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Cat Casidy
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2007.04.15 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Cat Casidy on 15/04/2007 15:30:37
thanks to the OP for being a "stupid girl" and ruining it for the rest of us. Grow up , adapt, or leave, but please dont drag gender into this
edited to put those quotes in, we all know what that means
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Arialla
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Posted - 2007.04.15 23:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Cadela Fria
EVE is not about fairness, rightousness or any such man-made moral crap.
Glad you think it is crap. Puts some perspective on your comments.
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It's about survival. If you can't survive, you don't deserve to live and that goes for you too Bekka Jae.
Oh god, you can't kill anyone in EVE. Wake up to reality.
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The test of survival never ends. As long as you're playing you're being tested to see if you're strong enough to survive.
Erm...yeah right. Do you have "Eye of the Tiger" going full blast while you pew pew pew?
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That test only ends if you give up. You may whine now, but once you've played for a year..maybe 2...you'll see I've been right all along.
OMG! I didn't know it is a test! And I didn't even study :(
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(notice: respect for those who quit EVE due to RL reasons, thats totally different)
Yes, because everyone plays the game to gain your respect. If you play EVE for more than 6 months your are a WINNER!!!!
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Ignore my second post on page 9 if you want, but sooner or later you'll have to come to terms with it.
Your posts are so far gone into unreality that ignoring them would be a serious dent in the comedy value of the forums. Taking them serious though, there is the real danger.
-- Arialla
Originally by: Robocop
Scammer: You probably don't think I'm a very nice guy, do ya?
Murphy: Buddy, I think you're slime.
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Infinity MKII
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Posted - 2007.04.15 23:48:00 -
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Some Thread Myths:
1. Empire is not supposed to be safe except if your in an npc corp. Then its marginally safer but not totally safe.
2. Wars were never supposed to scale indefinitely. They were supposed to be the same as corp wars. Your target wars x 50 million with a cap at 200 million. The only difference is the total wars cap. Please provide evidence of developer comment to counter this if you have it.
3. Privateers was not set up as a 'griefer' entity, I know because I set it up initially, it was set up specifically to kill big powerful and rich alliances.
4. Elvis is still alive and living in afghanistan.
5. The most important one. No matter what you do, and no matter how CCP nerfs 'teh evil griefers', EvE Online history has shown they will always find a new way to 'grief' you.
I would say go play WoW but I would rather you didnt since I play it and theres enough whiners there already 
Infinity Ziona
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CHAOS100
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.16 00:03:00 -
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One day I want to make a "noob" corp with a bunch of alts and pretend we're just miners so someone can wardec us for free kills.
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.04.16 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity MKII
Some Thread Myths:
1. Empire is not supposed to be safe except if your in an npc corp. Then its marginally safer but not totally safe.
2. Wars were never supposed to scale indefinitely. They were supposed to be the same as corp wars. Your target wars x 50 million with a cap at 200 million. The only difference is the total wars cap. Please provide evidence of developer comment to counter this if you have it.
3. Privateers was not set up as a 'griefer' entity, I know because I set it up initially, it was set up specifically to kill big powerful and rich alliances.
4. Elvis is still alive and living in afghanistan.
5. The most important one. No matter what you do, and no matter how CCP nerfs 'teh evil griefers', EvE Online history has shown they will always find a new way to 'grief' you.
I would say go play WoW but I would rather you didnt since I play it and theres enough whiners there already
Infinity Ziona
UFOs exist to welcome back to eve infinity
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Cute SpyGirl
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Posted - 2007.04.16 00:21:00 -
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The same people that tell us to play WoW, are also the same people that wonder why we don't have people in low sec; not enough players in 0.0 space; Players are staying in NPC corps too long; recruiters can't find any new members.
Like I said in the past, noobs need time to learn and play this game at their own pace. If veteran players keep on attacking us, why would noobs want to stick around or experiment out in 0.0 space. I always dream of living in 0.0 space, but how can I if I can't maintain friendship in high sec.
CCP wasted alot of money on advertisment and promotions, those moeny should be use for system improvement. People like us can promote this game easily and at no cost to CCP. Most of my friends refuse to come to EvE Online and some left becuase this game is not new players friendly what so ever.
