There is the occasional mothership they throw at you KNOWING that you can't use any sort of EW on it and if can be out relatively safely.
BOB is going to be a tough nut to *****. It will take time, time isn't soemthing the coalition may or may not have, who says we can't try. Who says we can't unite to fight a hated enemy..a dev backed alliance. To me BOB is a retirement home for pvpers where t2 comes cheap and is the norm where you have your half npc, half conq, complex filled, npc rich, bistot and crokite belts and it all comes too easily. You just have ...divide and conquer and you can have all of that.
My corporation is fighting that despite so many thought we might join bob. It's a tough fight. Frustrating at the amount of cowardice and blobs we see but it's ok we've asked for all of it by entering the delve region and taking the fight to our enemy to learn he doesn't fight in his home space.
Say what you will about the coalition it has it's flaws yes but it also has it's purpose. If we suceed then no more super power. If we fail then bob see that the only people they have left to fight is themsleves and eventuall internal struggle will tear it apart.
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.11 12:20:00 -
[142]
Oh for crying in a bucket Mods please give us the option to block people, caod has become worse than the jerry springer show.
I have seen more smack and insults in 1 of these lameass threads than in local during the past 2 months.
Im sure some wise-ars is going quote me and turn it into an insult so I wont bother reading this thread again.
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.11 12:49:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Aldari Verve It's not that fact that they are evil it's the arrogence, the blunt disrespect they have shown the rest of eve.
Oh please, grow up. Respect isn't something you are entitled to, especially not in a game. This argument just sounds a whole lot like whining to me. Speaking of blunt disrespect, i've never seen Bob ceo's mock players that died IRL for kicks, how about your alliance leaders?
Originally by: Aldari Verve
The knowledge of what skills where needed to fly capitals was given to them prepatch. That knowledge allowed them to get the upperhand ...
Uhm, plenty of people knew what skills were likely to be required, it was discussed on this very forum, in threads with devs in 'm even if i remember correctly. Either you show proof or this is forum coalition fairytale #213123.
Originally by: Aldari Verve The coalition attacked them in f-t losing 50+ dreads. You can say that we got raped but my question is this... please point me to the post,patch note, dev blog, gm announcement on public comms stating that the system limit was going to be 430 players in one system. Due to the fact that BOB yet again had inside knowledge was able to gain the upperhand.
Forum coalition fairytale #213124.
Originally by: Aldari Verve Many times during or just prior to battles and engagments ts would be DDOS attacked. Coincidence..hardly.
Uhuh, and no packet logs again i'm sure. I wonder what kind of excuses people make up when TS fails when there's no big fleets around. Or do they skip the whole "a hacker did it" line of reasoning at that point?
Originally by: Aldari Verve Who says we can't unite to fight a hated enemy..a dev backed alliance.
Nobody, but you could try showing some class for once. This utterly dumb and misinformed fingerpointing at bob as if they are the only alliance with devs/gm's in it is getting really really old and is just as childish as the first time people started it. -- .sig apathy ftw |

dastommy79
Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.11 12:50:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Aldari Verve You can say that we will never defeat bob in the long run. Quit possibly that is true. You can take into account they have 2-3 titans with another being finished soon, That they have 10+ mommies. Also you can take into account that they have the cap fleet, resources, and finances to support an ongoing war far longer than that of any entity in the coalition. All of this may be true. It's not that fact that they are evil it's the arrogence, the blunt disrespect they have shown the rest of eve. The game is going toward the bigger is better aspect and supercaps (titans,ms) are the top dogs. The knowledge of what skills where needed to fly capitals was given to them prepatch. That knowledge allowed them to get the upperhand which allows them to keep the upperhand coupled with their battlestrategy.....divide and conquer.
The coalition attacked them in f-t losing 50+ dreads. You can say that we got raped but my question is this... please point me to the post,patch note, dev blog, gm announcement on public comms stating that the system limit was going to be 430 players in one system. Due to the fact that BOB yet again had inside knowledge was able to gain the upperhand. Many times during or just prior to battles and engagments ts would be DDOS attacked. Coincidence..hardly.
Since the coalition has quieted it attacks on the delve front. BoB members have been seen and reported in various areas. (next part isn't actual fact just observation). BNC are moving north to help MC finish D2...divided. DICE have moved toward tenerifis and the cap fleet was also reported in the area. They are attacking goons in the tenerifis/detorid area. Seems that RKK are the only entity left in the delve region aside from BOB pets. Delve if you don't know "BOB and pets don't fight in delve unless they have too." Good luck getting kills in that region. They run, log, hit the station, ss, cloak before you can get to their belt. There is the occasional mothership they throw at you KNOWING that you can't use any sort of EW on it and if can be out relatively safely.
BOB is going to be a tough nut to *****. It will take time, time isn't soemthing the coalition may or may not have, who says we can't try. Who says we can't unite to fight a hated enemy..a dev backed alliance. To me BOB is a retirement home for pvpers where t2 comes cheap and is the norm where you have your half npc, half conq, complex filled, npc rich, bistot and crokite belts and it all comes too easily. You just have ...divide and conquer and you can have all of that.
My corporation is fighting that despite so many thought we might join bob. It's a tough fight. Frustrating at the amount of cowardice and blobs we see but it's ok we've asked for all of it by entering the delve region and taking the fight to our enemy to learn he doesn't fight in his home space.
Say what you will about the coalition it has it's flaws yes but it also has it's purpose. If we suceed then no more super power. If we fail then bob see that the only people they have left to fight is themsleves and eventuall internal struggle will tear it apart.
/signed http://www.scoutca.com/fekesig2.jpg |

prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.11 12:56:00 -
[145]
Originally by: dastommy79 /signed
Lol. Sad. -- .sig apathy ftw |

Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.11 12:58:00 -
[146]
Originally by: prsr
Originally by: Aldari Verve It's not that fact that they are evil it's the arrogence, the blunt disrespect they have shown the rest of eve.
Oh please, grow up. Respect isn't something you are entitled to, especially not in a game.
When you have to deal with a complete stranger for the first time, what do you do? You say "Hello" or you spit him? Especially in a game. If you act like this in a game, who knows what you could be capable in the real life.
It's called "common sense", but not all of us have it. You don't. Grow up.
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Hast
Refused.
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Posted - 2007.04.11 13:06:00 -
[147]
Edited by: Hast on 11/04/2007 13:02:11
Originally by: Aldari Verve You can say that we got raped but my question is this... please point me to the post,patch note, dev blog, gm announcement on public comms stating that the system limit was going to be 430 players in one system. Due to the fact that BOB yet again had inside knowledge was able to gain the upperhand. Many times during or just prior to battles and engagments ts would be DDOS attacked. Coincidence..hardly.
With all due respect Aldari, dont assume Bob knew that, if they knew that and wanted to exploit it they would probably put 430 people in that system after all. It was as expected that it was gonna end badly in regards of lag, thats just to be expected with the numbers.
Only thing Bob can be accused of in this is great tactical positioning, since they more or less denied the support fleet to enter by placing fleets on the way in and killing the POS that the goons put up in f-t. That made it difficult to jumpbridge the fleet in (assuming that the jump bridge would have worked, wich yet again isnt bobs fault at all.) BoB brought the numbers to defend the shipyard, you brought the number to kill it and the server died.
Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
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dastommy79
Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.11 13:07:00 -
[148]
Originally by: prsr
Originally by: dastommy79 /signed
Lol. Sad.
You know whats sad, you 
must not flame.... ceo said stop flaming noobs on forums but its so difficult........
http://www.scoutca.com/fekesig2.jpg |

Elle Fatalle
Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2007.04.11 13:10:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: prsr
Originally by: Aldari Verve It's not that fact that they are evil it's the arrogence, the blunt disrespect they have shown the rest of eve.
Oh please, grow up. Respect isn't something you are entitled to, especially not in a game.
When you have to deal with a complete stranger for the first time, what do you do? You say "Hello" or you spit him? Especially in a game. If you act like this in a game, who knows what you could be capable in the real life.
It's called "common sense", but not all of us have it. You don't. Grow up.
Comparing a game to real life is almost assanine. If you are going that route, tell goon to quit with the insults in local - Goons are sexually harassing one of our female members of the corp, but I don't hear about their 'bad smack-talk' from the coalition.
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.11 13:23:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam When you have to deal with a complete stranger for the first time, what do you do? You say "Hello" or you spit him?
Those are the only options? Does this stranger come with anyones recomendations? Is this stranger carrying weapons? Why is this stranger trespassing without even calling ahead? Is the stranger carrying equipment to carry my stuff away with him?
Those are just of the top of my head, i don't understand what this story has got to do with EVE or even bob but there you go, hope you are happy now.
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam If you act like this in a game, who knows what you could be capable in the real life.
Sure throw in that old canard as well. I'm sure the pirates in this game are really mean people IRL. I've heard from Kugu that SirMolle is actually some guy that steals old ladies pensions.
Personally this strange reasoning is more fun reversed, what if Genghis Khan was still alive and had an EVE character!?! -- .sig apathy ftw |
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.11 13:38:00 -
[151]
Originally by: dastommy79 You know whats sad, you  must not flame.... ceo said stop flaming noobs on forums but its so difficult........
Your barrage of carefully worded and valid arguments is underwhelming.
I'm sure your CEO is proud of you now. -- .sig apathy ftw |

Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.11 13:53:00 -
[152]
Originally by: prsr Oh please, grow up. Respect isn't something you are entitled to, especially not in a game.
You shot yourself in the foot, you didn't let yourself any options, I don't leave you any option. Plain and clear.
It's like when you're considered innocent until proven guilty. Does it make more sense now?
Besides, what if he carries weapons, don't you carry weapons? If he carries and you don't, you should respect him more. Lol. Please revise your concepts and your logic.
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Alice Cholmondeley
Christine.
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Posted - 2007.04.11 13:55:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Aldari Verve You can say that we will never defeat bob in the long run. Quit possibly that is true. You can take into account they have 2-3 titans with another being finished soon, That they have 10+ mommies. Also you can take into account that they have the cap fleet, resources, and finances to support an ongoing war far longer than that of any entity in the coalition. All of this may be true. It's not that fact that they are evil it's the arrogence, the blunt disrespect they have shown the rest of eve. The game is going toward the bigger is better aspect and supercaps (titans,ms) are the top dogs. The knowledge of what skills where needed to fly capitals was given to them prepatch. That knowledge allowed them to get the upperhand which allows them to keep the upperhand coupled with their battlestrategy.....divide and conquer.
The coalition attacked them in f-t losing 50+ dreads. You can say that we got raped but my question is this... please point me to the post,patch note, dev blog, gm announcement on public comms stating that the system limit was going to be 430 players in one system. Due to the fact that BOB yet again had inside knowledge was able to gain the upperhand. Many times during or just prior to battles and engagments ts would be DDOS attacked. Coincidence..hardly.
Since the coalition has quieted it attacks on the delve front. BoB members have been seen and reported in various areas. (next part isn't actual fact just observation). BNC are moving north to help MC finish D2...divided. DICE have moved toward tenerifis and the cap fleet was also reported in the area. They are attacking goons in the tenerifis/detorid area. Seems that RKK are the only entity left in the delve region aside from BOB pets. Delve if you don't know "BOB and pets don't fight in delve unless they have too." Good luck getting kills in that region. They run, log, hit the station, ss, cloak before you can get to their belt. There is the occasional mothership they throw at you KNOWING that you can't use any sort of EW on it and if can be out relatively safely.
BOB is going to be a tough nut to *****. It will take time, time isn't soemthing the coalition may or may not have, who says we can't try. Who says we can't unite to fight a hated enemy..a dev backed alliance. To me BOB is a retirement home for pvpers where t2 comes cheap and is the norm where you have your half npc, half conq, complex filled, npc rich, bistot and crokite belts and it all comes too easily. You just have ...divide and conquer and you can have all of that.
My corporation is fighting that despite so many thought we might join bob. It's a tough fight. Frustrating at the amount of cowardice and blobs we see but it's ok we've asked for all of it by entering the delve region and taking the fight to our enemy to learn he doesn't fight in his home space.
Say what you will about the coalition it has it's flaws yes but it also has it's purpose. If we suceed then no more super power. If we fail then bob see that the only people they have left to fight is themsleves and eventuall internal struggle will tear it apart.
Baseless accusations make people look retarded, especially if you write it up like you're a conspiracy theorist in real life. |

prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:25:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam You shot yourself in the foot, you didn't let yourself any options, I don't leave you any option. Plain and clear.
Uhm, you were the person not giving any options besides "spitting" and saying "hi" remember. The only reason i spoke of it was because you obviously think this game and possibly your life on this planet is all black and white. Thats why i put forth more questions, so maybe you'd see that your silly comparison doesn't fly in reality or even in this game.
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Besides, what if he carries weapons, don't you carry weapons? If he carries and you don't, you should respect him more. Lol. Please revise your concepts and your logic.
In reality, carrying a gun means you are a target for other people with guns (unlike the people without guns who are not targets since they pose no immediate threat).
In this game, if i'm in 0.0 space and a neutral inty starts approaching me, he's a target. I think you said you would consider that spitting at someone while I'd say that a nice case of self-defense.
I think you might be confusing not liking NBSI policies with not liking Bob.
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam It's like when you're considered innocent until proven guilty. Does it make more sense now?
I think what you're asking for is a free ride. -- .sig apathy ftw |

Guderian
Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:43:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Aldari Verve The coalition attacked them in f-t losing 50+ dreads. You can say that we got raped but my question is this... please point me to the post,patch note, dev blog, gm announcement on public comms stating that the system limit was going to be 430 players in one system. Due to the fact that BOB yet again had inside knowledge was able to gain the upperhand. Many times during or just prior to battles and engagments ts would be DDOS attacked. Coincidence..hardly.
Please, when the coalition attacked JV1V and killed the LV titan in production, did you guys know that after you had crashed the node, the jumpins/cyno-ins had priority over the ones logging into the game inside the system? On that observation I could argue, like you do about BOB above, that you have devs/GM's in your alliance, because you took advantage of that game mechanic.
Originally by: Aldari Verve Since the coalition has quieted it attacks on the delve front. BoB members have been seen and reported in various areas. (next part isn't actual fact just observation). BNC are moving north to help MC finish D2...divided. DICE have moved toward tenerifis and the cap fleet was also reported in the area. They are attacking goons in the tenerifis/detorid area. Seems that RKK are the only entity left in the delve region aside from BOB pets. Delve if you don't know "BOB and pets don't fight in delve unless they have too." Good luck getting kills in that region. They run, log, hit the station, ss, cloak before you can get to their belt. There is the occasional mothership they throw at you KNOWING that you can't use any sort of EW on it and if can be out relatively safely.
Where are you going with this paragraph? Nowhere? Good, because to me it looks an aweful like a pathetic whine because you couldn't keep up the preasure on BOB and they started counterattacks.
Originally by: Aldari Verve BOB is going to be a tough nut to *****. It will take time, time isn't soemthing the coalition may or may not have, who says we can't try. Who says we can't unite to fight a hated enemy..a dev backed alliance. To me BOB is a retirement home for pvpers where t2 comes cheap and is the norm where you have your half npc, half conq, complex filled, npc rich, bistot and crokite belts and it all comes too easily. You just have ...divide and conquer and you can have all of that.
Despite the accusation of BOB being devs, your coalition should get some credit for actually trying to attack BOB. Through out the history of EVE, it has been discussed several times on these forums that 'someone' should 'take down' BOB, you get points for actually trying.
Originally by: Aldari Verve My corporation is fighting that despite so many thought we might join bob. It's a tough fight. Frustrating at the amount of cowardice and blobs we see but it's ok we've asked for all of it by entering the delve region and taking the fight to our enemy to learn he doesn't fight in his home space.
'cowardice' and 'blobs' are hardly words GS (or the coalition) should utter in public, as your entire strategy is based on numbers.
In general your entire post, Aldari Verve, sounds like one big whine and contains alot of baseless accusations. I once had great respect for BOS dating back to the CA days (the real CA I might add), but your actions and posts on the forums are greatly reducing that.
"Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lie beyond." |

Dionisius
Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.04.11 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: prsr
Originally by: Aldari Verve It's not that fact that they are evil it's the arrogence, the blunt disrespect they have shown the rest of eve.
Oh please, grow up. Respect isn't something you are entitled to, especially not in a game. This argument just sounds a whole lot like whining to me. Speaking of blunt disrespect, i've never seen Bob ceo's mock players that died IRL for kicks, how about your alliance leaders?
Originally by: Aldari Verve
The knowledge of what skills where needed to fly capitals was given to them prepatch. That knowledge allowed them to get the upperhand ...
Uhm, plenty of people knew what skills were likely to be required, it was discussed on this very forum, in threads with devs in 'm even if i remember correctly. Either you show proof or this is forum coalition fairytale #213123.
Originally by: Aldari Verve The coalition attacked them in f-t losing 50+ dreads. You can say that we got raped but my question is this... please point me to the post,patch note, dev blog, gm announcement on public comms stating that the system limit was going to be 430 players in one system. Due to the fact that BOB yet again had inside knowledge was able to gain the upperhand.
Forum coalition fairytale #213124.
Originally by: Aldari Verve Many times during or just prior to battles and engagments ts would be DDOS attacked. Coincidence..hardly.
Uhuh, and no packet logs again i'm sure. I wonder what kind of excuses people make up when TS fails when there's no big fleets around. Or do they skip the whole "a hacker did it" line of reasoning at that point?
Originally by: Aldari Verve Who says we can't unite to fight a hated enemy..a dev backed alliance.
Nobody, but you could try showing some class for once. This utterly dumb and misinformed fingerpointing at bob as if they are the only alliance with devs/gm's in it is getting really really old and is just as childish as the first time people started it.
Actually you miss 2 important things, this is a game yes but with real people playing it, so we all deserve and must respect others.
Point number 2, in one of the ASCN threads if i am not mistaken a BoB member actually wrote something about considering using DOS atacks on other players.
Oh another thing, BoB may have a good insight on game mechanics from their booted out dev friend but, that is not something that can actually be considered bad or cheating, and here i am simply guessing, the guy tought game mechanics and people learned them period.
It may sound unfair but in that part CCP should try to compile some sort of manual or people should read better the available info. _______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.11 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dionisius
Actually you miss 2 important things, this is a game yes but with real people playing it, so we all deserve and must respect others.
Well, maybe this is politically incorrect but I tend to wait and see if people deserve my respect instead of automatically extending it to them. This goes in-game but IRL too.
Originally by: Dionisius
Point number 2, in one of the ASCN threads if i am not mistaken a BoB member actually wrote something about considering using DOS atacks on other players.
Maybe, maybe not. I've seen gangs with fc's that actually ordered to convo-spam their enemies, technically that is considered ddos'ing as well.
Originally by: Dionisius Oh another thing, BoB may have a good insight on game mechanics from their booted out dev friend but, that is not something that can actually be considered bad or cheating, and here i am simply guessing, the guy tought game mechanics and people learned them period.
From what do you gather that bob were taught more about game-mechanics then anyone else would be able to figure out?
Originally by: Dionisius
It may sound unfair but in that part CCP should try to compile some sort of manual or people should read better the available info.
Well, sure, that would help some people, and scare away others because it would be rather big. There's a lot of things in Eve you have to try to see how well or bad it works. A big part of the fun is finding out. -- .sig apathy ftw |

Haffrage
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.11 17:40:00 -
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At the expense of sounding crude, you all could've just said "I put on my robe and tinfoil hat."  -----
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.11 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Aldari Verve The coalition attacked them in f-t losing 50+ dreads. You can say that we got raped but my question is this... please point me to the post,patch note, dev blog, gm announcement on public comms stating that the system limit was going to be 430 players in one system. Due to the fact that BOB yet again had inside knowledge was able to gain the upperhand.
It's quite probably you're just trolling and will never check back for the answer, but nonetheless....
The limit was 700. And it's so incredibly secret that it was known ahead of time only to the CEO of CCP, the Secretary-General of the United Nations, and people who read a dev blog posted 8 months ago. As I said, very, VERY secret, that.
--P
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:19:00 -
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Short reply out of boredom: BoB wanted that war and now they got it. Both sides got, what they wanted, so no need to convince someone to stop this war, because BoB isn't evil or so I guess. ^^ ___________ Muuuhhh !!! |
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Atreus Minmatarius
Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:31:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Pilk
The limit was 700.
ok, then how about you explain (or throw some guesses my way) as to why we were not able to get in the system (both through gates and titan)
thx
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Vuk Kinbote
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Karunel To those saying "why fight alongside BoB if you want a challenge" you have to keep in mind that the bandwagon eventually became so BIG that joining the Coallition seemed actually like joining the winning side.
Thus, joining BoB's became quite an interesting challenge, trying to defy and stop "The *****Train".
See, your propaganda worked all too well for your own interest! 
I'm hearing some rationalization here, Karunel. I don't doubt your sincerity, but you might want to examine your motivation more deeply.
An unexamined life isn't worth living, as Dr. Johnson said. Or was it Augustine? But I guess they never flew a starship.
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Empyre
Domestic Reform
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Aldari Verve You can say that we will never defeat bob in the long run. Quit possibly that is true. You can take into account they have 2-3 titans with another being finished soon, That they have 10+ mommies. Also you can take into account that they have the cap fleet, resources, and finances to support an ongoing war far longer than that of any entity in the coalition. All of this may be true. It's not that fact that they are evil it's the arrogence, the blunt disrespect they have shown the rest of eve. The game is going toward the bigger is better aspect and supercaps (titans,ms) are the top dogs. The knowledge of what skills where needed to fly capitals was given to them prepatch. That knowledge allowed them to get the upperhand which allows them to keep the upperhand coupled with their battlestrategy.....divide and conquer.
goons, nor almost any coalition entity for that matter, has any right to call bob arrogant and disrespectful. that pretty much defines the coalition vision.. no one buys that evil bob sh|t anymore as the truth has been speaking for itself.
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Blake Abadon
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Posted - 2007.04.11 20:19:00 -
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The devil always tries to make himself a god. he is a master of illusion. Bob by is evil, thats is a fact.
tbh i was a bit of a fan of bob, but this changed a lot when i heard about the cheating stuff. you cannot measure the value of cheating that happend in the past. Sometimes a Tech2 Miners BPO has more value than other times. they lost their reputation to the whole eve comunity imo when this happend. since that time i see less smack talk on the eve forums from bob.
bob has many corp theifes, backstabbers and lots of other types of "scum" in there corps. its not only their pilots who do such lame things, they do stuff like that on an alliance level. that is the fundament of what bob is build. they do dirty politics ( propagande, lies, almost just like real politics) and are far far away of not beeing evil. Only good act would be if they disband. But this on the other side would have and bad sideeffect to the duality of the galaxy. so if you discribe them as agressive, it would not fit them very well. this word is a bit to polite to describe bob.
i think this is my first post on eve forums, and i am playing eve for almost 3 years now. i remember when i went for a 1vs1 with some bob guy and got ganked by 5 bob. Hell i even frapsed it. That single incident and they way their leaders were handling it was proof enogh for me that that are fighting with no honor. Band of brother when the word of honor means nothing to them.
Evev their fighting tactis are not very much like pvp. They always try to blob or camp you to death with their titans. i guess the good old time of fighting with a pistol and a sword are ever. When i was in Celestial Apocalypse we were always fighting outnumbered, even against bob and most of the time we won.
so i am not making them an evil alliance, they are an evil alliance which is good for the duality of the galaxy. i wonder how the galaxy would look like when bob is gone. i am sure that this day will come and then there will be anarchy and chaos. |

Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.04.11 20:51:00 -
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Two words to the poster about me before he gets pwned by the no-ticker mod squad:
The Mittani
MP
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Amun Krul
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Posted - 2007.04.11 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Blake Abadon The devil always tries to make himself a god. he is a master of illusion. Bob by is evil, thats is a fact.
tbh i was a bit of a fan of bob, but this changed a lot when i heard about the cheating stuff. you cannot measure the value of cheating that happend in the past. Sometimes a Tech2 Miners BPO has more value than other times. they lost their reputation to the whole eve comunity imo when this happend. since that time i see less smack talk on the eve forums from bob.
bob has many corp theifes, backstabbers and lots of other types of "scum" in there corps. its not only their pilots who do such lame things, they do stuff like that on an alliance level. that is the fundament of what bob is build. they do dirty politics ( propagande, lies, almost just like real politics) and are far far away of not beeing evil. Only good act would be if they disband. But this on the other side would have and bad sideeffect to the duality of the galaxy. so if you discribe them as agressive, it would not fit them very well. this word is a bit to polite to describe bob.
i think this is my first post on eve forums, and i am playing eve for almost 3 years now. i remember when i went for a 1vs1 with some bob guy and got ganked by 5 bob. Hell i even frapsed it. That single incident and they way their leaders were handling it was proof enogh for me that that are fighting with no honor. Band of brother when the word of honor means nothing to them.
Evev their fighting tactis are not very much like pvp. They always try to blob or camp you to death with their titans. i guess the good old time of fighting with a pistol and a sword are ever. When i was in Celestial Apocalypse we were always fighting outnumbered, even against bob and most of the time we won.
so i am not making them an evil alliance, they are an evil alliance which is good for the duality of the galaxy. i wonder how the galaxy would look like when bob is gone. i am sure that this day will come and then there will be anarchy and chaos.
Tin foil is for the hats, not for smoking through.
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Dionisius
Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.04.11 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: prsr
Maybe, maybe not. I've seen gangs with fc's that actually ordered to convo-spam their enemies, technically that is considered ddos'ing as well.
I know that convo-spam for fact, some Xelas members had the bad habit of spaming convos previous to atacking people in gang i participated, myself included.
Still it is a bit lame immo, but who am i to define to others what is lame and what isn't?
Originally by: prsr From what do you gather that bob were taught more about game-mechanics then anyone else would be able to figure out?
Well as i say i was guessing, they had someone in a good position to explain them some more confusion features of the game so it would be natural if the person did explained them or corrected them on some mechanics that people didn't understood.
Perfectly natural i believe i would do the same thing.
Originally by: prsr Well, sure, that would help some people, and scare away others because it would be rather big. There's a lot of things in Eve you have to try to see how well or bad it works. A big part of the fun is finding out.
Well i agree, some people are lazy, some don't care, some don't even try to discover and learn new stuff at all, same applys in EvE, some of the fun in this game is finding out new stuff.
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What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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Reto
The Last Resort
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Posted - 2007.04.11 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Uhmari personally i think you are all to stupid to beat bo. *sinp* Please do not troll - Kreul
Change your approach, your doom approaches.
-uhmari
*note* op was orginaly in corp when topic was posted - not considered alt post - hutch
uhmari thanks for ur post. we from the eve forum community are always looking for bright and interested ppl like u. also we want u to thank u for ur trust in bob alliance therefore we endorse ur move giving explicit advice to the coalition playerbase to cease fire and give up without any serious or remoteley logical reasons. we however from the eve forum community love the drama and therefore will still be interested in a all out war, be it ingame or on these boards. we hope we dont hurt ur feelings not agreeing with u or ur feverish opinion.
regards reto
Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.11 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Atreus Minmatarius
Originally by: Pilk
The limit was 700.
ok, then how about you explain (or throw some guesses my way) as to why we were not able to get in the system (both through gates and titan)
thx
please explain how nobody but you seems to think it was less than 700?
see here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=499356
Quote: How's that saying go? something about a pot calling a kettle black.... but the kettle getting the last laugh because it was banging the pot's sister? Yeah, that sounds right.
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paracidic
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.12 01:31:00 -
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Steel Rat and Axe,
I remember the OP during the ill-fated siege of Tcag/Tpar. He was about 3 days into corp(not CoRM) and allaince and was constantly asking Who FC's were, where cov ops were placed etc etc etc. He argued and voiced his opinion over every decision. It got so bad that CoRM as a group muted him and never listened or responded to anything he had to say.
So to Axiom and SR I say that CoRM continues to extend it's feelings of respect and friendship knowing full well that every corp has it's bad apple, After all I am CoRM's. :)
I love the crayon drawing, to me it won eve for today.
To all the armchair quaterbacks discussing where ascn was and who it attacked and allied with I only have one thing to say.
ASCN RIP.
Let it rest ffs. 
PARA ***********************************************
How could they know what we are going to do? We have no idea what we are going to do. |
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Blue Stratos
Amarr Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.12 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Uhmari LOL
It took me a moment to place you but i remeber you now
Uhmari is infact lil dirtbeard, how i know this is simple, both of them where in my old ceos corp and Uhmari admitted that Lil Dirtbeard was his alt, and actually now i think about it
You are alpha0mega, who is a in game scam artist
All of these chars specialise in joining corps and causing as much trouble as possible, robbing the corp and podding people
You need to get a clue
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait think the problem is found. last startup now.
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Atreus Minmatarius
Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.12 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Atreus Minmatarius
Originally by: Pilk
The limit was 700.
ok, then how about you explain (or throw some guesses my way) as to why we were not able to get in the system (both through gates and titan)
thx
please explain how nobody but you seems to think it was less than 700?
see here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=499356
see what exactly in this thread? i'm not going to read 10 pages don't have the time. will you be nice enough to answer (or try and give some educated gues) to why we were not able to jump in...
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.12 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Atreus Minmatarius
see what exactly in this thread? i'm not going to read 10 pages don't have the time.
You'd see a whole lot of tinfoilhattery from people claiming that bob and allies knew about a supposed hard limit of 700ish people in one system. Thats why your 430 number sounds like it came out of thin air.
Originally by: Atreus Minmatarius will you be nice enough to answer (or try and give some educated gues) to why we were not able to jump in...
Because the node couldn't handle it dummy. Nothing new about it. LV had problems jump bridging into a busy system with high local count months earlier in 1v-, other alliances have reported the same issue, it's not like it's some kind of secret. A jump bridge is plagued by the exact same problems as the normal gates. I was in a system next to f-t during the capital carnage and spent over 30 minutes in limbo trying to get into f-t. -- .sig apathy ftw |

