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Etain Darklightner Agittain
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Posted - 2016.12.29 17:47:35 -
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^ above question. Just getting back into it and friends that have left the game due to real life issues have speculated CCP may be selling the game? I hope not. I really like this game and the hilarious local chat when you pop people on gate camps.... |
Kolodi Ramal
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Posted - 2016.12.29 18:01:07 -
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Yes, "EVE is dying." /s |
ISD Max Trix
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Posted - 2016.12.29 18:02:04 -
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First, Not Speak as CCP as I Am not CCP,
The supposed sale rumor is based of a poorly researched article. I suggest reading this player blog as he gives a pretty good background on why this story came out. http://nosygamer.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-newest-rumor-of-sale-of-ccp-games.html
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Lulu Lunette
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Posted - 2016.12.29 18:10:52 -
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I think the talk that Eve is dying or the game is stagnant is a bit overrated. And Eve being for sale - a bit out of context too. They were seeking investors, which I guess means they are offering shares or part of the company in exchange for a huge check. CCP did this essentially to fund the development for Eve Valkyrie.
I think the kind of people that think Eve is dead are the kind that are bored for hours on end waiting for some sort of action to be spoon fed to them by their FC/CEO.
If Eve was dying, they wouldn't have just bought a new server or still be developing new patches and releases for it.
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2016.12.29 18:16:08 -
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I mean if someone did buy the game I assume they would have intentions of keeping it going to make a profit. Either that or we made some very rich person very salty, in which case I think I'd be too impressed to be mad. Talk about "winning eve"
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Posted - 2016.12.29 18:27:34 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:I mean if someone did buy the game I assume they would have intentions of keeping it going to make a profit. Either that or we made some very rich person very salty, in which case I think I'd be too impressed to be mad. Talk about "winning eve"
If I ever was to be rich enough to "win EVE" that way, I would hype a major expansion and blow everyone's pixels the day before the planned release right at down time, then add a massive useless patch than does not change the game at all but cause massive bandwidth requirement to gain access back to the server with an updated client, claim a major bug happened and wait for day 2 of the expansion to call myself out and just shut it all down.
I guess I'm kind of an a-hole for just thinking it all. |
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Posted - 2016.12.29 18:46:22 -
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The only way a new owner would shut down eve, is if hey wanted the ip.
If say a large company was to buy ccp, there are usually a few reasons:
1) they can make profit with the current players and will just milk what they can untill they sell for profit.
2) they want technology that ccp has, so they can use it to make a new 'better game" (alas west wood being bought out by EA, it was for the avatar tech to be use din thesims MMO plus #3)
3) the company has an ip the large guys want. (in west woods case, that was CnC.)
Otherwise, they typically just buy shares to own a company, collect there dividends then sell for profit, and the company chugs along with no issues, and no one caring,
So no, i don;t think eve is shutting down anytime soon. they just upgraded the server this past year, so we have at min about 4 years left to get there return on investment before they shut down. so basicly relax, and play the game
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Eternus8lux8lucis
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Posted - 2016.12.29 18:59:45 -
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Short answer.... YES!!!
Now contract me all your and your friends stuff seeing as I saved you a lot of hassle to stay subbed in this dead and dying game.
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2016.12.29 19:02:14 -
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I figure roughly 5 years of incrementally decreasing development/support (mostly towards F2P/P2Play/cosmetic and pet nonsense), next 5 years in terrible decline as a zombie.
CCP has not future proofed its product very well.
Attempts to do so all have resulted in disjointed disasters.
They tried to integrate and develop EVE by peripheral products.
All have failed.
This game also hasnt caught the attention/enthusiasm of the new generation of gamers.
Not because its hardcore (there is a huge market looking for exactly that right now), but because they dont like the idea of dealing with 10yr vets that dominate/steamroll the ingame environment. They already feel overwhelmed in their own life by babyboomers etc.
Aside from the "give me a reward for existing" millenials, those who might be otherwise interested in EVE, are more interested at a chance a new start in a fresh hardcore MMO, so they too can be 10yr vets down the line lording it over others.
They want a level playing field to start from.
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Posted - 2016.12.29 19:13:49 -
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I been seeing these "EVE is dying" threads for a long time now but I think it may be for real this time. EVE has lost a lot of players due to changes over the last year and while they have gained some, most of the gains will be short lived. Free to play brings in a different type of gamer, not the subscription type players that have keep things going for 10 years. In the end, I doubt they will pick up very many subscriptions. The player base is slowly getting smaller and smaller and new threads pop up on a daily basis with complaints of greefing and forced PVP. Not saying I agree with them...EVE is EVE....just saying that the player base has become like a snake eating it's own tail. Everyone who likes the darker side of EVE is already playing or has played. All the new players coming in for free who are used to games basically handing them everything they need with no chance of losing it, well, I just can't see them subscribing for any long period of time. Just my 2 cents! I hope I'm wrong. |
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Posted - 2016.12.29 19:27:41 -
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Selling for that money seems completely delusional for me too. That is why my belief is rather shifting into position it was false news. 