I am in the news business. I goto these trade shows all the time. Everytime I mention EvE Online as a great game. The feedback I always get is that it is not a newbie friendly MMO. If you talk to people in the business, I think we all are asking the same question. The future is very bright for our game. I can't wait to see us walking around station.
This forum and this game added alot of insight to my next point paper. Good luck--I hope to see you all in the next trade show. P.S Can someone please tell GAVEN BLANDS to stop attacking us?
-Cute SpyGirl, aka Cute from zone.com
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Infinity MKII
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Posted - 2007.04.16 03:07:00 -
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Gavan Blands, please stop attacking them.
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Cadela Fria
Amarr
Eye of God
X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.04.16 03:58:00 -
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Edited by: Cadela Fria on 16/04/2007 04:01:24
Originally by: Arialla
Originally by: Cadela Fria
EVE is not about fairness, rightousness or any such man-made moral crap.
Glad you think it is crap. Puts some perspective on your comments.
Uh...okay, if you say so.
Originally by: Arialla
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It's about survival. If you can't survive, you don't deserve to live and that goes for you too Bekka Jae.
Oh god, you can't kill anyone in EVE. Wake up to reality.
If I made someone leave the game from killing their ships and pods, they're dead. So yes you can.
Heck, essentially, podding someone is killing them. You get a new body and retain your memory sure...but it's still a case of dying and getting transferred into a new body.
Less idiocy, more thinking please.
Originally by: Arialla
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The test of survival never ends. As long as you're playing you're being tested to see if you're strong enough to survive.
Erm...yeah right. Do you have "Eye of the Tiger" going full blast while you pew pew pew?
....huh?? Heck no, keep your fantasies to yourself. Weirdo
Originally by: Arialla
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That test only ends if you give up. You may whine now, but once you've played for a year..maybe 2...you'll see I've been right all along.
OMG! I didn't know it is a test! And I didn't even study :(
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(notice: respect for those who quit EVE due to RL reasons, thats totally different)
Well sucks to be you then, you fail EVE. Again, it's a figure of speech explaining the circumstances of playing EVE. You're obviously too dense to comprehend that and again, we end up at you making no sense whatsoever.
Originally by: Arialla
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(notice: respect for those who quit EVE due to RL reasons, thats totally different)
Yes, because everyone plays the game to gain your respect. If you play EVE for more than 6 months your are a WINNER!!!!
....What?
Not only did that make you look stupid because of your character's age, but it also again, made no sense.
Tell me, is that the sort of thing you're likely to do? You seem really good at it.
Oh wait no, I get it, you're just jealous you aren't getting my respect, well I'm sorry, but being as uber as I am is hard and sometimes, you just have to discard the weak links like you.
Originally by: Arialla
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Ignore my second post on page 9 if you want, but sooner or later you'll have to come to terms with it.
Your posts are so far gone into unreality that ignoring them would be a serious dent in the comedy value of the forums. Taking them serious though, there is the real danger.
There is nothing unreal about my post. It's too bad your mind seems to feeble to understand it. Oh well, I'm not really surprised..you're another one of those inferior players who thinks they have it all figured out after having played for 3 months.
Let me guess, you're Bekka's buttbuddy.
Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.16 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: Cute SpyGirl
...The feedback I always get is that it is not a newbie friendly MMO...
Sorry, as someone who was a noob I have to ask. It isn't?
Seriously you can stay in an NPC corp with no cost as long as you like while you learn how stuff works. You can make huge amounts of ISK in hi-sec and never venture into low sec unless you choose to (nobody is forcing you to take that mission).
New players now have a much better tutorial and can start with much better stats so they have an instant leg up. Even so it wasn't that bad when I started. In my infinite nubness one of the first things I did was form a corp with a bunch of mates. Most of us were fairly new, in fact the majority all started in the same month.
So there we were, barely able to fly in a straight line and fully war deccable from day one. One of my guys decided to go scouting early on. He took his shiney Rifter off into the black and ended up in 0.0 somewhere. He saw another guy at the gate and was just about to ask directions as he got one shotted into his pod. I think the phrase "I barely had time to **** my pants before I was back in a clone bay" came up.