31i73
BGG Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2007.04.12 11:30:00 -
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There was a post like this earlier, some random BoD alt asking why oh why coalition still attacks, pwease no more..
The way I see this: Most people just want to have those cheaters out of the game. You can always read about their latest cheatings from a certain forum that is not allowed to be linked here.
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elven serpent
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Posted - 2007.04.12 11:33:00 -
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bob are simply pvp`ers? i`ll take this oportunity to quote a bob member from local channel many months ago. `bob`s objective is to prevent anyone other than bob or bob slaves from inhabiting 0.0 space` to me this smacks of dictatorship. also has bob thought about the long term effects of this(should they ever succeed) upon both markets and overall subscriptions. this whole thread seems to have been started by the bob propaganda machine wich most people know to be just that-propaganda. i believe people are now fighting for a just cause,that being the right to exist in 0.0 space without having to subserviant to another organization.this is my humble 2 pence worth and i wish the best of luck to the coalition.(doubtfull that bob aren`t feeling the effects of their efforts)
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Callthetruth
Caldari Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.04.12 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: elven serpent bob are simply pvp`ers? i`ll take this oportunity to quote a bob member from local channel many months ago. `bob`s objective is to prevent anyone other than bob or bob slaves from inhabiting 0.0 space` to me this smacks of dictatorship. also has bob thought about the long term effects of this(should they ever succeed) upon both markets and overall subscriptions. this whole thread seems to have been started by the bob propaganda machine wich most people know to be just that-propaganda. i believe people are now fighting for a just cause,that being the right to exist in 0.0 space without having to subserviant to another organization.this is my humble 2 pence worth and i wish the best of luck to the coalition.(doubtfull that bob aren`t feeling the effects of their efforts)
the devs have already stated if bob becomes to powerful thigns can be done to rebalance the power in eve. Perhaps putting devs in titans in d2 etc or other subtle help the power of the galaxy needs to be balanced to keep everyone playing its one grand opera
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Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.12 12:36:00 -
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Accusations of BOB cheating, exploiting & degrading this game are getting rather tiresome. All the major alliances have & will do what they feel needs to be done to maintain themselves as major powers. They have too much isk, time & prestiege invested into their 0.0 holdings to just give it up for the sake of "good fights".
I dont see RA/D2/Goons etc simply bowing out & gracefully saying goodnight in the hypothetical situation of their being pushed towards defeat. Or rather i dont see certain members of said alliances resorting on their own accord to such actions, & then promptly seeing that labelled as their alliances evil doings by the CAOD community.
All the major alliances, i expect, have members who genuinely have nothing better in rl then EVE; Others are "super kewl hackers" etc: Its nothing specific to BoB, & consequently its unfair to acuse BoB as the only evil devhaxing alliance. Not that that wont stop the cries.
Oh & finally to the person who said "BOB is by evil, that is fact". Evil in itself is a subjective opinion, & cannot be construed as fact.
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DANGEROUS
Omega Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.12 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Uhmari I was like you, Long ago. I sought to fight bob, because they were a challange, and they still are.
Why do you insist on fighting them? why do you try to kill those who are stronger then you? You claim they are tyrant, They are no such thing, They are just pvpers, doing what they like, Pvp. Stop making them out to be a evil force, they are just another alliance, agressive, and well organized.
your so fixed on beating bob, and yet keep losing, Ever stop to think about why that is so? -- - sorry to cut your post here - - - but the answer is SIMPLE
BoD - are assisted by CCP!!!
THATS why they win - (when they do)
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Cyllaina
Gallente Orion Ore International Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.12 12:46:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=504720
This post holds all the information you'll ever need on Uhmari.
I believe he's joined up with Damage INC. now, I guess I gotta go play " concerned for the quality of their member base " and give someone a convo.
Just take a look at the guys employment history, he has nothing to his name. He gets off on causing grief to people in this game.
His opinion on BoB and the Coalition have no logical basis, no solid facts, not a single credible item went into the production of such an " opinion " as was posted.
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31i73
BGG Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2007.04.12 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche Accusations of BOB cheating, exploiting & degrading this game are getting rather tiresome.
Nobody is accusing them. That would imply that its uncertain if they did it or not. And we know they do, did and will. Its been even in official CCP news. And yes its very frustrating, thus the counter-reaction which is the will to remove them.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.12 13:33:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche Accusations of BOB cheating, exploiting & degrading this game are getting rather tiresome.
Tiresome is irrelevant. It's true and stands as the biggest and most valid reason ever to fight anyone. They destroyed the game and the faith alot of people had in it anyway. Or some of them did anyway, the rest who are still there obviously don't care and/or were silent accomplices, which is their and your choice. 
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D1ck Jones
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.12 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Aldari Verve buncha crap
Hey smart guy, did you know the skills (advanced spaceship command +advanced weapon upgrade + ALL capital skills) weren't out until the capital bpo's came out? Yes ebil bob pilotshad the uber intel to train battleship lvl5, spaceship command lvl5 and large racial turrent lvl5.
Please explain.
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Mangus Thermopyle
Chosen Path Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.12 13:42:00 -
[183]
I wonder when the cryalition will put the F-T loss behind them. The constant whine and crying from them is starting to become tiresome. Its even worse than ASCN when they where losing against BoB.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.12 13:49:00 -
[184]
Edited by: Fred0 on 12/04/2007 13:49:49
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I wonder when the cryalition will put the F-T loss behind them. The constant whine and crying from them is starting to become tiresome. Its even worse than ASCN when they where losing against BoB.
With that corp ticker that's a pretty hilarious statement. Chosen Path since before you merged in F-E has only been good at one thing, and that's crying on forums and loosing badly. How many regions/alliances is it so far?
EDIT: And besides, this wasn't about F-T was it? Topic derailment? 
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Ione Hunt
Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.04.12 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I wonder when the cryalition will put the F-T loss behind them. The constant whine and crying from them is starting to become tiresome. Its even worse than ASCN when they where losing against BoB.
Reminds me a bit of the time when LV lost their baby titan   _______________
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Renotz
Gallente Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.12 14:05:00 -
[186]
I like pancakes.
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Angor
Minmatar The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.12 14:56:00 -
[187]
Yeah everybody used to hate bob but things have/are changing.
a) Personally... the "coalition" has removed me from where i live twice now in quick succession, once in Immensea when LV started to crumble and once in the new reigons where everybody wanted us out for fear of us being a "bob attack launching stage" when really we had no real ties to this war. But now we're in the thick of it, although its pretty peaceful here atm. To be honest im glad im fighting on the side of bob after half of eve takes your home twice, there is really very little choice left is the?
b) Bob used to forum w***e, brag and be disrespectful... but not anymore, probably orders but they make you guys look like idiots by not replying to mindless babble flamer posts which once bob was famous for. This makes them seem more cool and mysterious for those who didnt see bob forum w***ing before the war....
c) Its fun to be on the underdogs side, your garanteed plently of PvP and a chance to stop the "unstoppable runaway train" is an almost bigger challenge than defeating bob (which by the way you guys speak at times, is almost certian).
d) Being on a side that needs like x as many players to defeat is nout to be proud of.
Bob will be defeated one day, maybe this year maybe not but I doubt MC will be on the same side as bob when this happens.
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.04.12 15:21:00 -
[188]
Personally, I don't see bob being defeated or going anywhere anytime soon.
Sure, there are a ton of people fighting against them, but there are also a ton of people fighting alongside them.
This is all a load of fun and I hope it lasts for a very, very long time.
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Atreus Minmatarius
Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.12 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Angor brag and be disrespectful... but not anymore,
yes they do, they do it with alts and they're other chars in other corps... some alts form mysteripous "logistic" corps than noone had heard before got exposed by ppl looking into corp histroy and who created them and so on. usually some bob name came up along the way. There are also some of those threads with "deleted" as title. there was one recentrly where some random bob guy forgot to switch char then quickly deleted everything and 10 replyes of "post with you alt" followed before it was locked. I remember that one guy from LV that forgot to switch char like a week ago, talked **** about about his own alliance. Then we all laughed at him and he got kicked form the alliance.
So yeah everyone on both sides uses alts, don't be naive 
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.12 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: 31i73
Nobody is accusing them. That would imply that its uncertain if they did it or not. And we know they do, did and will. Its been even in official CCP news.
The official CCP news mentioned a dev abusing his powers to help his player character. Nowhere does it say bob did anything wrong. Thats just the tinfoilhatters and kugu fanbois who think bob was fully aware of the actions and the connection of one of their members to CCP even though no real evidence supports that point of view.
Originally by: 31i73 And yes its very frustrating, thus the counter-reaction which is the will to remove them.
Originally by: Fred0 Tiresome is irrelevant. It's true and stands as the biggest and most valid reason ever to fight anyone.
This is why the forum coalition won't kill bob by a long shot. If you want to motivate your peons to go and crush someone based on hearsay, lies and slander it will be very hard to keep going as more peons wise up and see through the insane propaganda.
In the meantime, some people are working hard to uncover more dev player accounts so they can make them public and force ccp to remove more of their employees characters from the game. I suppose some people don't care that someone else looses multiple accounts over 3 years old just because he took a job at CCP and *VOLUNTARILY* stepped back from alliance command way before people "uncovered" his change of career.
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.12 16:10:00 -
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Edited by: prsr on 12/04/2007 16:09:22
Originally by: Ione Hunt Reminds me a bit of the time when LV lost their baby titan  
LV people objected to CCP because GM's took a position about the lag, namely that nobody had any specific advantage because everyone had to deal with the lag. A lot of LV players complained because if one thing was obvious about the situation in JV1V it was that our attackers had a clear advantage jumping into the system while all LV defenders had to log in.
After a dev restarted the node about 8 times the LV and friends meatgrinder gatecamp was effectively dispersed and unable to log back in while people jumping in had considerably less trouble entering JV1V and proceeded to attack structures while nobody from LV could do anything.
That situation had nothing to do with whining, that particular event didn't have anything to do with LV wanting to get stuff back or complaining about the number of enemies like some trolls here try to make it sound. People were mad because CCP didn't acknowledge the real problem and ignored it thereby ensuring that this problem will come back again since nobody at CCP will fix a problem if they don't know it exists.
But please, keep comparing people that want to see this game improved to whiners, makes you look really smart.  -- .sig apathy ftw |

31i73
BGG Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2007.04.12 17:59:00 -
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to prsr: Sorry, but I have no "peons" I'm just explaining the situation to OP, thats what he asked.
Also this won't go away if you close your eyes and ears, its still there. No matter how much you want to believe its just "lies and slander".
Every bad word about them is categorically branded as tinfoilhattery, which is very funny. Especially when we have, again, official CCP news confirming these reports.
This is a so called public secret; Its forbidden to talk about all the "lucky events" and other "coincidents" BoD had in this forum, yet everyone knows what they are. Even more ppl know now thanks to that forum you mentioned.
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.04.12 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I wonder when the cryalition will put the F-T loss behind them. The constant whine and crying from them is starting to become tiresome. Its even worse than ASCN when they where losing against BoB.
Did you really post this?
I mean, really?
The irony is going to make my head explode. Where's my duct tape...
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General Windypops
Gallente Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.12 19:45:00 -
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I just find it amusing that Cryalitioneers have to keep harking back to what was actually a very limited incident with a Dev in BoB that has had absolutely no real bearing on the direction of the alliance whatsoever. It's interesting that this accusation is being thrown about more and more recently - it's almost as if they're trying to distract the viewing public from the fact that they're getting a spanking.
The unfortunate side-effect for them is that with all their bleating they're set themselves up for the most ALMIGHTY fall when inevitably a dev is exposed in their ranks.
They really should think more calmly about these matters.
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31i73
BGG Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2007.04.12 20:17:00 -
[195]
Originally by: General Windypops I just find it amusing that Cryalitioneers have to keep harking back to what was actually a very limited incident with a Dev in BoB that has had absolutely no real bearing on the direction of the alliance whatsoever.
Hey, you can't really say all those incidents are "limited", on any scale.
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.12 20:34:00 -
[196]
Edited by: prsr on 12/04/2007 20:33:17
Originally by: 31i73 Hey, you can't really say all those incidents are "limited", on any scale.
You try to postulate there are official newsitems which claim that some alliance did something wrong, or "cheated".
They do not exist.
You get labelled tinfoilhatter.
You deny the label and try to extend your accusations without adressing previous errors in your statements.
Eve-community sighs and demands new entertainment.
Now go and rob some other dev/gm from his normal paid account(s). Thats what you lot seem to enjoy. -- .sig apathy ftw |

General Windypops
Gallente Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.12 21:02:00 -
[197]
Originally by: 31i73
Originally by: General Windypops I just find it amusing that Cryalitioneers have to keep harking back to what was actually a very limited incident with a Dev in BoB that has had absolutely no real bearing on the direction of the alliance whatsoever.
Hey, you can't really say all those incidents are "limited", on any scale.
Would you care to explain exactly what the impact was then? Because I really don't see it. Just because you keep churning this out whenever you feel threatened. And tbh, it was of limited impact and was dealt with. Anyone would think you were simply trying to smear BoB's name without any real substance.
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Atreus Minmatarius
Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.12 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: Atreus Minmatarius on 12/04/2007 21:03:25
Originally by: prsr
Eve-community sighs and demands new entertainment.
oh there is lots of entertainment. head over to the forums we do not mention and see what DBPreacher says about your alliance. I loled, it was quite entertaining
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.12 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Atreus Minmatarius oh there is lots of entertainment. head over to the forums we do not mention and see what DBPreacher says about your alliance. I loled, it was quite entertaining
Yes, i can imagine the entertainment value over there. I know i laughed my ass of when he found another player he could remove from the game by exposing his affiliation to CCP.
Yea, those were good times.  -- .sig apathy ftw |

