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Complex Potential
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Posted - 2007.04.22 12:17:00 -
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I'm sure this has been done before and I'm sure the Vagabond will get many mentions, but when it comes to a trade off between cost, speed, tank and dps I have to go with the Ishkur.
Yes it's gonna struggle with anything bigger than a cruiser but it's great fun, can out cap most cruiser sized ships (and smaller) and is fairly safe to move around low sec with outlaw status. I'd also happily take it up against any other AF.
Only drawback is it's drone reliancy.
CP
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2007.04.22 12:22:00 -
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Vulture for me - So versatile, one of the few caldari ships which is a competent solo ship, and damn is it nice looking :)
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.22 12:41:00 -
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pilgrim for me. hands down. the only ship that i can comfortable go through any low sec area trecking 100 jumps knowing it's extremely unlikely that any camps/blobs i run into will kill me while i'm travelling.
DE
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.22 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf pilgrim for me. hands down. the only ship that i can comfortable go through any low sec area trecking 100 jumps knowing it's extremely unlikely that any camps/blobs i run into will kill me while i'm travelling.
DE
The major thing I have against the pilgrim is that as a solo-piwat ship it really sucks when your opponent knows that your only offense is your drones. xD
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.04.22 13:02:00 -
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Rapier, b/c going up against a close range turretship you can web/scram it from outside it's weapon range. Then slowly pound the **** out of it until it's cap fails. Can't touch this! ______________________
Interested? |

Mephistophilis
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.22 13:03:00 -
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It used to be the thorax but it doesn't cut it against the new BC's if well fitted up. I love the domi but it's too slow to lock some ships down sometimes. Me thinks i'll finally have to go for t2 cruisers and bC's......
The gallente recons are sweet, i use them on my other account but not for pirating
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.22 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: DarkElf on 22/04/2007 13:04:12
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: DarkElf pilgrim for me. hands down. the only ship that i can comfortable go through any low sec area trecking 100 jumps knowing it's extremely unlikely that any camps/blobs i run into will kill me while i'm travelling.
DE
The major thing I have against the pilgrim is that as a solo-piwat ship it really sucks when your opponent knows that your only offense is your drones. xD
sssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
DE
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar Temptation inc. Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2007.04.22 13:14:00 -
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vagabond or nidhoggur( with a cyno alt)
used to be tempest... but meh..
TEMPTATION INC. Killboard |

Nidhoggur
The Movement
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Posted - 2007.04.22 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Complex Potential
Yes it's gonna struggle with anything bigger than a cruiser but it's great fun, can out cap most cruiser sized ships (and smaller) and is fairly safe to move around low sec with outlaw status. I'd also happily take it up against any other AF.
CP
Hmm, fair enough, I've personally stopped using AFs for a while, mainly because I feel distinctly vulnerable flying something that can be emptied by a few Nos (Which all the cool kids fit these days)
Vexor and Thorax are lovely ships for fun 1 v 1s.
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Dr Cron
Northern Lights Number 5
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Posted - 2007.04.22 14:16:00 -
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Rax will own an ishkur... AFs suck balls
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.22 14:21:00 -
[11]
Curse.
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Wind Ictiva
Delta Kappa Gamma
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Posted - 2007.04.22 14:24:00 -
[12]
Rifter, but then i mostly do the dying:)
its versatile: decent speed, decent dps, plenty cpu and grid for my purposes.
but mostly, its dirt, dirt cheap and makes me do fun, stupid things:)
as an extra bonus, it makes a pleasant poping sound when i die.
I was young and needed the money |

Hazkr Rwzk
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.22 14:34:00 -
[13]
brutix 7 ions <3 the gankage.
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Templer Relleg
Exit 13 Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.22 14:58:00 -
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Anything with speed. Zooom Zoooom!   Atm. its the stabber. Im checking out some BC's aswell, like the cyclone.
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Complex Potential
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Posted - 2007.04.22 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Cron Rax will own an ishkur... AFs suck balls
Thorax is high on my list of fav pvp ships. Most AF would struggle against a cruiser but the Ishkur is unique. I'd be willing to bet it would give a rax a run for it's money.
