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Hannobaal Gallente Utopian Frontier	Posted - 2007.04.21 11:47:00 - [61] Originally by: Sweet Remembrance25 Edited by: Sweet Remembrance25 on 21/04/2007 04:29:40 Ok, just to clear it all up with you nubs out there STILL posting when you know nothing abouts POS's, You CAN NOT touch anything inside the POS (exception of the previously mentioned capital move) until the shield is blown, and that has 20 MILLION hp. So unless you have a massive collection of dreads you ARE NOT going to drop a pos. In which case you're going to get bored IF we dont pawn ur noob dread fleet first. Oh btw, just an update for Indigo's attempt (and the comment on tanking a POS with one cruiser because of the sig. or anything smaller) Indigo decided to be smart and pop in with a claw... yeah that was a nice kill mail... P.S. Im so sick of nubs... ' Don't need dreads. A fleet of 10 battleships could take it down with ease if they have the right equipment. Your POS just doesn't have any firepower to protect itself. 3 Cruise Missile Batteries (thanks to their incredibly slow firing rate) have a whopping total of 37.5 in dps. And yeah, a cruiser can tank that, not because of sig radius but because the pos defenses dps is crap. ------------------ "If you ever need anything, please don't Hesitate to ask someone else first."
William DeMeo Gallente Serial Killers Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.21 11:50:00 - [62] Originally by: Sweet Remembrance25 Ok i read some of the peoples replies to this thread and you all honestly dont do your research do you? 1 dread wont do it, 30 bs wont do it, and if by some miracle you manage to get enough dreads together we will take them as a snack and enjoy looting and salvaging the wrecks. Im not a carebear nor is anyone else in my corp, i will make a bowl out of ur skull and eat your liver out of it. Do your research nubs. LOL is that your POS? I don't think I've ever heard of such a poorly setup med pos ever tbh. A BS gang with alot of time on their hands could take it out. Yarr
Lynae Caldari	Posted - 2007.04.21 12:27:00 - [63] Originally by: Jex Jast Originally by: Kirex lol someone needs to pwn this pos. QFT QFT again. Please destroy this POS. ___ Originally by: Dark Shikari They're protected by shuttles carrying Templars, Amarr fighter drones used by carriers, but their tanks aren't that strong.
Nyck Not Your Common Killers	Posted - 2007.04.21 13:22:00 - [64] Edited by: Nyck on 21/04/2007 13:19:21 Originally by: Opiboble Inte I dont know if you guys are smart enogh to know this but Spamming a POS with ships and making it shoot at you does not make it burn more fuel. A POS burns the same amount of fuel allways unless you add a structer (takes up more Liquid Ozone and Heavy Water) or take one down (burns less) Also for you fools out there who think you can snipe a POS down in a BS I will tell you this. It take a fleet of 8 Dreds 4 hours to take down a Medium POS. Now even if you where to jump in 16 BS it would take 18+ hours... And Me being the person who sent in the Petition about the Spaming of the POS- Indigo if you are found dieing more then 3 times in one 24 hours period by the POS you will find your self banned. So have fun with this stupid thread. I've petitioned one of your corp mate several times for some disparaging remarks, and he still lives. Please, oh please stop making false threats. I see no reason to turn this into flames on the forums. Please keep it in local? I guess? Oh, and, wow. 3 pages before I actually see the thread. I'm slipping. *edited for spelling (I'm so anal)
Lazarann Caldari Ideal Machine THE R0NIN	Posted - 2007.04.21 16:08:00 - [65] Originally by: Nyck *edited for spelling (I'm so anal) Waits for the flame-joke.....
Liang Nuren Red 42 CORE.	Posted - 2007.04.21 16:57:00 - [66] Originally by: Lazarann Originally by: Nyck *edited for spelling (I'm so anal) Waits for the flame-joke..... insert flame-joke here
Hypatia Iola Caldari Central Defiance	Posted - 2007.04.21 17:14:00 - [67] Edited by: Hypatia Iola on 21/04/2007 17:15:41 Edited by: Hypatia Iola on 21/04/2007 17:15:13 Edited by: Hypatia Iola on 21/04/2007 17:11:39 dear god in heaven these guys are asshats! indigo i can't really pull squat into this but i'll grab anyone i can next week to help you out. by the way, screw blowing up the POS, just pod these guys into the stone age! it's easier, faster, more damaging (especially if you can catch them before they reup a clone) and wouldn't take a dread. oh if only i had cash to throw at this stuff... anyway seriously someone with a locator agent post these guys locations, I'll drop in 5 mil a corpse of the two asshats who posted here to a max of 30 mil(hey i'm not made of money) others should buy them too (heh) edit P.S. i won't be on next week, so y'all have time to find 'em and gank-em taking 6 corpses! get them with implants if you can! edit 2, and yeah i know my pay ain't fantastic but this is a labor of love too... you get to feel good about the ISK you make for once! or if you already feel good you get to be the good guy! I represent only my own views, they just happen to be the right ones.