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Trasch Taranogas
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Posted - 2016.12.29 19:45:54 -
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@Salvos Rhoska
I admire you. You are friendly and make good points.
Im new but I have always wanted to play this game.
Tried a few times but it is truly overwhelming.
CCP and their playerbase are unique: CCP wanted so
badly to make an awesome game and please their
playerbase.
That is good. But if you werent along for the ride from early
on you will always feel like an outsider.
As old players drop out (thats how life works) the new players
are simply overwhelmed and confused, feeling truly stupid
and noobish.
You dont want to pay money for that feeling, especially if its
gonna take months to get "into" the game.
And being an Alpha means that you never will get "into" the
game. Too many restrictions.
I miss my IS-7
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2016.12.29 20:02:12 -
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Trasch, I like you too.
I also wish I had started EVE much earlier on.
But this ship is slowly sinking.
Doesnt mean we cant have fun while it lasts.
But the inevitable is closer than ever before.
Everything dies. All things end.
There may never be such an opportunity, game and community again.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
Alteast when the vets fall out, you and I can be kings of what is left, till the inevitable brings us down with it.
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Trasch Taranogas
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Posted - 2016.12.29 20:11:14 -
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@Salvos Rhoska
Naah, WoT has been dying for its whole life 
CCP has to make some tough decisions.
Downsize and maybe replace some of their crew.
Take a fresh "noob" look at the game and its mechanics.
Hell, maybe even start from scratch, EVE 2.0!
EVE: Return of the elder.
EVE: New dawn.
EVE: Offworld.
ADAM: The stoneage.
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2016.12.29 20:28:39 -
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There are ways EVE can re-invigorate its player base, temporarily.
But the problem is they have dumped so much money and effort into side-projects that didnt pan out.
As far as I know, there is no EVE 2.0 in the works.
And inorder for that to culminate in time, it should have been started years ago, when money was good, competition low, so as to be realized in the near future (~5yrs).
Enjoy it while it lasts.
We got a few more good years.
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Mara Pahrdi
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Posted - 2016.12.29 20:30:26 -
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The amount of positive change in the game during the last couple of years is staggering.
One of the finest examples is the warp speed change. When I joined EVE this somehow feeled lacking, that all ships were warping at the same speed. Reactions on forums were, that it's never going to change. You learn to deal with it and then, plop, one fine day it's there  .
CCP has done a tremendous job in the last years rebelancing ships so far. Not everything is fine. It takes time to put new ships in the right place. But the most important is, that they really stick to it continously.
The game as a product feels alive compared to 6 years ago. Obviously there is work to do. But what product of this size is ever finished?
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Posted - 2016.12.29 23:32:08 -
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I bailed three years ago because I had been hit with the nerf bat so many times I was going blind with rage. I'm back now, but it isn't the same. It isn't bad, but is isn't the same either. I have a 50/50 opinion on the death of EVE thing. I am going month to month. In my personal opinion, if it a money thing, make a mid-level clone that allows for players to use all they have trained, but they cannot train anymore. Maybe 67% of the Omega cost?
I'm playing an Alpha toon to see what the free players can experience. I know what is out there, but I want to see what they can do too.
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2016.12.29 23:50:31 -
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MadMuppet wrote:I bailed three years ago because I had been hit with the nerf bat so many times I was going blind with rage..
Which nerfs, specifically?
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Rob Goode
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Posted - 2016.12.30 00:07:00 -
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I'm a complete noob so I don't have any idea about the inner workings of the game or it's servers so this may be a dumb question...
Do you guys think it's possible that if this game shut down someone could make a private server? I ask b/c games with much higher population counts have private servers. The big WoW private server had a ton of people playing on it.
I do know that on EvE everyone is on the same server so that would make things a lot harder I'm sure. |
Kosomot
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Posted - 2016.12.30 00:07:23 -
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I prefer this article, much more uplifting
http://www.businessinsider.com/eve-online-andie-nordgren-executive-producer-on-ascension-2016-12
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or as EVE Online would have it...
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Posted - 2016.12.30 00:11:34 -
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Rob Goode wrote:I'm a complete noob so I don't have any idea about the inner workings of the game or it's servers so this may be a dumb question...
Do you guys think it's possible that if this game shut down someone could make a private server? I ask b/c games with much higher population counts have private servers. The big WoW private server had a ton of people playing on it.
I do know that on EvE everyone is on the same server so that would make things a lot harder I'm sure.