Still, no promises.
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Requiescat
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Posted - 2007.04.22 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Complex Potential
Originally by: Dr Cron Rax will own an ishkur... AFs suck balls
Thorax is high on my list of fav pvp ships. Most AF would struggle against a cruiser but the Ishkur is unique. I'd be willing to bet it would give a rax a run for it's money.
Still, no promises.
Good luck killing (with blasters) a boat that has 85% natural kinetic and 60% natural thermal resistance on its shields. Then go to the armor, where it's even worse, and they're most likely tanked harder than natural anyway. --=-- I turned off "show corp/alliance" because, to be frank, I'm ashamed of them. They'll be turned back on when I'm somewhere more suitable for someone of my talents. |

Grant Smith
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.22 15:44:00 -
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Megathron for sure. The only thing it fails to is EW. But doesn't everyship succumb to Ew?
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Dr Cron
Northern Lights Number 5
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Posted - 2007.04.22 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Requiescat
Originally by: Complex Potential
Originally by: Dr Cron Rax will own an ishkur... AFs suck balls
Thorax is high on my list of fav pvp ships. Most AF would struggle against a cruiser but the Ishkur is unique. I'd be willing to bet it would give a rax a run for it's money.
Still, no promises.
Good luck killing (with blasters) a boat that has 85% natural kinetic and 60% natural thermal resistance on its shields. Then go to the armor, where it's even worse, and they're most likely tanked harder than natural anyway.
Isn't that why they invented Valkryie IIs?
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.04.22 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Rapier, b/c going up against a close range turretship you can web/scram it from outside it's weapon range. Then slowly pound the **** out of it until it's cap fails. Can't touch this!
OK CP's going to scold me for this cause I can't kill anything bigger than a destroyer with it, but...
I <3 my Crusader. Duban, we share a similar taste in pwnage.
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Gen Kumon
Caldari The Wrathe Shipyards
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Posted - 2007.04.22 17:13:00 -
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'phoon if I can afford it. If not, pretty much any BC will do, as long as I'm careful about who I attack. And even if the 'phoon's more effective, I have more fun in battlecruisers. Usually a Ferox in the past, Drake nowadays, with a Proph or Hurricane every now and then to liven things up.
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Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.22 17:13:00 -
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deimos/domi/pilgrim/huggin/vaga -------------------- My sig was stolen from some website.. leet!
The true Industrial capital ship! |

Captin Lawdogg
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.22 17:29:00 -
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I love using a T2 fitted thorax for solo killing, the thorax is such a fun ship.
The other guy is right when he says its though taking on the newer BCs with it, but not impossibile, just shoose your tgts wisely. I found a 2 month old Drake ratting last night and popped him, it was very close however, I was at 2% structure when he popped 
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Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.22 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Captin Lawdogg I love using a T2 fitted thorax for solo killing, the thorax is such a fun ship.
The other guy is right when he says its though taking on the newer BCs with it, but not impossibile, just shoose your tgts wisely. I found a 2 month old Drake ratting last night and popped him, it was very close however, I was at 2% structure when he popped 
close call! -------------------- My sig was stolen from some website.. leet!
The true Industrial capital ship! |

brenda over
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Posted - 2007.04.22 17:54:00 -
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for me it has to be a t2 fitted rupture. as posted above iv taken a cyclone and a drake out with it with the help of some ecm dronage, wiped the floor with any other t1 cruiser (t2 dual 180's ftw :)
possible not as fun as the stabber to fly but deffo capable of killing much bigger targets
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Captin Lawdogg
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.22 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: Captin Lawdogg on 22/04/2007 18:17:26 Edited by: Captin Lawdogg on 22/04/2007 18:15:33 FRAPS from the drake kill, would not have been so close had I not ran out of cap 
Thorax VS Drake
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.22 18:20:00 -
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Everyone knows the pirate's favourite is the ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRbitrator 
...sorry 
>>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.22 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Captin Lawdogg Edited by: Captin Lawdogg on 22/04/2007 18:17:26 Edited by: Captin Lawdogg on 22/04/2007 18:15:33 FRAPS from the drake kill, would not have been so close had I not ran out of cap 
Thorax VS Drake
Rax pilot musta started to sweat it there, a very close awsome fight. Rax pilot knew his ship well.