31i73
BGG Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2007.04.12 22:43:00 -
[200]
Originally by: prsr
Now go and rob some other dev/gm from his normal paid account(s). Thats what you lot seem to enjoy.
ooh, you just don't get it. I don't enjoy hearing dev/gm lose their pure gaming account, thats just bad for all. The point is, we saw a LOT of dirt on BoD leaked to public, and how do they respond? "its all a lie" .. right? Then we get confirmation that at least that one part wasn't. That makes them quilty as well, because they had the same knowledge we do now, and did nothing but exploit it.
And you wanted more news on BoD latest, well, like I said, don't close your eyes and ears, and you can see plenty. This is one you apparently missed:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=501521&page=1#1
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.13 07:10:00 -
[201]
Originally by: 31i73
And you wanted more news on BoD latest, well, like I said, don't close your eyes and ears, and you can see plenty. This is one you apparently missed:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=501521&page=1#1
Lol, what is this supposed to mean?
You do know there were 8/10 complexes that had the same problem and were never reported for over 6 months by a certain alliance that is the capital backbone of the forum coalition in the south right?
The post isn't even even about Bob, it's about Fix, reporting the bug themselves. How confused you must be.  -- .sig apathy ftw |

31i73
BGG Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2007.04.13 08:24:00 -
[202]
Originally by: prsr
Yea, it sound exciting like that, the truth is nobody can verify those "leaked" texts to be real and unaltered and frankly the person publishing isn't all that trustworthy.
I agree, the txts couldn't be confirmed at first. And when CCP confirmed the finds he made about the bpos were real, it means He couldn't have been making all this stuff up. He knew the exact bpo names even. At first, when speaking about the bpo scandal, even that branded you "tinfoily". Now its all in the open, and all I can say is tinfoil in your face :D
Originally by: prsr
Lol, what is this supposed to mean?
Read more than just first post. It tells you that BoD knew and used the bug to their benefit, not bugreporting it. Props to DS having the integrity to report it. I'm very surprised someone in the axis of cheat would do this.
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Ione Hunt
Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.04.13 09:23:00 -
[203]
Originally by: 31i73
Originally by: prsr
Lol, what is this supposed to mean?
Read more than just first post. It tells you that BoD knew and used the bug to their benefit, not bugreporting it. Props to DS having the integrity to report it. I'm very surprised someone in the axis of cheat would do this.
Yup, DS gained a lot of respect there. Thanks dude, EVE would be a better place if all would play the game like that  _______________
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.13 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: 31i73 And when CCP confirmed the finds he made about the bpos were real, it means He couldn't have been making all this stuff up. He knew the exact bpo names even. At first, when speaking about the bpo scandal, even that branded you "tinfoily". Now its all in the open, and all I can say is tinfoil in your face :D
There is little logic in your arguments tbh. There are rather big differences between CCP's statements and the hilarious accusations of your friend. The bpo thing was handled by ccp already last summer remember. You might not have liked their way of rectifying it but then you probably also think that one more dictor bpo actually makes any impact on an alliance the size of Bob.
Originally by: 31i73 I'm very surprised someone in the axis of cheat would do this.
Ok, so someone who publicly reports a complex bug within a few weeks tops of it appearing is part of "the axis of cheats", yet people who exploit a complex bug for over half a year AND did anything they could to milk them are the capital backbone of your beloved forum coalition. Did i mention how CCP did nothing to rectify the *TRILLIONS* of isk that were wrongfully gained there? If there's been any cheating going on in this game that actually had an impact on the map it sure wasn't Bob.
I'm not even going into the single biggest EULA violation ever in this game by a certain other alliance in your precious forum coaltion where they modified their clients to get an edge during combat. Guess what, they didn't get banned either.
Grow up, get over your bob fixation and fight them because they are worthy adversaries instead of trying to smear them with "cheating" when a dev working alone gives them t2 bpo's (like a lot of other veterans do when they leave!) without telling them how he got them and pretending that this incident is anything other then peanuts compared to other incidents which are well documented, just not by friend Kugu. -- .sig apathy ftw |

31i73
BGG Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2007.04.13 10:56:00 -
[205]
Originally by: prsr There are rather big differences between CCP's statements and the hilarious accusations of your friend.
I disagree. What CCP said and what Kugu said were very much same thing.
Originally by: prsr you probably also think that one more dictor bpo actually makes any impact on an alliance the size of Bob.
Soo, getting caught on cheating isn't bad if the cheater is powerful, and each of the details are small? Can't you see the failure in your logic here? Newsflash, details ARE small.
Originally by: prsr Ok, so someone who publicly reports a complex bug within a few weeks tops of it appearing is part of "the axis of cheats"
I said I was surprised to see that kind of integrity from that camp. You know what they say about sleeping with dogs and fleas? You side with BoD, ppl assume you like cheating, thats how it goes.
Originally by: prsr Did i mention how CCP did nothing to rectify the *TRILLIONS* of isk that were wrongfully gained there?
I can't say I know what exactly happened. I did hear many of them were banned. Were any BoD banned for abusing the complex? Noo. Was the profits from bpos aquired by cheating removed either? Ofc not. They are BoD, above rules. They can also shoot thru POS shields without getting banned, actually, they changed the rules when that happened, so that again, no BoD will get banned.
Originally by: prsr If there's been any cheating going on in this game that actually had an impact on the map it sure wasn't Bob.
That is where we just have to agree to disagree.
Originally by: prsr I'm not even going into the single biggest EULA violation ever in this game by a certain other alliance in your precious forum coaltion where they modified their clients to get an edge during combat. Guess what, they didn't get banned either.
Yeah, and lets also be blind to BoDs account sharing in cynonets and titans for example. Or revealing ppl's real name and address in ingame forums. BoD has immunity for bans there too.
Originally by: prsr Grow up, get over your bob fixation and fight them because they are worthy adversaries instead of trying to smear them with "cheating" when a dev working alone gives them t2 bpo's (like a lot of other veterans do when they leave!) without telling them how he got them and pretending that this incident is anything other then peanuts compared to other incidents which are well documented, just not by friend Kugu.
Oo, longest sentence evar.
I don't have to smear them, they do them all by themselves already. This incident is indeed peanuts compared to other things they do, and I know about them because they are well documented by Kugu. So don't try to hide behind "We didn't know, and the bpo is now gone, see?!" Thats not nearly all.
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Pesadel0
Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.04.13 11:19:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Atreus Minmatarius Edited by: Atreus Minmatarius on 12/04/2007 21:05:24
Originally by: prsr
Eve-community sighs and demands new entertainment.
oh there is lots of entertainment. head over to the forums we do not mention and see what DBPreacher says about your alliance. I loled, it was quite entertaining

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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.13 11:42:00 -
[207]
Originally by: 31i73 Soo, getting caught on cheating isn't bad if the cheater is powerful, and each of the details are small? Can't you see the failure in your logic here? Newsflash, details ARE small.
I'm saying the issue was resolved in a way that had minimal impact on the game at the time. It wasn't the best solution obviously, but then it wasn't in bobs control, nobody has even proven bob knew what went on, it was in CCP's control.
Originally by: 31i73 I said I was surprised to see that kind of integrity from that camp. You know what they say about sleeping with dogs and fleas? You side with BoD, ppl assume you like cheating, thats how it goes.
And thats why you are the tinfoilhatter. I know it's tempting to think this way, everytime you loose ships you can just blame it on cheating instead of improving your own operations.
Originally by: 31i73 They can also shoot thru POS shields without getting banned, actually, they changed the rules when that happened, so that again, no BoD will get banned.
Oh, thats just comedy gold. I advise you to use this argument a lot more. It made me chuckle. I'm guessing you were in Imperium and/or CA, they seemed to have that problem a lot.
Originally by: 31i73 Yeah, and lets also be blind to BoDs account sharing in cynonets and titans for example. Or revealing ppl's real name and address in ingame forums. BoD has immunity for bans there too.
Ohnoes, bob had a cynonet just like every other big alliance and corp uses. Give me a break. If anything, CCP needed to clarify their position (which they did) on account sharing. I don't see how posting and immediatly removing those details is such a big deal in light of the actions of your friend that provoked just such a response.
Originally by: 31i73 I don't have to smear them, they do them all by themselves already.
Ah, i see, thats why you are bringing in canard after canard in an effort escape the tinfoilhatter label. Dance some more monkey, dance!
Originally by: 31i73 This incident is indeed peanuts compared to other things they do, and I know about them because they are well documented by Kugu. So don't try to hide behind "We didn't know, and the bpo is now gone, see?!" Thats not nearly all.
Well, if it is so well documented then i'm sure Kugu wouldn't mind sharing his sources for what he publishes and how he made sure his evidence wasn't altered in transit or by himself.
Let me know when he does and maybe i'll be able to stop laughing when people say "thats not nearly all".  -- .sig apathy ftw |

