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Shadowhawk38
Ender Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.04.23 20:58:00 -
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A thief recently stole nearly everything from our corp hangar. My corporation is small, and we trusted everyone. I've been apointed director now to make sure this doesn't happen again. Can someone give me a crash course on corporation management? [url=http://profile.xfire.com/shadowhawk38][/url] |

Archilies
The Wild Hunt
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Posted - 2007.04.23 21:04:00 -
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keep things in corp hangars in vaults keep the roles confined to certain members keep anything above 2mil worth, locked

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NeverL
Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.23 21:05:00 -
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only give access to valuable items if u really trust 100% ----------------- My dream is to become the best forum warrior there is. Even better then Molle Sir. |

Janu Hull
Caldari Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.23 21:17:00 -
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Set up a few tabs for open use in the Corp, set up another for people in the Corp who've been around long enough to be trustworthy, and a third set for stuff you Just Don't Risk.
For things like BPOs, those should never leave the hands of a Corp Director or be put anyplace anyone might just come grab it.
And be prepared to lose everything from time to time.
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Shadowhawk38
Ender Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.04.23 21:18:00 -
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Alright. I'll set up that immediately. Thanks Archilies. [url=http://profile.xfire.com/shadowhawk38][/url] |

Shadowhawk38
Ender Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.04.23 21:24:00 -
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The problem I have with tabs is that my corp divides items by category. Weapons have a category, BPOs and salvage have a category, etc. Since all our items are divided this way, redoing the tabs would take some work. I became director literally three hours ago after our CEO discovered the theft. Our CEO is also busy recruiting (hence the reason I was appointed director to solve this problem) and so the tabs need to be easy for new members to use. The CEO and I run Level 3 and 4 missions, sell the really valuable loot and salvage, and put the rest in the hangar for the new players. Does anyone have an idea that would be easy for the new players to learn? Thanks. [url=http://profile.xfire.com/shadowhawk38][/url] |

Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.23 21:31:00 -
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A single tip; Trust nobody. -----
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.23 21:31:00 -
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The answer has been given to you already. Since roles are managed by hangar (tab) then you have to have levels of security with your different hangars. If you really want to organize items by category or whatever you'll have to use station containers or something, which is all fine and dandy in NPC stations but wont work in 0.0. A better idea is to just let your new players just screw around with stuff until they figure it out.
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LordChaos
Amarr Purple Monkey Squadron
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Posted - 2007.04.24 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain A single tip; Trust nobody.
i agree with that :)
thats probably the most thing that sucks about this game. TRUST
The Master Of Chaos
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Novemb3r
The Splinter Syndicate R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.24 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowhawk38 The problem I have with tabs is that my corp divides items by category. Weapons have a category, BPOs and salvage have a category, etc. Since all our items are divided this way, redoing the tabs would take some work.
It might take some work but it's a much safer way of doing things. And you can still divide it up the same way inside each tab. Use station containers to put your weapons, ammo and modules in.
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Varban II
Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.24 09:54:00 -
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As mentioned use audit log containers. Then you can assign a role for ppl who can take stuff from the hangar and ppl who can take stuff from the containers. Put the most expensive items in the containers, unless ppl have the role to use those they cant take stuff from them.
Regards, Kind V2
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Morning Maniac
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.04.24 11:19:00 -
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On top of the suggestions already given you can also use one hanger a shop. So you give everyone the right to look at it's contents but not take. Then you need a trusted person that can have access and hand stuff out. This you can use for things you'd like people to have access to but you wouldn't want them to take the whole stack of something. It will give someone some work though and people should expect some delay on getting the item.
Probably the easiest is to have an alt of a director or CEO with security manager role and hanger access permanently stationed in your hq.
Good luck with your corp, I hope you will recover from your theft soon.
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Iasius
Warp Angels
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Posted - 2007.04.24 11:57:00 -
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I am setting up a new corp and security is a looming cloud over a CEO's head. Generaly in hangers you need noob cheapo stuff for most people who can be trusted. A noob only hanger for frigs. And the other hangers for logistics, T2 stuff should be director only. And those directors you should have huge trust in. Trust that goes as far as these directors are happy that you can login to their account.
PS my corp is one day old so its just me and a mate and my hand puppet Mr Majicka. Recruitment starts next week when i have website up to complement TS (Woot free plug in COAD, norty me) ................................................ I post with my main, so should you. Alt's are hecklers |