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Captin Lawdogg
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.22 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: ReePeR McAllem
Originally by: Captin Lawdogg Edited by: Captin Lawdogg on 22/04/2007 18:17:26 Edited by: Captin Lawdogg on 22/04/2007 18:15:33 FRAPS from the drake kill, would not have been so close had I not ran out of cap 
Thorax VS Drake
Rax pilot musta started to sweat it there, a very close awsome fight. Rax pilot knew his ship well.
Yeah that was the best fight I have had, I almost warped out but it was so close I had to wait it out
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William DeMeo
Gallente Serial Killers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.22 18:40:00 -
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Vexor! Best T1 cruiser imo and the only ship I can fly relativly well, and it's very cheap. Can't afford many Myrms or Domi's. Only downside is it's not as hawt as the Arbi But the arbi looks a bit frail! Yarr |

Plaetean
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.22 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Captin Lawdogg Edited by: Captin Lawdogg on 22/04/2007 18:17:26 Edited by: Captin Lawdogg on 22/04/2007 18:15:33 FRAPS from the drake kill, would not have been so close had I not ran out of cap 
Thorax VS Drake
Very nice fight, shame to see the drake pilot logged though 
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Captin Lawdogg
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.22 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Plaetean
Originally by: Captin Lawdogg Edited by: Captin Lawdogg on 22/04/2007 18:17:26 Edited by: Captin Lawdogg on 22/04/2007 18:15:33 FRAPS from the drake kill, would not have been so close had I not ran out of cap 
Thorax VS Drake
Very nice fight, shame to see the drake pilot logged though 
Yeah he claimed he logged to "save his pod" 
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major lulz
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Posted - 2007.04.22 19:14:00 -
[32]
incursus
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Saint Lazarus
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Posted - 2007.04.22 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Cron Rax will own an ishkur... AFs suck balls
L O L
You get a decent rax pilot against a bad Ishkur pilot course hes gonna win but you have anyone who has the first clue what hes at Ishkur'll *****any rax
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Dr Cron
Northern Lights Number 5
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Posted - 2007.04.22 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Cron on 22/04/2007 20:11:13
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Originally by: Dr Cron Rax will own an ishkur... AFs suck balls
L O L
You get a decent rax pilot against a bad Ishkur pilot course hes gonna win but you have anyone who has the first clue what hes at Ishkur'll *****any rax
Not to argue but thats rediculous man. I've never found any t2 frig that will *****my rax. Ishkur can definitely come close, but considering I'm set up with light t2 guns, valk IIs and a 1600 plate, I'm 100% confident in my statement.
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Saint Lazarus
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Posted - 2007.04.22 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Cron Edited by: Dr Cron on 22/04/2007 20:17:14
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Originally by: Dr Cron Rax will own an ishkur... AFs suck balls
L O L
You get a decent rax pilot against a bad Ishkur pilot course hes gonna win but you have anyone who has the first clue what hes at Ishkur'll *****any rax
Not to argue but thats rediculous man. I've never found any t2 frig that will *****my rax. Ishkur can definitely come close. If the ishkur pilot uses their mwd to evade my web and their rep to tank my drones, they will run out of cap before I do and thus be webbed. Considering I'm set up with 5 light t2 guns, valk IIs and a 1600 plate, I'm 100% confident in my statement.
I have a mate whos really gonna wanna meet you 
You ever up near lonetrek, would be a fight I'd love to see and Im pretty sure he'd go for it 
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.04.22 20:38:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Verone
Everyone knows the pirate's favourite is the ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRbitrator 
...sorry 
Lol +1 man...You apologize, but the arbitrator - is it viable?
And how about the Maller for solo piracy?
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Major Stormer
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.04.22 20:53:00 -
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Low sec pvping has gotten me drooling over the hurricane.
