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Gaogan
Gallente Solar Storm
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:12:00 -
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Seems that you can remote rep rats to use them to kill people in high sec plexes, without flagging or taking a sec hit or getting concorded. It also seems that at least some GMs think this is "a valid tactic" and suggest war decing the people doing it, or giving up and leaving the area since they are hiding behind the npc corp shield.
Does anyone else find this response unacceptable?
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Brutor Shaun
Minmatar Freelancers UK Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:17:00 -
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Yes. There needs to be some sort of time limit on staying in an NPC corp.
Even better would be a ship limit. Nothing bigger than a level 2 frigate.
Drone Love - My skills
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Kylana Darkfate
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:19:00 -
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As I've said before, CCP supports and encourages griefing of other players. Welcome to Grief Online. --------------------------------
"You see, no one would surrender to the Dread Pirate Westley." ...Well how about the Dread Pirate Kylana? ^_^ |

Rutoo
Gallente Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kylana Darkfate As I've said before, CCP supports and encourages griefing of other players. Welcome to Grief Online.
And welcome to the Eve-O Fourms, even better known as "Whine Online" _________________________________________________________ My Second EvE Video Club Seals Not Sandwichs
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RedFall
Irreligion
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Brutor Shaun Yes. There needs to be some sort of time limit on staying in an NPC corp.
Even better would be a ship limit. Nothing bigger than a level 2 frigate.
Then we would have tens of thousands of one man corps.
All the cool corp names would be taken up by them.
It seems that on Eve-Online, the modus operandi is to try to make everything fair and equal by taking away certain peoples rights and abilities, and like Heinlein said, it's always the other guys stuff that gets nerfed. Eventually someone will want to nerf something that you like.
Then Eve will be boring. It's a vicious circle.
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Alski
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:25:00 -
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Its PvP with an allmost certain distruction of the victims ship while giveing him no chance to fight back and with absoluteley no risk to the agressor.
Its an exploit.
Prove me wrong.  -
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Kylana Darkfate
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Rutoo And welcome to the Eve-O Fourms, even better known as "Whine Online"
Heh heh, that's a good one! Mind if I use it sometime too?  --------------------------------
"You see, no one would surrender to the Dread Pirate Westley." ...Well how about the Dread Pirate Kylana? ^_^ |

shivan
Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:34:00 -
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This is going to be locked for 1 of 2 reasons.
1) Discussion of a possible exploit that should be done via a pitition.
2) Discussion on GM actions. ------------------
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: shivan This is going to be locked for 1 of 2 reasons.
1) Discussion of a possible exploit that should be done via a pitition.
2) Discussion on GM actions.
1. Wrong. It's not an exploit.
2. Wrong. He didn't post communications with a GM.
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Semkhet
Saudarkars
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Alski Its PvP with an allmost certain distruction of the victims ship while giveing him no chance to fight back and with absoluteley no risk to the agressor.
Its an exploit.
Prove me wrong. 
Dude, your definition applies perfectly to jumping into a BOB, FNZ, MC, KR0M, CR or NERFT camp.
Grow up, 0% risk doesn't even exist in kindergarten 
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Alski Its PvP with an allmost certain distruction of the victims ship while giveing him no chance to fight back and with absoluteley no risk to the agressor.
Its an exploit.
Prove me wrong.
By that logic, market scamming is an exploit.
Which it isn't.
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Ralara
Caldari Lilandri Foundation
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Gaogan Seems that you can remote rep rats to use them to kill people in high sec plexes, without flagging or taking a sec hit or getting concorded. It also seems that at least some GMs think this is "a valid tactic" and suggest war decing the people doing it, or giving up and leaving the area since they are hiding behind the npc corp shield.
Does anyone else find this response unacceptable?
It's not an exploit anyway. An exploit is using a game mechanic to create an effect that was not intended. By remote repairing an NPC you are doing what the game expects: repairing your target.
Is it NICE? No. Is it an exploit? No. Should it be against the rules / made not possible to do - probably.
I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot. |

Sidster
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:50:00 -
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I would suggest that the NPC-repping tactic is an exploit because there's nothing the victim can do about it. The same cannot be said about jumping into a camp or getting scammed on the market. |