31i73
BGG Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2007.04.13 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: prsr nobody has even proven bob knew what went on
How much more can you prove it? We have leaked BoD forums revealing this fact, yet they didn't know it themselves? Suure.
Originally by: prsr I know it's tempting to think this way, everytime you loose ships you can just blame it on cheating instead of improving your own operations.
Its not what you think. Not every time someone loses a ship to BoD its because of cheating. They know the game and are good opponents in that. But they also know the all the loopholes, and that is what makes others see red. Too many coincidents. Strange one-sided occurences and events..
Originally by: prsr
Originally by: 31i73 They can also shoot thru POS shields without getting banned, actually, they changed the rules when that happened, so that again, no BoD will get banned.
Oh, thats just comedy gold. I advise you to use this argument a lot more. It made me chuckle. I'm guessing you were in Imperium and/or CA, they seemed to have that problem a lot.
Sorry, I missed your point there. Care to elaborate? Everyone seemed to be pretty upset when BoD were caught redhanded about it. I didn't know you can do that. See the loophole part earlier.
Originally by: prsr Ohnoes, bob had a cynonet just like every other big alliance and corp uses. Give me a break. If anything, CCP needed to clarify their position (which they did) on account sharing. I don't see how posting and immediatly removing those details is such a big deal in light of the actions of your friend that provoked just such a response.
You started talking about EULA stuff, not me. So "give me a break" doesn't quite fit here 
Kugu got banned about the same thing, so again, not very equal treatment, is it?
Originally by: prsr Ah, i see, thats why you are bringing in canard after canard in an effort escape the tinfoilhatter label. Dance some more monkey, dance!
Run out of arguments, have we? I don't represent all of coalition, actually, I don't reprsent them at all. I'm just telling why I think BoD is being attacked, that is what the OP wanted to know. I don't understand why you fight it so desperately. Also you are in LV, (allied with Bod), which probably makes it harder for you to see why everyone else hates them.
Originally by: prsr Well, if it is so well documented then i'm sure Kugu wouldn't mind sharing his sources for what he publishes and how he made sure his evidence wasn't altered in transit or by himself.
You'd have to ask him. I'm guessing its not in his best intrests to reveal it tho. Besides, I think we covered the proving thing earlier.
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Cyllaina
Gallente Orion Ore International Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.13 12:50:00 -
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Please don't say you're answering the OP's question about Why we fight bob, this guy doesn't care, causing issues and arguments is what hes good at =p
I personally have no abnormal stance on BoB's current state, I just see em as red targets to shoot. It's just as I would see my own alliance if I would have ended up joining BoB instead of IAC.
Targets, anything more than that and 0.0 politics give me nightmares.
You have to know, that here on these forums, in these alliances, they arent real politians, theyre not real governments, they aren't professionals in any sense of the word when it comes to managing thousands of people.
Mistakes happen, I won't hold BoB or IAC or Coalition or Alliance responsible politcal wise, as I would president bush.
You either make it work or you don't. If you can't make it work one way, try another way, it's an endless cycle, the Coalition just needs to find the right way to band together efficently to fight the well-oiled war machine BoB has become.
I personally don't care if CCP was supporting BoB, hell, it's a freakin challenge,and i'm sure Captain Janeway didn't like the Idea of the borg upon first encounter either =p
A tougher fight is more entertaining that waltzing through and dominating.
Although sometimes I feel it would be rather pleasing for a short while.
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GTC CH
Minmatar BOOM - Gotcha
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Posted - 2007.04.13 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: GTC CH on 13/04/2007 13:27:26
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I wonder when the cryalition will put the F-T loss behind them. The constant whine and crying from them is starting to become tiresome. Its even worse than ASCN when they where losing against BoB.
Did you really post this?
I mean, really?
The irony is going to make my head explode. Where's my duct tape...
What? It's true, all you do as a coaltion is make stupid mistakes, **** up big time lose massive fleets, capital ships, 2 titans and you come here and samck like hell, make stupid threads and act like idiots, the alliance was ordered to try and refraint form posting and we do.
Every post you make is nothing but smack, u need to get a grip, all of the coaltion does, u sit here saying we runa nd god knwos what else but elts be honest, its all crap and you know it
Querious - You came, u lost alot, including capital ships and now ur gone and just send gank squads
Fountain - Again u triedm, lost your titan and failed to dislodge, corleum and xelas
Delve - you destroyed a POS you where duped into thinking there was a titan building and lost upwards of 50 dreads and 20 carriers if not more, thats not coun ting how badly u got owned in surrounding systems
Period basis - AAA tried to take mc space and failed and got dd by bob in a trap which they fell for
Your coaltion has achived nothing, all you do is gank and make stupid mistakes, you are impulsive, rash and order things done ebfore u think thru them
wts clue
And now, the alliance is coming to you in the north and your smack on here has incrased ten fold
Your like kids wjho have had the lolly stolen from them, it's disgracful
No doubt u will smack and flame me in your reply, but then u just provae im right
Thanks in advance
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Ione Hunt
Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.04.13 13:40:00 -
[211]
Originally by: prsr Ah, i see, thats why you are bringing in canard after canard in an effort escape the tinfoilhatter label. Dance some more monkey, dance!
Name calling...the cornerstone of an objective, rational discussion 
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Uhmari
Amarr Kenetic industrial Services
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Posted - 2007.04.13 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Uhmari on 13/04/2007 13:59:07 Edited by: Uhmari on 13/04/2007 13:57:53 Attention LV devie alt.
Quote: Would you care to explain exactly what the impact was then? Because I really don't see it. Just because you keep churning this out whenever you feel threatened. And tbh, it was of limited impact and was dealt with. Anyone would think you were simply trying to smear BoB's name without any real substance.
a) i am friends of bob, Atleast my view point to them is not hostile, I am uncertian of what they think of me, Some of them anyways.
b) what i said is true, but that is up to the gms to take care of it, I have contacted the community manager in reguards to bobs abuse.
c) LV got their alliance handed to them on a silver platter, so shut it you pet.
d) <3 you molle
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.13 15:14:00 -
[213]
Originally by: GTC CH Edited by: GTC CH on 13/04/2007 13:27:26
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I wonder when the cryalition will put the F-T loss behind them. The constant whine and crying from them is starting to become tiresome. Its even worse than ASCN when they where losing against BoB.
Did you really post this?
I mean, really?
The irony is going to make my head explode. Where's my duct tape...
What? It's true, all you do as a coaltion is make stupid mistakes, **** up big time lose massive fleets, capital ships, 2 titans and you come here and samck like hell, make stupid threads and act like idiots, the alliance was ordered to try and refraint form posting and we do.
Every post you make is nothing but smack, u need to get a grip, all of the coaltion does, u sit here saying we runa nd god knwos what else but elts be honest, its all crap and you know it
Querious - You came, u lost alot, including capital ships and now ur gone and just send gank squads
Fountain - Again u triedm, lost your titan and failed to dislodge, corleum and xelas
Delve - you destroyed a POS you where duped into thinking there was a titan building and lost upwards of 50 dreads and 20 carriers if not more, thats not coun ting how badly u got owned in surrounding systems
Period basis - AAA tried to take mc space and failed and got dd by bob in a trap which they fell for
Your coaltion has achived nothing, all you do is gank and make stupid mistakes, you are impulsive, rash and order things done ebfore u think thru them
wts clue
And now, the alliance is coming to you in the north and your smack on here has incrased ten fold
Your like kids wjho have had the lolly stolen from them, it's disgracful
No doubt u will smack and flame me in your reply, but then u just provae im right
Thanks in advance
lets not forget hwo this war started. BOb declared war on redswarm to save LV. LV lost its empire...
Coalition large objectives acomplished 1- Alliance 0
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |

Kaaii
Caldari Equilibrium LLC FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.13 16:12:00 -
[214]
Um, do you really presume to know why another alliance(not yours) does what ever they do?
just curious..
Trading 101 Kaaii-Net Research Labs
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Cyllaina
Gallente Orion Ore International Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.13 17:07:00 -
[215]
Uhmari, you're probably shoot on sight to 99% of the game community at this point, how can you even say you don't know how bob feels about you?
Do you expect them to like you because you got down on your knees and licked their toes?
Come on now...
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GTC CH
Minmatar BOOM - Gotcha
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Posted - 2007.04.13 17:18:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Originally by: GTC CH Edited by: GTC CH on 13/04/2007 13:27:26
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I wonder when the cryalition will put the F-T loss behind them. The constant whine and crying from them is starting to become tiresome. Its even worse than ASCN when they where losing against BoB.
Did you really post this?
I mean, really?
The irony is going to make my head explode. Where's my duct tape...
What? It's true, all you do as a coaltion is make stupid mistakes, **** up big time lose massive fleets, capital ships, 2 titans and you come here and samck like hell, make stupid threads and act like idiots, the alliance was ordered to try and refraint form posting and we do.
Every post you make is nothing but smack, u need to get a grip, all of the coaltion does, u sit here saying we runa nd god knwos what else but elts be honest, its all crap and you know it
Querious - You came, u lost alot, including capital ships and now ur gone and just send gank squads
Fountain - Again u triedm, lost your titan and failed to dislodge, corleum and xelas
Delve - you destroyed a POS you where duped into thinking there was a titan building and lost upwards of 50 dreads and 20 carriers if not more, thats not coun ting how badly u got owned in surrounding systems
Period basis - AAA tried to take mc space and failed and got dd by bob in a trap which they fell for
Your coaltion has achived nothing, all you do is gank and make stupid mistakes, you are impulsive, rash and order things done ebfore u think thru them
wts clue
And now, the alliance is coming to you in the north and your smack on here has incrased ten fold
Your like kids wjho have had the lolly stolen from them, it's disgracful
No doubt u will smack and flame me in your reply, but then u just provae im right
Thanks in advance
lets not forget hwo this war started. BOb declared war on redswarm to save LV. LV lost its empire...
Coalition large objectives acomplished 1- Alliance 0
LOL, bob made no attempt to stop Redswarm, the pet alliances of LV had been moved out of LV space once the war started and into BOB space, BOB/LV knew they couldnt stop REDSWARM from taking the space because LV, as it where had become full of miners n renters, no real fighting force, the Cap yard siege was designed ot keep it online long enuff for the second titan to be built, then lv would move to BOB space with two titans.
If you are that siomple minded and cant see whats really going on by using logic, i pity u
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Originally by: GTC CH Edited by: GTC CH on 13/04/2007 13:27:26
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I wonder when the cryalition will put the F-T loss behind them. The constant whine and crying from them is starting to become tiresome. Its even worse than ASCN when they where losing against BoB.
Did you really post this?
I mean, really?
The irony is going to make my head explode. Where's my duct tape...
What? It's true, all you do as a coaltion is make stupid mistakes, **** up big time lose massive fleets, capital ships, 2 titans and you come here and samck like hell, make stupid threads and act like idiots, the alliance was ordered to try and refraint form posting and we do.
Every post you make is nothing but smack, u need to get a grip, all of the coaltion does, u sit here saying we runa nd god knwos what else but elts be honest, its all crap and you know it
Querious - You came, u lost alot, including capital ships and now ur gone and just send gank squads
Fountain - Again u triedm, lost your titan and failed to dislodge, corleum and xelas
Delve - you destroyed a POS you where duped into thinking there was a titan building and lost upwards of 50 dreads and 20 carriers if not more, thats not coun ting how badly u got owned in surrounding systems
Period basis - AAA tried to take mc space and failed and got dd by bob in a trap which they fell for
Your coaltion has achived nothing, all you do is gank and make stupid mistakes, you are impulsive, rash and order things done ebfore u think thru them
wts clue
And now, the alliance is coming to you in the north and your smack on here has incrased ten fold
Your like kids wjho have had the lolly stolen from them, it's disgracful
No doubt u will smack and flame me in your reply, but then u just provae im right
Thanks in advance
I had no involvement in any of that, nor do I really give a toss about any of it. We as a corp even moved out of Fade months ago fully expecting a counter attack. We don't care.
All my corp cares about is playing this GAME, having fun, and laughing at people that take it this seriously.
WTS perspective.
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1Trav1
Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.04.13 18:37:00 -
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http://www.d2.justgotowned.com/
says it all 
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Dionisius
Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.04.13 20:17:00 -
[219]
Originally by: 1Trav1 http://www.d2.justgotowned.com/
says it all 
This is lame.  _______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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GTC CH
Minmatar BOOM - Gotcha
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Posted - 2007.04.13 23:37:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Dionisius
Originally by: 1Trav1 http://www.d2.justgotowned.com/
says it all 
This is lame. 
That coming from sumone in an alliance who stole another alliances name and jus switched the words rount and missed out a T
Irony
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.14 00:34:00 -
[221]
Originally by: Uhmari I was like you, Long ago. I sought to fight bob, because they were a challange, and they still are.
Why do you insist on fighting them? why do you try to kill those who are stronger then you? You claim they are tyrant, They are no such thing, They are just pvpers, doing what they like, Pvp. Stop making them out to be a evil force, they are just another alliance, agressive, and well organized.
your so fixed on beating bob, and yet keep losing, Ever stop to think about why that is so? you keep using the same approach, You unite many alliances to fight, But you are to arrogant and to stuborn to elect a single leader, EVEN bob has stated that if you did such, you could defeat them. Try something new, Or get off the bandwagon, Because your about to get wtf pwned.
I am loyal to the alliances i serve, If they are friendly or hostile to XYZ i dont care, But when i am corpless, and when i am not in an alliance, I choose my personal relationships; personally i think you are all to stupid to beat bo. *sinp* Please do not troll - Kreul
Change your approach, your doom approaches.
-uhmari
*note* op was orginaly in corp when topic was posted - not considered alt post - hutch
The Icelandic is strong in this post 
Quote: Whats becoming so obvious these days, is, in this game it's not what you know, it's who you know, how sad 
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batloard
Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.04.14 01:19:00 -
[222]
Period basis - AAA tried to take mc space and failed and got dd by bob in a trap which they fell for
removing MC was never the goal
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Rudy Metallo
G.H.O.S.T
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Posted - 2007.04.14 01:37:00 -
[223]
Edited by: Rudy Metallo on 14/04/2007 01:33:40
Originally by: Kaaii
Um, do you really presume to know why another alliance(not yours) does what ever they do?
just curious..
Why do you think BoB travelled across the entire map to face RAgoons claiming that they "were the largest threat to them at the time" [from the actual Molle post], even though at the time D2 was the obvious target for BoB?
BoB wanted two things: a) Revenge for Goons soiling what was left of their reputation (the dev scandal was originally posted on Goon boards) b) LV was dying and they figured that LV would help them out (aka provide meatshield) a bit against the block that was forming at the time.
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Aries Acheron
The Valour
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Posted - 2007.04.14 04:28:00 -
[224]
To Clarify: BoB is hardly a 'super omfg cheater'. Let's compare.
BoB has an illegal BPO (1 ship, and a bunch of ammo), spawned by a dev, then months later left in the corp hanger when the dev left. And apparently, self-reportd a complex bug after running it a few times.
A certain alliance I shall call 'Rouge Alliance' runs bugged Angel 8/10 complexes for months, which spawned a new end boss every 38 minutes instead of every 12 hours or whatever. They singlehandedly flood the entire market with Gist Items and are the reason Machariels are like 500 mil instead of 1.6 bil like Rattlesnakes. This is an alliance's policy, not a group of players. Not to mention various sightings of jetcan dumping with bookmarks for a while to generate lag during fights?
A certain other alliance possibly labeled 'Thug Swarm' ran a program to replace cache files in their games to see standings in local, before a feature was implemented. Not specifically exploiting, but it's very borderline. How about deploying Noobships in fleet battles? What's the legitimate use of a noobship in a fleetbattle aside from generating lag? Again, very borderline.
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BoB aren't saints. They're dirtier than most from their use of spies and metagaming. But the other two alliances against them have done some far filthier things by comparsion. ~~~
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nickky01
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.04.14 06:04:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Aries Acheron To Clarify: How about deploying Noobships in fleet battles? What's the legitimate use of a noobship in a fleetbattle aside from generating lag? Again, very borderline.
you really havn't lived until you've seen a shuttle in a fleet fight with fighters assigned. i kid you not.
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.14 06:09:00 -
[226]
Originally by: nickky01
Originally by: Aries Acheron To Clarify: How about deploying Noobships in fleet battles? What's the legitimate use of a noobship in a fleetbattle aside from generating lag? Again, very borderline.
you really havn't lived until you've seen a shuttle in a fleet fight with fighters assigned. i kid you not.
I've been reduced to battleshuttles with fighters twice to date. it is pretty funny 
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Aries Acheron
The Valour
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Posted - 2007.04.14 10:33:00 -
[227]
Originally by: nickky01
Originally by: Aries Acheron To Clarify: How about deploying Noobships in fleet battles? What's the legitimate use of a noobship in a fleetbattle aside from generating lag? Again, very borderline.
you really havn't lived until you've seen a shuttle in a fleet fight with fighters assigned. i kid you not.
I've seen that. Those are still stupid. An MWDing T1 frigate is better for the role and anyone can fly that. But an Ibis? If a 8000 isk shuttle is too much for you, stop playing Eve. ;) ~~~
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Aphotic Raven
Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.14 11:15:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Aries Acheron
Originally by: nickky01
Originally by: Aries Acheron To Clarify: How about deploying Noobships in fleet battles? What's the legitimate use of a noobship in a fleetbattle aside from generating lag? Again, very borderline.
you really havn't lived until you've seen a shuttle in a fleet fight with fighters assigned. i kid you not.
I've seen that. Those are still stupid. An MWDing T1 frigate is better for the role and anyone can fly that. But an Ibis? If a 8000 isk shuttle is too much for you, stop playing Eve. ;)
How many scramblers/webs can you fit on a shuttle again? oh right its 0 isnt it. Goons say every ship counts... and they make them count, they die constantly but are still succeeding and isk wise can do a lot of damage. They might outnumber you 50 to 10 but add up the isk and any good alliance's 10 ships will usually cost a lot more.
If you think bob, or anyone for that matter will not suck everything out of a bugged plex you are a little slow... they report the bugs when they leave the area or when an enemy takes the plex or the space around it...
Now please be quiet, the goons "potential sploit" with standings in local was a great idea and addition, and saved the server from having a few thousand goons all saving a few thousand bob/LV/pets into their address books... i still have hundreds of hostile contacts in my address book that havent been deleted yet...
Everyone wants to get ahead... and most will take pretty extreme measures to get there.
Originally by: Dr Cupid Let me tell you all that I'm really enjoying eve-beta, and can't wait for the real game to come out!
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sherbert lemon
Amarr Black Omega Security GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.04.14 11:46:00 -
[229]
Edited by: sherbert lemon on 14/04/2007 11:48:00 Edited by: sherbert lemon on 14/04/2007 11:44:07
Originally by: Uhmari Mr. Uhmari,
would you like to have one power control all, or many independent entities? Regards, VV for the time being, bob will conquer 0.0, Unless they change their ways and get organized. this is the only hope for the coalition, namely, to elect a single, Praetor if you will. Interestingly i use the word praetor, Because it is the coalition that refers to themselves as the "protectors of the weak, and of the people/players of eve" the word praetor derives from an ancient roman elite gard known as the praetorians, And their leader, Caesar, The praetor or "protector of the people".
TO answer your q, I think one alliance should rule no more then 10-15 constellations. i feel ccp should some now nerf it so that an alliance cannot control more then that, unless XYZ effects / requirements are met to expand that. ( namely the defeat of another alliance )
i feel that there is alot of space in eve, but not anuff for those new alliances, that want to get their "place in space" and i feel there is not anuff "balance" in all of 0.0 to be fair and say "all area's have xyz ores and xyz in ratting income" some regions are overly loaded in ores, and or ratting, while others are worthless ( syndicate ect ) for isk, which powers and fuels an alliance.
In short, I vote for many small alliances, but no alliance has the will to resolve to that, perhapse an law from the people should be made to not allow an alliance more then xyz systems, region ect, As a "player sanction".
Excuse the gammer, kind lf sleepy and upset, molle just yelled at me and i was being nice =/
Ok, sorry, im generally not this rude and i didnt read ure comment much past the bit when u said that alliances should only be allowed to rule XYZ.
Heres my response: waaawaaawaaaaaaaaaaa its not fair *cry* (btw, sorry if u changed what u were saying later on in your post, i just dont have muchos timeos to waste)
PS> c-c-c-c-c-coalition ftw
Edit: I made my money in Syndicate, and i'll challenge any of the people who say its crap.
Edit2: In your post which I have quoted you state that u prefer the small alliances and little masses of people. Re-take a look at the Coalition, its alliances are mostly smaller and "crapper" than BoB, then take alook at BoB 10-15 systems is good you say? and yet you are supporting an alliance that claims nearly 6 regions last time i checked, hmmmm, have i gone mad or do u need to rethink your arguement?
PPS> its probably me gone mad - it happens
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sherbert lemon
Amarr Black Omega Security GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.04.14 12:03:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Aries Acheron To Clarify: BoB is hardly a 'super omfg cheater'. Let's compare.
BoB has an illegal BPO (1 ship, and a bunch of ammo), spawned by a dev, then months later left in the corp hanger when the dev left. And apparently, self-reportd a complex bug after running it a few times.
A certain alliance I shall call 'Rouge Alliance' runs bugged Angel 8/10 complexes for months, which spawned a new end boss every 38 minutes instead of every 12 hours or whatever. They singlehandedly flood the entire market with Gist Items and are the reason Machariels are like 500 mil instead of 1.6 bil like Rattlesnakes. This is an alliance's policy, not a group of players. Not to mention various sightings of jetcan dumping with bookmarks for a while to generate lag during fights?
A certain other alliance possibly labeled 'Thug Swarm' ran a program to replace cache files in their games to see standings in local, before a feature was implemented. Not specifically exploiting, but it's very borderline. How about deploying Noobships in fleet battles? What's the legitimate use of a noobship in a fleetbattle aside from generating lag? Again, very borderline.
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BoB aren't saints. They're dirtier than most from their use of spies and metagaming. But the other two alliances against them have done some far filthier things by comparsion.
Lets just say some of those "Thug Swarm" pilots are low-sp, kk? Right - This Thug Swarms orginal recruiting propaganda was fun from day 1. Ok say most of their members can fly a cruiser or a BC atleast. It is not fun losing a ship youve worked for for maybe 1month in a large laggy battle where you wont get much done since you wont be able to move around and you'll have a long lock time. However if you go in a "rookie" ship (i dont like the word noob - makes one assume immediate power over someone you've never met) you have a quick lock time, slots to get on kill mails and make cool effects in the sky that look pretty (yes I do get excited by watching the webifier round a ship) and also some speed, aswell as a bit of dmg - if not much. And you dont lose anything youve worked long hours for if you die. rookieships and frigs can be very fun to fly at the right situation, just perhaps because you havent done pvp at the right time in your eve career to know it does not mean they aren't useful.
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Aries Acheron
The Valour
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Posted - 2007.04.14 21:38:00 -
[231]
Originally by: sherbert lemon
Originally by: Aries Acheron To Clarify: BoB is hardly a 'super omfg cheater'. Let's compare.
BoB has an illegal BPO (1 ship, and a bunch of ammo), spawned by a dev, then months later left in the corp hanger when the dev left. And apparently, self-reportd a complex bug after running it a few times.
A certain alliance I shall call 'Rouge Alliance' runs bugged Angel 8/10 complexes for months, which spawned a new end boss every 38 minutes instead of every 12 hours or whatever. They singlehandedly flood the entire market with Gist Items and are the reason Machariels are like 500 mil instead of 1.6 bil like Rattlesnakes. This is an alliance's policy, not a group of players. Not to mention various sightings of jetcan dumping with bookmarks for a while to generate lag during fights?
A certain other alliance possibly labeled 'Thug Swarm' ran a program to replace cache files in their games to see standings in local, before a feature was implemented. Not specifically exploiting, but it's very borderline. How about deploying Noobships in fleet battles? What's the legitimate use of a noobship in a fleetbattle aside from generating lag? Again, very borderline.
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BoB aren't saints. They're dirtier than most from their use of spies and metagaming. But the other two alliances against them have done some far filthier things by comparsion.
Lets just say some of those "Thug Swarm" pilots are low-sp, kk? Right - This Thug Swarms orginal recruiting propaganda was fun from day 1. Ok say most of their members can fly a cruiser or a BC atleast. It is not fun losing a ship youve worked for for maybe 1month in a large laggy battle where you wont get much done since you wont be able to move around and you'll have a long lock time. However if you go in a "rookie" ship (i dont like the word noob - makes one assume immediate power over someone you've never met) you have a quick lock time, slots to get on kill mails and make cool effects in the sky that look pretty (yes I do get excited by watching the webifier round a ship) and also some speed, aswell as a bit of dmg - if not much. And you dont lose anything youve worked long hours for if you die. rookieships and frigs can be very fun to fly at the right situation, just perhaps because you havent done pvp at the right time in your eve career to know it does not mean they aren't useful.
Note.. how I said noobship. Rookie ship, whatever. Have you noticed that you can hop into a T1 frigate immediately after starting the game? If your alliance can't afford a goddamn 200k Kestrel or Rifter... or 40k Condor, something is wrong. Exaggerate much? No alliance newbie works 'a month' to earn a Tech 1 frigate.
Stop trying to defend the use of a civilian laser armed ship as anything but a lag generator. Frigate PVP is valid, sure. But not Ibis PVP. I can't believe you're actually trying to chastise me for suggesting that. ~~~
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Kaylana Syi
The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.14 22:05:00 -
[232]
Originally by: c0rn1 Edited by: c0rn1 on 10/04/2007 11:08:54
Originally by: nico wurz250 When BoB are so strong, why they run if they see a D2 frig?
Without terror and mythologie they are nothing. Without 100s of capitals they loose. Without internal knowledge they loose.
The Coalition has the balls to fight against BoB, against that what is behind the name BoB. Because - WE LOVE EvE.
And, are winning, donŠt you?
know what the difference is between BoB and you?
Even with terror and mythologie you are nothing. Even with 100s of capitals you lose. Even with internal knowledge you lose.
You don't fight for Eve, you fight for yourselves. That's all what I got from d2 so far on these forums here or on the german forums. You're trying to make people think you are on a holy crusade against the Evil. I just see every player here wants to have fun. I have my fun, you have fun with your crusade.
Regards
c0rn1
How is Scalding Pass treating you these days?
Team Minmatar
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cirosolo
Confederation of Red Moon
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Posted - 2007.04.15 00:00:00 -
[233]
what a bunch of noob
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Izzy Pol
Fear and Loathing in LoneTrek
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Posted - 2007.04.15 01:27:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
How is Scalding Pass treating you these days?
You should log in occasionally. He and his allies are kicking your allies out of their space. I hear its quite a sight to see YOUR allies use motherships as evacuation vehicles.
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.15 03:12:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Aries Acheron
Originally by: nickky01
Originally by: Aries Acheron To Clarify: How about deploying Noobships in fleet battles? What's the legitimate use of a noobship in a fleetbattle aside from generating lag? Again, very borderline.
you really havn't lived until you've seen a shuttle in a fleet fight with fighters assigned. i kid you not.
I've seen that. Those are still stupid. An MWDing T1 frigate is better for the role and anyone can fly that. But an Ibis? If a 8000 isk shuttle is too much for you, stop playing Eve. ;)
It's not always possible, in rare instances a shuttle jettisoned from a carrier is all you've got.
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Foopadoo
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Posted - 2007.04.15 10:37:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Aries Acheron
Note.. how I said noobship. Rookie ship, whatever. Have you noticed that you can hop into a T1 frigate immediately after starting the game? If your alliance can't afford a goddamn 200k Kestrel or Rifter... or 40k Condor, something is wrong. Exaggerate much? No alliance newbie works 'a month' to earn a Tech 1 frigate.
Stop trying to defend the use of a civilian laser armed ship as anything but a lag generator. Frigate PVP is valid, sure. But not Ibis PVP. I can't believe you're actually trying to chastise me for suggesting that.
That's a good point... Everyone knows rookie ships generate more lag than frigates 
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mr bighelmet
EnTech Pax Familia
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Posted - 2007.04.15 13:08:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Foopadoo
Originally by: Aries Acheron
Note.. how I said noobship. Rookie ship, whatever. Have you noticed that you can hop into a T1 frigate immediately after starting the game? If your alliance can't afford a goddamn 200k Kestrel or Rifter... or 40k Condor, something is wrong. Exaggerate much? No alliance newbie works 'a month' to earn a Tech 1 frigate.
Stop trying to defend the use of a civilian laser armed ship as anything but a lag generator. Frigate PVP is valid, sure. But not Ibis PVP. I can't believe you're actually trying to chastise me for suggesting that.
That's a good point... Everyone knows rookie ships generate more lag than frigates 
No they don't on the other hand if u lost one u can dock in station with your pod get ur noob ship and jump right back to the fight so u could lag it.
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31i73
BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.04.15 14:45:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Aries Acheron To Clarify: BoB is hardly a 'super omfg cheater'. Let's compare.
BoB has an illegal BPO (1 ship, and a bunch of ammo), spawned by a dev, then months later left in the corp hanger when the dev left. And apparently, self-reportd a complex bug after running it a few times.
I think you missed a whole big lot of things from the list :D And the big difference that other faction's gets their cheaters banned.
First off, It wasn't even BoD themselves that reported the bug, they were busy farming it. It was a BoD ally that did the reporting.
A certain resourceful guy has found out many other cases, which we can't link or talk here I guess (surprise!). I'm sure you can find that forum yourself.
Often forgotten are also various "events", that always seem to happen for the best of BoD. An example was last time a small BoD party was hanging around north for some weeks. There suddenly was at least 2 events in that area during those weeks. Some events give really big rewards, but there is no way to track them all or check what faction benefited from them. Not for players at least. I imagine CCP has that ability, but not the will to use it.
But, you are right in that it is a nice idea to do a "complete" list of sins/cheats BoD have done so far. It might be too big job for some one to do tho, maybe opening a thread about it and letting everyone to bring their links to certain cases would collect most of the cases faster and easier.
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Aries Acheron
The Valour
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Posted - 2007.04.15 22:26:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Foopadoo
Originally by: Aries Acheron
Note.. how I said noobship. Rookie ship, whatever. Have you noticed that you can hop into a T1 frigate immediately after starting the game? If your alliance can't afford a goddamn 200k Kestrel or Rifter... or 40k Condor, something is wrong. Exaggerate much? No alliance newbie works 'a month' to earn a Tech 1 frigate.
Stop trying to defend the use of a civilian laser armed ship as anything but a lag generator. Frigate PVP is valid, sure. But not Ibis PVP. I can't believe you're actually trying to chastise me for suggesting that.
That's a good point... Everyone knows rookie ships generate more lag than frigates 
Hey Alt. Post with your main.
Rookie Ships have ZERO combat value. Frigates at least can do some damage. Rookieships armed with civilian lasers would find it hard to break the tank on a pod. A Tech 1 frigate has a legitimate use as a cheap tackler. See the difference? Both generate the same lag. But a Frigate actually is used for something BESIDES generating lag.
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Ah, BoB farmed while still reporting. That's still probably better than Rouge Alliance running the bugged 8/10s even after CCP told them not to before the patch to fix it. Events... can be suspicious, but it's not the alliance cheating. That's tinfoil trash. ~~~
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drudger
The Nietzian Way Peons of Doom
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Posted - 2007.04.16 07:43:00 -
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wow, whole lot of ranting and raving. and a bunch of BoB butt kissing by the LV guy. me personally i think its a good thing the coalition is doing, if BoB owns all of 0.0, people will get bored of EvE really fast. and secondly we all know BoB is loving this like a kid in a candy store. gets boring being the big man on campus with no challenges. third, everyone uses exploits, come on, u dont think BoB crashed a nod to keep their stuff alive, and im sure coalition has done it to. this kinda stuff is going to happen in HUGE fleet engagments. lastly, who really cares? let coalition do what they want and let BoB do what they want, is any of this stopping you from going and running a lvl 4 mission. or hitting a low sec system to pop some poor bugger trying to get some extra isk? NOOOOO i dont think so  so lets all play the game. blow ships up, and earn isk.
the views portrayed by this computer generated image are in no way connected to the views of my corp/alliance
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.16 10:00:00 -
[241]
Originally by: drudger wow, whole lot of ranting and raving. and a bunch of BoB butt kissing by the LV guy.
I get paid nothing :( Nice to know that sticking to verifiable facts means you are biased towards bob. Not quite the admission i was looking for but it'll do.
Originally by: drudger me personally i think its a good thing the coalition is doing, if BoB owns all of 0.0, people will get bored of EvE really fast. and secondly we all know BoB is loving this like a kid in a candy store. gets boring being the big man on campus with no challenges.
Yea, we kinda established this already. It's the motivation of some people that is the issue.
Originally by: drudger third, everyone uses exploits, come on, u dont think BoB crashed a nod to keep their stuff alive, and im sure coalition has done it to. this kinda stuff is going to happen in HUGE fleet engagments.
I'm pretty sure you've never experienced what you are talking about. Exploiting doesn't just happen. Accusing people of purposely trying to kill nodes as if it were common or normal without any evidence is quite poor form too. Don't pretend you know what goes on in 0.0 warfare since you obviously do not. -- .sig apathy ftw |

prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.16 10:11:00 -
[242]
Edited by: prsr on 16/04/2007 10:07:56
Originally by: 31i73
First off, It wasn't even BoD themselves that reported the bug, [b]they were busy farming it[b].
Proof or speculation?
Originally by: 31i73
Often forgotten are also various "events", that always seem to happen for the best of BoD. An example was last time a small BoD party was hanging around north for some weeks. There suddenly was at least 2 events in that area during those weeks. Some events give really big rewards, but there is no way to track them all or check what faction benefited from them. Not for players at least. I imagine CCP has that ability, but not the will to use it.
No reliable numbers of any kind and an admission of not having proof or documentation. Pure speculation.
Originally by: 31i73 But, you are right in that it is a nice idea to do a "complete" list of sins/cheats BoD have done so far. It might be too big job for some one to do tho, maybe opening a thread about it and letting everyone to bring their links to certain cases would collect most of the cases faster and easier.
Yes, such a list would be nice. One place for everyone who's ever heard some unsupported story from a "friend" to type it out so everybody can feign outrage and pretend thats why they are no match for bob. I'm looking forward to it!  -- .sig apathy ftw |

31i73
BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: prsr
Proof or speculation?
I explained this 2 times already, I think. Read the whole thread and you'll understand.
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FireFox McProwler
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.18 15:51:00 -
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I dont know what your all going on about but I thought AXE is fighting for more 4 legged friends >.>
Spoils of war
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