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4rc4ng3L
Gallente Blood Stained Angels
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Posted - 2007.04.22 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: 4rc4ng3L on 22/04/2007 21:03:52
Originally by: Dr Cron Edited by: Dr Cron on 22/04/2007 20:17:14
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Originally by: Dr Cron Rax will own an ishkur... AFs suck balls
L O L
You get a decent rax pilot against a bad Ishkur pilot course hes gonna win but you have anyone who has the first clue what hes at Ishkur'll *****any rax
Not to argue but thats rediculous man. I've never found any t2 frig that will *****my rax. Ishkur can definitely come close. If the ishkur pilot uses their mwd to evade my web and their rep to tank my drones, they will run out of cap before I do and thus be webbed. Considering I'm set up with 5 light t2 guns, valk IIs and a 1600 plate, I'm 100% confident in my statement.
I fly ishkur 90% of the time.... I know how to use that ship in a way that only god intended.... I can safely say i would kill almost any cruiser in it.... But..... as much as it pains me you are right!
I use the 4xNos setup Ishkur then drones for damage, can easily *****any other AF's. But your Thorax has the advantage.
1. If you use Nos in highs then your not doing enough damage but i couldnt keep cap up long enough to take you out.
2. If you use all blasters i cannot take ALL that damage as well and take out your drones then still have a stable cap setup to continue kicking your ass
3. If you use a Web.... well... i cant tank long enough to attempt anything worthwhile.
IF you didnt have drones then im pretty sure i could take the Rax, but as it is the ishkur just comes up short of doing the job. That said, nearly everyone underestimates the ishkur and when you do that you can kiss your ship good bye.
ALSO Ishkur is without a doubt the best pirate ship ingame, for solo work anyway... 4xNos drain the smaller ships in seconds, then web/scram... completely disable the ship! you can even be evil and play with their ship before releasing the drones to **** em up real good! After all..... pirating is all about the mental damage, **** the ship 
Death is the only true freedom, brought on by our own ignorance.... Welcome to the "free" world in which we live... |

Kha0s
Privateers
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Posted - 2007.04.22 21:28:00 -
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Incursus. Seriously. Not only does it look badass, it's cheap, fast, and packs a decent punch for a t1 frig. I'm confident against most cruisers I come up against in it, apart from a few ones I know will have nos fitted. Practically anything else is fair game through. It's able to kill anything smaller in seconds normally, and can give some of the ceptors a run for their money. With the help of a friend in a puni, I've killed an Harpy before. Managed to solo a prophecy today as well. Almost had a ferox too, but I had to warp out when he was on 30% structure. If he didnt have 2 assault missiles fitted he was mine. I've only lost a handful of them so far, and taken down a considerable number of ships with em. The best thing is, if you do die, you can afford another few hundred thousand replacements 
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slothe
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.22 23:11:00 -
[40]
eos / astarte
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.22 23:25:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Jex Jast
Lol +1 man...You apologize, but the arbitrator - is it viable?
And how about the Maller for solo piracy?
Arby is perfectly viable... :)
>>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
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Kyozoku
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.04.23 00:24:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Originally by: Dr Cron Rax will own an ishkur... AFs suck balls
L O L
You get a decent rax pilot against a bad Ishkur pilot course hes gonna win but you have anyone who has the first clue what hes at Ishkur'll *****any rax
Even an osprey spanks ishkurs in the hands of a good player. You're kidding yourself.
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Grant Smith
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.23 00:54:00 -
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Whats the deal with no one using BS for solo piracy? Whats happened to the modern pirate world? Everyone too afraid to use Battleships out solo or do they just feel they are completely incompetent at getting the job done solo?
From my perspective, most piracy takes place at gates or stations nowadays. Belt piracy is none-existant (almost) and probing missioners is nire-impossible, so I can't see how using battle cruisers or anything smaller is a viable way to pirate.
Right from when I was a nub pirate in 2005, I've always used a battleship on the most part, and right to this day I continue to do so. The only thing thats changed is I've moved from the Armageddon/Apoc to the Megathron, and ofcourse specialised. 
