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thatonepersone Son's of Plunder Panic Attack. 41	Posted - 2017.01.14 23:01:52 - [1] - Quote I was on facebook and one of the people i play with in game is on my recommended friends list. We have never communicated out side of eve, we have no mutual friends and in team speak we have only used his first name. The only reason i know its him for sure is because he has a picture uploaded in team speak. Anybody else see a problem with this?
Akali Mid Aliastra Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2017.01.14 23:03:43 - [2] - Quote Youre the one that sees a "problem" with it.. care to elaborate what are you trying to say here? What is the purpose of this thread?
thatonepersone Son's of Plunder Panic Attack. 41	Posted - 2017.01.14 23:10:07 - [3] - Quote I am asking if anybody else thinks facebook shouldnt be going that deep into our eve stuff. If a player was doing this to see which players where talking to each other with out there consent, and to see who the players where in real life, it would be a problem. Im asking what other people think about it.
Hir Miriel Elves In Space 273	Posted - 2017.01.14 23:12:08 - [4] - Quote Facebook is using the EVE social network to grow its own social network, by plundering the information in your computer. Facebook also does it by checking out what you type in messages to others, you can test that by mentioning a product in a private message and then seeing the Facebook ads pop up. Apart from the problem of privacy, which most people don't really care about now, there is the problem of Facebook coming between players and EVE. Inserting itself as a middleman. Which has implications for CCP. Myself I'd prefer CCP to consider the social network of EVE as part of the game, rather than a job that's best farmed out to Twitter, Facebook and the other loonies. However it is what it is, and we can't really tell where all this will end up, maybe it will be okay. ~ ~~ Thinking inside Schrodinger's sandbox. ~~ ~
Avaelica Kuershin Paper Cats 302	Posted - 2017.01.14 23:16:42 - [5] - Quote thatonepersone wrote: I was on facebook and one of the people i play with in game is on my recommended friends list. We have never communicated out side of eve, we have no mutual friends and in team speak we have only used his first name. The only reason i know its him for sure is because he has a picture uploaded in team speak. Anybody else see a problem with this? If you mean with Facebook datamining everything then possibly. If the person you play with is in your corp I can see how the datamining occurs.
Lulu Lunette Savage Moon Society 1082	Posted - 2017.01.14 23:18:19 - [6] - Quote Noticed a similar trend myself and separated all RL connections to Eve Online. @lunettelulu7
Rroff Antagonistic Tendencies 1042	Posted - 2017.01.14 23:28:47 - [7] - Quote "Supposedly" doesn't show people who search for you in people you might know - some rumors that it does if you both search for each other but maybe he searched for you and that is how it happened. Over Christmas I was sitting by some girl at a party - didn't know her, we have no friends in common, etc. I didn't search for her on FB - 2 days after she starts showing in my people you might know list. Its also started showing people recently that I worked with years ago before the internet was really a thing - who again I have absolutely no links to :s
Kenneth Endashi Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 109	Posted - 2017.01.14 23:59:31 - [8] - Quote thatonepersone wrote: I am asking if anybody else thinks facebook shouldnt be going that deep into our eve stuff. If a player was doing this to see which players where talking to each other with out there consent, and to see who the players where in real life, it would be a problem. Im asking what other people think about it. i agree. moreover eve as a closed system is partly the product. there are boundaries in eve vastly different from other social systems. any facebook telemetry thru eve disrespects that tradition, interferes with gameplay and violates basic game rules, as youve said, and you didnt consent to it either but lets not get into that because what fb data sharing does to eve as a product and society is paramount in the issue youve raised.
Kenneth Endashi Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 109	Posted - 2017.01.15 00:06:37 - [9] - Quote thatonepersone wrote: I am asking if anybody else thinks facebook shouldnt be going that deep into our eve stuff. If a player was doing this to see which players where talking to each other with out there consent, and to see who the players where in real life, it would be a problem. Im asking what other people think about it. i agree. moreover eve as a closed system is partly the product. there are boundaries in eve vastly different from other social systems. any facebook telemetry thru eve disrespects that traditional pseudo-anonymity, interferes with gameplay because much of eve is played offline but on your terms. popping up in facebook breaks immersion, and violates basic game rules, as youve said, and you didnt consent to it either but lets not get into that because how fb data sharing affects eve as a product, gaming experience, and society is paramount to the issue youve raised.
