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Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
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Posted - 2016.12.30 10:11:33 -
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Yes, EVE is close to be shut down! After all, it is know that thirteen year old MMOs all shut down a year after, specially if they are making a profit and the developers behind it are laser focused on working the game themselves love while keeping their livelihood going so they can support their homes and families.
Real talk? Instead of being busy thinking about whether the game will exist one year from now, what about you have fun with it now instead of mincing details? Isn't a good short life one worth living? |

Sequester Risalo
Semiki Minerals and Missiles Company Ltd.
262
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Posted - 2016.12.30 10:39:57 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote: CCP has not future proofed its product very well. Attempts to do so all have resulted in disjointed disasters. They tried to integrate and develop EVE by peripheral products. All have failed.
I beg to differ. True, Dust 514 has shut down. But Valkyrie and Gunjack seem to be successes in my perception. |

Dibz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
164
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Posted - 2016.12.30 10:52:35 -
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Trasch Taranogas wrote:Im new
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
568
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Posted - 2016.12.30 11:20:12 -
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just checking in on this, yet another EVE is dying thread. get a life scrubs, do you sit pondering the lifespan of your fecking cup of coffee this morning, or like the rest of us, enjoyed it and gave it little or no thought apart from mmmm nice.
ffs people.
can someone start a "The sun is dying" thread. makes as much sense.
OP if you like the game play it. |

Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2016.12.30 12:18:35 -
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Sequester Risalo wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote: CCP has not future proofed its product very well. Attempts to do so all have resulted in disjointed disasters. They tried to integrate and develop EVE by peripheral products. All have failed.
I beg to differ. True, Dust 514 has shut down. But Valkyrie and Gunjack seem to be successes in my perception.
They have failed to integrate into EVE proper, is my point.
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2016.12.30 12:59:49 -
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Yes, older players drop out of the game, and new people join.
The thing is, you don't _stay_ new. So it's not like there's a massive loss of institutional knowledge when an older player leaves. Because what they know has been picked up by players who are in the middle of their life as an eve player.
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Sequester Risalo
Semiki Minerals and Missiles Company Ltd.
263
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Posted - 2016.12.30 13:06:54 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:They have failed to integrate into EVE proper, is my point.
Now I see where you`re coming from. If this is your standard I know no game who has successfully integrated a spin off into its gameplay. Also I doubt I would want my fighters or turrets be operated by another player without knowing or being able to influence said players skill and/or level of intoxication. |

Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.30 14:11:32 -
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xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:just checking in on this, yet another EVE is dying thread. get a life scrubs, do you sit pondering the lifespan of your fecking cup of coffee this morning, or like the rest of us, enjoyed it and gave it little or no thought apart from mmmm nice.
ffs people.
can someone start a "The sun is dying" thread. makes as much sense.
OP if you like the game play it.
But the sun *is* dying. For another five billion years approximately.
Also, everywhere one goes there's always that guy who holds up the placard that screams, "DOOOOOM!". I don't mean the doom where we get to kill demons with our bare hands, mind.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Acher0n Hades
Ze One Man Show
1
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Posted - 2016.12.30 15:06:58 -
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Yes, EVE is 100% sure going to die soon, it is known. Luckily I already have the code and permission to run a new and free for all server. I am offering special deals until the old servers shut down: Give me ISK and I will give it back ten times on the new server. You can get personal housing, skins and ships too, just send me ISK and let me know what you want at TheEndIsNear(at)EVE.com
I also offer insurances for ships and structures you will leave behind on DoomsDay. Make sure your beloved ones have everything they need after you have ascended to the new servers. If you want the to claim the names of your current pilots, heroes or enemies on the new servers this will be only 10 Million ISK per name. Halos are at 20 Mil.
EDIT: I have to withdraw this great offer because of the forum EULA but you will all know where to find me, no worries. |

Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2016.12.30 16:04:30 -
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Sequester Risalo wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:They have failed to integrate into EVE proper, is my point. Now I see where you`re coming from. If this is your standard I know no game who has successfully integrated a spin off into its gameplay. Also I doubt I would want my fighters or turrets be operated by another player without knowing or being able to influence said players skill and/or level of intoxication.
1) Its money/time/effort that didnt go into EVE. 2) These spinoffs do not contribute to EVE. 3) Since there is no integration of these spinoffs into EVE, your last sentence is hypothetical.
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Raleit
Cobalt Brigade
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Posted - 2016.12.30 17:31:42 -
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There they go again......................
FAKE NEWS! |

Akali Mid
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.30 17:42:30 -
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yes next march |

Vale Maleic
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.31 07:54:49 -
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As someone who has worked (now retired) in the video game industry specifically in MMOG's, I would speculate that CCP is still making good profit from EVE Online. As I have zero insight into their business (operating costs, investments, loans, etc), that's just my industry experience guess.
I only say that because CCP is running a one-universe type game here that actually shows their numbers. While it's surely lower from back in the day when I used to play, it's still solid numbers for a niche MMOG that many didn't think would succeed. There are other online games that were subscription based that went F2P with speculated much lower player numbers who are still around today. There are also those with much lower that have sold off to other companies or completely shut down.
Being they have had some cuts and whatnot--which always happens in this industry to keep the game profitable--I have no doubt they would ever be in a position to not sustain EVE, at least not anytime soon. If they are looking to sale, it's likely not because of player numbers. It's likely do to something else. Afterall, CCP Games is still a business and likely still aiming for being a for profit business regardless of any emotional or other attachment we have.
Just my 2 cents anyways. |

Max Fubarticus
K Diamond Holding LTD. Bullets Bombs and Blondes
180
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Posted - 2016.12.31 15:37:43 -
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Etain Darklightner Agittain wrote:^ above question. Just getting back into it and friends that have left the game due to real life issues have speculated CCP may be selling the game? I hope not. I really like this game and the hilarious local chat when you pop people on gate camps....
Yes, it will be shutting down shortly... As soon as I can find which one is the Off/On switch.
Civil discourse is uniquely human. After all, when is the last time a pride of lions and a herd of water buffalo negotiated SOV over a watering hole? Never.
Someone either gets their ass kicked or eaten. At the end of the day someone holds SOV.
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lolia Fumimasa
elo hells hole
0
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Posted - 2016.12.31 16:42:27 -
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Its my opinion and hope that EVE will not die soon because I think that there's so much new technology coming out sooner or later there will be strong enough server to overcome tidi and have a real time pleasant capital fight with 10k+ people in eve with no lag at all.Because eve player base is not so large this moment is not so far away in time, and once tech catches up the game will be given new life because finally eve videos will resemble what's going on in game.  |

Sark Nosha
Nosha Trading Empire
43
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Posted - 2016.12.31 21:15:53 -
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Eve has been around a long time and I have seen a significant change in the player numbers since around 2012 - and the f2p aspect appears to be providing a bit of an injection over the last month or so of new players - if half of them stay around then eve will have picked up some reasonable numbers - and with the way alpha accounts are restricted many of those will either buy plex or a subscription- there is little incentive to stay free once a player has learned the basics of eve- but it means players can learn the game without putting a 3 or 6 month subscription down- this way new players can make an informed decision to pay for the game or not. This could work for ccp and I hope it does. Still lots to work on - but all the graphics improvements in the last two years have sharpened up the game nicely. I think eve has a big future ahead at this point. |

Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.12.31 21:20:35 -
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Malcanis wrote:
PS given that eve has had no compromise on all-zones non-consensual PvP for 14 years now, I think it might be time for you to accept that there won't be much shift on that point in the next 14.
LOL , Oh Mal, ever the optimist .
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Charley Varrick
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.12.31 22:47:45 -
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Malcanis wrote:Charley Varrick wrote:I been seeing these "EVE is dying" threads for a long time now but I think it may be for real this time. EVE has lost a lot of players due to changes over the last year and while they have gained some, most of the gains will be short lived. Free to play brings in a different type of gamer, not the subscription type players that have keep things going for 10 years. In the end, I doubt they will pick up very many subscriptions. The player base is slowly getting smaller and smaller and new threads pop up on a daily basis with complaints of greefing and forced PVP. Not saying I agree with them...EVE is EVE....just saying that the player base has become like a snake eating it's own tail. Everyone who likes the darker side of EVE is already playing or has played. All the new players coming in for free who are used to games basically handing them everything they need with no chance of losing it, well, I just can't see them subscribing for any long period of time. Just my 2 cents! I hope I'm wrong. I read basically this exact post in 2008. Again in 2010, 2011, 2014 and... Well, you get the point. PS given that eve has had no compromise on all-zones non-consensual PvP for 14 years now, I think it might be time for you to accept that there won't be much shift on that point in the next 14.
As I said... EVE is EVE. I didn't say I agreed. I know it wont change nor do I want it to. I do believe it will be the downfall of this game though.
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
1112
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Posted - 2016.12.31 23:03:55 -
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You mean you haven't heard? They're shutting down the servers in less than an hour!
SCATTER! PANIC! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! FLEE NOW AND SAVE YOURSELVES!
...oh, and have a happy New Year!
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Leucy Kerastase
650BN
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Posted - 2017.01.01 00:48:20 -
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Soon"TM" |

Somehow
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.01.01 01:02:26 -
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Yeah, EvE will close soon and forever. In the meantime... can I have your stuff? (No one posted this yet? Please!)
Somehow |

Vortexo VonBrenner
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
2600
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Posted - 2017.01.01 01:35:47 -
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Etain Darklightner Agittain wrote: Will this game be shut down soon?
no
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Aaaarrgg
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2017.01.01 01:56:06 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Malcanis wrote:
PS given that eve has had no compromise on all-zones non-consensual PvP for 14 years now, I think it might be time for you to accept that there won't be much shift on that point in the next 14.
LOL , Oh Mal, ever the optimist .
have to admit the way CCP is heading, things are changing and not for the good |

Captain Tardbar
Hentogaira Miners Alliance
1182
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Posted - 2017.01.01 09:25:12 -
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Well now that the year is over, can anyone post how much CCP made or lost in 2016?
Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2017.01.01 11:08:45 -
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Aaaarrgg wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Malcanis wrote:
PS given that eve has had no compromise on all-zones non-consensual PvP for 14 years now, I think it might be time for you to accept that there won't be much shift on that point in the next 14.
LOL , Oh Mal, ever the optimist . have to admit the way CCP is heading, things are changing and not for the good
I don't think Jenn was referring to my optimism about CCP.
"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."
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Verlyn
Minmatar Secret Service Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2017.01.02 05:56:06 -
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Eve is the only organic, massive, one server game/economy out there. It will keep interest and transcend throughout generations.
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Robert Lefcourt
BigPoppaMonkeys E.B.O.L.A.
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Posted - 2017.01.02 14:19:51 -
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MadMuppet wrote:I bailed three years ago because I had been hit with the nerf bat so many times I was going blind with rage
That's what usually happens when you jump on every fotm train there is. In terms of rebalancing the guys at CCP got way better over time. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2017.01.02 18:58:48 -
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Robert Lefcourt wrote:MadMuppet wrote:I bailed three years ago because I had been hit with the nerf bat so many times I was going blind with rage That's what usually happens when you jump on every fotm train there is. In terms of rebalancing the guys at CCP got way better over time.
yay for cross-training!
"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."
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Abyss Azizora
DODGING
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Posted - 2017.01.02 22:24:25 -
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Will it be shut down, absolutely 100% guaranteed, yes. Do any of us have a friggin clue when that will happen? Nope, but not likely for a few more years at least given CCP's public financials. Especially since this is the only game keeping CCP afloat cause they keep making moronic decisions about their other game attempts. (lol a console-only fps... brilliant.) |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2017.01.02 23:02:46 -
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Abyss Azizora wrote:Will it be shut down, absolutely 100% guaranteed, yes. Do any of us have a friggin clue when that will happen? Nope, but not likely for a few more years at least given CCP's public financials. Especially since this is the only game keeping CCP afloat cause they keep making moronic decisions about their other game attempts. (lol a console-only fps... brilliant.)
Uh it's not 2008 any more. Valkyrie and Gunjack have done pretty well.
"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."
Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
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