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Atalius Vinelgo
Caldari
Belly Button Fluff
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.24 09:19:00 -
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I am going to be fighting Guristas BS's
What would you put on your raven?
I have 6 ZW Siege launchers with Juggernaut torps
1 trac beam and 1 salvager
Mids:
3 Ballistic shield hardeners (Kinetic)
2 Shield extenders
Microwarpdrive
Lows:
2 ballistic control systems
2 flux coils
1 shield relay
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Grab Khan
New Justice
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.24 10:07:00 -
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Passive tanking doesn't work very well on Ravens, unfortunately.
This is what I use:
Highs:
6x siege w/ juggernaut
Meds:
2x Ballistic hardeners
1x Thermal hardener
1x XL shield booster
1x Shield boost amp
1x Gravimetric EECM (saves a lot of frustration...)
Lows:
3x BCS
1x DCU
1x CPU (I need it for things to fit)
Use t2 as skills allow. Don't expect to be looting in this ship though (slow as hell).
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J'Mkarr Soban
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.04.24 10:14:00 -
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Edited by: J''Mkarr Soban on 24/04/2007 10:11:13
6x Cruise w/ Wrath
1x LSB (or best faction you can afford)
1x SBA
2x Kin
1x Therm
1x Invul
3x BCU
1x DCU
1x PDU
3x CCC rigs
Swapping a Kin hardner for an EM hardner also gives you a fairly good omni tank, and nothing it stacked either.
EDIT: Might try the ECCM, that sound very useful heh.
-J
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Mo Reaper
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Posted - 2007.04.24 10:20:00 -
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Hi:
6 t2 Cruise
1 heavy nos
Mid:
1 t2 X-Large SB
1 target painter
1 t2 ballastic shield hardener
1 t2 heat disapation field
1 t2 ballastic shield amplifier
1 t2 heat disapation amplifier
Low:
2 t2 bcu
3 t2 pdu
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Voltron
Caldari
STK Scientific
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.24 10:29:00 -
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6 x arb siege w juggs
1 x tractor beam
1 x salvager
1 x xl c5l
1 x t2 kin hard
1 x t2 therm hard
1 x target painter
1 x t2 shield boost amp
1 x eutectic or t2 cap charger
3 x t2 ballistic ctrl units
2 x t2 pdu
never used rigs on mine as this fit was before rigs were in game, I would use 3 cap charge rigs and laugh all the way to the bank.
Volt
It's great touching your own dink isn't it?
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iudex
Caldari
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.24 10:54:00 -
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Passive tank is for BC only, not for the Raven.
And don't use kinetik/thermal hardeners, use invulnerability fields instead.
This is why: With 2-3 tech 2 invuls you can tank any Gurista belt-rat easily. But this will give you some protection against lonely anti-ratter-pirates.
They will not use kinetik damage, as they know that gurista ratters use high kinetik resistance, so you will probably attacked by something using em damage or so, and that invuls will give you a better allround protection and don't leave your shieldtank with 0% resistance to em, so you have a good chance to fight those solo anti-ratters that sneak in the sys.
Don't forget to pack som f.o.f. cruise missiles and a few missiles of diffrent damagetypes, if you use tech 2 launcher then a few precision missiles (to counter fast ships) aswell. You might come into situation where this saves your raven.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.04.24 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: James Lyrus on 24/04/2007 11:04:11
6 Siege 2, Tractor, Salvager
XL booster II, Booster amp, kin, therm, invuln, target painter II.
BCS and PDS to taste (I usually go for 3 BCS, since 767 damage per torp is big and clever).
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flaetriu
letter of marque
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Posted - 2007.04.24 14:48:00 -
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Ok my set up is
Highs
6 x Arbalest Cruise Launchers with Wraith Missiles
1 x Heavy Nos
1 x Tractor Beam**
Meds
1 x Shield Booster Amp
1 x XL Shield Booster
1 x TechII Shield Extender
1 x TechII Kinetic Hardener
2 x TechII Thermal Hardener*
Lows
3 x BCU TechII**
2 x PDC TechII**
Rigs
1 x Anti Thermal Screen I
1 x Core Defence Capacitor Sa***uard I
1 x Capacitor Control Circuit I
* may replace 1 x TechII Thermal with a TechII Invulnerability Field or TechII Heavy Capacitor Booster.
