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Gamesguy Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.16 21:47:00 - [1] Originally by: korrey Haha 20 second cap recharge time on a titan...I would like someone to show me these STACKED figures. Unless of course you forgot to add in your stacking penalty on your mods. And even if it was possible to get a Titan to cap recharge in 20 seconds...what does it matter lol. You guys are all arguing uselessly. Are you an idiot? There is no stacking penalty on cap recharge modules. Quote: If you fit it to recharge in 20 sec then you probably used all your slots..meaning? No one would do it and its pointless. I can get a ferox to field a Mega Pulse Laser II...does this mean im amazing and should be nerfed? Or does this mean no one gives a flip? What good is a ferox with a mega pulse on it? The titan with the all cap recharge mods can never be killed and can kill an entire support fleet once an hour. Your mega pulse ferox can do what? Quote: I can get a zealot to fly 25km/s, does this mean it should be nerfed, or does this mean I was bored and came up with a completely useless setup that will help me nil in a combat engagement?... my word people.. The 25km/sec zealot cant actually reach that speed without prepositioned logistics ships to cap boost it, and last I checked it cant kill a fleet of BS every hour.
Gamesguy Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.17 00:36:00 - [2] Originally by: welsh wizard The simple fact is capital ships can act alone if you stick enough of them together (exception being cyno ships), I'm not sure this is as CCP intended. The great ships of the past were lost without their support fleet, the aircraft carriers were sitting ducks without a frigate & destroyer screen as were battleships. Capital ships in Eve can operate with a little too much impunity, especially super capitals. So in summary I think many players miss the intense battleship fleet fights that decided who controlled the surrounding space. Now capital ships have to be employed and the kicker is, battleships don't. I can't believe there isn't an imposed limit on super capitals in an alliance tbh. I mean it really isn't going to be long before the major alliances are fielding 10 titans and 20 motherships. Who needs a support fleet with that sort of firepower? No-one. edit: Should have read Reto's post above before I posted. That's pretty much the nail on the head tbh. Some nifty ideas for sovereignty control aswell. Agreed. A temporary fix I suggested earlier was implementing static POS reinforcement times. IE you get say 3 options for how long a pos is in reinforcement(and you have to have enough fuel to cover the option you choose). Say 1 hour, 1 day, and 3 days reinforcement options. That way putting multiple POSes into reinforced at simultaneously actually has an effect.
Gamesguy Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.17 01:11:00 - [3] Originally by: korrey Did you totally misread what I said? What I pointed out was that if you can get a Cap ship to recharge in 20 seconds...good for you. You will have no tank and no one will actually fit it like so. Meaning the argument is useless. Except its not? Why would a titan need a tank? It has a negligible contribution to the front line, a dread does way more damage than a titan. The titan is only good for the jump bridge and the DD, both of which require massive amounts of cap but no tank. A titan is essentially invulnerable if it fitted all cap mods because it can just cyno out whenever its in danger. Quote: With the zealot, yes again I pointed out that it will do no good that it can fly fast. Again pointing out that a cap recharged titan is pointless. How is a cap recharged titan pointless? It fulfills all the functions of the titan and gives it virtual immunity to being destroyed. While the 25km/sec zealot is comepletely pointless and cannot do any of the things a standard fit zealot can. What did you think the titan's role was? Actually use its guns? When a cheap dread does more than twice as much damage? Quote: And point number 3 I forgot to mention: Any pilot with a competent tank can tank a DD in a battleship. Smaller ships? No, but you have a quarter of a minute to warp out, easily enough time. False. A standard fleet setup basically means ships like the geddon will have to sacrafice a lot of damage to tank a DD. In addition you aint gonna be supporting your dread fleet after that DD, which means the side that has the titan can bring in their own support fleet and wipe out your dreads. Lag means you cant warp out most of the time.
Gamesguy Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.17 01:24:00 - [4] Originally by: korrey If a titan has no tank, it will die eventually. Much quicker than a tanked titan. So lets see...15km inties bumping titans from warping + no tank = ... =titan cynos out. Do you not know how to read?
Gamesguy Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.17 02:13:00 - [5] Originally by: korrey Originally by: Gamesguy Originally by: korrey If a titan has no tank, it will die eventually. Much quicker than a tanked titan. So lets see...15km inties bumping titans from warping + no tank = ... =titan cynos out. Do you not know how to read? I bolded and underlined the part you missed. You do know you can bump the ship out of warp with a few fast inties right?.. I bolded and underlined the part you missed. You do know that cynoing has nothing to do with warping right?
Gamesguy Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.17 02:35:00 - [6] Edited by: Gamesguy on 17/04/2007 02:32:04 Originally by: MasterDecoy no, but warp scrambling does, oh, wait... would inties even be able to bump it is what i want to know as i was under the impression that only bigger things (nano[minnie dread] whatchamacallit) could possibly hope to bump it out of alignment? plus, where the **** are you gonna find many 15k inties anyways? You cant bump a capital with anything less than a battleship, and even with battleships its hard(the carrier/dread moves like 5 degrees off alignment at the most). With a supercapital? The official dev response is you need a pair of nano naglfars, too bad nanos were nerfed into oblivion since that comment...

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