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Indigo Emerald	Posted - 2007.04.19 17:13:00 - [1] I am in a small pirate corp in 0.3 space and a 50 member industrial corp moved in and said they would wipe us out and set up a POS. I decide to suicide there POS in Reapers over and over again so it will stay on, useing double the fuel (thus costing them double to stay there). They petitioned me and ccp told me to stop. My question is how can I make it so there POS uses more fuel without getting banned? Before I was stopped I was up to 90 Reapers in about 4 days.
kublai Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.04.19 17:16:00 - [2] Originally by: Indigo Emerald I am in a small pirate corp in 0.3 space and a 50 member industrial corp moved in and said they would wipe us out and set up a POS. I decide to suicide there POS in Reapers over and over again so it will stay on, useing double the fuel (thus costing them double to stay there). They petitioned me and ccp told me to stop. My question is how can I make it so there POS uses more fuel without getting banned? Before I was stopped I was up to 90 Reapers in about 4 days. Look what sort of guns modules it has, find a ship that cant be harmed by them and sit at range taking pot shots where it cant hit you, or orbit faster than the guns track and waste ammo etc etc etc. Kublai is looking for a new corp! recruit me today
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.04.19 17:18:00 - [3] Well the thing is, you were using free ships to trigger a defense mechanism, so you were spending nothing yourself while dealing lots of damage. While it was a clever and brutally effective tactic, I can see why CCP told you to cut it out. Attempting a real raid on the POS, if it's worth it or possible, could help. Or, war dec them and declare your terms as them leaving system. Pod their haulers until the war is settled. War deccing for territory can't really be petitioned... -----
Indigo Emerald	Posted - 2007.04.19 17:21:00 - [4] It has warp disruptor battery and web battery and only 3 cruise launchers
kublai Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.04.19 17:24:00 - [5] Originally by: Indigo Emerald It has warp disruptor battery and web battery and only 3 cruise launchers Find a ship setup thats cheap and can tank the 3 cruise launchers, or sit outside of range and take shots at the pos with the web and warp dis batt wastes away on you (not sure about the ranges). Kublai is looking for a new corp! recruit me today
Cosmar Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.04.19 17:25:00 - [6] I too think it must be to the usage of free newb ships that made it petitionable. The problem is someone could be making alts and do the same thing to any POS at no cost or risk forever - it's just really cheesy. If you were to use proper ships (even just regular t1 frigs or whatever) or if you can tank the fire then that should be ok.
Detrevni Minmatar Aionios Diadochi	Posted - 2007.04.19 17:29:00 - [7] executioner with an MWD and a cap battery can attain pretty crazy speeds for a long time. That might work. also for a cheap alternative: Shuttles. Buy a few hundred and suicide those. They cost money so CCP shouln't have any beef with it... thoguh I could be wrong.
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.04.19 17:31:00 - [8] Originally by: Detrevni executioner with an MWD and a cap battery can attain pretty crazy speeds for a long time. That might work. also for a cheap alternative: Shuttles. Buy a few hundred and suicide those. They cost money so CCP shouln't have any beef with it... thoguh I could be wrong. True but I think they had an issue with the fact that he wasn't attacking to do damage, just to get it to go into reinforced mode. Thus, potential exploit. -----
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.04.19 17:33:00 - [9] Also, not knowing much about POSes, could a sniper battleship/BC potentially destroy any of the structures inside? If so you could try balancing a tank with range to snipe out the control tower. -----
Zedrik Cayne Gallente Vendetta Incorporated	Posted - 2007.04.19 17:39:00 - [10] Interesting... Now comes some more of the tactical questions... Do POS sentries cycle targets the way gate/station sentries do? (Never actually seen the guns in action before except to grab a noobalt and make sure things were firing) If not, setup something with a massive tank. Warp in, grab aggro, and then get a couple of your corpies in to buff. (Remote shield boost/Remote armor repair) And just sit there, maybe run them out of ammo :) -- Does a lot of shooting for a miner. I've joined the dark side, they had cookies.
pandymen Caldari Red Dwarf Mining Corporation	Posted - 2007.04.19 17:51:00 - [11] Edited by: pandymen on 19/04/2007 17:47:08 To the OP, ask a GM for specific info as to why you weren't allowed to use your tactic before. Specifically, find out what is not allowed. If it involves using the rook ship to do the damage, then that can be fixed. Use shuttles. If it has to do with a griefing issue, simply point out that they have threatened your corp and you are in a turf war. You shouldn't need to wardec to make that clear as it is already lowsec. If necessary, have your corp wardec them and enjoy catching their haulers around in the belts. It honestly should have nothing to do with you not doing any dmg to them and just costing them cash. It is a perfectly valid tactic. They have several ways to remedy the situation. A. Fix relations between corps B. Kill you before you get to them So there isn't really a griefing issue that can't be remedied by their actions.
Darcy Killar Gallente Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.19 17:56:00 - [12] Originally by: Jex Jast Also, not knowing much about POSes, could a sniper battleship/BC potentially destroy any of the structures inside? If so you could try balancing a tank with range to snipe out the control tower. No, you can only shoot at the tower, or the shield or whatever. You can not target anything else inside (including ships) Originally by: Zedrik Cayne Interesting... Now comes some more of the tactical questions... Do POS sentries cycle targets the way gate/station sentries do? (Never actually seen the guns in action before except to grab a noobalt and make sure things were firing) If not, setup something with a massive tank. Warp in, grab aggro, and then get a couple of your corpies in to buff. (Remote shield boost/Remote armor repair) And just sit there, maybe run them out of ammo :) Yes the cycle targets. Don't ask how I know all this About me! Darkness Inc. Recruitment!
Jak Silverheart Minmatar	Posted - 2007.04.19 18:18:00 - [13] Edited by: Jak Silverheart on 19/04/2007 18:16:10 Edited by: Jak Silverheart on 19/04/2007 18:15:12 Yay Grammer Errors Originally by: kublai Originally by: Indigo Emerald It has warp disruptor battery and web battery and only 3 cruise launchers Find a ship setup thats cheap and can tank the 3 cruise launchers, or sit outside of range and take shots at the pos with the web and warp dis batt wastes away on you (not sure about the ranges). Off hand I'd say a Drake or Ferfox can easily tank just the 3 cruise lauchers with only T1 fit. Thats with a passive tank if you want something good and not have to worry about. But you can easily set up a perma-tank with any BC, than I would set it up for sniping and start shooting their control tower if I were you, just to speed things up a bit. If your lucky and can tank the POS and none of them are online you might be able to destroy the thing, in which case if I were them I move out of the system or build a bigger better POS. (This comes from someone who don't know much about POS, except the fact that I looked into it a few times, so if im wrong someone tear apart what I said) Originally by: Scordite Who was it that said that flying minmatar is kinda like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair while firing an uzi?
Tika Bloodstar Gallente Hell's Horsemen	Posted - 2007.04.19 18:21:00 - [14] Another thought... Post here their corp name and system. Im sure there are plenty of corps out there that would be willing to war dec them. Although, you may never get your territory back...