Short answer : Nope
Long answer : Google "meet tranquility"
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Posted - 2016.12.30 00:36:12 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote: those who might be otherwise interested in EVE, are more interested at a chance a new start in a fresh hardcore MMO, so they too can be 10yr vets down the line lording it over others.
They want a level playing field to start from.
This ....
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Posted - 2016.12.30 00:42:16 -
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Rob Goode wrote:I'm a complete noob so I don't have any idea about the inner workings of the game or it's servers so this may be a dumb question...
Do you guys think it's possible that if this game shut down someone could make a private server? I ask b/c games with much higher population counts have private servers. The big WoW private server had a ton of people playing on it.
I do know that on EvE everyone is on the same server so that would make things a lot harder I'm sure.
No chance.
If EVE goes completely **** up, CCP may throw a Hail Mary to the community by offering them the code to run and develop private servers so as to perpetuate their legacy.
But I wouldnt bet on it.
And EVE wouldnt be the same without a one server environment.
And I dunno whether one person can even facilitate EVE as a server with what people typically have at home for even a fraction of current population, unless you are playing on it alone. Probably not.
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Posted - 2016.12.30 08:56:02 -
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Why should EVE go down? The game is doing great. (There is no MMO game without a DOOOOM!1!1! thread now and then.)
A private/pirate EVE server?  HAHAHA .. just imagine the TiDi! |
Etain Darklightner Agittain
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Posted - 2016.12.30 09:10:01 -
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The article from Bloomberg was ambiguous at best. Speculation mostly. I see enough in game personally that makes me think it's got a few more years left. I am, by no means, an expert on MMOs or their longevity.
The 5 year prediction seems a bit short, but then again it could be spot on.
Returning to the game and resubbing so that I can fly all my Shiney ships is worthwhile for me. Even for the short duration. Not many other MMOS offer what EvE offers, if at all. They've made significant improvements to the game.with regard to new players joining the game. It definitely caters to the millenials. It will only get them so far however, because the curve is still steep when it comes to flying in nullsec.
I mean yea, it's fresh meat for the vets who are looking for new targets to pop or bait and pop in highsec, sure. Most of these newer players don't understand how to navigate defensively in the sand box. They'll either rage quit and another new player will take their place or adapt, learn to git gud and move on to nullsec for even more fun to be had.
I posted this question, because I personally love this game. I'm not entirely sure why I stopped playing 3 years ago. Real life demands took precedent. School, again, will be a thing, but I'm not going to let it stop me from enjoying what remains of the lifespan of this game.
I'll see you all in space my fellow pilots, either to pop my own shiney ships in an endeavor to pop yours or just pop yours. Regardless I'm looking forward to seeing lots more explosions to come! |
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Charley Varrick wrote:I been seeing these "EVE is dying" threads for a long time now but I think it may be for real this time. EVE has lost a lot of players due to changes over the last year and while they have gained some, most of the gains will be short lived. Free to play brings in a different type of gamer, not the subscription type players that have keep things going for 10 years. In the end, I doubt they will pick up very many subscriptions. The player base is slowly getting smaller and smaller and new threads pop up on a daily basis with complaints of greefing and forced PVP. Not saying I agree with them...EVE is EVE....just saying that the player base has become like a snake eating it's own tail. Everyone who likes the darker side of EVE is already playing or has played. All the new players coming in for free who are used to games basically handing them everything they need with no chance of losing it, well, I just can't see them subscribing for any long period of time. Just my 2 cents! I hope I'm wrong.
I read basically this exact post in 2008. Again in 2010, 2011, 2014 and... Well, you get the point.
PS given that eve has had no compromise on all-zones non-consensual PvP for 14 years now, I think it might be time for you to accept that there won't be much shift on that point in the next 14.
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Posted - 2016.12.30 09:18:02 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:There are ways EVE can re-invigorate its player base, temporarily.
But the problem is they have dumped so much money and effort into side-projects that didnt pan out.
As far as I know, there is no EVE 2.0 in the works.
And inorder for that to culminate in time, it should have been started years ago, when money was good, competition low, so as to be realized in the near future (~5yrs).
Enjoy it while it lasts.
We got a few more good years.
Depending on how you count it, we're playing EVE III or IV right now (EVE 8 or 9 if it was an EA game, or EVE 30+ if it was a Square Enix).
"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."
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Posted - 2016.12.30 09:19:51 -
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Trasch Taranogas wrote:
That is good. But if you werent along for the ride from early
on you will always feel like an outsider.
As old players drop out (thats how life works) the new players
are simply overwhelmed and confused, feeling truly stupid
and noobish.
You dont want to pay money for that feeling, especially if its
gonna take months to get "into" the game.
And being an Alpha means that you never will get "into" the
game. Too many restrictions.
