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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2017.01.05 15:46:58 -
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Alpha Baba wrote:EVE is only good for a particular type of people. That's why this "alpha" thing won't help it so much.
And this is the shorter and much more direct version of what it took me half a page to say
I feel the same way about Alphas. If you aren't (one of) the type(s) that would like something like EVE, making it free won't help either. No amount of Free would make me like that Icelandic fermented Shark dish lol. |
Tyrana McBitch
Lisnave Spaceship Samurai
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Posted - 2017.01.05 16:00:39 -
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You need to find someone to team up with. A good alpha corporation. Or you are just to sane to play.
Insane.
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Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
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Posted - 2017.01.05 16:25:02 -
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Velisity Ellecon wrote:Researching takes way too long and I'm not paying for a game that I'm completely confused about, I thought it was a free to play but it's a "free to try" then pay for everything to make it fun.
Funny you should say that. Because even if you started out playing as a paying account, for the genuine EVE experience, you would still have to play the long game while your skill develop in real time. EVE is not as much as game but a hobby that you put time into, either in-game or out of it.
If you thought that you could get established in EVE in the four odd days that you played since you got out of the tutorial, then you really picked the wrong MMO to play in.
May I suggest you try FFXIV? It might suit your instant gratification urges and it is an actual game I like to play myself. |
Frostys Virpio
Yet another corpdot.
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Posted - 2017.01.05 16:30:49 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Alpha Baba wrote:EVE is only good for a particular type of people. That's why this "alpha" thing won't help it so much. And this is the shorter and much more direct version of what it took me half a page to say I feel the same way about Alphas. If you aren't (one of) the type(s) that would like something like EVE, making it free won't help either. No amount of Free would make me like that Icelandic fermented Shark dish lol.
The publicity and raw number of new trial might draw in some new blood but it will indeed not be a great source. The available player base seem to have been tapped by now. |
Darth Kendari
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.01.05 17:02:49 -
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EVE is what "you" make it. Try reading this short but EXCELLENT newbro guide.
It has tons of information. https://www.thealphasguide.com/ |
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.05 17:59:21 -
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I read that too in the beginning, its excellent.
Here is another great one that I have read several times:
Eve Online Exploration Guide.
The main reason you dont like this game is fear.
I had it, still have it a bit.
I miss my IS-7
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Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.05 18:16:16 -
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he won't be back. I can feel it . |
Hakawai
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.05 19:22:58 -
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There have been many eloquent explanations of why the OP is not suited to the game. It's missing the point.
OP is gone. Might there be information here that would allow CCP to make the game better, especially more likely to attract and retain new players?
I think so.
I see no such useful information in the victim-blaming. It's very well developed of course - but then again established players have been selling this negative vision for a very long time. |
Darth Kendari
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.01.05 20:09:56 -
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Hakawai wrote:There have been many eloquent explanations of why the OP is not suited to the game. It's missing the point.
OP is gone. Might there be information here that would allow CCP to make the game better, especially more likely to attract and retain new players?
I think so.
I see no such useful information in the victim-blaming. It's very well developed of course - but then again established players have been selling this negative vision for a very long time.
The game not being "better" is not the reason the OP left and to imply that seems to miss the point. It is clear by "OP" posts that he had not done the minimum in finding what gameplay was suited for him if any.
People not using easily found resources like https://www.thealphasguide.com/ or http://www.toptiertactics.com/21341/eve-online-exploration-guide-billions-and-billions-of-isk/#axzz3UC5pyC10 is not the fault of CCP.
In the end EVE was not, is not and will never be the type of game like WOW that attracts the top numbers of players of all MMO's. Attracting more players is what they are trying to do while maintaining EVE's foundation in the process. If players come here expecting EVE to adapt to them vs the other way around they should leave and that "IS" ok. |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2017.01.05 20:20:21 -
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Hakawai wrote:There have been many eloquent explanations of why the OP is not suited to the game. It's missing the point.
OP is gone. Might there be information here that would allow CCP to make the game better, especially more likely to attract and retain new players?
I think so.
I see no such useful information in the victim-blaming. It's very well developed of course - but then again established players have been selling this negative vision for a very long time.
How does a person not liking a video game make that person a "Victim" of something? If that's the case I need to sue Blizzard, because WoW victimized me years ago...
Every time I read the word "make the game better" I think "better for who". EVE is fine for people who like what it has to offer, and some dude who played for 4 days isn't going to tell CCP anything they don't know about their game that they started developing 17-18 years ago.
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mkint
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Posted - 2017.01.05 20:33:44 -
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Darth Kendari wrote:Hakawai wrote:There have been many eloquent explanations of why the OP is not suited to the game. It's missing the point.
OP is gone. Might there be information here that would allow CCP to make the game better, especially more likely to attract and retain new players?
I think so.
I see no such useful information in the victim-blaming. It's very well developed of course - but then again established players have been selling this negative vision for a very long time. The game not being "better" is not the reason the OP left and to imply that seems to miss the point. It is clear by "OP" posts that he had not done the minimum in finding what gameplay was suited for him if any. People not using easily found resources like https://www.thealphasguide.com/ or http://www.toptiertactics.com/21341/eve-online-exploration-guide-billions-and-billions-of-isk/#axzz3UC5pyC10 is not the fault of CCP. In the end EVE was not, is not and will never be the type of game like WOW that attracts the top numbers of players of all MMO's. Attracting more players is what they are trying to do while maintaining EVE's foundation in the process. If players come here expecting EVE to adapt to them vs the other way around they should leave and that "IS" ok. I disagree. I'd bet if I hadn't gotten into a player corp quickly, and if we hadn't been wardecced within the first few weeks, I probably wouldn't have stuck around for 8 years. And the fact that there are statistics on what makes a player stick around says EXACTLY that it's not just about the type of player, but the experience the player has. The problem here is that EVE's success is pretty much just a matter of luck. The devs get lucky if a player randomly stumbles on the things that make them stick around. There are no tools that drive players to the valued experiences, and that's a failure on CCP's part. Does the UI have to be bad for people to like EVE? Hell. No. Does the most important information to play have to be buried in order for people to enjoy EVE? Hell. No.
And this is where EVE players are so toxic. Just because YOU happened to stumble randomly onto the parts of EVE that are fun, does not make you a special butterfly. The fact that you play a video game (a VIDEO GAME!) is not a reason for self esteem, and does not make you better than anyone else. And the fact that you got lucky in finding the good stuff doesn't mean the game doesn't need development to the player engagement hooks to have a hope of longevity.
Maxim 6. If violence wasnGÇÖt your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
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