Demonspawn 666 The Dirty Rejects ChaosTheory. 226	Posted - 2017.01.15 00:23:31 - [10] - Quote Delete Facebook.... problem solved! Is it really important that you keep up to date with the antics of peoples cats, dogs, hamsters and their dietary intake? I hate facebook. The Dirty Rejects are recruiting! Come play with me...... I like being played with!

Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 1391	Posted - 2017.01.15 00:43:22 - [11] - Quote Facebook is probably one of the most despicable applications on the internet. Just stop using it. Remove standings and insurance.
Sobaan Tali Caldari Quick Reaction Force 1116	Posted - 2017.01.15 01:02:26 - [12] - Quote I thought that title went to Origin. Granted, Facebook would likely be a pretty close second in that case anyways. "Tomahawks?" "----in' A, right?" "Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each." "----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Kousaka Otsu Shigure 73	Posted - 2017.01.15 06:18:24 - [13] - Quote I did a 'social suicide' back in Jan. 2009 I think.. things that tipped me off: -login to YYYY by using your google/facebook account --- WTH is my account from another site, being connected to my YYYY account? -help us help you recover your account by adding your phone number.. -browser geolocating features -etc,etc. T'was hard explaining it in job interviews though, I got thru by telling some bullshit like "I didn't need to use it 'cause the people important to me, I speak to them face to face whenever possible." Quote: I didn't search for her on FB - 2 days after she starts showing in my people you might know list. You were probably seen in a picture together and/or was 'tagged' and/or was mentioned you were in the said occasion. Have you seen those kiddy facial makeup/mask apps on phones nowadays? Their ability to track facial features is.. disturbing. adjusts tinfoil hat Quote: Facebook is using the EVE social network to grow its own social network, by plundering the information in your computer. You know that Like button? People have been farming them, and will be doing so for years to come. adjusts Hir Miriel's tinfoil hat Quote: Delete Facebook.... problem solved! Your data is still on the servers. And they are using it as well, without you knowing. Ignorance is Bliss, I guess. Oh I remember an early article about one guy requesting all the data about his account in the FB servers to be sent to him, after he deleted his account. He received it in cdroms or dvdroms, via mail. It's all 'public data' for these people. I've even seen nullsec players here in eve do these 'public data analysis' to smoke out spais in their midst. Archiver, Software Developer and Data Slave Current Project Status: Harvesting Killboards
Yebo Lakatosh Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance 16	Posted - 2017.01.15 06:36:09 - [14] - Quote Demonspawn 666 wrote: I hate facebook. That. I only ever touched it when someone forced me with a gun.. or with a business offer. Now I have one more reason for that.
Rroff Antagonistic Tendencies 1042	Posted - 2017.01.15 10:49:42 - [15] - Quote Kousaka Otsu Shigure wrote: You were probably seen in a picture together and/or was 'tagged' and/or was mentioned you were in the said occasion. Have you seen those kiddy facial makeup/mask apps on phones nowadays? Their ability to track facial features is.. disturbing. I'm fairly sure none of that explains it here, would take a boringly long post to explain why. Also even assuming it was the case there were several other people who would ostensibly fit the same parameters who have never shown in the list that I have noticed.
Gwenaelle de Ardevon Ordum Eternam 5671	Posted - 2017.01.15 10:57:42 - [16] - Quote There is an better life without Fakebook. Nobody needs the asocial media... «An hour sitting with a pretty girl on a park bench passes like a minute, but a minute sitting on a hot stove seems like an hour». Albert Einstein - [11, S. 154] More Quotes, Poetry & Prose on: https://gwenaelledeardevon.wordpress.com/
Rroff Antagonistic Tendencies 1042	Posted - 2017.01.15 11:57:37 - [17] - Quote ^^ Like eve social media is largely what you make of it - for the most part there are mechanisms to hide the spam, etc. I largely use it to keep up with close family/relatives who are now a bit spread out and organising work events, etc. and pretty much everything else is blocked.