Ryas Nia Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.04.19 18:54:00 - [15] if its a caldari tower with cruise missiles then a ferox or drake will NOT be able to tank. The way towers work is they get big bonuses to damage on what would otherwise be normal sized weapons. I agree that you should check with the GM's if its because you were using rookie ships then switch to shuttles. This SHOULD be a valid tactic for a single person to enact economic terrorism. If the GM's again say you cant do it than, this game has lost its edge, as for it to be elevated, and finally make an appeal to the community because this should be and is a valid tactic for costing a "hostile" force isk. Recruiting Terrorists
Christopher Dalran Gallente Deadly Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.19 19:50:00 - [16] Use anything other than free noob ships, you should not get any stop requests from ccp as long as your actually expending resources instead of the free replacement ship that is only meant so you dont get stuck somewhere. Also you can just war dec them and camp the route into and out of the system, or ambush their haulers anywhere you can forcing them not only to have to protect them but to also run them without expanders (if they chose to use expanders instead of i-stabs, nano's and WCS's then all the better for you) so it will take them alot longer to move stuff about. Also keep an eye on where they are getting their ice from, they probably arent buying it off the market so that means they are going to be mining it themselves. Try and ambush a mining op and make an effort to keep them from getting ice. You dont actually have to kill them if you focus on their canisters from long range using cruise missiles from a stealth bomber. You can keep them from mining ice with little risk and CCP will not stop you. To be brutally honest you cant realy displace a pirate corp, they dont run a POS or anything like that so their only requirement is being in low sec as to not get shot down by faction police. All they realy have done is provide you with a constant and stationary source of targets and income. Also be aware that since its an industrial corp 1/2 of them are probably alts so I seriously doubt you will be dealing with 50 people at the same time. What i Suggest you do is War dec them and the disrupt all their operations in any way possible. Force them to pay you weekly to stop. Stealth Bombers against mining ops by targeting canisters is probably your BEST chance to get them to pay you, they cant make any ISK if they cant mine ore now can then. If you realy want to push them out inform some merc corps of the pathetic state of their POS, honestly with just 3 cruise launchers you may find some corps willing to Kill the POS for free just because it is so poorly setup. ------------------------------- C.D's Formula for success ------------------------------- Credit Card = Game Time Card Gametime Card = ISK Therefore Credit Card = ISK.
William DeMeo Gallente Serial Killers Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.19 19:52:00 - [17] Name of thread is awesome. Just blow the POS up. Yarr
Devian 666 Ocean Dynamics Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.19 22:30:00 - [18] The three cruise launchers will only do 46 dps on a caldari tower. You could easily tank the tower setup and waste their cruise missles. Cruise missle batteries do not get a damage bonus. The cruise battery gives a missle veloctiy bonus of 2.5 which gives the cruise missles a range of 180km+ without including a caldari tower velocity bonus. So sniping without a tank isn't an option. The webber stops you from orbiting the tower with an interceptor unfortunately. "If you had a gang of 81127 kestrals you could alpha strike Tranquility Server into a smoking hole in the ground"
Nalar Marnith Minmatar Tetranex Consolidated	Posted - 2007.04.20 02:03:00 - [19] Edited by: Nalar Marnith on 20/04/2007 01:59:10 Cruise missiles won't be doing much damage to any of your smaller ships however. Try it with some cheap t1 frigs and see how long you can last. Find out the range on the scram too, if you can stay outside the range on that you'll be able to warp in/out and waste their missiles pretty easy :)
Ket Halpak ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.20 03:02:00 - [20] I don't know all that much about POS weaponry, but, if you just want to waste their ammo and stuff, get yourself a frig or cruiser with fof defender missiles, these will wipe out any missiles coming your way and are relativly cheap. Just sit there taking pot shots at the tower and just make sure your cargo hold is full of defender missiles. That is the problem with just using missiles for pos weaponry, they can be shot down, real men use artilery. _ Check out my blog at RantingsofaCarebear.blogspot.com Privateers: Those who don't adapt become victims of harsh irony
Devian 666 Ocean Dynamics Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.20 03:09:00 - [21] Cruise missles on a pos have 25% of the explosion radius and a 100% increase in explosion velocity. You could use a bunch of kestrals with defender missles to down the cruise missles. You'd only need two or three to do a good job. Use some bs class dps if you are prepared to risk it. Depending on the size of the pos it'll take quite some time to knock it into reinforced mode. "If you had a gang of 81127 kestrals you could alpha strike Tranquility Server into a smoking hole in the ground"
Dark Kavar Caldari Aionios Diadochi	Posted - 2007.04.20 04:35:00 - [22] Passive tanked drake, not even that expensive a set up either, will sit there and take damage from 3 cruise launchers all day, but i suppose if they have other people warp in and start firing you'd be screwed.... Kind of like the Triforce in Zelda, only not quite as potent.
Sweet Remembrance25	Posted - 2007.04.20 04:58:00 - [23] Lmfao, how pathetic are you Indigo? You were told to stop because of spam and harassment. We received over 100 kill mails from that. I cant imagine you yourself are making any money of this. I honestly wouldnt enjoy logging on, wracking myself on a POS for a few hours and then logging off. For those of you who dont know a thing about POS's please dont post anymore. It doesnt help to sulk over a 210 Mil loss to these "industrialists" either.
Devian 666 Ocean Dynamics Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.20 05:16:00 - [24] Originally by: Sweet Remembrance25 Lmfao, how pathetic are you Indigo? You were told to stop because of spam and harassment. We received over 100 kill mails from that. I cant imagine you yourself are making any money of this. I honestly wouldnt enjoy logging on, wracking myself on a POS for a few hours and then logging off. For those of you who dont know a thing about POS's please dont post anymore. It doesnt help to sulk over a 210 Mil loss to these "industrialists" either. It's only spam and harrassment where he has no chance of killing the pos. Now if the pos actually ran out of ammo (which is highly unlikely) then it might be a different story. "If you had a gang of 81127 kestrals you could alpha strike Tranquility Server into a smoking hole in the ground"
Indigo Emerald	Posted - 2007.04.20 05:26:00 - [25] Hey sweet (this is there CEO) how is it going i would like to thank everyone who posted here wether u know anything about POSs or not all of the info is great. The only thing i am wondering if i use shuttles they will have to create a new petition and ccp will have to tell me to now stop useing shuttles right
Liang Nuren Red 42 CORE.	Posted - 2007.04.20 07:14:00 - [26] Well, there's always options you can look at. Consider seeing if they are using 1 specific kind of cruise missile (Wrath for instance). Uber tank vs that, and pound their tower with missiles, guns, or lasers (ammoless!). If they're not hitting you with the same kind of cruise missiles, I know that cruisers are small enough that their missiles are probably going to get a sig penalty. Combined with defender spammage (aka caracal), you're probably golden. Dropping someone's POS in reinforced mode would get old fast, and I suspect it's a good form of economic terrorism. In the end, I'd offer to stop on the grounds they pay your corp 250-500m / wk to leave them alone. Afterall, their CEO already said you cost them 210m just so far... and you've been doing it dreadfully inefficiently! Imagine how much more it'll cost them if you're literally unkillable, and just tank their pos with an alt all day (and shooting back with ammoless weapons if you can) =) Don't forget that you could try "bumping" things out of their pos. The larger alliances get away with it, so you may be able to as well (I don't know what the exact mechanics are with that, but it may be possible. It's worth experimenting with to find out for sure). Liang
Ket Halpak ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.20 07:50:00 - [27] Originally by: Liang Nuren Don't forget that you could try "bumping" things out of their pos. The larger alliances get away with it, so you may be able to as well (I don't know what the exact mechanics are with that, but it may be possible. It's worth experimenting with to find out for sure). Liang I belive they do it by warping a large capital ship, such as a freighter, carrier, dread and even a mothership at zero to the pos. There is no cliping in warp so you are able to enter their forcefield. Once your drop out of warp cliping takes hold and you are sent a high speed out of the pos, bumping any ships in there on your way :) _ Check out my blog at RantingsofaCarebear.blogspot.com Privateers: Those who don't adapt become victims of harsh irony
Saint Lazarus	Posted - 2007.04.20 08:19:00 - [28] First off, congrats thats genius. When outgunned you actually find a way to haress someone to the point of petitonin with reaper's And ummm second I actually have not much else to add.........fight the power :insert cool signature here:
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2007.04.20 08:24:00 - [29] if the shuttles are non-petitionable, ransom their POS.