How those of you who like anything smaller than battleships best, or even pirate in anything smaller than battleships period, is beyond me. It's just so damn impractical!
Sentry Tanking 4tw 
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.04.23 03:18:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Grant Smith Whats the deal with no one using BS for solo piracy? Whats happened to the modern pirate world? Everyone too afraid to use Battleships out solo or do they just feel they are completely incompetent at getting the job done solo?
From my perspective, most piracy takes place at gates or stations nowadays. Belt piracy is none-existant (almost) and probing missioners is nire-impossible, so I can't see how using battle cruisers or anything smaller is a viable way to pirate.
Right from when I was a nub pirate in 2005, I've always used a battleship on the most part, and right to this day I continue to do so. The only thing thats changed is I've moved from the Armageddon/Apoc to the Megathron, and ofcourse specialised. 
How those of you who like anything smaller than battleships best, or even pirate in anything smaller than battleships period, is beyond me. It's just so damn impractical!
Sentry Tanking 4tw 
Well I made my first try at gate camping, in a prophecy, today, and it worked out alright. Obviously I can't hold steady against it, and catching stuff is annoyingly difficult, but it works reasonably well.
Anything below a BC, however, is doomed. I heard once that a duramaller could do it, but that'd be a rare exception.
Drakes btw are apparently extremely good tankers...enough to be comfortable tanking sentries for a long time. Passively too, if I remember/heard correctly.
Those of us who use smaller ships still cling to the dream of belt piracy...it happens now and again, but yeah, gates and stations have hundreds more ships per hour than any belt cluster.
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Gruxella
Vale Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.23 04:49:00 -
[45]
For high sec, no sec loss griefing, I like to fly an Iteron Nark V. You can get some hell-a fun fights that way :)
For low sec, and everything else, I like my domi :) Need something hauled? |

John Bishop
Caldari Blood Sweat and Tears
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Posted - 2007.04.23 05:08:00 -
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i had some of my best 1v1 fights in my tempy and had one hell of a 1v3 ass kicking (me doing the ass kicking) in my tempy. i loved that ship.
but now im gonna try out the maelstrom i had some luck with it on sisi before i had to take a 4 month break from eve. maybe it works maybe it wont but im gonna giver her hell anyways
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Large Beam Spec 5 is a really good skill to have, because it almost puts you on a par with people using T1 projectiles. [:lol:
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Templer Relleg
Exit 13 Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.23 05:21:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Jex Jast
Lol +1 man...You apologize, but the arbitrator - is it viable?
And how about the Maller for solo piracy?
Arby is perfectly viable... :)
Yes, the arby is very nice. Sucky sucky, with drones and tracking disruptor... It's one of the perfect solo ships.
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MaxSkywalker
x13 Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.23 07:07:00 -
[48]
Edited by: MaxSkywalker on 23/04/2007 07:04:44 Dominix / Myrmidon ..
Fitted with some t2 mods and rigs they can usually win 2, maybe 3 - 1 odds..
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.23 07:22:00 -
[49]
Stabber, Vexor, Myrmidon and Arbitrator all rock for solo Yarrrrin'
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Merin Ryskin
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.23 07:22:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 23/04/2007 07:19:28 For effectiveness: Pilgrim, by far. Nos-drone-ewar boats are good. Nos-drone-ewar boats with covert ops cloaks are better. The covert ops cloak is possibly the second most useful module for piracy, second only to warp scramblers. The advantage you get is that huge, both in setting up the perfect ambush and avoiding fights you don't want. Max-skill TDs make quick work of PvP gunboats, and the combination of nos + good drone dps gives you a good range of possible targets.
For style points: fully Serpentis-fitted Vigilant. Now retired after the release of tier-2 BCs and a few too many near misses, but THAT was piracy in style!
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Karim alRashid
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Posted - 2007.04.23 08:39:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Captin Lawdogg Edited by: Captin Lawdogg on 22/04/2007 18:17:26 Edited by: Captin Lawdogg on 22/04/2007 18:15:33 FRAPS from the drake kill, would not have been so close had I not ran out of cap 
Thorax VS Drake
Grats, very nice.