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.04.21 17:58:00 - [68] Edited by: DubanFP on 21/04/2007 17:54:11 Why not fit more WCS then the PoS can scram you for. If it's the short range warp scram you can warp in outside it's range, if it's the long range warp scram you can easily fit a few WCS and warp off. Basically go in at the maximum range, once the launchers fire at you a few times warp off before they arrive. Repeat as nessessary, and devs probebly won't yell at you for all the killmails since there won't be any actual killmails. ______________________ Interested?
Indigo Emerald	Posted - 2007.04.21 19:04:00 - [69] This is what i deal with everyday in Maalna. "go to your f*ing corner c*" that is a quote from sweet rememberance25. I am trying my best to run them off, my ceo and myself have popped 5 of there ships and podded 3 of there members. we have other conflicts in and around maalna though, we just think that if this POS can be brought down it would be a victory for all of eve pirates every where. Hopefully that would send a message to this corp that no one will stand for there immature smack talk and there smug blobbing fantasies of superiority. I can tell everyone hear that I do not know a lot about POS but i agree this is a bad set up and they need to know they do not know every thing about POSs Again thank u all for being supportive and helpful in this forum it really means a lot to me
William DeMeo Gallente Serial Killers Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.21 19:10:00 - [70] You have my Vexor indigo! Seriously, send me an evemail. I want to help yuo people out Yarr
Babel Matrix Gallente ZiTek	Posted - 2007.04.21 20:14:00 - [71] Originally by: Jex Jast True but I think they had an issue with the fact that he wasn't attacking to do damage, just to get it to go into reinforced mode. Thus, potential exploit. If BoB having all of its members warping into a system all at once to lag out their enemies within said system isn't going to get whacked by CCP, why would this?
Hannobaal Gallente Utopian Frontier	Posted - 2007.04.21 20:36:00 - [72] A pos doesn't go into reinforced mode just because a ship shows up. It goes into reinforced mode once its shield has been brought down to a certain level, and that's only if it has Strontium Clathrates stored. ------------------ "If you ever need anything, please don't Hesitate to ask someone else first."
PCaBoo Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.21 21:40:00 - [73] Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 21/04/2007 17:54:11 Why not fit more WCS then the PoS can scram you for. If it's the short range warp scram you can warp in outside it's range, if it's the long range warp scram you can easily fit a few WCS and warp off. Basically go in at the maximum range, once the launchers fire at you a few times warp off before they arrive. Repeat as nessessary, and devs probebly won't yell at you for all the killmails since there won't be any actual killmails. short range is 75km @ +6, long range is 150km @ +3. I don't know the exact numbers, but with even 3 stabs on, you're not gonna be locking from very far. ________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people!
Guntaro	Posted - 2007.04.21 21:46:00 - [74] Edited by: Guntaro on 21/04/2007 22:02:02 What's really sad here is the amount of missinformation and lack of basic knowledge concerning POS from so many players. Is there any detailed guides or stickys to POS available for players to learn from? And I don't mean the old basic sticky guide that while good doesn't really go into combat all that much. Can anyone provide a linkage to something more relevent?
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.04.21 22:11:00 - [75] Originally by: Babel Matrix Originally by: Jex Jast True but I think they had an issue with the fact that he wasn't attacking to do damage, just to get it to go into reinforced mode. Thus, potential exploit. If BoB having all of its members warping into a system all at once to lag out their enemies within said system isn't going to get whacked by CCP, why would this? Cause they're BoB, and these guys are not. I'm going to check how far away this sytem is when I next log on...I have a hankering for some ceptoring without worrying about INFOD/EST/5thc/NMTZ around every corner...and haulers sound like a good target. -----
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.04.21 22:17:00 - [76] The guide to POSs Ok what this thread needs is a few answers. Does shooting a pos cost Fuel? No Does going to a hostile pos cost ammo? Yes(except lasers) Can Turrets be unloaded? Yes when they run out of ammo they will cease fire. How do i cost them more fuel? Force the POS into reinforced mode by taking the shields down to almost nothing. Is this greifing? Yes Is it allowed? yes, but only if you do it without using noobships. ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.04.21 22:44:00 - [77] Originally by: Lithalnas Is it allowed? yes, but only if you do it without using noobships. Supposing noob ships were a tactical addition to a dread fleet...you know, for fighting off any resistance fleet that arrived... -----
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.04.21 23:10:00 - [78] Originally by: Jex Jast Originally by: Lithalnas Is it allowed? yes, but only if you do it without using noobships. Supposing noob ships were a tactical addition to a dread fleet...you know, for fighting off any resistance fleet that arrived... gess i ned to revise that Originally by: Lithalnas Is it allowed? yes, but only if you do it without using noobships. Unless you have 100 man noobship swarm. ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
Nyck Not Your Common Killers	Posted - 2007.04.21 23:12:00 - [79] Originally by: Lazarann Originally by: Nyck *edited for spelling (I'm so anal) Waits for the flame-joke..... Thanx Laz. Good to know I can still count on you.