Learn how the skill system works! Sure you are meat in the first month but the shiny Multi-Million-SP-Super-Carrier-skills will help a 15 year vet nothing when he is sitting in a frig or cruiser. And even if you are meat in a one-on-one get some friends and.....
I'm also loosing faith.....in you. If you dislike this game, as you posted in some threads, go away and be done with it! |
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:
As far as I know, there is no EVE 2.0 in the works.
And inorder for that to culminate in time, it should have been started years ago, when money was good, competition low, so as to be realized in the near future (~5yrs).
What would you suggest for an EVE 2.0? Such a thing would stop the development of Eve cold. Eve 2016 even has changed a lot from the November/2015 game I started. Eve is moving an changing which will keep it up for another 15 years, simply because there si nothing to compare it to. Every CEO of a development studio that would suggest a game with such harsh consequences as Eve would tarred and feathered and chased away. Even in Dark Souls you get your souls back after death. Eve has a secure niche which will hamper it's growth but on the other side will guarantee it's survival.
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Etain Darklightner Agittain wrote:^ above question. Just getting back into it and friends that have left the game due to real life issues have speculated CCP may be selling the game? I hope not. I really like this game and the hilarious local chat when you pop people on gate camps....
Yes, Eve will be shut down soon, in a little over 1 hour as I type this. Eve shuts down at the same time every day, it's called "the daily server reset".
You're welcome.
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Yes, EVE is close to be shut down! After all, it is know that thirteen year old MMOs all shut down a year after, specially if they are making a profit and the developers behind it are laser focused on working the game themselves love while keeping their livelihood going so they can support their homes and families.
Real talk? Instead of being busy thinking about whether the game will exist one year from now, what about you have fun with it now instead of mincing details? Isn't a good short life one worth living? |
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Posted - 2016.12.30 10:39:57 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:
CCP has not future proofed its product very well.
Attempts to do so all have resulted in disjointed disasters.
They tried to integrate and develop EVE by peripheral products.
All have failed.
I beg to differ. True, Dust 514 has shut down. But Valkyrie and Gunjack seem to be successes in my perception. |
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just checking in on this, yet another EVE is dying thread. get a life scrubs, do you sit pondering the lifespan of your fecking cup of coffee this morning, or like the rest of us, enjoyed it and gave it little or no thought apart from mmmm nice.
ffs people.
can someone start a "The sun is dying" thread. makes as much sense.
OP if you like the game play it. |
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Sequester Risalo wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:
CCP has not future proofed its product very well.
Attempts to do so all have resulted in disjointed disasters.
They tried to integrate and develop EVE by peripheral products.
All have failed.
I beg to differ. True, Dust 514 has shut down. But Valkyrie and Gunjack seem to be successes in my perception.
They have failed to integrate into EVE proper, is my point.
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Posted - 2016.12.30 12:59:49 -
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Yes, older players drop out of the game, and new people join.
The thing is, you don't _stay_ new. So it's not like there's a massive loss of institutional knowledge when an older player leaves. Because what they know has been picked up by players who are in the middle of their life as an eve player.
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:They have failed to integrate into EVE proper, is my point.
Now I see where you`re coming from. If this is your standard I know no game who has successfully integrated a spin off into its gameplay. Also I doubt I would want my fighters or turrets be operated by another player without knowing or being able to influence said players skill and/or level of intoxication. |
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xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:just checking in on this, yet another EVE is dying thread. get a life scrubs, do you sit pondering the lifespan of your fecking cup of coffee this morning, or like the rest of us, enjoyed it and gave it little or no thought apart from mmmm nice.
ffs people.
can someone start a "The sun is dying" thread. makes as much sense.
OP if you like the game play it.
But the sun *is* dying. For another five billion years approximately.
Also, everywhere one goes there's always that guy who holds up the placard that screams, "DOOOOOM!". I don't mean the doom where we get to kill demons with our bare hands, mind.
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Acher0n Hades
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Yes, EVE is 100% sure going to die soon, it is known. Luckily I already have the code and permission to run a new and free for all server. I am offering special deals until the old servers shut down: Give me ISK and I will give it back ten times on the new server. You can get personal housing, skins and ships too, just send me ISK and let me know what you want at TheEndIsNear(at)EVE.com
I also offer insurances for ships and structures you will leave behind on DoomsDay. Make sure your beloved ones have everything they need after you have ascended to the new servers. If you want the to claim the names of your current pilots, heroes or enemies on the new servers this will be only 10 Million ISK per name. Halos are at 20 Mil.
EDIT: I have to withdraw this great offer because of the forum EULA but you will all know where to find me, no worries. |
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Sequester Risalo wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:They have failed to integrate into EVE proper, is my point. Now I see where you`re coming from. If this is your standard I know no game who has successfully integrated a spin off into its gameplay. Also I doubt I would want my fighters or turrets be operated by another player without knowing or being able to influence said players skill and/or level of intoxication.