In retrospect, couldn't you save some cap by running only one or two of the hardeners ?
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Spaced Skunk
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.23 09:20:00 -
[52]
Sliepnir, Hurricane and Vagaspoons.
Also nanodrake?
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.23 10:18:00 -
[53]
For isk generation it's gotta be the 4 disruptor drake.
For just plain looking pimp my rattlesnake (even though it's use is limited)
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Tallianna Avenkarde
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.23 15:01:00 -
[54]
Eos with T2 Blasters
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Liang Nuren
Red 42 CORE.
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Posted - 2007.04.23 17:13:00 -
[55]
I like the Celestis and BB for pirating, when I can find a gang. The most fun I've had was a BB/Celestis/Gankrax gang... I got ganked by a blue in the end though.
For solo piracy, I like the Vexor. I think I'd like the ARRRRRRRbitrator more if I were skilled for it. I'd probably like the Myrmidon if it wasn't for the price tag of losing it. ;-)
In the end, the "best pirate ship" boils down to how you like to play.
Liang
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Aille Pluthrak
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.23 17:16:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Requiescat
Originally by: Complex Potential
Originally by: Dr Cron Rax will own an ishkur... AFs suck balls
Thorax is high on my list of fav pvp ships. Most AF would struggle against a cruiser but the Ishkur is unique. I'd be willing to bet it would give a rax a run for it's money.
Still, no promises.
Good luck killing (with blasters) a boat that has 85% natural kinetic and 60% natural thermal resistance on its shields. Then go to the armor, where it's even worse, and they're most likely tanked harder than natural anyway.
Aren't those the resists for the Deimos? Could swear the poster was talking about a Thorax. ---------------------- Boom goes the ship! Squish goes the pilot!
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.04.23 20:33:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Liang Nuren I like the Celestis and BB for pirating, when I can find a gang. The most fun I've had was a BB/Celestis/Gankrax gang... I got ganked by a blue in the end though.
For solo piracy, I like the Vexor. I think I'd like the ARRRRRRRbitrator more if I were skilled for it. I'd probably like the Myrmidon if it wasn't for the price tag of losing it. ;-)
In the end, the "best pirate ship" boils down to how you like to play.
Liang
Are you a politician? You just did a very large loop around the question...
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.23 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: ElCoCo on 23/04/2007 21:21:12 Eos with blasters, a grid rig and a + to armor repairer rig for dual reps looks spiffy.
edit: don't forget your medslot ECCM and your webber drones 
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Captin Lawdogg
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.23 22:30:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Captin Lawdogg on 23/04/2007 22:27:40
Originally by: Karim alRashid
Originally by: Captin Lawdogg Edited by: Captin Lawdogg on 22/04/2007 18:17:26 Edited by: Captin Lawdogg on 22/04/2007 18:15:33 FRAPS from the drake kill, would not have been so close had I not ran out of cap 
Thorax VS Drake
Grats, very nice.
In retrospect, couldn't you save some cap by running only one or two of the hardeners ?
Yes definately could have, I got carried away and didnt even think about them until it was too late. 
Edit: I prolly could have turned a couple of blasters off for a bit as well.
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Admiral Annihilation
Life. Universe. Everything. Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.23 22:55:00 -
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I love my rifter. 3 AC's and a rocket launcher works wonders. Just today I got a crow down to 50 hull hp before he poped me in the nic of time :) Almost taking a 20m+ ship in a 800k setup is a good fealing. Also took down a moa with some nice t2 eq. this week.
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.23 23:07:00 -
[61]
Originally by: ElCoCo eos, webber drones

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R3dSh1ft
Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.23 23:38:00 -
[62]
For touring I like the crow - its able to avoid situations and you can scout areas quickly and even get a few cheap kills on the way, but its not much for bigger ships and sentries hurt.
At the end of the day you have to be adaptable and avoid sticking to any one combat philosophy for too long. People adapt! ______________________________________
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Liang Nuren
Red 42 CORE.