I heard about the joys of inertial stabilisers and strapped some to my Hoarder a few days into the game. Good job too as the first time I went into low sec it was right into a Scorpion camping the gate. I actually got away from him and made it to the station I was picking up from. Of course I had no instas so i was stuck until I took a crash course in reading the old map and found a route that would get me back to base with only a couple of extra jumps. I went on to make hundreds of mil using that back door to bypass the Amamake camps and I still have that Hoarder 
Being the low life scavangers we were we decided to check out this Amamake gate once the pirates had gone. Sure enough we found lots of corpses and some modest loot. We even found a shipment that someone had mentioned they lost as we saw them come through the gate. We returned it to them and gained a local ally.
The story is a long one but it all revolves around being useful to people who will help you and avoiding those that can turn you into a statistic. It all depends on how you conduct yourself. I had a guy join my corp after he had been in the game for a month. Straight away he was out in 0.0 making BMs, tackling ships for the squad and scouting for targets. He lost a fair number of Rifters but learned something every time. That was a year ago, he now routinely leads fast attack runs in his Vagabond.
The fact is we were all noobs once and we faced all the same trials. How we faced them determined where we ended up. Eve is not unfriendly to noobs, it's just plain unfriendly. I have been here for two years, I can easily jump through a gate into a system at the wrong time and lose a 200mil ship in a heartbeat. There is no magical point in the game where you are suddenly immune to loss, you learn to manage it and deal with it but it is always there.
While I say that it is a hostile and unforgiving game there is a flipside. My corp mates and the other members of my alliance have a bond between us that I have never seen in any other game. You speak of friendship and I'll tell you have have got some solid mates in this game.
The strongest bonds are not forged mining in 0.7, most of those guys will run a mile when things turn bad. When your gang of Rifters has been hunted accross 14 systems by a fleet of Battleship and HACs you know who you can rely on. When your bases are being butchered, you are outnumbered 5 to 1 and your only option is to try near suicidal hit and run attacks you know then who your mates are and who has your back. Of course I shouldn't be so harsh on miners, I used to be one. I rememeber out of the blue someone I used to mine next to heard my POS was in bad shape and turned up out of the blue in a Scimitar to help rescue it.
I guess it takes a bloody nose to clear the eyes.
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Calvin Firenze
Minmatar
Plundering Penguins
3asy Company
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Posted - 2007.04.16 04:08:00 -
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Edited by: Calvin Firenze on 16/04/2007 04:11:11
I can't believe I made it to page 4 of this thread before I lost interest. I really have no opinion either way. I'm happy with things the way they are. If we gank you and you wardec us, just gives us more space we can shoot at you in Empire is a snoozefest, empire wars help that. slightly
Just read the post right above mine. props on a good post 
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Arialla
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Posted - 2007.04.16 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Cadela Fria
Let me guess, you're Bekka's buttbuddy.
And that sums you up perfectly. You are truly a waste of space.
-- Arialla
Originally by: Robocop
Scammer: You probably don't think I'm a very nice guy, do ya?
Murphy: Buddy, I think you're slime.
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.04.16 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity MKII
Gavan Blands, please stop attacking them.
Venus have always been offered a way out of my attentions, but they don't want to take it. If they pay the man, they are weak and an easy target and I'll just come back for more, so their logic goes.
Well not paying the man has brought them nothing but hassle for quite some time, and it's certainly cost them a lot more than the ransom/protection money asked, but as I mentioned before, these are not super intelligent beings we're dealing with here.
On the flip side, the last corp that did pay the man, get rewarded with all the stuff that is no use to me that I find while going about my business, like probed mining sites etc... it's my way of saying "We're all Eve players in an intertwined universe of opportunity, fortune and the occasional battle. Enjoy." Obviously I don't want to say who they were because that would invite other scumbags like me to hit them, and that wouldn't be very nice.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.04.16 10:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 16/04/2007 10:24:48
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
[ very long and good post ]
Posts like these are very inspiring to people. If people were exposed to stories like that instead of threats of death and eternal damnation for even looking at a lowsec gate, then maybe more people wouldnt play the game just to make isk and buy stuff in safe space.
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Malcanis
High4Life
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Posted - 2007.04.16 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Cute SpyGirl
The same people that tell us to play WoW, are also the same people that wonder why we don't have people in low sec; not enough players in 0.0 space; Players are staying in NPC corps too long; recruiters can't find any new members.