1) Its money/time/effort that didnt go into EVE.
2) These spinoffs do not contribute to EVE.
3) Since there is no integration of these spinoffs into EVE, your last sentence is hypothetical.
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There they go again......................
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Posted - 2016.12.31 07:54:49 -
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As someone who has worked (now retired) in the video game industry specifically in MMOG's, I would speculate that CCP is still making good profit from EVE Online. As I have zero insight into their business (operating costs, investments, loans, etc), that's just my industry experience guess.
I only say that because CCP is running a one-universe type game here that actually shows their numbers. While it's surely lower from back in the day when I used to play, it's still solid numbers for a niche MMOG that many didn't think would succeed. There are other online games that were subscription based that went F2P with speculated much lower player numbers who are still around today. There are also those with much lower that have sold off to other companies or completely shut down.
Being they have had some cuts and whatnot--which always happens in this industry to keep the game profitable--I have no doubt they would ever be in a position to not sustain EVE, at least not anytime soon. If they are looking to sale, it's likely not because of player numbers. It's likely do to something else. Afterall, CCP Games is still a business and likely still aiming for being a for profit business regardless of any emotional or other attachment we have.
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Max Fubarticus
K Diamond Holding LTD.
Bullets Bombs and Blondes
180
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Posted - 2016.12.31 15:37:43 -
[44] - Quote
Etain Darklightner Agittain wrote:^ above question. Just getting back into it and friends that have left the game due to real life issues have speculated CCP may be selling the game? I hope not. I really like this game and the hilarious local chat when you pop people on gate camps....
Yes, it will be shutting down shortly...
As soon as I can find which one is the Off/On switch.
Civil discourse is uniquely human. After all, when is the last time a pride of lions and a herd of water buffalo negotiated SOV over a watering hole? Never.
Someone either gets their ass kicked or eaten. At the end of the day someone holds SOV.
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lolia Fumimasa
elo hells hole
0
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Posted - 2016.12.31 16:42:27 -
[45] - Quote
Its my opinion and hope that EVE will not die soon because I think that there's so much new technology coming out sooner or later there will be strong enough server to overcome tidi and have a real time pleasant capital fight with 10k+ people in eve with no lag at all.Because eve player base is not so large this moment is not so far away in time, and once tech catches up the game will be given new life because finally eve videos will resemble what's going on in game. |
Sark Nosha
Nosha Trading Empire
43
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Posted - 2016.12.31 21:15:53 -
[46] - Quote
Eve has been around a long time and I have seen a significant change in the player numbers since around 2012 - and the f2p aspect appears to be providing a bit of an injection over the last month or so of new players - if half of them stay around then eve will have picked up some reasonable numbers - and with the way alpha accounts are restricted many of those will either buy plex or a subscription- there is little incentive to stay free once a player has learned the basics of eve- but it means players can learn the game without putting a 3 or 6 month subscription down- this way new players can make an informed decision to pay for the game or not. This could work for ccp and I hope it does. Still lots to work on - but all the graphics improvements in the last two years have sharpened up the game nicely. I think eve has a big future ahead at this point. |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners
Test Alliance Please Ignore
15037
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Posted - 2016.12.31 21:20:35 -
[47] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:
PS given that eve has had no compromise on all-zones non-consensual PvP for 14 years now, I think it might be time for you to accept that there won't be much shift on that point in the next 14.
LOL , Oh Mal, ever the optimist .
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Charley Varrick
State War Academy
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2016.12.31 22:47:45 -
[48] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Charley Varrick wrote:I been seeing these "EVE is dying" threads for a long time now but I think it may be for real this time. EVE has lost a lot of players due to changes over the last year and while they have gained some, most of the gains will be short lived. Free to play brings in a different type of gamer, not the subscription type players that have keep things going for 10 years. In the end, I doubt they will pick up very many subscriptions. The player base is slowly getting smaller and smaller and new threads pop up on a daily basis with complaints of greefing and forced PVP. Not saying I agree with them...EVE is EVE....just saying that the player base has become like a snake eating it's own tail. Everyone who likes the darker side of EVE is already playing or has played. All the new players coming in for free who are used to games basically handing them everything they need with no chance of losing it, well, I just can't see them subscribing for any long period of time. Just my 2 cents! I hope I'm wrong. I read basically this exact post in 2008. Again in 2010, 2011, 2014 and... Well, you get the point. PS given that eve has had no compromise on all-zones non-consensual PvP for 14 years now, I think it might be time for you to accept that there won't be much shift on that point in the next 14.
As I said... EVE is EVE. I didn't say I agreed. I know it wont change nor do I want it to. I do believe it will be the downfall of this game though.
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
1112
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Posted - 2016.12.31 23:03:55 -
[49] - Quote
You mean you haven't heard? They're shutting down the servers in less than an hour!
