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Toddigus Jones
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Posted - 2007.04.19 20:18:00 -
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Anyone have a clue , maybe a tech 2 drake, or myrmidon when we might see one.
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Fierce Fury
Caliber Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.19 20:36:00 -
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It would be logical for the current coomand ships' hull to be changed into tier 2 battlecruiser hulls respectively:
Myrm -> Eos Hurricane -> Sleipnir Drake -> Nighthawk HArbinger -> Absolution
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Vaine Amarr
Amarr Upright Citizens Brigade
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Posted - 2007.04.19 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Fierce Fury It would be logical for the current coomand ships' hull to be changed into tier 2 battlecruiser hulls respectively:
Myrm -> Eos Hurricane -> Sleipnir Drake -> Nighthawk HArbinger -> Absolution
*drools* __________________________ It's great beeing Amarr, ain't it?
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korrey
Taurus Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.19 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Fierce Fury It would be logical for the current coomand ships' hull to be changed into tier 2 battlecruiser hulls respectively:
Myrm -> Eos Hurricane -> Sleipnir Drake -> Nighthawk HArbinger -> Absolution
The issue with that is, people will complain. Example- Theres no way I'm letting CCP ruin my Absolution hull with that of the Harbinger...I hate the harbinger, and if they did, then they better give me my 140mil back.
Unless they can find a new role for the BC's (which I doubt they can) then I don't want them touching the ships I spent time to train for.
And if they do change one of the hulls, it better be the Fleet Command ships. They are pretty much useless anyways except the Claymore and the Eos.
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xHalcyonx
Amarr EmpiresMod
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Posted - 2007.04.19 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Vaine Amarr
Originally by: Fierce Fury It would be logical for the current coomand ships' hull to be changed into tier 2 battlecruiser hulls respectively:
Myrm -> Eos Hurricane -> Sleipnir Drake -> Nighthawk HArbinger -> Absolution
*drools*
Negative. I like the Nighthawk just how it is.
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Marquis Dean
Indigo Fade
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Posted - 2007.04.19 20:46:00 -
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What the... have CCP ever given any indication that the new BCs are getting T2 variants?
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Marduk Felzhen
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Posted - 2007.04.19 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Fierce Fury It would be logical for the current coomand ships' hull to be changed into tier 2 battlecruiser hulls respectively:
Myrm -> Eos Hurricane -> Sleipnir Drake -> Nighthawk HArbinger -> Absolution
The problem with your arguement is that i dont see how its 'logical' at all. I dont think ccp has ever replaced hulls before and i dont think they ever will. If they were to use the tech 2 bc's templates, it would be for another ship class entirely.
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Riho
Gallente Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.04.19 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Fierce Fury It would be logical for the current coomand ships' hull to be changed into tier 2 battlecruiser hulls respectively:
1. Myrm -> Eos 2 .Hurricane -> Sleipnir 3. Drake -> Nighthawk 4. HArbinger -> Absolution
in my oppinion
1. heck no.... myrm looks ugly 2. ok 3. ok 4. no... damnation yes.... black harb ftw :D
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Durethia
Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.19 21:11:00 -
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The Brutix hull is just awesome, especially if it is brown and named Astarte.
The Myrmidon... I think Gallente got hit with the ugly stick with the new ships, it really is a strange looking ship and only "looks good" because of high-res textures.
I think the T2 BCs are fine how they are, across the board. Though, I think if CCP creates T2 variants of the tier 2 BCs, they will fall in line with the difference between HAC and RECON ships (both bing T2 cruisers), or AFs versus Covert Ops (both being T2 frigates).
A T2 Myrmidon, might be optimized, in a fleet role, for further increasing the effectiveness of all warp scrambler strength/range et al. Even for the RECONs. But in a way, where solo, is just not feasible.... gang bonuses only.
Or, maybe T2 variants of Tier 2 BCs can serve field logistics operations. The current logistic ships kinda suck and are too frail to use on the battlefield. Give that role with the offerings of a BC, and we might see people actually flying around with Logistics support in their gangs.
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Dark Kavar
Caldari Aionios Diadochi
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Posted - 2007.04.19 23:15:00 -
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My dream tech II drake would have the following bonuses (boni?)
for each level of battlecruiser: 5% bonus per level to shield resistances 10% bonus per level to missile velocity (long range hams *drools*)
for each level of command ship: 5% bonus to ROF of missile launchers per level 5% bonus to missile damage per level
oh and of course 8 launcher points, and enough pg for a rack of ham launchers and a full passive tank of course 
Kind of like the Triforce in Zelda, only not quite as potent.