RedFall
Irreligion
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sidster I would suggest that the NPC-repping tactic is an exploit because there's nothing the victim can do about it. The same cannot be said about jumping into a camp or getting scammed on the market.
Fail.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ralara Should it be against the rules / made not possible to do - probably.
No. How about it work the same as if I repair you if you do the same to the target... flags me as an aggressor, allowing for a counter-attack.
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Kiviar
Caldari Dirty Sanchez Ltd
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Posted - 2007.04.13 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Kiviar on 13/04/2007 19:58:55
Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Ralara Should it be against the rules / made not possible to do - probably.
No. How about it work the same as if I repair you if you do the same to the target... flags me as an aggressor, allowing for a counter-attack.
That is actually not a bad idea.
One time Kiviar and Piccolo fought over who hated the moon more! |

Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.04.13 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kiviar Edited by: Kiviar on 13/04/2007 19:58:55
Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Ralara Should it be against the rules / made not possible to do - probably.
No. How about it work the same as if I repair you if you do the same to the target... flags me as an aggressor, allowing for a counter-attack.
That is actually not a bad idea.
Thanks.
Seemed to make the most sense. I mean CCP went through all the trouble to make the NPCs act more like people with repairing and EW usage, why not let their interactions with us (say, we repping THEM) be more in line with how it works with players?
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.04.13 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Gaogan Seems that you can remote rep rats to use them to kill people in high sec plexes, without flagging or taking a sec hit or getting concorded. It also seems that at least some GMs think this is "a valid tactic" and suggest war decing the people doing it, or giving up and leaving the area since they are hiding behind the npc corp shield.
Does anyone else find this response unacceptable?
Yes, ask to talk to a senior GM, who understands the flawed game mechanics and the improbability of being able to walk away if the right NPC is being repped.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Sanctuary
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Posted - 2007.04.13 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gaogan Seems that you can remote rep rats to use them to kill people in high sec plexes, without flagging or taking a sec hit or getting concorded. It also seems that at least some GMs think this is "a valid tactic" and suggest war decing the people doing it, or giving up and leaving the area since they are hiding behind the npc corp shield.
Does anyone else find this response unacceptable?
It's a crappy tactic, to be sure. A forum mod in another thread on this topic stated essentially that at this time it is not classified as an exploit, but that it's not working as intended.
I'd imagine that this is not going to be allowed to continue indefinitely.
Sanctions, embargoes and blockades- discuss PVP with ISK! |