Neuntausend Rens Nursing Home 1349	Posted - 2017.01.15 12:20:40 - [18] - Quote Facebook is very creepy, which is why I don't use it. A couple years back my friends almost managed to drag me into it, but I had a similar experience to OP: It immediately knew who my friends were, and even listed a couple of people from school who I had not been in contact with for 10 or so years, even through I told it pretty much nothing about me. I immediately closed the account, installed DoNotTrackMe and never touched anything that said "Facebook" on it ever again.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 27338	Posted - 2017.01.15 14:12:37 - [19] - Quote Facebook is all about making information and data about their users, real or otherwise, work for them. Other companies also put the data that Facebook makes publicly available to work, for themselves. Why is the OP surprised by this? In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Khan Wrenth Ore Oppression Prevention and Salvation 743	Posted - 2017.01.15 14:13:11 - [20] - Quote Neuntausend wrote: Facebook is very creepy, which is why I don't use it. A couple years back my friends almost managed to drag me into it, but I had a similar experience to OP: It immediately knew who my friends were, and even listed a couple of people from school who I had not been in contact with for 10 or so years, even through I told it pretty much nothing about me. I immediately closed the account, installed DoNotTrackMe and never touched anything that said "Facebook" on it ever again. Almost my exact experience. Except I did not know of "DoNotTrackMe", otherwise this is my story verbatim. Look, FaceBook as an entity violates the rules of common sense that were established back when the internet really started to become an everyday consumer product instead of a niche thing rich folks tinkered with - you never put your name out there. Never. Never. Of course there's services that require it (like online banking), but there's a difference between having your name publicly visible on some fad site and your private communications between yourself and your credit card company. It's not just that Facebook wants your name (which I know is the LEAST of the concerns, but I'm going for a different point). It's that they absolutely demand it. Back when chat rooms were a thing, I had several accounts with different chat programs. Yahoo, AOL, ICQ, mIRC, etc. And I had different handles and passwords for all of them. None of them needed a "name", and if they did, any random splurge of letters sufficed for them. When I tried that with facebook, it refused; citing that what I typed "was not a real name". My thoughts were, "Well no s* Sherlock, you're not getting my real name!". Some back and forth ensued with Facebook demanding a real name until I gave them a random real name. Nobody on the internet, save for financial transactions, needs your real name. If they demand it, it's a scam. Facebook is insidious in how it manipulates people via positive reinforcement to divulge information on their friends, family, etc. I have a bunch of relatives that use Facebook and I guarantee you that there is s*tons of information about me that they share without my consent, because we don't live in a world anymore where people respect other people's privacy. Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.

King Aires POS Party Ember Sands 195	Posted - 2017.01.15 14:49:30 - [21] - Quote CCP is partners with Oculus Rift Oculus Rift is owned by Facebook Facebook has your Eve meta data CCP owns Eve ...Doesn't take much of a leap to assume
Akane Togenada Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 20	Posted - 2017.01.15 14:59:00 - [22] - Quote I contantly get all sort of weird suggestions fr+Ñn Facebook when it comes to who I'm supposed to be friend with or not. I just choose to ignore that function.
Linus Gorp Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker 640	Posted - 2017.01.15 15:21:54 - [23] - Quote If you really care about your privacy, stop using any service that is free, stop using social media, remove any and all Microsoft software, remove and stop using Google, Yahoo and all that other crap. Use duckduckgo as your default search engine, use either a paid email hoster that provably cares about your privacy and won't violate it or host a mail server yourself, use pgp whenever possible, absolutely use Tor and when it comes to the Tor browser or Firefox (it looks reasonably okay with the Classic Theme Restorer plugin and some tweaking), the add-ons you defintely want installed are uBlock Origin (take a look at AdNauseam), Cookie Monster (for easier cookie management, as your default policy should be to deny any and all cookies), NoScript and EFF's Privacy Badger. That should get you started. When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Josef Djugashvilis 3519	Posted - 2017.01.15 15:25:30 - [24] - Quote The real problem is Facebook itself. This is not a signature.