SCATTER! PANIC! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! FLEE NOW AND SAVE YOURSELVES!
...oh, and have a happy New Year!
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Leucy Kerastase
650BN
35
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Posted - 2017.01.01 00:48:20 -
[50] - Quote
Soon"TM" |
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Viziam
Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2017.01.01 01:02:26 -
[51] - Quote
Yeah, EvE will close soon and forever. In the meantime... can I have your stuff?
(No one posted this yet? Please!)
Somehow |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
2600
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Posted - 2017.01.01 01:35:47 -
[52] - Quote
Etain Darklightner Agittain wrote: Will this game be shut down soon?
no
EvE security zones in pictures
EvE quick reference pdf
EvE links
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Aaaarrgg
The Conference Elite
CODE.
26
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Posted - 2017.01.01 01:56:06 -
[53] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Malcanis wrote:
PS given that eve has had no compromise on all-zones non-consensual PvP for 14 years now, I think it might be time for you to accept that there won't be much shift on that point in the next 14.
LOL , Oh Mal, ever the optimist .
have to admit the way CCP is heading, things are changing and not for the good |
Captain Tardbar
Hentogaira Miners Alliance
1182
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Posted - 2017.01.01 09:25:12 -
[54] - Quote
Well now that the year is over, can anyone post how much CCP made or lost in 2016?
Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?
Captain Tardbar's Voice Discord Server
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
18285
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Posted - 2017.01.01 11:08:45 -
[55] - Quote
Aaaarrgg wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Malcanis wrote:
PS given that eve has had no compromise on all-zones non-consensual PvP for 14 years now, I think it might be time for you to accept that there won't be much shift on that point in the next 14.
LOL , Oh Mal, ever the optimist . have to admit the way CCP is heading, things are changing and not for the good
I don't think Jenn was referring to my optimism about CCP.
"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."
Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
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Verlyn
Minmatar Secret Service
Ushra'Khan
69
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Posted - 2017.01.02 05:56:06 -
[56] - Quote
Eve is the only organic, massive, one server game/economy out there. It will keep interest and transcend throughout generations.
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Robert Lefcourt
BigPoppaMonkeys
E.B.O.L.A.
18
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Posted - 2017.01.02 14:19:51 -
[57] - Quote
MadMuppet wrote:I bailed three years ago because I had been hit with the nerf bat so many times I was going blind with rage
That's what usually happens when you jump on every fotm train there is. In terms of rebalancing the guys at CCP got way better over time. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
18285
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Posted - 2017.01.02 18:58:48 -
[58] - Quote
Robert Lefcourt wrote:MadMuppet wrote:I bailed three years ago because I had been hit with the nerf bat so many times I was going blind with rage That's what usually happens when you jump on every fotm train there is. In terms of rebalancing the guys at CCP got way better over time.
yay for cross-training!
"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."
Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
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Abyss Azizora
DODGING
184
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Posted - 2017.01.02 22:24:25 -
[59] - Quote
Will it be shut down, absolutely 100% guaranteed, yes. Do any of us have a friggin clue when that will happen? Nope, but not likely for a few more years at least given CCP's public financials. Especially since this is the only game keeping CCP afloat cause they keep making moronic decisions about their other game attempts. (lol a console-only fps... brilliant.) |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
18292
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Posted - 2017.01.02 23:02:46 -
[60] - Quote
Abyss Azizora wrote:Will it be shut down, absolutely 100% guaranteed, yes. Do any of us have a friggin clue when that will happen? Nope, but not likely for a few more years at least given CCP's public financials. Especially since this is the only game keeping CCP afloat cause they keep making moronic decisions about their other game attempts. (lol a console-only fps... brilliant.)
Uh it's not 2008 any more. Valkyrie and Gunjack have done pretty well.
"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."
Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
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Abyss Azizora
DODGING
186
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Posted - 2017.01.03 13:44:59 -
[61] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Abyss Azizora wrote:Will it be shut down, absolutely 100% guaranteed, yes. Do any of us have a friggin clue when that will happen? Nope, but not likely for a few more years at least given CCP's public financials. Especially since this is the only game keeping CCP afloat cause they keep making moronic decisions about their other game attempts. (lol a console-only fps... brilliant.) Uh it's not 2008 any more. Valkyrie and Gunjack have done pretty well.
Those don't pull in constant revenue, plus they are VR games, which isn't exactly a large market. That said, at least they weren't flops like everything else, so hopefully thats a good sign of things to come. Just a shame they are turning the concept of DUST into a a copy/paste boring fps for PC that will be forgotten in a month or two. Also they screwed up as late as 2013-2014 if I recall. So your 2008 reference is itself out of date.