Ladyah Liandri VMF-214 Blacksheep	Posted - 2007.04.20 08:32:00 - [30] Originally by: Jex Jast Also, not knowing much about POSes, could a sniper battleship/BC potentially destroy any of the structures inside? If so you could try balancing a tank with range to snipe out the control tower. Nope. POS defence reaches farther than any sniper ship. And you can't destroy POS structures like that. You have to bring down shields first.
Ladyah Liandri VMF-214 Blacksheep	Posted - 2007.04.20 08:38:00 - [31] Originally by: Dark Kavar Passive tanked drake, not even that expensive a set up either, will sit there and take damage from 3 cruise launchers all day, but i suppose if they have other people warp in and start firing you'd be screwed.... I doubt that a Drake could tank Caldari Cruise Missile Batteries given the bonuses. Have you actually tried it or is that an assumption?
Liang Nuren Red 42 CORE.	Posted - 2007.04.20 08:59:00 - [32] So what system is this in, because now I'm really curious if I can tank 3 cruise missiles from a missile battery every 24 seconds! Liang
Ladyah Liandri VMF-214 Blacksheep	Posted - 2007.04.20 09:08:00 - [33] Originally by: Liang Nuren So what system is this in, because now I'm really curious if I can tank 3 cruise missiles from a missile battery every 24 seconds! Liang Well I assume it's a Caldari Control Tower so don't forget about its bonus. Any if it was my POS there wouldn't be just 1 battery.
Ione Hunt Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.04.20 10:07:00 - [34] Buy all the POS fuel they need within 3-4 jumps of their POS. Then camp the route they have to take to get POS fuel, and blow up their haulers. Fit a lot of warp scramblers in case they use transport ships! _______________
Taipan Gedscho Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.20 14:13:00 - [35] Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 20/04/2007 14:13:00 to the OP: i took a look on your corp ... well... i think with that member count you prolly die of boredom if you wanna plan on taking the pos down. mind me, ive only been involved in the premature closedown of 2 posses so far, and im clearly not dying to do it again, because i failed to see the fun behind that. anyway... "economic terrorism" might be the way to go. (you clearly know more about pos mechanix than i do ) if i were you, id try the following: take some ship with tanking bonuses, resists preferred. cruiser sized should do i think. fit it t1, tank it up like mad, damage is secondary. insure it. IF warp stabs help against the warp scrambling batteries, grab some. warp in, sit there, tank it as long as you can, stay aligned, and get out before the proverbial p00p00 hits the fan. that is how I would do it, given the stuff i learned in this thread. id be glad if somebody could work through my ideas, and cleared up my mistakes and if's. if you want to do it with style, pursuit the plans that aim on preventing them from getting ice. that's just... cool. Only you can save mmorpgs - Stop crying for nerfs today!
Dionisius Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.04.20 14:33:00 - [36] Why don't you just hunt down the industrial corp ships?And try to blockade their supplies? It would be more effective just to let them have their POS into reinforce and then vulnerable than to attack the POS directly. _______________________ What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
Tika Bloodstar Gallente Hell's Horsemen	Posted - 2007.04.20 14:51:00 - [37] System name please?? Hell's Horsemen Alektorophobia
PCaBoo Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.20 15:35:00 - [38] Edited by: PCaBoo on 20/04/2007 15:33:04 you're going to have to take out their logistics, cuz you're not gonna take down the 12m or w/e it is shields that a tower has w/o a dread. I was bored a couple weeks ago, so I went on the test server and attacked a small OFFLINE pos for about 5 hours using Rage torpedoes and dmg mods. I was doing about 1000 dmg per torp x6, @9.x sec rof and I barely dented the shields. I ran out of ammo and patience, so I left. If the POS really does only have 3 cruise launchers, you can blob it with 20-30 bs's and permatank them, but you're going to be there forever... Chances are that they'll send in some sort of response to defend their tower (if they don't, let me know, i'd like to meet these guys). ________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people!
Dalanoria Team Americas Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.20 16:35:00 - [39] Hire a small merc corp with atleast 1 dread and your golden.
PCaBoo Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.20 16:37:00 - [40] Originally by: Dalanoria Hire a small merc corp with atleast 1 dread and your golden. I'd be quite embarrassed if I were in a pirate corp that hired mercs to take out carebears. ________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people!
Hannobaal Gallente Utopian Frontier	Posted - 2007.04.20 17:13:00 - [41] Originally by: Indigo Emerald It has warp disruptor battery and web battery and only 3 cruise launchers That's really poor defense for a pos. I can imagine a lot of ships that could easily tank 3 POS cruise missile batteries even with tower bonuses. ------------------ "If you ever need anything, please don't Hesitate to ask someone else first."
Savesti Kyrsst Minmatar White-Noise	Posted - 2007.04.20 17:32:00 - [42] You can just about tank one cruise battery in a shuttle. I think finding something to tank three shouldn't be too hard
Speed Devil Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.20 17:44:00 - [43] what system is this pos in? Every time a carebear whines, ill break another kitty's spines
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.04.20 18:16:00 - [44] Originally by: Savesti Kyrsst You can just about tank one cruise battery in a shuttle. I think finding something to tank three shouldn't be too hard Yeah but shuttles have a really good tank that's why you assign fighters to them. -----
Jimer Lins Gallente Sanctuary	Posted - 2007.04.20 19:21:00 - [45] Originally by: Jex Jast Originally by: Savesti Kyrsst You can just about tank one cruise battery in a shuttle. I think finding something to tank three shouldn't be too hard Yeah but shuttles have a really good tank that's why you assign fighters to them. Dammit, Jex. You beat me to it. shakes tiny fist Sanctions, embargoes and blockades- discuss PVP with ISK!
Last Cause	Posted - 2007.04.20 19:52:00 - [46] If you want to mess with them and still make some money, set buy orders in stations for REALLY low prices, like buy orders for ice at 500 ISK per unit, and the same for POS fuel. Then do what was suggested earlier, buy all of the ice and POS fuel within a few jumps thats of a decent price an then sell it in thier homesystem for like a 500% mark up. THEN start hitting thier transports and ice mining, if they want to keep the POS going, they'll have to buy the extremley overpriced pos fuel and ice from your alt (yeah, use an alt) and have the alt pretend to be helping by giving them a discount down to 450% :) In anycase, it'll sap thier supply budget slowly into your wallet (esp if they take it personal and want the POS to just **** you off) and the hits you make on thier ops and transports will be of much greater damage. Also, tank the POS best you can to still increase the need for fuel. Eventually they will fall under the pressure of thier own needs. Done and done.
Indigo Emerald	Posted - 2007.04.20 20:07:00 - [47] It is an amarr med tower with 3 cruise launchers awarpdisruptor battery a web battery and research stations. It is in Maalna VI moon 11. There is only 3 people in my corp we do not have the resources to blow it up. So if any of u fine ladies and gentleman get bored come on by. I would love the company because the industrial corp does not talk to me anymore.