Like I said in the past, noobs need time to learn and play this game at their own pace. If veteran players keep on attacking us, why would noobs want to stick around or experiment out in 0.0 space. I always dream of living in 0.0 space, but how can I if I can't maintain friendship in high sec.
CCP wasted alot of money on advertisment and promotions, those moeny should be use for system improvement. People like us can promote this game easily and at no cost to CCP. Most of my friends refuse to come to EvE Online and some left becuase this game is not new players friendly what so ever.
I am in the news business. I goto these trade shows all the time. Everytime I mention EvE Online as a great game. The feedback I always get is that it is not a newbie friendly MMO. If you talk to people in the business, I think we all are asking the same question. The future is very bright for our game. I can't wait to see us walking around station.
This forum and this game added alot of insight to my next point paper. Good luck--I hope to see you all in the next trade show. P.S Can someone please tell GAVEN BLANDS to stop attacking us?
-Cute SpyGirl, aka Cute from zone.com
I found EVE fantastic fun as a noob. But then I didn't expect everyone to do everything I wanted just because I wanted them to, nor to change the game just for me.
EVE is an incredible challenge. People respond to challenges in 2 ways; some enjoy rising to meet them; others shrink away from then. In EVE only the first kind of player prospers, and they, perhaps justifiably, view the others with contempt when they whine and cry for the challenges to be reduced rather than raise their game.
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SFShootme
The Carebear Stare
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.16 11:39:00 -
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i think this thread only got so large because of the sex in the title...
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Cadela Fria
Amarr
Eye of God
X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.04.16 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Arialla
Originally by: Cadela Fria
Let me guess, you're Bekka's buttbuddy.
And that sums you up perfectly. You are truly a waste of space.
And once again you manage to make absolutely no sense whatsoever, other then proving me right.
Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
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Arialla
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Posted - 2007.04.16 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Cadela Fria
Originally by: Arialla
Originally by: Cadela Fria
Let me guess, you're Bekka's buttbuddy.
And that sums you up perfectly. You are truly a waste of space.
And once again you manage to make absolutely no sense whatsoever, other then proving me right.
I'm sorry, nothing a homophobe says has any real value. I could care less whether I make sense to you or not. And if you said you are a total waste of space, then yes, I did prove you right.
May I never have to read anything you write ever again.
-- Arialla
Originally by: Robocop
Scammer: You probably don't think I'm a very nice guy, do ya?
Murphy: Buddy, I think you're slime.
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ry ry
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Posted - 2007.04.16 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Cute SpyGirl
The same people that tell us to play WoW, are also the same people that wonder why we don't have people in low sec; not enough players in 0.0 space;
Blizzard podded you?
anyway, eve's near vertical learning curve is part of the appeal. if you don't have the initiative to figure things out for yourself a game like Eve isn't going to be the game for you, and something with more defined goals and simpler game mechanics like WoW might be more appropriate. That's not anti-WoW elitism either, i played wow for seven months or so and only quit because i'd done everything it was possible to do in-game without quitting work to farm PvP rank all day. Top game.
I just fink that Eve works an entirely different set of mental muscles.
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Coola Roodatap
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Posted - 2007.04.17 01:46:00 -
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 wow so many replys here.. she only ****ed off cause we are kickin there butts here look for your self Linkage
it be more but there tio scared to undock
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Jonas Umbator
Beyond Divinity Inc
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 06:00:00 -
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Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
Eve is not unfriendly to noobs, it's just plain unfriendly.
I am still learning things about this game. It's unfriendliness and overwhelming qualities were what drew me to it. It's like a new toy that has so many buttons on it it takes you weeks to figure it all out but you're excited about discovering it all. Those types of toys aren't for everyone. I think the people that like those toys are the ones playing this game. EVE is meaty. You get to chew it for a while. It's certainly not bite-size.
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Audemed
Wraiths Reborn
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 07:36:00 -
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Ya know, it's funny, in our alliance mail we're constantly getting CONCORD mails about who we've decced and who's decs are expiring. Also, once in a while, right after a dec, there's a little message about them surrendering...I have a little feeling that maybe, perhaps, if you're really that scared of pvp, you could (oh noes!) actually do that? Seems logical to me.
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Currently stationed in Iraq, 190 days left to go!
PVP in EvE is consentual, you agree to it when you login.