Badhands
Gallente Gottland Production Transport Mines
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Posted - 2007.04.14 00:23:00 -
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IMO the easiest way to solve this would be to make the act of aiding someone (remote rep, tracking link, shield transfer, remote sensor booster, etc...) who is aggressing a target the same as aggressing the target.
For the record, imagine Player A and Player B are in hisec and decide to suicide gank Player C. Player A sics his drones on Player C, and player B begins remote repairing Player A, to give him a few more seconds before Concord pops him. Does Concord blast player B (the remote repairer)?
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Kick Rocks
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Posted - 2007.04.14 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Badhands IMO the easiest way to solve this would be to make the act of aiding someone (remote rep, tracking link, shield transfer, remote sensor booster, etc...) who is aggressing a target the same as aggressing the target.
For the record, imagine Player A and Player B are in hisec and decide to suicide gank Player C. Player A sics his drones on Player C, and player B begins remote repairing Player A, to give him a few more seconds before Concord pops him. Does Concord blast player B (the remote repairer)?
It already is this way for players, just does not apply to NPC's. Simplest (on paper) solution is to make this apply to NPC's as well.
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MotoTsume
Gallente Clan Black Scorpion
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Posted - 2007.04.14 00:29:00 -
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Edited by: MotoTsume on 14/04/2007 00:25:57
Originally by: Badhands IMO the easiest way to solve this would be to make the act of aiding someone (remote rep, tracking link, shield transfer, remote sensor booster, etc...) who is aggressing a target the same as aggressing the target.
For the record, imagine Player A and Player B are in hisec and decide to suicide gank Player C. Player A sics his drones on Player C, and player B begins remote repairing Player A, to give him a few more seconds before Concord pops him. Does Concord blast player B (the remote repairer)?
I a lot of other MMORPGS if you aid some one in combat you automatically get flagged as being an acceptable target by his opponent and his allies
In Lineage II infact you would be tagged as being able to be killed by anyone in the game for as long as your helping and also for about 2 min afterwards.
edit:Spelling
It's just a game........Or is it?????
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.14 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Alski Its PvP with an allmost certain distruction of the victims ship while giveing him no chance to fight back and with absoluteley no risk to the agressor.
Its an exploit.
Prove me wrong. 
To be fair, we used to do this to macroers in Genesis, back in the day. For the good of the Veldspar!
I wouldn't go so far as to call it an exploit, as much as a game mechanic that needs altering. I don't think the people doing it are to blame, just that CCP should put some thought into changing this kind of thing. --------
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.04.14 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jimer Lins It's a crappy tactic, to be sure. A forum mod in another thread on this topic stated essentially that at this time it is not classified as an exploit, but that it's not working as intended.
QFT.
Read that again folks.
An ISD guy asked a Dev straight up about this and CCP explicitly replied that this is NOT an exploit.
Personally I agree with most others and my jaw hit the floor at that one as it seems absurdly apparent that this is a loophole used to bypass in-place game mechanics but in the end an exploit is whatever CCP says and this is not one of them. A true "WTF???" moment for me when I read that and my impression of Dev decision malking abilities took a serious ding but I'm sure they couldn't give a frak about that.
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.14 02:21:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 14/04/2007 02:19:47 hmm I have some mixed emotions on this one. While on one hand it is an increadably unfair and cheap non-exploit that if you look at it in that sense probebly should be fixed. However on the other hand making isk through missions without risk in high-sec is too easy as it is "Risk v Reward" and this throws an intrestly loop-hole into the mix.
BTW, I'm also impressed with the creativeness of whoever first came up with this. Before the copycats showed up that is. ______________________
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Alski
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.14 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Alski Its PvP with an allmost certain distruction of the victims ship while giveing him no chance to fight back and with absoluteley no risk to the agressor.
Its an exploit.
Prove me wrong.
By that logic, market scamming is an exploit.
Which it isn't.
because scamming is a form of PvP?  -
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Illyria Ambri
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.14 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: MotoTsume
In Lineage II infact you would be tagged as being able to be killed by anyone in the game for as long as your helping and also for about 2 min afterwards.
edit:Spelling
And this is why buffing raid bosses and bishop % heals don't work against farmers anymore.. they are safe once again.
------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek
Happiness is a warm railgun, Love is a stocked missle launcher. Sexual extacy is watching that NME Battleship go boom.
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Dal Thrax
Caldari Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2007.04.14 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Ralara Should it be against the rules / made not possible to do - probably.
No. How about it work the same as if I repair you if you do the same to the target... flags me as an aggressor, allowing for a counter-attack.
No argument with the sentiment. The only problem is this is now how things are now. If you can't kill the repping ship without getting concorded then something is wrong.