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Xoduse
Gallente Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.20 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Kavar My dream tech II drake would have the following bonuses (boni?)
for each level of battlecruiser: 5% bonus per level to shield resistances 10% bonus per level to missile velocity (long range hams *drools*)
for each level of command ship: 5% bonus to ROF of missile launchers per level 5% bonus to missile damage per level
oh and of course 8 launcher points, and enough pg for a rack of ham launchers and a full passive tank of course 
If I ever somehow came across a ship like that in space, I would be extremely angry... ---------------------
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korrey
Taurus Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.20 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Xoduse
Originally by: Dark Kavar My dream tech II drake would have the following bonuses (boni?)
for each level of battlecruiser: 5% bonus per level to shield resistances 10% bonus per level to missile velocity (long range hams *drools*)
for each level of command ship: 5% bonus to ROF of missile launchers per level 5% bonus to missile damage per level
oh and of course 8 launcher points, and enough pg for a rack of ham launchers and a full passive tank of course 
If I ever somehow came across a ship like that in space, I would be extremely angry...
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Morgaine Legray
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Posted - 2007.04.20 01:04:00 -
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that sounds a lot like your t2 gallante ships, dual damage bonuses and a range bonus 
sound overpowerd? cause it is lol
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.20 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Kavar My dream tech II drake would have the following bonuses (boni?)
for each level of battlecruiser: 5% bonus per level to shield resistances 10% bonus per level to missile velocity (long range hams *drools*)
for each level of command ship: 5% bonus to ROF of missile launchers per level 5% bonus to missile damage per level
oh and of course 8 launcher points, and enough pg for a rack of ham launchers and a full passive tank of course 
...you left out the ability to fit a doomsday device
Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
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Ishmael Hansen
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2007.04.20 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: korrey
Originally by: Xoduse
Originally by: Dark Kavar My dream tech II drake would have the following bonuses (boni?)
for each level of battlecruiser: 5% bonus per level to shield resistances 10% bonus per level to missile velocity (long range hams *drools*)
for each level of command ship: 5% bonus to ROF of missile launchers per level 5% bonus to missile damage per level
oh and of course 8 launcher points, and enough pg for a rack of ham launchers and a full passive tank of course 
If I ever somehow came across a ship like that in space, I would be extremely angry...
And extremely dead 
PAssive tank and room for tackling? There is a reason Caldari ships don't pvp solo, except the crow.
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Dark Kavar
Caldari Aionios Diadochi
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Posted - 2007.04.20 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ishmael Hansen
Originally by: korrey
Originally by: Xoduse
Originally by: Dark Kavar My dream tech II drake would have the following bonuses (boni?)
for each level of battlecruiser: 5% bonus per level to shield resistances 10% bonus per level to missile velocity (long range hams *drools*)
for each level of command ship: 5% bonus to ROF of missile launchers per level 5% bonus to missile damage per level
oh and of course 8 launcher points, and enough pg for a rack of ham launchers and a full passive tank of course 
If I ever somehow came across a ship like that in space, I would be extremely angry...
And extremely dead 
PAssive tank and room for tackling? There is a reason Caldari ships don't pvp solo, except the crow.
It's possible to passive tank and tackle, just harder and more expensive and you have to hope they aren't too much faster than you 
Kind of like the Triforce in Zelda, only not quite as potent.
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Jackal79
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Posted - 2007.04.20 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Morgaine Legray that sounds a lot like your t2 gallante ships, dual damage bonuses and a range bonus 
sound overpowerd? cause it is lol
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Father Weebles
North Face Force Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.20 05:54:00 -
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seeing that the myrmidon's tank is already overpowered in comparison to the rest of the bcs, id hate to see a t2 version of it, and the drake as well.
"Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control."
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Akira Cortana
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Posted - 2007.04.20 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: xHalcyonx
Originally by: Vaine Amarr
Originally by: Fierce Fury It would be logical for the current coomand ships' hull to be changed into tier 2 battlecruiser hulls respectively:
Myrm -> Eos Hurricane -> Sleipnir Drake -> Nighthawk HArbinger -> Absolution
*drools*
Negative. I like the Nighthawk just how it is.
Your right, i love the nighthawk having less shield/armor/hull/PG than a drake, with 1 less launcher(with rof bonus nighthawk squeeks past with a little more dps). seriously nighthawk is the pwn :S
Akira Cortana
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Nian Banks
Minmatar Berserkers of Aesir
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Posted - 2007.04.20 08:08:00 -
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Enough with the "Swap Field Command Ship Hulls with Tier2 Battlecruiser's" crap, We want more t2 ships not the same amount but with some removed and some added.