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.17 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jonas Umbator
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
Eve is not unfriendly to noobs, it's just plain unfriendly.
I am still learning things about this game. It's unfriendliness and overwhelming qualities were what drew me to it. It's like a new toy that has so many buttons on it it takes you weeks to figure it all out but you're excited about discovering it all. Those types of toys aren't for everyone. I think the people that like those toys are the ones playing this game. EVE is meaty. You get to chew it for a while. It's certainly not bite-size.
For sure, it's a regular 20lb steak of a game. The funny thing is I just did exactly what I said could happen. I jumped through a gate at the wrong time and lost a prized ship. It wasn't worth a lot but it had sentimental value. But the full story has it's own post.
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Mangus Thermopyle
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.17 08:54:00 -
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I cant believe anyone is actually argueing wether privateers are griefing or not. Of course they are. Wardeccing noob corps and industrial corps to get ganks it the very definition of griefing.
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.04.17 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Coola Roodatap
wow so many replys here.. she only ****ed off cause we are kickin there butts here look for your self
it be more but there tio scared to undock
Don't tell them that you're not me, you'll shatter the poor darling's comfort illusions.
And secondly, you seem to have not posted the Galkyn Capsule killmail. Oh wait, I don't know anything about that, I wasn't there... seeing as I am not at war with them...
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Cadela Fria
Amarr
Eye of God
X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.04.17 09:42:00 -
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Edited by: Cadela Fria on 17/04/2007 09:39:03
Originally by: Arialla
Originally by: Cadela Fria
Originally by: Arialla
Originally by: Cadela Fria
Let me guess, you're Bekka's buttbuddy.
And that sums you up perfectly. You are truly a waste of space.
And once again you manage to make absolutely no sense whatsoever, other then proving me right.
I'm sorry, nothing a homophobe says has any real value. I could care less whether I make sense to you or not. And if you said you are a total waste of space, then yes, I did prove you right.
May I never have to read anything you write ever again.
Good thing I'm not a homophobe then huh?
And I did not say you were right about me being a total waste of space, learn to read - Just because you're inferior doesn't mean you have to strut around shouting it.
Yet again you manage to make a complete idiot of yourself.
As for never reading what I write again, why? Can't handle the truth? Sure seems that way.
Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
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Umit Davala
Corpus PCG
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Posted - 2007.04.17 09:58:00 -
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Wow, this thread is still going!
The ickle 20 man Corp im in got decced by the Privs yesterday because my CEO shot at someones (not PA) Phoon. 
Do we have a chance? Hell no. Is it griefing? Hell No.
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Aioa
Planetary Assault Systems
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Posted - 2007.04.17 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
I cant believe anyone is actually argueing wether privateers are griefing or not. Of course they are. Wardeccing noob corps and industrial corps to get ganks it the very definition of griefing.
Great. Now you've defined that as 'griefing', how does that change or affect the situation?
Oh right, it doesn't.
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Kieranda
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Posted - 2007.04.17 10:56:00 -
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PvP in EVE is consensual - you agree to it by logging in
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SFShootme
The Carebear Stare
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
I cant believe anyone is actually argueing wether privateers are griefing or not. Of course they are. Wardeccing noob corps and industrial corps to get ganks it the very definition of griefing.
Does lv/(former) ascn/bob fall under noob industrial corps aswell? As i do find that very amusing...
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.18 05:09:00 -
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Okay, I just read that recent devblog about the war dec changes.
So now after the change the group declaring war will have their number of wars compared to those on the target and the larger amount compounds the war cost. Before the change only the number of wars on the declared on corp compounded the war cost for the aggressor.
So, while everyone was screaming there was no way to fight back you had:
a) Stay in an NPC corp where you can avoid PvP - not liked
b) Talk to the other groups war decced by Privateers and wrok together.
c) War dec any corp leaving Privateers to deny them respite when they need it.
d) All corps at war with Privateers declare war on each other. Make it mutual to make it free for you but drive up the war costs for Privateers exponentially.
Anyway, much crying has been done and can now cease since the mechanics will change.
For the Privateers at least you can now say a game mechanic has changed through your actions. Like MoO and low sec gate guns.
If anyone is running a book what odds can you give me on the next hot forum topic being "ZOMG my freighter got suicide ganked and I didn't get it reimbursed. THis iS bRoKen!!"?
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