And the positive side, those little VR games lead to CCP making carriers in eve be fun to play in order to try and match the two games together. |
Lord Ra
Section XII
The Southern Querious Drug Cartel
120
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Posted - 2017.01.03 19:09:48 -
[62] - Quote
Eve will be around forever. |
Jade Blackwind
1240
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Posted - 2017.01.03 19:12:02 -
[63] - Quote
Etain Darklightner Agittain wrote:Will this game be shut down soon? No.
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Iron Breaker
ThinkTank Phoenix
TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
23
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Posted - 2017.01.04 00:43:26 -
[64] - Quote
The problem is there i really no place in EVE for casual players. The top 10% who enjoy harassing other players chase away the casual (paying) players.
Rather then spending time tinkering with the interface for the thousandth time, they need to add some layer to the game which players can use to defend them selves from griefers.
IMHO |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
1841
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Posted - 2017.01.04 02:14:40 -
[65] - Quote
Iron Breaker wrote:The problem is there i really no place in EVE for casual players. The top 10% who enjoy harassing other players chase away the casual (paying) players.
Rather then spending time tinkering with the interface for the thousandth time, they need to add some layer to the game which players can use to defend them selves from griefers.
IMHO
Tanking, warp core stabilizers (multiples of them), local chat contact list, the standing and security status system, D-scan, bookmarks system (use this for instant-undock and 0km dock bookmarks, perches, scouting bookmarks, etc) your own common sense and interpersonal skills. You are not lacking in ways to protect yourself from griefers. The problem is you didn't bother trying to find out how to avoid getting griefed and then blame it on the game lacking things like regulation against griefers.
Get educated and be vigilant. If you get griefed in here it's most likely because you didn't do either or both of the aforementioned.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Iron Breaker
ThinkTank Phoenix
TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
23
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Posted - 2017.01.04 03:05:04 -
[66] - Quote
Oh please, all that junk is meaningless when a gang of 20-30 come tearing through your space, all you can do is sit in station and spin. |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
1841
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Posted - 2017.01.04 03:32:45 -
[67] - Quote
Iron Breaker wrote:Oh please, all that junk is meaningless when a gang of 20-30 come tearing through your space, all you can do is sit in station and spin.
Offgrid instant-undock bookmarks. Drop that with a fast MWD frigate during peaceful times and use it every time you undock.
0m instant-dock bookmarks. Warp to this and as soon as the station shows up on grid you select station and spam the dock button.
D-scan and local will warn you of impending blob. Especially when the local number spikes up. Use short D-scan 1AU - 5AU and you will be warned of incoming blob (make sure to spam it. Hotkey that D-scan scan button). Use the time to align and get out.
If you are crazy/awesome/crazy-awesome enough to fight a 20-30 man gang fly a fast long range vessel of preferably cruisers (or smaller/larger if you are good enough) and learn to split the enemy gang on-grid. Do not allow anyone of them to get outside of 150km of each other, target the ones closest to you (usually tacklers) and keep transversal down by going straight line.
You HAVE TOOLS to deal with 20-30 man blob. The problem is you didn't know and you didn't bother to find out about these tools.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Doctor Phong
Gemini Technologies
2
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Posted - 2017.01.04 23:51:19 -
[68] - Quote
Eve has been dying for the nine years that I have been playing. Hope it dies for another nine.
Eve is the game people pay to hate. Never made any sense to me.
Deposit your stuff here.
Thanks |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
2020
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Posted - 2017.01.05 00:47:33 -
[69] - Quote
The day EVE dies Chribba shall buy it.
All hail The Chribba.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
1853
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Posted - 2017.01.05 12:04:12 -
[70] - Quote
Also, pointing out that if suspecting bubbles around station set up by 20-30 guys out in nullsec, combine offgrid instant undock with interceptors (bubble immunity) to scout and confirm bubble.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2017.01.05 18:14:36 -
[71] - Quote
As soon as I can play this game on the Nintendo 3DS I don't care who buys it, as soon as it isn't EA Games. I am cool with Ubisoft tho. |
Selene Dukat
Space Ants
Army of New Eden
15
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Posted - 2017.01.05 21:01:51 -
[72] - Quote
I can't believe we still get these "is Eve dying" posts after a game that has been online for over a decade. It is one of the longest running MMO in the history of MMOs. Despite ups and downs in concurrent players, it has a deeply loyal fanbase of very active players, plus a fairly large number of addicts who break and return, break and return, break and return to the game over many years.
If its not clear by now that CCP isn't trying to be WOW, i.e. packaging a spoonfed product that attempts to be appealing to the absolute largest number of people, but instead has accepted its niche market appeal and doubled down on that - then I don't know what would make that more clear to someone.
EVE is the only MMO I'll play anymore. I'm tired of the MMO formula in general. EVE with its complexity, true freedom and brutality is the only MMO that even interests someone like me these days. I used to play virtually every MMO released. EVE is the one that's endured long after I stopped caring about all the others.