Dibz Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 167	Posted - 2017.01.15 17:07:36 - [25] - Quote Facebook is weird. Recently it suggested one of my neighbours as a Facebook 'friend', despite me never having interacted with them at all other than a brief hello in the hallway.
Eternus8lux8lucis Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 1195	Posted - 2017.01.15 18:11:02 - [26] - Quote You realize that the mutual friends thing is whats the most likely algorithm issue here. You dont know them but Facebook knows both you and them play or have mentioned "Eve Online" in posts, messages, etc. They are likely a friend of a friend, or even a friend of a friend of a friend, but still close enough that YOU do not know each other personally. Same as the guy who met the girl at the party. You are both at the same party and therefore know the same mutual people. This is a normal occurrence and is most evident pop culturally by the "7 degrees of Bacon" game which was a play on the social psych experiment of the 70s I believe. Forget the name of the experiment. But Facebook is simply exploiting this mutual friends issue for datamining and ad placement and making a fortune off it. Have you heard anything I've said? You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right? That's right. Had to end sometime.
Salvos Rhoska 1945	Posted - 2017.01.15 18:30:29 - [27] - Quote Im getting peripheral EVE advertising on a lot of sites I frequent, so the metadata issue is far larger than just Facebook. The inherit stupidity in this is that I am already an EVE player, so the ads are wasted on me. As to Facebook, Twitter, Google and other metadata accumulators, this is a real problem. I have doxxed a lot of people (but never in EVE!), to find out who I am dealing with. Its more often than not ridiculously easy to follow a few trails and heuristically combine them. People are usually terribly bad at covering their own tracks. If I can do that, there is no telling what organizations with far more data and resources than I have can do. The accumulation of data that various internet service providers have garnered off us WILL, mark my words, be a seminal issue in our lifetime. PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
ValentineMichael Smith Farnham's Freehold 8	Posted - 2017.01.15 21:13:40 - [28] - Quote Hir Miriel wrote: ...Apart from the problem of privacy, which most people don't really care about now, there is the problem of Facebook coming between players and EVE. Inserting itself as a middleman. Which has implications for CCP..... MOST people don't care about privacy now? I dissagree. It would be very foolish to not care about our dwindling privacy. Yes I have a big problem with FB knowing who I talk to in a game that is completely unrelated to FB. Is it possible that this other person ever did a search for you on FB, and that's how FB knows you are associated? And Salvos, I agree with your last line very much.
Sarah Flynt Federation Interstellar Resources Silent Infinity 264	Posted - 2017.01.15 21:25:30 - [29] - Quote ValentineMichael Smith wrote: Hir Miriel wrote: ...Apart from the problem of privacy, which most people don't really care about now, there is the problem of Facebook coming between players and EVE. Inserting itself as a middleman. Which has implications for CCP..... MOST people don't care about privacy now? I dissagree. It would be very foolish to not care about our dwindling privacy. If they were, they wouldn't be using FB. Sick of High-Sec gankers? Join the public channel Anti-ganking and the dedicated intel channel Gank-Intel !
Linus Gorp Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker 659	Posted - 2017.01.15 21:27:09 - [30] - Quote ValentineMichael Smith wrote: Hir Miriel wrote: ...Apart from the problem of privacy, which most people don't really care about now, there is the problem of Facebook coming between players and EVE. Inserting itself as a middleman. Which has implications for CCP..... MOST people don't care about privacy now? I dissagree. It would be very foolish to not care about our dwindling privacy. Yes I have a big problem with FB knowing who I talk to in a game that is completely unrelated to FB. Is it possible that this other person ever did a search for you on FB, and that's how FB knows you are associated? And Salvos, I agree with your last line very much. Do you even know what's going on out there? It's true that a great many people really do not care about their privacy. Just look at all those Android and iOS smartphones. WhatsApp has over a billion users, don't they? How many people do you know that actually think about what data is constantly collected about them and how that data is used? The most common answer I get to that question is that the person I asked simply does not care. Since you're using Facebook, it's obvious that you don't care either, so don't act all surprised now about having no privacy. When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.



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