PCaBoo Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.20 20:43:00 - [48] Originally by: Indigo Emerald It is an amarr med tower with 3 cruise launchers awarpdisruptor battery a web battery and research stations. It is in Maalna VI moon 11. There is only 3 people in my corp we do not have the resources to blow it up. So if any of u fine ladies and gentleman get bored come on by. I would love the company because the industrial corp does not talk to me anymore. eek 55 jumps. As for their setup... wow. You might not have to do anything at all, surely people of this 'caliber' will implode shortly. ________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people!
Hannobaal Gallente Utopian Frontier	Posted - 2007.04.20 21:28:00 - [49] Originally by: Indigo Emerald It is an amarr med tower with 3 cruise launchers awarpdisruptor battery a web battery and research stations. It is in Maalna VI moon 11. There is only 3 people in my corp we do not have the resources to blow it up. So if any of u fine ladies and gentleman get bored come on by. I would love the company because the industrial corp does not talk to me anymore. God, you'd barely have to breath at that thing to kill it. My small POS has a much better defense than that. ------------------ "If you ever need anything, please don't Hesitate to ask someone else first."
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.04.21 02:58:00 - [50] Originally by: Jimer Lins Originally by: Jex Jast Originally by: Savesti Kyrsst You can just about tank one cruise battery in a shuttle. I think finding something to tank three shouldn't be too hard Yeah but shuttles have a really good tank that's why you assign fighters to them. Dammit, Jex. You beat me to it. shakes tiny fist Come on, you have to remember who you're dealing with here. -----
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.04.21 03:02:00 - [51] Originally by: Hannobaal Originally by: Indigo Emerald It is an amarr med tower with 3 cruise launchers awarpdisruptor battery a web battery and research stations. It is in Maalna VI moon 11. There is only 3 people in my corp we do not have the resources to blow it up. So if any of u fine ladies and gentleman get bored come on by. I would love the company because the industrial corp does not talk to me anymore. God, you'd barely have to breath at that thing to kill it. My small POS has a much better defense than that. I have found one even weaker...no web...I am going to destroy it if I can, but I'm not really sure how as I know nothing about POSes. -----
Sweet Remembrance25	Posted - 2007.04.21 03:27:00 - [52] Ok, just to clear it all up with you nubs out there STILL posting when you know nothing abouts POS's, You CAN NOT touch anything inside the POS (exception of the previously mentioned capital move) until the shield is blown, and that has 20 MILLION hp. So unless you have a massive collection of dreads you ARE NOT going to drop a pos. In which case (since i have 2 days of reinforced fuel inside) you're going to get bored IF we dont pawn ur noob dread fleet first. Oh btw, just an update for Indigo's attempt (and the comment on tanking a POS with one cruiser because of the sig. or anything smaller) Indigo decided to be smart and pop in with a claw... yeah that was a nice kill mail... P.S. Im so sick of nubs...
Opi	Posted - 2007.04.21 03:28:00 - [53] Edited by: Opi on 21/04/2007 03:24:38
Opiboble Inte Avatars of Might D-L	Posted - 2007.04.21 03:29:00 - [54] I dont know if you guys are smart enogh to know this but Spamming a POS with ships and making it shoot at you does not make it burn more fuel. A POS burns the same amount of fuel allways unless you add a structer (takes up more Liquid Ozone and Heavy Water) or take one down (burns less) Also for you fools out there who think you can snipe a POS down in a BS I will tell you this. It take a fleet of 8 Dreds 4 hours to take down a Medium POS. Now even if you where to jump in 16 BS it would take 18+ hours... And Me being the person who sent in the Petition about the Spaming of the POS- Indigo if you are found dieing more then 3 times in one 24 hours period by the POS you will find your self banned. So have fun with this stupid thread. bye all
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.04.21 03:36:00 - [55] You know, Indigo, I'm not really liking the personality of this corp you're dealing with. I'd fund hiring some mercs to kill their POS and drive them out with repeated poddings, if it were worth my ISK. When I get that lucky loot that hopefully lies in my future I might consider it. -----
Sweet Remembrance25 Avatars of Might D-L	Posted - 2007.04.21 03:38:00 - [56] Ok i read some of the peoples replies to this thread and you all honestly dont do your research do you? 1 dread wont do it, 30 bs wont do it, and if by some miracle you manage to get enough dreads together we will take them as a snack and enjoy looting and salvaging the wrecks. Im not a carebear nor is anyone else in my corp, i will make a bowl out of ur skull and eat your liver out of it. Do your research nubs.
Kirex Gallente Vale Heavy Industries	Posted - 2007.04.21 04:04:00 - [57] lol someone needs to pwn this pos. Click above for my killboard stats.
Lazarann Caldari Ideal Machine THE R0NIN	Posted - 2007.04.21 08:06:00 - [58] Edited by: Lazarann on 21/04/2007 08:02:25 Originally by: Opiboble Inte I dont know if you guys are smart enogh to know this but Spamming a POS with ships and making it shoot at you does not make it burn more fuel. A POS burns the same amount of fuel allways unless you add a structer (takes up more Liquid Ozone and Heavy Water) or take one down (burns less) Also for you fools out there who think you can snipe a POS down in a BS I will tell you this. It take a fleet of 8 Dreds 4 hours to take down a Medium POS. Now even if you where to jump in 16 BS it would take 18+ hours... And Me being the person who sent in the Petition about the Spaming of the POS- Indigo if you are found dieing more then 3 times in one 24 hours period by the POS you will find your self banned. So have fun with this stupid thread. I dunno what crappy dreads you've used, but I watched with my own eyes while 3 alliance mates in dreads took down a medium POS in 30 minutes. By the way, glad to see you joined a BoB-pet alliance...too bad they're a huge bunch of mining carebears. If you guys had the funds, I'm sure I could find some people willing to come down and blow it up. Wouldn't be the first time that bad smacktalk brought our Dreads to low-sec.
Esk Esme Caldari DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2007.04.21 11:37:00 - [59] Originally by: Sweet Remembrance25 Edited by: Sweet Remembrance25 on 21/04/2007 04:29:40 Ok, just to clear it all up with you nubs out there STILL posting when you know nothing abouts POS's, You CAN NOT touch anything inside the POS (exception of the previously mentioned capital move) until the shield is blown, and that has 20 MILLION hp. So unless you have a massive collection of dreads you ARE NOT going to drop a pos. In which case you're going to get bored IF we dont pawn ur noob dread fleet first. Oh btw, just an update for Indigo's attempt (and the comment on tanking a POS with one cruiser because of the sig. or anything smaller) Indigo decided to be smart and pop in with a claw... yeah that was a nice kill mail... poped many posses with just BS fleet's P.S. Im so sick of nubs...
elorran Minmatar Ante Matter Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2007.04.21 11:43:00 - [60] Originally by: Indigo Emerald There is only 3 people in my corp we do not have the resources to blow it up.. Actually with some time and patience you could blow up a medium tower. A medium sized group of battleships can kill a small pos tower in a few hours, a medium would take a good while longer, especially with just 3 battleships. But it could be done with a free evening to spend and a little bit of fore-thought in your ship setups (bit of health increasing modules, remote health supporting modules and drones (depending on tank), damage increase modules). - - Ante Matter - Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
Hannobaal Gallente Utopian Frontier	Posted - 2007.04.21 11:47:00 - [61] Originally by: Sweet Remembrance25 Edited by: Sweet Remembrance25 on 21/04/2007 04:29:40 Ok, just to clear it all up with you nubs out there STILL posting when you know nothing abouts POS's, You CAN NOT touch anything inside the POS (exception of the previously mentioned capital move) until the shield is blown, and that has 20 MILLION hp. So unless you have a massive collection of dreads you ARE NOT going to drop a pos. In which case you're going to get bored IF we dont pawn ur noob dread fleet first. Oh btw, just an update for Indigo's attempt (and the comment on tanking a POS with one cruiser because of the sig. or anything smaller) Indigo decided to be smart and pop in with a claw... yeah that was a nice kill mail... P.S. Im so sick of nubs... ' Don't need dreads. A fleet of 10 battleships could take it down with ease if they have the right equipment. Your POS just doesn't have any firepower to protect itself. 3 Cruise Missile Batteries (thanks to their incredibly slow firing rate) have a whopping total of 37.5 in dps. And yeah, a cruiser can tank that, not because of sig radius but because the pos defenses dps is crap. ------------------ "If you ever need anything, please don't Hesitate to ask someone else first."