Indigo Emerald	Posted - 2007.04.22 02:18:00 - [80] i have pretty much left there POS alone. i have been in NYCK corp for about 20 days now and have went from being a nooby pirate to learning some great skills(as u can see by the -4.3). i just thought it would be a great idea if there POS comes down. i am still trying to figure out the best ways to pop AOMIs member, so taking down the POS i think is beyond me at the moment but feel free to shut these people up on here and in game i think it would be in the best interest of everyone on EVE. i would like to believe if there POS gets blown up they r going to get out of my home because it has pretty much happened to the members we have podded
Lazarann Caldari Ideal Machine THE R0NIN	Posted - 2007.04.22 05:37:00 - [81] Originally by: Nyck Originally by: Lazarann Originally by: Nyck *edited for spelling (I'm so anal) Waits for the flame-joke..... Thanx Laz. Good to know I can still count on you. Always glad to help you guys out, on and off the forums.
Chasm Illyaki	Posted - 2007.04.22 11:37:00 - [82] i like the shuttle idea personally, or you could hire mercs. i know you are a pirate corp, but when you are the little guy, you do what you have to. you just need to keep them out of the system long enough to run it out of fuel. i was in an alliance (shadow order) that every day you logged on, you were on task to shoot this one alliance to keep them out of that system. after about 3 weeks, it was time to kiss their station good bye.
Mr Stargate Caldari Demonic Retribution	Posted - 2007.04.22 20:46:00 - [83] Edited by: Mr Stargate on 22/04/2007 20:47:37 Originally by: Opiboble Inte I dont know if you guys are smart enogh to know this but Spamming a POS with ships and making it shoot at you does not make it burn more fuel. A POS burns the same amount of fuel allways unless you add a structer (takes up more Liquid Ozone and Heavy Water) or take one down (burns less) Also for you fools out there who think you can snipe a POS down in a BS I will tell you this. It take a fleet of 8 Dreds 4 hours to take down a Medium POS. Now even if you where to jump in 16 BS it would take 18+ hours... And Me being the person who sent in the Petition about the Spaming of the POS- Indigo if you are found dieing more then 3 times in one 24 hours period by the POS you will find your self banned. So have fun with this stupid thread. wth? 4 hours to take out a MEDIUM POS? What, you guys did not use siege mode and only used 1 gun each? a LARGE Tower + Shield Hardners can go down in under an hour with that number of dreads. Trust me, I've blown up a lot of large deathstars. edit: And probably 10 battleships with 1 or 2 armor plates can easily blow that medium, unhardened, 3 cruise missile POS. The missiles will cycle, you will only get 1 volley every 15mins or so, depending on how many ppl in your gang. Probably can blow it up in 2 hours. Originally by: Sweet Remembrance25 Ok i read some of the peoples replies to this thread and you all honestly dont do your research do you? 1 dread wont do it, 30 bs wont do it, and if by some miracle you manage to get enough dreads together we will take them as a snack and enjoy looting and salvaging the wrecks. Im not a carebear nor is anyone else in my corp, i will make a bowl out of ur skull and eat your liver out of it. Do your research nubs. Obviously, this guy never seen a POS or ever attacked one, he has no idea what he is talking about ------------------------ /me needs a new sig ------------------------
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.04.22 23:26:00 - [84] Originally by: Opiboble Inte I dont know if you guys are smart enogh to know this but Spamming a POS with ships and making it shoot at you does not make it burn more fuel. A POS burns the same amount of fuel allways unless you add a structer (takes up more Liquid Ozone and Heavy Water) or take one down (burns less) Also for you fools out there who think you can snipe a POS down in a BS I will tell you this. It take a fleet of 8 Dreds 4 hours to take down a Medium POS. Now even if you where to jump in 16 BS it would take 18+ hours... And Me being the person who sent in the Petition about the Spaming of the POS- Indigo if you are found dieing more then 3 times in one 24 hours period by the POS you will find your self banned. So have fun with this stupid thread. because it's illegal for a so-called "nub" to keep trying different ships and tactics to attack a pos located at Maalna VI moon 11? or, are you lying? why would a gm tell you "hey if she keeps attacking you and dying, we'll ban her". please tell me it's not cuz of your alliance affiliation. actually, please tell me it is.