** if for harder lvl 4 mission, I swap a BCU TechII for a PDU TechII and then install second Heavy NOS.
Just my standard Guristas Killer. Tanks the LVL 4 Guristas Ext bonus lvl to a peach  with cap booster setup.
flaetriu
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Ralara
Caldari
Lilandri Foundation
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Posted - 2007.04.24 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Ralara on 24/04/2007 15:02:54
 Originally by: Atalius Vinelgo
I am going to be fighting Guristas BS's
What would you put on your raven?
I have 6 ZW Siege launchers with Juggernaut torps
1 trac beam and 1 salvager
Mids:
3 Ballistic shield hardeners (Kinetic)
2 Shield extenders
Microwarpdrive
Lows:
2 ballistic control systems
2 flux coils
1 shield relay
*ratting* raven?
6x Siege Missile Launcher I (build up from there with loot but never above Limos)
2x Tractor Beam (or 1x tractor, 1x salvager)
1x XL shield booster I (build up from there with loot)
1x Target Painter I (build up from there with loot)
2x ballistic deflection field I (build up from there)
1x heat disapation field I (build up from there)
MWD
3/2 Ballistic Control System / Power Diagnostic (whichever combi you prefer)
Very cheap. Works fine. Ok it might take 2 mins to kill a spawn and not 1 minute 30 seconds but you lose a lot less isk when you're invariably popped by an enemy )
some CCC rigs if you like.
I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot.
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Slayton Ford
Caldari
Kudzu Collective
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.04.24 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ralara
Edited by: Ralara on 24/04/2007 15:02:54
Originally by: Atalius Vinelgo
I am going to be fighting Guristas BS's
What would you put on your raven?
I have 6 ZW Siege launchers with Juggernaut torps
1 trac beam and 1 salvager
Mids:
3 Ballistic shield hardeners (Kinetic)
2 Shield extenders
Microwarpdrive
Lows:
2 ballistic control systems
2 flux coils
1 shield relay
*ratting* raven?
6x Siege Missile Launcher I (build up from there with loot but never above Limos)
2x Tractor Beam (or 1x tractor, 1x salvager)
1x XL shield booster I (build up from there with loot)
1x Target Painter I (build up from there with loot)
2x ballistic deflection field I (build up from there)
1x heat disapation field I (build up from there)
MWD
3/2 Ballistic Control System / Power Diagnostic (whichever combi you prefer)
Very cheap. Works fine. Ok it might take 2 mins to kill a spawn and not 1 minute 30 seconds but you lose a lot less isk when you're invariably popped by an enemy )
some CCC rigs if you like.
Why use a TP for ratting? A standard 0.0 belt spawn is 1-3 BSs w/ 1-3 frigates/cruisers. The sieges will do max damage on a BS rat w/o the need for a TP and 5x med drones will eat up the frigates/cruisers.
One other shift is using a Large Shield Booster II instead of a named XL Booster like a C5-L. With a boost amp, the XL has a efficiency of 1.625 (384cap for 624 boost) while a LSB II has a efficiency of 2.03 (154cap for 312 boost). On a un-rigged raven this will allow for better cap usage while clearing a spawn.
On Angels I use a setup such as -
6x siege, 1 tractor, 1 salvg
LSB II, shld boost amp, 2x inv, t2 exp hard, t2 thermal hard
2x bcu II, 2x PDS, 1 DC II (the oh crap item).
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Hoshi
Blackguard Brigade
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.24 17:55:00 -
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Edited by: Hoshi on 24/04/2007 17:52:15
Originally by: Slayton Ford
Why use a TP for ratting? A standard 0.0 belt spawn is 1-3 BSs w/ 1-3 frigates/cruisers. The sieges will do max damage on a BS rat w/o the need for a TP and 5x med drones will eat up the frigates/cruisers.
Actually torpedoes will not do max damage to all npc BS. Some of them have a sig radius less than 400m. For guristas they are not that many so you might be able to skip the TP but for example Angel battleship most of the high reward types have around 350m sig radius.
The TP is also useful to kill off battle cruisers faster and works wonders if a player pirate strolls in (most of them don't fly BS).
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