William DeMeo Gallente Serial Killers Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.21 11:50:00 - [62] Originally by: Sweet Remembrance25 Ok i read some of the peoples replies to this thread and you all honestly dont do your research do you? 1 dread wont do it, 30 bs wont do it, and if by some miracle you manage to get enough dreads together we will take them as a snack and enjoy looting and salvaging the wrecks. Im not a carebear nor is anyone else in my corp, i will make a bowl out of ur skull and eat your liver out of it. Do your research nubs. LOL is that your POS? I don't think I've ever heard of such a poorly setup med pos ever tbh. A BS gang with alot of time on their hands could take it out. Yarr
Lynae Caldari	Posted - 2007.04.21 12:27:00 - [63] Originally by: Jex Jast Originally by: Kirex lol someone needs to pwn this pos. QFT QFT again. Please destroy this POS. ___ Originally by: Dark Shikari They're protected by shuttles carrying Templars, Amarr fighter drones used by carriers, but their tanks aren't that strong.
Nyck Not Your Common Killers	Posted - 2007.04.21 13:22:00 - [64] Edited by: Nyck on 21/04/2007 13:19:21 Originally by: Opiboble Inte I dont know if you guys are smart enogh to know this but Spamming a POS with ships and making it shoot at you does not make it burn more fuel. A POS burns the same amount of fuel allways unless you add a structer (takes up more Liquid Ozone and Heavy Water) or take one down (burns less) Also for you fools out there who think you can snipe a POS down in a BS I will tell you this. It take a fleet of 8 Dreds 4 hours to take down a Medium POS. Now even if you where to jump in 16 BS it would take 18+ hours... And Me being the person who sent in the Petition about the Spaming of the POS- Indigo if you are found dieing more then 3 times in one 24 hours period by the POS you will find your self banned. So have fun with this stupid thread. I've petitioned one of your corp mate several times for some disparaging remarks, and he still lives. Please, oh please stop making false threats. I see no reason to turn this into flames on the forums. Please keep it in local? I guess? Oh, and, wow. 3 pages before I actually see the thread. I'm slipping. *edited for spelling (I'm so anal)
Lazarann Caldari Ideal Machine THE R0NIN	Posted - 2007.04.21 16:08:00 - [65] Originally by: Nyck *edited for spelling (I'm so anal) Waits for the flame-joke.....
Liang Nuren Red 42 CORE.	Posted - 2007.04.21 16:57:00 - [66] Originally by: Lazarann Originally by: Nyck *edited for spelling (I'm so anal) Waits for the flame-joke..... insert flame-joke here
Hypatia Iola Caldari Central Defiance	Posted - 2007.04.21 17:14:00 - [67] Edited by: Hypatia Iola on 21/04/2007 17:15:41 Edited by: Hypatia Iola on 21/04/2007 17:15:13 Edited by: Hypatia Iola on 21/04/2007 17:11:39 dear god in heaven these guys are asshats! indigo i can't really pull squat into this but i'll grab anyone i can next week to help you out. by the way, screw blowing up the POS, just pod these guys into the stone age! it's easier, faster, more damaging (especially if you can catch them before they reup a clone) and wouldn't take a dread. oh if only i had cash to throw at this stuff... anyway seriously someone with a locator agent post these guys locations, I'll drop in 5 mil a corpse of the two asshats who posted here to a max of 30 mil(hey i'm not made of money) others should buy them too (heh) edit P.S. i won't be on next week, so y'all have time to find 'em and gank-em taking 6 corpses! get them with implants if you can! edit 2, and yeah i know my pay ain't fantastic but this is a labor of love too... you get to feel good about the ISK you make for once! or if you already feel good you get to be the good guy! I represent only my own views, they just happen to be the right ones.
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.04.21 17:58:00 - [68] Edited by: DubanFP on 21/04/2007 17:54:11 Why not fit more WCS then the PoS can scram you for. If it's the short range warp scram you can warp in outside it's range, if it's the long range warp scram you can easily fit a few WCS and warp off. Basically go in at the maximum range, once the launchers fire at you a few times warp off before they arrive. Repeat as nessessary, and devs probebly won't yell at you for all the killmails since there won't be any actual killmails. ______________________ Interested?
Indigo Emerald	Posted - 2007.04.21 19:04:00 - [69] This is what i deal with everyday in Maalna. "go to your f*ing corner c*" that is a quote from sweet rememberance25. I am trying my best to run them off, my ceo and myself have popped 5 of there ships and podded 3 of there members. we have other conflicts in and around maalna though, we just think that if this POS can be brought down it would be a victory for all of eve pirates every where. Hopefully that would send a message to this corp that no one will stand for there immature smack talk and there smug blobbing fantasies of superiority. I can tell everyone hear that I do not know a lot about POS but i agree this is a bad set up and they need to know they do not know every thing about POSs Again thank u all for being supportive and helpful in this forum it really means a lot to me
William DeMeo Gallente Serial Killers Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.21 19:10:00 - [70] You have my Vexor indigo! Seriously, send me an evemail. I want to help yuo people out Yarr
Babel Matrix Gallente ZiTek	Posted - 2007.04.21 20:14:00 - [71] Originally by: Jex Jast True but I think they had an issue with the fact that he wasn't attacking to do damage, just to get it to go into reinforced mode. Thus, potential exploit. If BoB having all of its members warping into a system all at once to lag out their enemies within said system isn't going to get whacked by CCP, why would this?
Hannobaal Gallente Utopian Frontier	Posted - 2007.04.21 20:36:00 - [72] A pos doesn't go into reinforced mode just because a ship shows up. It goes into reinforced mode once its shield has been brought down to a certain level, and that's only if it has Strontium Clathrates stored. ------------------ "If you ever need anything, please don't Hesitate to ask someone else first."
PCaBoo Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.21 21:40:00 - [73] Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 21/04/2007 17:54:11 Why not fit more WCS then the PoS can scram you for. If it's the short range warp scram you can warp in outside it's range, if it's the long range warp scram you can easily fit a few WCS and warp off. Basically go in at the maximum range, once the launchers fire at you a few times warp off before they arrive. Repeat as nessessary, and devs probebly won't yell at you for all the killmails since there won't be any actual killmails. short range is 75km @ +6, long range is 150km @ +3. I don't know the exact numbers, but with even 3 stabs on, you're not gonna be locking from very far. ________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people!