Star'mist
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Posted - 2007.04.24 12:55:00 -
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Emma Royd
Caldari Ravished Husk Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.24 17:43:00 -
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It is a difficult balance to have, on one hand you want to have access for the members for every day stuff, and you also want to be able to lock things down.
I've got the following 'Divisions'
Drop Box - Where everything a member wants to donate to the corp, mining taxes etc are put, this is a read only access for most members Members Trade - Ammo, and Cheaper Ship Modules etc in here Ship Modules - Some of the more expensive Modules in here Factory and Mining - Minerals, Salvage Materials etc Directors - Anything that you want to keep locked away from all but directors that leaves 2 spare to customise for your own requirements.
a few good tips:
Trust no-one with your own stuff, if you buy a blueprint then you keep it in your personal hangar, you can always copy it to leave in the corp.
Learn how to use Titles, there's plenty of scope to control them, and don't forget they stack so you can set a person with titles A + B etc.
Accept that corp theft is a fact of life in eve, not all corps get affected, but it happens and there is little you can do to stop it apart from trusting your gut instinct, if you don't get a good vibe from a character then don't give them access to anything.
Remember you'll probably be the poorest member in the corp, but don't let yourself get dragged down too much, it's a time consuming business, and one that needs a degree of dedication.
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Stelteck
Minmatar Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.24 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: NeverL only give access to valuable items if u really trust 100%
And never, never trust anyone at 100% ^^
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Bashiri
Caldari Point-Zero
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Posted - 2007.04.24 17:51:00 -
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Make a hanger were everyone can get into and make other hangers were directors can only get into. So if you get newbies into your corp they have one hanger they can get into and your more value items are safe in a different hanger.
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Sphynx Stormlord
Gallente Anqara Tech
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:22:00 -
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What is the difference between 'Roles' and 'Grantable Roles' - they both seem to have the same list of things on them?
And what is the difference between Hanger Access (Headquarters), Hanger Access (Based at) and Hanger Access (Other)
I'm mostly concerned with hangers at my headquarters and hangers at a pos.
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talonXI
Blue Phoenix Productions
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Posted - 2007.04.28 15:26:00 -
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I've never understood the difference between "roles" and "grantable roles" (I just set up roles, leaving grantables blank), but the 3 hangar access options are: "Headquarters" will setup for the corp hangar at your corps headquarters. "Based at" lets you assign a specific office for that person and give additional roles to the hangars at that station/office. (useful for a regional officer, or giving someone POS/lab use). "Other" is just that -- everything else (including POS corp hangars I believe). It gets to be a nightmare sometimes.
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Femaref
Caldari For my sweet Revenge
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Posted - 2007.04.28 23:43:00 -
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Role = Someone gets access to hangar 1 (e.g.) Grantable Role = Someone gets the ability to GIVE someone the ROLE to access named hangar 1.
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Maraude Fury
Minmatar Shadow Of The Light R i s e
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Posted - 2007.04.29 04:07:00 -
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For my corps hangers.
Vault - says it all. Only CEO/Dir's have access.
Ships General Use - Ships for all corp members to use. Low - Low Slot Mods Medium - Medium Slot Mods High - High Slot Mods
These for are for full members.
General use - Random stuff for new members. Melting pot of stuff. Ammo - Ammo
Last 2 for all mebers.
Maraude Fury Shadow Of The Light .SOL.
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Archilies
The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.29 22:51:00 -
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Alotta people say, dnt trust anyone, but you can't run a corporation with that principle because you won't get very far 'im assuming you have a rl job/education', but you can always be that extra bit careful.
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ScReWFaC3
Minmatar The Black Diamond Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.30 05:22:00 -
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Yea i agree with that im currently finding it hard to trust but u just know when u can trust someone and even somtimes u get it wrong theres alot of experianced spies and thiefs in the world of eve becareful out there peeps Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |

Stevobob
Freedom Guard
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Posted - 2007.04.30 05:27:00 -
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It sucks not being able to trust people in this game, but until someone invents something that allows you to punch people in the face over the internet, we'll have to keep locking people out of the fun stuff.
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