Lets just have new T2 BC's, How about if they all gain an Ewar and Velocity bonus? Could be fun. Other than that, give them a slightly increased base resist and a little more cpu/grid.
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Aioa
Planetary Assault Systems
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Posted - 2007.04.20 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Fierce Fury Myrm -> Eos Hurricane -> Sleipnir Drake -> Nighthawk HArbinger -> Absolution
Doesnt make much sense - Eos is a fleet command, all the others are field commands...
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Fon Revedhort
Aeria Gloris Inc United Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.20 10:57:00 -
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Edited by: Fon Revedhort on 20/04/2007 10:56:23
Originally by: Fierce Fury It would be logical for the current coomand ships' hull to be changed into tier 2 battlecruiser hulls respectively:
Myrm -> Eos Hurricane -> Sleipnir Drake -> Nighthawk HArbinger -> Absolution
Please, go check slot amounts on tier 2 and tech 2 BCs.
Why the hell this stupid transplantation idea has been risen again? 
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Tassill
Minmatar GREY COUNCIL
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Posted - 2007.04.20 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Fierce Fury It would be logical for the current coomand ships' hull to be changed into tier 2 battlecruiser hulls respectively:
Myrm -> Eos Hurricane -> Sleipnir Drake -> Nighthawk HArbinger -> Absolution
This isnt a good idea if u ask me.
The reason being that the bonus's and slot layouts of the tier 2 bc's dont fit the slot layouts of the command ships they would become. eg the hurrcane has 6 lows and the Sleipnir only has 5 who heard of a t2 ship loosing slots???
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Sniser
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.20 12:22:00 -
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i would love a tier3 command with tier2bc hull.
One harbinger with: - 10% cap energy weapons reduction per level - 5% damage energy weapons per level
- 10% optimal energy weapons per level - 5% rof energy weapons per level
and 8 turrets would be my dream :D
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Horus Dark
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Posted - 2007.04.20 12:32:00 -
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WTB faction BC's aswell we got frigs/cruis and BS. where are the bcs? :)
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Galen Silas
Gallente Lucky Hydra Corp SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 14:07:00 -
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Eos = Myrmidon Hull
Nighthawk = Drake Hull
Absolution = Harbinger Hull
Sleipnir = Hurricane
Seems right, I have been thinking the same thing for a long time, would certainly vary things up a bit as far as looks go 
Keep the same bonus's though, though I don't think they would change em anyways.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2007.04.20 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Fierce Fury It would be logical for the current coomand ships' hull to be changed into tier 2 battlecruiser hulls respectively:
Myrm -> Eos Hurricane -> Sleipnir Drake -> Nighthawk HArbinger -> Absolution
Oh Hurricane please!
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.04.20 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Fierce Fury It would be logical for the current coomand ships' hull to be changed into tier 2 battlecruiser hulls respectively:
Myrm -> Eos Hurricane -> Sleipnir Drake -> Nighthawk HArbinger -> Absolution
I agree whole heartedly! ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
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Nian Banks
Minmatar Berserkers of Aesir
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
Originally by: Fierce Fury It would be logical for the current coomand ships' hull to be changed into tier 2 battlecruiser hulls respectively:
Myrm -> Eos Hurricane -> Sleipnir Drake -> Nighthawk HArbinger -> Absolution
I agree whole heartedly!
You unholy sods leave my our bloody Sleipnir alone, Many people like the shield tanking tank + gank bonuses of the Sleipnir and wouldn't want some mongrels stuffing it up. If you must have a t2 hurricane then get ccp to make a new T2 BC class.
Also as someone said before, Where the hell are our faction BC's?
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Xoduse
Originally by: Dark Kavar My dream tech II drake would have the following bonuses (boni?)
for each level of battlecruiser: 5% bonus per level to shield resistances 10% bonus per level to missile velocity (long range hams *drools*)
for each level of command ship: 5% bonus to ROF of missile launchers per level 5% bonus to missile damage per level
oh and of course 8 launcher points, and enough pg for a rack of ham launchers and a full passive tank of course 
If I ever somehow came across a ship like that in space, I would be extremely angry...
If you get that, can I get a myrmidon with -
7.5% bonus to armor repair amount per level 20% (or is it 10? dunno) Bonus to Drone damage + HP per level
100m3 more dronebay per level (double bonus)
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