Guntaro	Posted - 2007.04.21 21:46:00 - [74] Edited by: Guntaro on 21/04/2007 22:02:02 What's really sad here is the amount of missinformation and lack of basic knowledge concerning POS from so many players. Is there any detailed guides or stickys to POS available for players to learn from? And I don't mean the old basic sticky guide that while good doesn't really go into combat all that much. Can anyone provide a linkage to something more relevent?
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.04.21 22:11:00 - [75] Originally by: Babel Matrix Originally by: Jex Jast True but I think they had an issue with the fact that he wasn't attacking to do damage, just to get it to go into reinforced mode. Thus, potential exploit. If BoB having all of its members warping into a system all at once to lag out their enemies within said system isn't going to get whacked by CCP, why would this? Cause they're BoB, and these guys are not. I'm going to check how far away this sytem is when I next log on...I have a hankering for some ceptoring without worrying about INFOD/EST/5thc/NMTZ around every corner...and haulers sound like a good target. -----
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.04.21 22:17:00 - [76] The guide to POSs Ok what this thread needs is a few answers. Does shooting a pos cost Fuel? No Does going to a hostile pos cost ammo? Yes(except lasers) Can Turrets be unloaded? Yes when they run out of ammo they will cease fire. How do i cost them more fuel? Force the POS into reinforced mode by taking the shields down to almost nothing. Is this greifing? Yes Is it allowed? yes, but only if you do it without using noobships. ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.04.21 22:44:00 - [77] Originally by: Lithalnas Is it allowed? yes, but only if you do it without using noobships. Supposing noob ships were a tactical addition to a dread fleet...you know, for fighting off any resistance fleet that arrived... -----
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.04.21 23:10:00 - [78] Originally by: Jex Jast Originally by: Lithalnas Is it allowed? yes, but only if you do it without using noobships. Supposing noob ships were a tactical addition to a dread fleet...you know, for fighting off any resistance fleet that arrived... gess i ned to revise that Originally by: Lithalnas Is it allowed? yes, but only if you do it without using noobships. Unless you have 100 man noobship swarm. ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
Nyck Not Your Common Killers	Posted - 2007.04.21 23:12:00 - [79] Originally by: Lazarann Originally by: Nyck *edited for spelling (I'm so anal) Waits for the flame-joke..... Thanx Laz. Good to know I can still count on you.
Indigo Emerald	Posted - 2007.04.22 02:18:00 - [80] i have pretty much left there POS alone. i have been in NYCK corp for about 20 days now and have went from being a nooby pirate to learning some great skills(as u can see by the -4.3). i just thought it would be a great idea if there POS comes down. i am still trying to figure out the best ways to pop AOMIs member, so taking down the POS i think is beyond me at the moment but feel free to shut these people up on here and in game i think it would be in the best interest of everyone on EVE. i would like to believe if there POS gets blown up they r going to get out of my home because it has pretty much happened to the members we have podded
Lazarann Caldari Ideal Machine THE R0NIN	Posted - 2007.04.22 05:37:00 - [81] Originally by: Nyck Originally by: Lazarann Originally by: Nyck *edited for spelling (I'm so anal) Waits for the flame-joke..... Thanx Laz. Good to know I can still count on you. Always glad to help you guys out, on and off the forums.
Chasm Illyaki	Posted - 2007.04.22 11:37:00 - [82] i like the shuttle idea personally, or you could hire mercs. i know you are a pirate corp, but when you are the little guy, you do what you have to. you just need to keep them out of the system long enough to run it out of fuel. i was in an alliance (shadow order) that every day you logged on, you were on task to shoot this one alliance to keep them out of that system. after about 3 weeks, it was time to kiss their station good bye.
Mr Stargate Caldari Demonic Retribution	Posted - 2007.04.22 20:46:00 - [83] Edited by: Mr Stargate on 22/04/2007 20:47:37 Originally by: Opiboble Inte I dont know if you guys are smart enogh to know this but Spamming a POS with ships and making it shoot at you does not make it burn more fuel. A POS burns the same amount of fuel allways unless you add a structer (takes up more Liquid Ozone and Heavy Water) or take one down (burns less) Also for you fools out there who think you can snipe a POS down in a BS I will tell you this. It take a fleet of 8 Dreds 4 hours to take down a Medium POS. Now even if you where to jump in 16 BS it would take 18+ hours... And Me being the person who sent in the Petition about the Spaming of the POS- Indigo if you are found dieing more then 3 times in one 24 hours period by the POS you will find your self banned. So have fun with this stupid thread. wth? 4 hours to take out a MEDIUM POS? What, you guys did not use siege mode and only used 1 gun each? a LARGE Tower + Shield Hardners can go down in under an hour with that number of dreads. Trust me, I've blown up a lot of large deathstars. edit: And probably 10 battleships with 1 or 2 armor plates can easily blow that medium, unhardened, 3 cruise missile POS. The missiles will cycle, you will only get 1 volley every 15mins or so, depending on how many ppl in your gang. Probably can blow it up in 2 hours. Originally by: Sweet Remembrance25 Ok i read some of the peoples replies to this thread and you all honestly dont do your research do you? 1 dread wont do it, 30 bs wont do it, and if by some miracle you manage to get enough dreads together we will take them as a snack and enjoy looting and salvaging the wrecks. Im not a carebear nor is anyone else in my corp, i will make a bowl out of ur skull and eat your liver out of it. Do your research nubs. Obviously, this guy never seen a POS or ever attacked one, he has no idea what he is talking about ------------------------ /me needs a new sig ------------------------
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.04.22 23:26:00 - [84] Originally by: Opiboble Inte I dont know if you guys are smart enogh to know this but Spamming a POS with ships and making it shoot at you does not make it burn more fuel. A POS burns the same amount of fuel allways unless you add a structer (takes up more Liquid Ozone and Heavy Water) or take one down (burns less) Also for you fools out there who think you can snipe a POS down in a BS I will tell you this. It take a fleet of 8 Dreds 4 hours to take down a Medium POS. Now even if you where to jump in 16 BS it would take 18+ hours... And Me being the person who sent in the Petition about the Spaming of the POS- Indigo if you are found dieing more then 3 times in one 24 hours period by the POS you will find your self banned. So have fun with this stupid thread. because it's illegal for a so-called "nub" to keep trying different ships and tactics to attack a pos located at Maalna VI moon 11? or, are you lying? why would a gm tell you "hey if she keeps attacking you and dying, we'll ban her". please tell me it's not cuz of your alliance affiliation. actually, please tell me it is.