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Posted - 2007.04.24 00:14:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Jex Jast
Originally by: Liang Nuren I like the Celestis and BB for pirating, when I can find a gang. The most fun I've had was a BB/Celestis/Gankrax gang... I got ganked by a blue in the end though.
For solo piracy, I like the Vexor. I think I'd like the ARRRRRRRbitrator more if I were skilled for it. I'd probably like the Myrmidon if it wasn't for the price tag of losing it. ;-)
In the end, the "best pirate ship" boils down to how you like to play.
Liang
Are you a politician? You just did a very large loop around the question...
No, I'm a software developer. ;-)
I think it was a "it depends on who's with me". For a single answer: Vexor.
Liang
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Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.24 00:24:00 -
[64]
Nanophoon.  -
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Temugen
Crimson Squall
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Posted - 2007.04.24 00:39:00 -
[65]
you know...its a depends thing (and im not talking underwear :P )
for gate camping with friends the muninn is awesome..incredible lock time, massive damage, and can tank its share of sentrys with my setup. the solo part comes in if your waiting at a gate for smaller ships...insta pops most frigs and takes out cruisers before the sentrys make me warp out.
for just straight solo pirating in belts and waiting for ppl to attack at belt/stations cause they think they can take you out...the ishtar rules.
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Stakhanov
Shih Yang Tong
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Posted - 2007.04.24 01:14:00 -
[66]
Depends on the mood really. Sometimes I just want brute force from the ole rax to squash weak ships within reach. Sometimes I feel sneaky and use the celestis to mess with bigger stuff. Both ships are good for gangs anyway , I don't like soloing for long.
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Audemed
Wraiths Reborn Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.24 10:39:00 -
[67]
Depends on a couple of things, one of the primary factors is what region you're going to be pirating in (hunting NPC'ers in catch with amarr ships, boooo).
Zealot for taking out large(ish) targets with short range (scorch + 24km scram), or long range and dont have an excess of nos (conflag). MWD is nice to dictate range on most ships bigger than frigs.
Stabber for general griefing behind enemy lines. It's hard to lose a stabber.....
Harbinger/Proph for killing people in non-sansha lowsec/0.0
Hurricane for killing people just about anywhere.
Absolution for when i feel like losing money (CS = blob magnet )
Fleet issue stabber (faction fit FTW) for when you want any combat to be a rush because you're paranoid as hell that everything's bait to take your beautiful shiny ship away from you.
Oh, and as for the ishkur vs rax issue...Ishkur would win. ------ Currently stationed in Iraq, 190 days left to go!
PVP in EvE is consentual, you agree to it when you login.
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Johnny Gurkha
Caldari Villains
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Posted - 2007.04.24 11:04:00 -
[68]
Thorax for cheap T1 fun, with an 800mm plate you can survive sentry fire long enough to kill a frig or hauler... for general undocking chaos and downright gatecamping pwnage I like the Drake - 2 of these on a gate or station will give any pilot a heart attack 
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Dr Jamius
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Posted - 2007.04.24 17:37:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Dr Jamius on 24/04/2007 17:36:48 Until I've access to T2 ships, the Drake is my favourite solo ride. Spend an extra 100mil on T2 fittings/rigs and have a ball tanking 1v1 any ship you encounter. They nos you.. doesn't matter, your cap runs out, you still tank, and with no cap left for them to suck they start losing their cap repairing. A rack of heavy missile launchers will eventually break the tank of most ships you encounter. I had a classic fight the other night. Probing out two Myrmidons in a safe, I decided to go Rambo and take them on. The first managed to warp out in structure, the second was down to 40% armour or so. The first Myrmidon returned... still my shield tank was holding at around 70%, and the second ship was going down. Unfortunately they had a mate warp in with a Typhoon and I eventually went pop, but that was one hell of a twenty minute fight, with no smack talk on the end, just compliments on my badassness and a O/ in return. ;) Building another yesterday, changed the fittings a little for slightly less tank and more gank, and managed a nice solo Scorpion kill, also raping a Brutix, until she called in her little gank squad to get her out of trouble. Still she paid for that misdemeanor a little later when the tables were turned and down went her Rokh, with her little friends in a Myrmidon and Hyperion (Myrmidon, Rokh and Hyperion vs one Eos and two Ravens- blaster ships ftw but they lost :) ) running like hell. Oh how she whined... :D
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Azael Lightshade
Amarr V i L e
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Posted - 2007.04.24 18:43:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Azael Lightshade on 24/04/2007 18:41:45
Zealot
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Special Eddy
Special Edd Bus
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Posted - 2007.04.26 09:41:00 -
[71]
Tbh you pretty much cant go wrong with a curse.