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.04.23 00:22:00 - [85] Im debating if i should open a chat channel to help this along, a place that pirates can come around and figure out what to do about pilots/corps who have a chip on their shoulders. Maalna VI moon 11 interesting... ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
Devian 666 Ocean Dynamics Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.23 03:26:00 - [86] Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd Originally by: Opiboble Inte I dont know if you guys are smart enogh to know this but Spamming a POS with ships and making it shoot at you does not make it burn more fuel. A POS burns the same amount of fuel allways unless you add a structer (takes up more Liquid Ozone and Heavy Water) or take one down (burns less) Also for you fools out there who think you can snipe a POS down in a BS I will tell you this. It take a fleet of 8 Dreds 4 hours to take down a Medium POS. Now even if you where to jump in 16 BS it would take 18+ hours... And Me being the person who sent in the Petition about the Spaming of the POS- Indigo if you are found dieing more then 3 times in one 24 hours period by the POS you will find your self banned. So have fun with this stupid thread. because it's illegal for a so-called "nub" to keep trying different ships and tactics to attack a pos located at Maalna VI moon 11? or, are you lying? why would a gm tell you "hey if she keeps attacking you and dying, we'll ban her". please tell me it's not cuz of your alliance affiliation. actually, please tell me it is. Hmmm well some friends of mine took 7 hours to put a large caldari pos into reinforced mode with roughly 7 t2 fitted ravens. So 8 dreads should do a better job. Here's a quick calc to confirm their erroneous ramblings. Assume 8 caldari dreads with 3 citadel torp launchers, siege mode and no damage mods. 8 dreads x 3 launchers x 5000 x 1.05 (noob capital pew pew skills and no kinetic bonus) x 10 (for seige mode)= 1,260,000 damage every 48 seconds (with rof bonuses) That's about 26k dps which makes the optimal shield regen of a medium caldari pos of around 310 hp/second look rather sickly. Add a capital blaster to each phoenix and suddenly that four hour figure looks rather mythical when a caldari pos only has around 25m hp. Note that cruise missle batteries do not give a damage bonus, only torp batteries get a damage bonus. You could tank their pos all day with a rubbish bs set up. "If you had a gang of 81127 kestrals you could alpha strike Tranquility Server into a smoking hole in the ground"
Indigo Emerald	Posted - 2007.04.23 04:28:00 - [87] Thank you all again this has been a great experience for me. They have pulled down the POS and have started moving out. We have seen 3 members moving with industrials just today. I think it is thanks to all u fine people pulling behind a small pirate corp. I would like to congratulate every one who posted on here, we have all shown u mess with one of us u mess with all of us, u have all made me feel like part of the pirate community. I will check the forums more often and YARRRRRRRRR to any one of ur defenses. Have Fun & Fly Safe
Nyck Not Your Common Killers	Posted - 2007.04.23 04:37:00 - [88] She can be so emotional sometimes. Solidarity, and all that. I feel so patriotic. I would like to thank everyone for the help and suggestions. I think these guys just weren't getting the point until they realized their attitudes would get them into a deeper mess. Sweets, I'm going to miss the good times, man. I'll always cherish the corpses your mates left me. To everyone else, safe flying, and good yarr.
Filthy Pierre Gallente Laughing Fox Enterprises	Posted - 2007.04.23 05:34:00 - [89] Nyck, I'm a filthy non-pirate (I build and mine but I'm not a carebear) - if something like that happens again and you get a totally unclassy bunch in you neighborhood getting nonpirates a bad name, let me know. I'll happily provide all the wolf pack stuff you need to kill 'em. For free. FP
Mr Stargate Caldari Demonic Retribution	Posted - 2007.04.23 07:05:00 - [90] Originally by: Devian 666 ......... Add a capital blaster to each phoenix and suddenly that four hour figure looks rather mythical when a caldari pos only has around 25m hp. Note that cruise missle batteries do not give a damage bonus, only torp batteries get a damage bonus. You could tank their pos all day with a rubbish bs set up. FYI: Blasters are useless if you are attacking a LARGE tower. You will NOT hit a large tower at all, because the blasters will be out of range. ------------------------ /me needs a new sig ------------------------

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