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.04.23 00:22:00 - [85] Im debating if i should open a chat channel to help this along, a place that pirates can come around and figure out what to do about pilots/corps who have a chip on their shoulders. Maalna VI moon 11 interesting... ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
Devian 666 Ocean Dynamics Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.23 03:26:00 - [86] Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd Originally by: Opiboble Inte I dont know if you guys are smart enogh to know this but Spamming a POS with ships and making it shoot at you does not make it burn more fuel. A POS burns the same amount of fuel allways unless you add a structer (takes up more Liquid Ozone and Heavy Water) or take one down (burns less) Also for you fools out there who think you can snipe a POS down in a BS I will tell you this. It take a fleet of 8 Dreds 4 hours to take down a Medium POS. Now even if you where to jump in 16 BS it would take 18+ hours... And Me being the person who sent in the Petition about the Spaming of the POS- Indigo if you are found dieing more then 3 times in one 24 hours period by the POS you will find your self banned. So have fun with this stupid thread. because it's illegal for a so-called "nub" to keep trying different ships and tactics to attack a pos located at Maalna VI moon 11? or, are you lying? why would a gm tell you "hey if she keeps attacking you and dying, we'll ban her". please tell me it's not cuz of your alliance affiliation. actually, please tell me it is. Hmmm well some friends of mine took 7 hours to put a large caldari pos into reinforced mode with roughly 7 t2 fitted ravens. So 8 dreads should do a better job. Here's a quick calc to confirm their erroneous ramblings. Assume 8 caldari dreads with 3 citadel torp launchers, siege mode and no damage mods. 8 dreads x 3 launchers x 5000 x 1.05 (noob capital pew pew skills and no kinetic bonus) x 10 (for seige mode)= 1,260,000 damage every 48 seconds (with rof bonuses) That's about 26k dps which makes the optimal shield regen of a medium caldari pos of around 310 hp/second look rather sickly. Add a capital blaster to each phoenix and suddenly that four hour figure looks rather mythical when a caldari pos only has around 25m hp. Note that cruise missle batteries do not give a damage bonus, only torp batteries get a damage bonus. You could tank their pos all day with a rubbish bs set up. "If you had a gang of 81127 kestrals you could alpha strike Tranquility Server into a smoking hole in the ground"
Indigo Emerald	Posted - 2007.04.23 04:28:00 - [87] Thank you all again this has been a great experience for me. They have pulled down the POS and have started moving out. We have seen 3 members moving with industrials just today. I think it is thanks to all u fine people pulling behind a small pirate corp. I would like to congratulate every one who posted on here, we have all shown u mess with one of us u mess with all of us, u have all made me feel like part of the pirate community. I will check the forums more often and YARRRRRRRRR to any one of ur defenses. Have Fun & Fly Safe
Nyck Not Your Common Killers	Posted - 2007.04.23 04:37:00 - [88] She can be so emotional sometimes. Solidarity, and all that. I feel so patriotic. I would like to thank everyone for the help and suggestions. I think these guys just weren't getting the point until they realized their attitudes would get them into a deeper mess. Sweets, I'm going to miss the good times, man. I'll always cherish the corpses your mates left me. To everyone else, safe flying, and good yarr.
Filthy Pierre Gallente Laughing Fox Enterprises	Posted - 2007.04.23 05:34:00 - [89] Nyck, I'm a filthy non-pirate (I build and mine but I'm not a carebear) - if something like that happens again and you get a totally unclassy bunch in you neighborhood getting nonpirates a bad name, let me know. I'll happily provide all the wolf pack stuff you need to kill 'em. For free. FP
Mr Stargate Caldari Demonic Retribution	Posted - 2007.04.23 07:05:00 - [90] Originally by: Devian 666 ......... Add a capital blaster to each phoenix and suddenly that four hour figure looks rather mythical when a caldari pos only has around 25m hp. Note that cruise missle batteries do not give a damage bonus, only torp batteries get a damage bonus. You could tank their pos all day with a rubbish bs set up. FYI: Blasters are useless if you are attacking a LARGE tower. You will NOT hit a large tower at all, because the blasters will be out of range. ------------------------ /me needs a new sig ------------------------
Nyck Not Your Common Killers	Posted - 2007.04.23 12:16:00 - [91] Originally by: Filthy Pierre Nyck, I'm a filthy non-pirate (I build and mine but I'm not a carebear) - if something like that happens again and you get a totally unclassy bunch in you neighborhood getting nonpirates a bad name, let me know. I'll happily provide all the wolf pack stuff you need to kill 'em. For free. FP Thanks for the offer. I'll keep you in mind. I think you have a distorted view of yourself. What makes you think you're filthy? In fact, your whole post was rather clean. Oh, and the funny part, they claimed they ARE pirates. But, if they had been, they would have handled us easily. I mean, 17-1 odds in their favor.
gavstick	Posted - 2007.04.23 14:35:00 - [92] I think the guys in question are moving to 0.0 space. The pirate Corp of Nycks consists of Nyck and Indigo. So no question of gatecamping ect. Indigo spent most of his life "suiciding" a POS and Nyck is usually afk. Not much of a "Corp" to be honest. Still, with AOMI gone they might now come out to play !
Jimer Lins Gallente Sanctuary	Posted - 2007.04.23 17:21:00 - [93] Originally by: Jex Jast Originally by: Lithalnas Is it allowed? yes, but only if you do it without using noobships. Supposing noob ships were a tactical addition to a dread fleet...you know, for fighting off any resistance fleet that arrived... I've heard that noobships tank even better than shuttles. ;) Sanctions, embargoes and blockades- discuss PVP with ISK!
Murukan Minmatar Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.04.23 17:46:00 - [94] Originally by: Sweet Remembrance25 Ok i read some of the peoples replies to this thread and you all honestly dont do your research do you? 1 dread wont do it, 30 bs wont do it, and if by some miracle you manage to get enough dreads together we will take them as a snack and enjoy looting and salvaging the wrecks. Im not a carebear nor is anyone else in my corp, i will make a bowl out of ur skull and eat your liver out of it. Do your research nubs. Lol Lol Lol 1 dread can easily take down a medium tower especially one with such **ty defense. And if they bring a big dread gang something tells me your pathetic bear alliance won't be able to do anything Manlove by Zaphod Jones**
Lazarann Caldari Ideal Machine THE R0NIN	Posted - 2007.04.23 19:48:00 - [95] Originally by: gavstick I think the guys in question are moving to 0.0 space. The pirate Corp of Nycks consists of Nyck and Indigo. So no question of gatecamping ect. Indigo spent most of his life "suiciding" a POS and Nyck is usually afk. Not much of a "Corp" to be honest. Still, with AOMI gone they might now come out to play ! lol this coming from someone in a 6-man corp
Devian 666 Ocean Dynamics Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.23 22:25:00 - [96] Originally by: Mr Stargate Originally by: Devian 666 ......... Add a capital blaster to each phoenix and suddenly that four hour figure looks rather mythical when a caldari pos only has around 25m hp. Note that cruise missle batteries do not give a damage bonus, only torp batteries get a damage bonus. You could tank their pos all day with a rubbish bs set up. FYI: Blasters are useless if you are attacking a LARGE tower. You will NOT hit a large tower at all, because the blasters will be out of range. Oh dear had a look at the blaster stats and you're very much right. 12km optimal for the base stat for the blaster with skills + iron XL the optimal will be less than 20km. Capital blasters suck for large ct and okish for a medium ct but I'd need to do calculations to determine dps allowing for the percentage of misses. That and probably not worth the logistics. Lucky my capital alt is training minmatar skills. "If you had a gang of 81127 kestrals you could alpha strike Tranquility Server into a smoking hole in the ground"
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.04.23 22:47:00 - [97] need i remind you that control towers dont move, you can use rails even with their sucky tracking... ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
gavstick	Posted - 2007.04.23 23:58:00 - [98] Originally by: Lazarann Originally by: gavstick I think the guys in question are moving to 0.0 space. The pirate Corp of Nycks consists of Nyck and Indigo. So no question of gatecamping ect. Indigo spent most of his life "suiciding" a POS and Nyck is usually afk. Not much of a "Corp" to be honest. Still, with AOMI gone they might now come out to play ! lol this coming from someone in a 6-man corp Lol this coming from a Corp thief
Nyck Not Your Common Killers	Posted - 2007.04.24 02:11:00 - [99] Originally by: gavstick Originally by: Lazarann Originally by: gavstick I think the guys in question are moving to 0.0 space. The pirate Corp of Nycks consists of Nyck and Indigo. So no question of gatecamping ect. Indigo spent most of his life "suiciding" a POS and Nyck is usually afk. Not much of a "Corp" to be honest. Still, with AOMI gone they might now come out to play ! lol this coming from someone in a 6-man corp Lol this coming from a Corp thief And this coming from someone who begged me to NAP his friend, just so he could join his corp, and declare war on me. Then when we fight, you end the war, and join an alliance because you know you aren't worth 50 mil a week to war dec. You'll get your fight soon enough. But, as you know, we have other war targets to deal with. And, just because I don't respond, doesn't mean I'm afk. I'm just really patient. Now, let's get back on topic, shall we?