And you dont even need to speed tank it, just a couple of speed mods mixed with an armour tank and you go alot faster than anythign other than a frig, and those die in seconds due to having no cap after 1 volly of nos :)
Damps - speed - faction scrambler - light tank for drones (kill there drones first) - and a couple of heavy missile launchers for extra dps
Oh yeah, talisman set is also very much 4tw i find :)
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Shiela
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Posted - 2007.04.26 20:17:00 -
[72]
Rocket Kestrel due to cheapness and the satisfaction of killing large ships in it.
Also Blackbird if I know what type of ship I am facing.
3X HML's 1X Med NOS 1X 20K scram 1X 10K web 1X SBII 3X Racial Jammers 2X Hypnos Distortion amps (or 1 BCU)
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LudoO
Gallente OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.26 20:24:00 -
[73]
The thorax, had some great memories with that.  The next best thing after kicking ass is to talk about kicking ass. |

Don Carn'age
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.26 20:30:00 -
[74]
Macheriel is proving itself as a solo versatile ship, can escape trouble mighty quick too.
For 'cheaper' pvp id recommend yes, the vagabond sabre or the eos! Curse goes down well too.
DonC [INFOD] 'Molden Heath Security Task Force Kommandent' [url=www.infinitus-odium.com/killboard/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=58039] [/url] |

Hannobaal
Gallente Utopian Frontier
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Posted - 2007.04.26 20:40:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Aille Pluthrak
Originally by: Requiescat
Originally by: Complex Potential
Originally by: Dr Cron Rax will own an ishkur... AFs suck balls
Thorax is high on my list of fav pvp ships. Most AF would struggle against a cruiser but the Ishkur is unique. I'd be willing to bet it would give a rax a run for it's money.
Still, no promises.
Good luck killing (with blasters) a boat that has 85% natural kinetic and 60% natural thermal resistance on its shields. Then go to the armor, where it's even worse, and they're most likely tanked harder than natural anyway.
Aren't those the resists for the Deimos? Could swear the poster was talking about a Thorax.
Those are the resists for the Ishkur. That's what he was talking about.
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Arx Impera
Amarr Gr0und Zer0
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Posted - 2007.04.26 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Arx Impera on 26/04/2007 22:54:59 For things I fly, I LOVE the duramaller...
Incredible armor carried by HAC resistances, enough nos to bleed people out and better damage then what the DPS in quickfits make it look like, simply for the fact that if tracking is so high its excellent hits after excellent hits...
It can have a number of different builds, but what really makes me like it its the tank; I've fought outnumbered against people older then me and still won. I've killed all of the typical pwncruisers, Vexor, Thorax, Rupture (thou this one is pure trouble passive tanked and no weapon cap make it a ***** to kill), Caracal, Arbitrator, in 1v1, 1v2, 1v3... Even the odd battlecruiser or 2.
And for things I wish to fly very soon, Nanocurse seems perfect...Its THE solopwnmobile. Enough nos to break everyone, enough EW to retain its superiority, as fast as the typical vagabond and can still have a shield tank worth mentioning, all self sustainable.
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Cordelia Simonova
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.27 02:57:00 -
[77]
Manticore.
Sure packs a punch for a little ship.
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WildSide
Toys R Us R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.27 07:23:00 -
[78]
cheap: Ishtar
expersive: Navy Mega
But I dont fly the last one without scout..and rarly solo.
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