Eve will end someday. But soon? I seriously doubt it.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
19964
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Posted - 2017.01.05 21:08:47 -
[73] - Quote
Selene Dukat wrote:I can't believe we still get these "is Eve dying" posts after a game that has been online for over a decade. It is one of the longest running MMO in the history of MMOs. Despite ups and downs in concurrent players, it has a deeply loyal fanbase of very active players, plus a fairly large number of addicts who break and return, break and return, break and return to the game over many years.
If its not clear by now that CCP isn't trying to be WOW, i.e. packaging a spoonfed product that attempts to be appealing to the absolute largest number of people, but instead has accepted its niche market appeal and doubled down on that - then I don't know what would make that more clear to someone.
EVE is the only MMO I'll play anymore. I'm tired of the MMO formula in general. EVE with its complexity, true freedom and brutality is the only MMO that even interests someone like me these days. I used to play virtually every MMO released. EVE is the one that's endured long after I stopped caring about all the others.
Eve will end someday. But soon? I seriously doubt it.
Gully did an analysis a while back, with some graphporn to boot.
funny stuff
Murderers of Negotiable Motivations
Lords.Of.Midnight currently recruiting
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Salvos Rhoska
1889
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Posted - 2017.01.06 09:00:03 -
[74] - Quote
Ultima Online is still running.
Unfortunately since the ancient split between Trammel and Felucca, as essentially PvE and PvP shards makes comparison difficult to EVE.
For all intents and purposes, it has however seen an increase in PvE, at the expense of PvP over the years.
PvE v PvP
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Etain Darklightner Agittain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2017.01.06 10:40:02 -
[75] - Quote
I always enjoy reading the wry replies from the player base. When I logged in yesterday , before work, there was a considerable number of people online.
In the corp recruiting channel there were 600+ people advertising for various corps. Seems to me that the player base is still robust enough that there's plenty of mileage still left to go in game.
One of the posters above asked why not just enjoy it while it lasts? I'm doing just that when I get off work this morning. Played some lastnight before work, scouting out potential spots that campers typically hang out to get some solo pvp action in. I didnt get far enough into null to really find anything.
I'll be back at it again, tonight.
See you all in space!!!!! |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1376
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Posted - 2017.01.06 11:08:52 -
[76] - Quote
Iron Breaker wrote:The problem is there i really no place in EVE for casual players. The top 10% who enjoy harassing other players chase away the casual (paying) players.
Rather then spending time tinkering with the interface for the thousandth time, they need to add some layer to the game which players can use to defend them selves from griefers.
IMHO
There's still plenty of place for casual players and casual gameplay, though I concede, that there was more. I've been doing nothing else for six years now. You're just doing it wrong.
I haven't met any griefers in those six years either.
Remove standings and insurance.
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Valjan Auduin
Khushakor Clan
0
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Posted - 2017.01.06 11:18:18 -
[77] - Quote
As a newbro who has drifted in and out of interest with this game for a few days at a time for about three years, never really playing more than a week and growing quickly disinterested... Alpha and actually finding an RP community have got me so immersed in the game that I will likely be playing this for years now. Alpha clones brought me here and in 8 days of playing fairly regularly I sub'd up for 3 months and recently bought plex to jumpstart my isk. CCP did a great job with Alphas and I just wanted to give this reply to say EVE is attracting new players, I am one and I don't wish to leave this anytime soon....it's the MUD I've always wanted and I didn't realize it till now. |
LordOdysseus
HC - Salty Pigs
11649
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Posted - 2017.01.06 19:15:14 -
[78] - Quote
clickbait.
I intend to live forever, or die trying.
If fire doesn't solve the problem, you're not using enough.
I worked my way up from nothing to a state of extreme poverty.
I'm always on the winning side.
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Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative
423
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Posted - 2017.01.06 19:38:24 -
[79] - Quote
Valjan Auduin wrote:As a newbro who has drifted in and out of interest with this game for a few days at a time for about three years, never really playing more than a week and growing quickly disinterested... Alpha and actually finding an RP community have got me so immersed in the game that I will likely be playing this for years now. Alpha clones brought me here and in 8 days of playing fairly regularly I sub'd up for 3 months and recently bought plex to jumpstart my isk. CCP did a great job with Alphas and I just wanted to give this reply to say EVE is attracting new players, I am one and I don't wish to leave this anytime soon....it's the MUD I've always wanted and I didn't realize it till now.
Glad to have you.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
2689
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Posted - 2017.01.06 19:57:16 -
[80] - Quote
To be honest I was worried, but the fleet fights seem to have got fun again because the capital ship side of things is really interesting, if CCP can build on this then they will be in a good position.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato
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