Dal
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed. delaying startup again. soon as i have time i will fill you in on the details
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Ryan Scouse'UK
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Posted - 2007.04.14 04:26:00 -
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am sorry but whats the problem .. some guy in a high end plex in empire you say .. well thats a level 4/10 max no ? ... If the person goes inside this plex.. & ur repping just the 1 BS shall we say .. or whatever plex it might be.. Repping a Ship that is targeting the other guy surly he has a good enuff tank to ( tank the rat attacking him & such . oks he cant kill it .. but he cant die by the rat attacking him either.. so why is it such a big deal ? ...
feedback plz..
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Wendat Huron
Lupus Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.14 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ryan Scouse'UK am sorry but whats the problem .. some guy in a high end plex in empire you say .. well thats a level 4/10 max no ? ... If the person goes inside this plex.. & ur repping just the 1 BS shall we say .. or whatever plex it might be.. Repping a Ship that is targeting the other guy surly he has a good enuff tank to ( tank the rat attacking him & such . oks he cant kill it .. but he cant die by the rat attacking him either.. so why is it such a big deal ? ...
feedback plz..
Wake up and smell the coffee, they're repping the scramblers so that he cannot leave and once they respawn he's toast.
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Anna Grahm
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.14 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Ralara Should it be against the rules / made not possible to do - probably.
No. How about it work the same as if I repair you if you do the same to the target... flags me as an aggressor, allowing for a counter-attack.
Do you think this will actually solve anything? Griefers do everything they can to upset the play of other players with no risk to themselves. Witness: Jetissoning a can in highsec newbie space labelled "FREE STUFF" and blowing up the newbies who loot it. Sure, they can fight back, but they lack the means.
Your idea is good in theory but it fails there. Not only does a player have to deal with one or more NPCs (which are being repaired) but she also must deal with a griefer that is likely better outfitted (or able to easily warp away and come back in a better ship, just like ore thieves).
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.14 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ryan Scouse'UK am sorry but whats the problem .. some guy in a high end plex in empire you say .. well thats a level 4/10 max no ? ... If the person goes inside this plex.. & ur repping just the 1 BS shall we say .. or whatever plex it might be.. Repping a Ship that is targeting the other guy surly he has a good enuff tank to ( tank the rat attacking him & such . oks he cant kill it .. but he cant die by the rat attacking him either.. so why is it such a big deal ? ...
feedback plz..
First it is doing it in a COSMOS complex, so the attacckers: 1) have a high respawn rate; 2) include warp scrambling ships; 3) the maximum class ship usable are BC; 4) he can make the rats almost impossible to kill, especially in the time needed to clear the complex; 5) the rewards he get "owning" the complex are insane as it is one of the location where the invention items respawn; 6) he is in a NPC corp, so no chance to war dec him.
See more than sufficent to call it an exploit.
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Saibotek
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Posted - 2007.04.14 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Badhands IMO the easiest way to solve this would be to make the act of aiding someone (remote rep, tracking link, shield transfer, remote sensor booster, etc...) who is aggressing a target the same as aggressing the target.
For the record, imagine Player A and Player B are in hisec and decide to suicide gank Player C. Player A sics his drones on Player C, and player B begins remote repairing Player A, to give him a few more seconds before Concord pops him. Does Concord blast player B (the remote repairer)?
Haven't tried it that way . But i was in a gang with an ex-corpie and i was using shield drones on him . He shot me and concord popped him. then they popped me for aiding and abeding a know criminal and we both took a sec status hit. I petitioned and was told basically i was out of luck and the game mechanic was right. so player b will be concorded as well. This thread isn't about aiding players though. its about aiding 'plex rats. The aggressor scans your ship to see what you have in fittings. if he likes he draws agro in a crow brings it to you. an alt or another player then begins to rep the rats that you target and fire open so you are held down and as the new spawns come they target you to the point of overwhelming you. and when you pop they steal your fittings and dock and wait out the agro timer. so theres no risk and plenty of reward for the tactic. especially for those in noob corps.
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Susan Acid
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.14 12:59:00 -
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If you are in any doubt as to wether this is an exploit or not simply petition it.If this happens to you take the names of the person/persons involved and send in a petition.
Seeing as how most of the people replying here are only posting their point of view I suggest letting CCP sort it out via a petition.
Don't believe a word anyone says until you get an official response from CCP.
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MrLobster
Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.14 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Alski Its PvP with an allmost certain distruction of the victims ship while giveing him no chance to fight back and with absoluteley no risk to the agressor.
Its an exploit.
Prove me wrong.
By that logic, market scamming is an exploit.
Which it isn't.
With a market scam you can at least say no to buying the item __________________________
My sig changes once work gets boring... yes it was a slow day today. |