Lazarann Caldari Ideal Machine THE R0NIN	Posted - 2007.04.24 03:42:00 - [100] Originally by: gavstick Originally by: Lazarann Originally by: gavstick I think the guys in question are moving to 0.0 space. The pirate Corp of Nycks consists of Nyck and Indigo. So no question of gatecamping ect. Indigo spent most of his life "suiciding" a POS and Nyck is usually afk. Not much of a "Corp" to be honest. Still, with AOMI gone they might now come out to play ! lol this coming from someone in a 6-man corp Lol this coming from the person who came up with the idea. Don't quite see how that was relavant though. They sucked, they deserved it. Lol this coming from a Corp thief
Nyck Not Your Common Killers	Posted - 2007.04.24 04:11:00 - [101] Originally by: Lazarann Originally by: gavstick Originally by: Lazarann Originally by: gavstick I think the guys in question are moving to 0.0 space. The pirate Corp of Nycks consists of Nyck and Indigo. So no question of gatecamping ect. Indigo spent most of his life "suiciding" a POS and Nyck is usually afk. Not much of a "Corp" to be honest. Still, with AOMI gone they might now come out to play ! lol this coming from someone in a 6-man corp Lol this coming from a Corp thief Lol this coming from the person who came up with the idea. Don't quite see how that was relavant though. They sucked, they deserved it. Went ahead and fixed that for ya.
Lazarann Caldari Ideal Machine THE R0NIN	Posted - 2007.04.24 04:14:00 - [102] lol thanks, don't know how that happened.
Nyck Not Your Common Killers	Posted - 2007.04.24 14:13:00 - [103] Originally by: gavstick I think the guys in question are moving to 0.0 space. The pirate Corp of Nycks consists of Nyck and Indigo. So no question of gatecamping ect. Indigo spent most of his life "suiciding" a POS and Nyck is usually afk. Not much of a "Corp" to be honest. Still, with AOMI gone they might now come out to play ! And if you truly wanted a fight, you'd quit running from my Wolf in your Domi. But, you learned how to pvp from AOMI, obviously, and you have no blob to back you up now.
gavstick	Posted - 2007.04.24 20:42:00 - [104] Wakey Wakey Nyck its time for school. Has my little boy been dreaming again ? Lots of love Mom
Weatherlights	Posted - 2007.07.21 14:21:00 - [105] Edited by: Weatherlights on 21/07/2007 14:22:24 Hey Nyck I remember that I let your wolf survive after you were warp scrambled and webbed. We offered you many times the peace and indigo but the only person who started shooting mining ships again and again where you guys. You lied the persons one after another. So you're woundering that we're breaking our NAP and helping our friends (Well we haven't broken it we quit it and we were nice enough to inform you that we will not longer watch instead of shooting you from the back). Even one of your own corps started fighting you. You and indigo are like flies. Not really dangerous but you kill my nerves. Well we left now. Have fun there with your new neighbours. Maybe they enjoy your 24h/d cloacking strategy.
Eytre	Posted - 2007.07.22 02:48:00 - [106] Originally by: Weatherlights Edited by: Weatherlights on 21/07/2007 14:37:09 Hey Nyck I remember that I let your wolf survive after you were warp scrambled and webbed. We offered you many times the peace and indigo but the only person who started shooting mining ships again and again where you guys. You lied the persons one after another. So you're woundering that we're breaking our NAP and helping our friends (Well we haven't broken it we quit it and we were nice enough to inform you that we will not longer watch instead of shooting you from the back). Even one of your own corps started fighting you. You and indigo are like flies. Not really dangerous but you kill my nerves. Well we left now. Have fun there with your new neighbours. Maybe they enjoy your 24h/d cloacking strategy. And by the way. I am not agreeing with this threat to stuff like: "go to your f*ing corner c". Sorry I replay that late. I never tought somebody would posted such stuff here.* ZOMG NECROTROLL It appears to be a new species Wilson, quick go in with your net and grab it!
Nyck Not Your Common Killers	Posted - 2007.07.22 03:00:00 - [107] Originally by: Weatherlights Edited by: Weatherlights on 21/07/2007 14:37:09 Hey Nyck I remember that I let your wolf survive after you were warp scrambled and webbed. We offered you many times the peace and indigo but the only person who started shooting mining ships again and again where you guys. You lied the persons one after another. So you're woundering that we're breaking our NAP and helping our friends (Well we haven't broken it we quit it and we were nice enough to inform you that we will not longer watch instead of shooting you from the back). Even one of your own corps started fighting you. You and indigo are like flies. Not really dangerous but you kill my nerves. Well we left now. Have fun there with your new neighbours. Maybe they enjoy your 24h/d cloacking strategy. And by the way. I am not agreeing with this threat to stuff like: "go to your f*ing corner c". Sorry I replay that late. I never tought somebody would posted such stuff here.* Wow, the fact that you had to necro this thread just to say that shows how lame you are. Dude, you left. You ran. I appreciate that. Now, please, go away, and stay gone. ----------------------------------------------- Could someone tally how many times this topic has been beat to death?
Dread Operative Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.22 06:07:00 - [108] necroftl
Lore Isander Caldari Paisti	Posted - 2007.07.22 11:24:00 - [109] NECKTROLOOLLOLOOLOOL --- How do I shot web?
Lewis Breaker	Posted - 2007.07.22 11:57:00 - [110] I say we all join forces and run these guys out of the system. guerrilla warfare. Find there ships in high sec and **** with them, flip there miners, hit and run there trade routes. I will talk to the people i roll with and see if we will come and help you out, sounds like a good campaign
Weatherlights	Posted - 2007.07.22 16:10:00 - [111] NECROTROLL
Boomershoot Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus .Ex. Machina	Posted - 2007.07.22 16:30:00 - [112] necrolock? ._. ----------------------------------------------- Forum Warfare - Rank (4) - Level V Forum Warfare Specialist - Rank (9) - Level III Armor Flame Compensation - Rank (5) - Level IV
Nyck Not Your Common Killers	Posted - 2007.07.22 16:59:00 - [113] Edited by: Nyck on 22/07/2007 17:00:08 Originally by: Lewis Breaker I say we all join forces and run these guys out of the system. guerrilla warfare. Find there ships in high sec and **** with them, flip there miners, hit and run there trade routes. I will talk to the people i roll with and see if we will come and help you out, sounds like a good campaign They've been gone for months. And, as the OP's CEO, I'm requesting a lock. I'll get her on to do the same as soon as I can. ----------------------------------------------- Could someone tally how many times this topic has been beat to death?
Indigo Emerald	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:41:00 - [114] oh for the love of all that is holy lock this thread the original post has been resolved let the NECROTROLL make a new post

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