Motorcycle Emptiness
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.14 13:16:00 -
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as it presently stands this is such a blatant exploit, to anyone with a brain it doesn't need explaining why. Flag the lame-ass griefers (quite simply as it should be) and the cowards will run. Personally, I feel, as they are taking directly aggressive action towards you without provocation in SECURE SPACE they should simply be chill-con concorded.
Let's face it, this kind of 'PvP' is at the level of can baiting newbs.
And this is nothing like market scamming where simple alertness will get you though safe. (unless you suggest maintaining constant alignment and warping (that is if you can) out the nanosecond someone else appears...whoa, what a great game!), seriously people who yelp 'learn and adapt' at everything should learn and Foxtrot Oscar.
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Makup
Pod.
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Posted - 2007.04.14 13:25:00 -
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Why not just build something in the game mechanics so that the person doing the repairing, Gets flagged to the person getting shot at by the rats, or is shooting at the rat?
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Xtro 2
Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2007.04.14 13:34:00 -
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hardly an exploit.
seen as it can only occur in highsec, how hard is it to ask in local or corpchat for help, extras come over and toast the npc regardless of remoting.
its not rocket science here.
Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman. Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder. |

Rock Stalker
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Posted - 2007.04.14 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Susan Acid If you are in any doubt as to wether this is an exploit or not simply petition it.If this happens to you take the names of the person/persons involved and send in a petition.
Seeing as how most of the people replying here are only posting their point of view I suggest letting CCP sort it out via a petition.
Don't believe a word anyone says until you get an official response from CCP.
First I cant give you an official response from CCP. The way these forums work if I tell you what the 4 GM's including a senior GM has told me this post will get deleted and this thread locked or deleted. So you guys are just SOL. I can tell you that I got a different answer from each one (draw your own conclusions). I can also tell you that after much complaining the offenders did NOT get banned but I DID get my ship and fittings back.
Hope I didnt say to much and this thread get to continue. If I did I apologize ahead of time.
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Amy Small
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Posted - 2007.04.14 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Rock Stalker
Originally by: Susan Acid If you are in any doubt as to wether this is an exploit or not simply petition it.If this happens to you take the names of the person/persons involved and send in a petition.
Seeing as how most of the people replying here are only posting their point of view I suggest letting CCP sort it out via a petition.
Don't believe a word anyone says until you get an official response from CCP.
First I cant give you an official response from CCP. The way these forums work if I tell you what the 4 GM's including a senior GM has told me this post will get deleted and this thread locked or deleted. So you guys are just SOL. I can tell you that I got a different answer from each one (draw your own conclusions). I can also tell you that after much complaining the offenders did NOT get banned but I DID get my ship and fittings back.
Hope I didnt say to much and this thread get to continue. If I did I apologize ahead of time.
Prove it, otherwise you're just lying and causing CCP to get more petitions.
Tell me, if this is a perfectly legit tactic, according to many CCP officals, then why the hell did you get your ship back?
I hope you arn't lying, for your sakes.
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Rock Stalker
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Posted - 2007.04.14 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Amy Small
Originally by: Rock Stalker
Originally by: Susan Acid If you are in any doubt as to wether this is an exploit or not simply petition it.If this happens to you take the names of the person/persons involved and send in a petition.
Seeing as how most of the people replying here are only posting their point of view I suggest letting CCP sort it out via a petition.
Don't believe a word anyone says until you get an official response from CCP.
First I cant give you an official response from CCP. The way these forums work if I tell you what the 4 GM's including a senior GM has told me this post will get deleted and this thread locked or deleted. So you guys are just SOL. I can tell you that I got a different answer from each one (draw your own conclusions). I can also tell you that after much complaining the offenders did NOT get banned but I DID get my ship and fittings back.
Hope I didnt say to much and this thread get to continue. If I did I apologize ahead of time.
Prove it, otherwise you're just lying and causing CCP to get more petitions.
Tell me, if this is a perfectly legit tactic, according to many CCP officals, then why the hell did you get your ship back?
I hope you arn't lying, for your sakes.
Look I swear i'm not lieing, but you are just going to have to take my word for it because it is againt the rules for me to post personal convos with the GM's.For each pettion I sent I got a different response from a differnt GM. The forth one was from a senior GM. He is the one that gave me my ship and fittings back.
If you read deeper into what I am saying you will see a bigger problem then just a "possible" exploit.
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heheheh
Singularity. The Cartel.
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Posted - 2007.04.14 14:11:00 -
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Thanks to the OP, Great Idea :) Im gonna try this now seeing as though it isnt an exploit.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.04.14 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Amy Small Prove it, otherwise you're just lying and causing CCP to get more petitions.
Tell me, if this is a perfectly legit tactic, according to many CCP officals, then why the hell did you get your ship back?
I hope you arn't lying, for your sakes.
This does not "prove" anything regarding the guy getting his ship back but it does seem even though CCP has declared this is not an exploit that they may see it as "broken" and as such may be inclined to replace stuff. Below is a quote from the ISD member who asked a Dev about this...make of it what you will. This is the closest thing to an official answer on the subject I have seen:
Originally by: Deckard Bishop i have spoken with a GM and bug hunter....
at the moment this is NOT considered an exploit
however i doubt that it is working as originally intended by the devs so i am sure it will be investigated further.
if i hear anything else i will pass it on.
SOURCE: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=504422&page=3
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Luigi Thirty
Caldari FIRMA
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Posted - 2007.04.14 15:29:00 -
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Shouldn't repping a rat be like aiding a criminal and flaggable or something? ---- DOMINIX IS INVINCIBLE:(((( |

Kirov VIII
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Posted - 2007.04.14 15:47:00 -
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It's not a exploit .. You have the right to help the NPC ... (Roleplay ...) Protect NPC is a role ...
You can repair NPC, bump the player & shoot player with snowball (bump allowed, protect NPC is allowed too, snowball too ;) )
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Deckard Bishop
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.04.14 16:13:00 -
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i have already closed one of these thread. the answer i gave before is:
Quote:
i have spoken with a GM and bug hunter....
at the moment this is NOT considered an exploit
however i doubt that it is working as originally intended by the devs so i am sure it will be investigated further.
if i hear anything else i will pass it on.
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