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Kaori Misaki Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.04.26 00:25:00 - [1] How do you deal with it?
Zedrik Cayne Gallente Vendetta Incorporated	Posted - 2007.04.26 00:29:00 - [2] I find that stumbling around in a drunken stupor after a long day of griefing poor industrialists really hits the spot. -- Does a lot of shooting for a miner. I've joined the dark side, they had cookies.
kublai Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.04.26 00:30:00 - [3] guilt...guilt.....that's like cabbage ye? Kublai is looking for a new corp! recruit me today
Jacob Castillo Caldari Playboy Enterprises	Posted - 2007.04.26 00:34:00 - [4] What is this "guilt" you speak of?
Kaori Misaki Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.04.26 00:52:00 - [5] Hah. Should've known better than to think some pirates might actually feel guilty for blowing someone's ship up.
Dano Katiria	Posted - 2007.04.26 00:53:00 - [6] i knew some1 who actualy paid victims... i had a good laugh at that for a while... generally guilt is not an issue... the victims ship offends me, mostly due to ship uglyness..
Wind Ictiva Delta Kappa Gamma	Posted - 2007.04.26 00:54:00 - [7] me, i hug my victims and pat them on their back and tell them its gonna be ok thats high sec, in low sec i just try and pod them I was young and needed the money
jimmyjam Gallente Turbulent	Posted - 2007.04.26 00:59:00 - [8] Originally by: Kaori Misaki How do you deal with it? There is none to deal with. Metagaming is a broad term usually used to define any strategy, action or method used in a game which transcends a prescribed ruleset, uses external factors to affect the game,
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.04.26 01:14:00 - [9] Originally by: Kaori Misaki How do you deal with it? Never heard of it DE
SloBones Gallente Sicarri Covenant Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.26 01:27:00 - [10] I find laughing at the hallow threats in the hate mail a good escape from the non-existent grief that you speak of.
Stakhanov Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.04.26 01:38:00 - [11] It's a common misconception that pirates have to deal with guilt due to their activities. Most of the time , it's pretty much the opposite - causing grief is enough of a motivation. Ransoming or killing some ratting / mining frigate or destroyer is worth a criminal flag , podding someone sitting idle at the gate is worth tanking sentry fire as well. It's a matter of principle. You won't get it until you become a pirate.
Grant Smith Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.04.26 01:40:00 - [12] Guilt is only as real as you believe the game is. I don't feel guilt, I just see pleasure side of things from wrecking someones day.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.26 02:38:00 - [13] Well, I cry for a little while, then shove the corpse under the bed for later use Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ... ~Liz Kali
T'Renn Crimson Squall	Posted - 2007.04.26 03:28:00 - [14] I used to feel guilty, actually, but it passes over time. Now I just cackle like a jackal whenever I grief sum nubz. -- Wanna be a low-sec scumbag?
Biologic Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.04.26 04:40:00 - [15] WTF is guilt its a game :P
Grunanca	Posted - 2007.04.26 06:27:00 - [16] Originally by: Kaori Misaki How do you deal with it? I use guilt as ammo in my autocannons so even more people can suffer!!!
Auron Shadowbane	Posted - 2007.04.26 06:45:00 - [17] I don't feel it. Just the flash of power and the feeling of superiority (either in equipment or experience) that killing grants you. Must have something to do with me beeing not violent enough IRL...
Kwerkus Ilf Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.04.26 06:48:00 - [18] I felt guilty for the first few kills that I had as a pirate but didn't really have time to think about it because I was having too much fun. Anytime you enter low sec, that warning you get is enough to exonerate me of any guilt I might feel. I usually feel good because risk is what makes this game fun. Without pirates, you're stuck with some lame WoW hand-holding MMO where there is little risk and ultimately little fun. -K
Koxinga Minmatar	Posted - 2007.04.26 07:03:00 - [19] I feel guilty for neglecting my family while hunting miners.
deathforge The Accursed	Posted - 2007.04.26 07:20:00 - [20] Originally by: Kaori Misaki Hah. Should've known better than to think some pirates might actually feel guilty for blowing someone's ship up. I pay hard earned money to nuke carebears, it's not something I do by accident. And by the way, I rule you. ---------------------- Low skillpoint Rifter piracy video
Kehmor Caldari The Movement	Posted - 2007.04.26 08:01:00 - [21] Edited by: Kehmor on 26/04/2007 07:57:46 Haven't felt guilt for piracy for years. It disapears when you come to realise what sort of game eve is. When you pirate you are playing as intended, when you run missions you are not. Go figure.
Vintorez Kosakami Caldari Deviance Cartel	Posted - 2007.04.26 08:40:00 - [22] Not too long ago we caught a freighter in our net. we took him to low armour then ransomed him for 500mil he payed back swiftly with no word of argument. we eased off the webbers and scramblers and let him go, soon as we let him go about 10 others appeared in local that werent part of our gang. we flew off thinking it was a possible gank. we then found out the 10 that entered local actually had been following the freighter. they further ransomed him for an amount we do not know, but its gotta be similar to our ransom. the guy paid them and was let go. our ransom was split between the players present. A couple of us said to each other in g chat that we felt sorry for the guy, being ransomed twice aint an easy time. one of our guildies then spoke up and said, if you feel soo bad, give your part of the ransom back to him..... we all laughed and none of us gave back any of the money. guilty as we was, they get the low sec warning, and how many people fly freighters through low sec? We Ride Among Thieves On Mighty Steads, Across The Devils Plane.
Lt Angus Caldari OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.04.26 08:56:00 - [23] Do you feel guilty when you get a headshot on a fps or when you blow up someones base on any number of rts Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers
Hilae Nduli	Posted - 2007.04.26 09:00:00 - [24] Yeah I feel guilty sometimes, accidently unlock a pod.. But shooting down someones ship? Who cares, you guys care about the rules?
1tommo1 Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.04.26 11:13:00 - [25] Who, what, where, when, why?
Trinity Faetal Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.04.26 11:17:00 - [26] i feel guilt sometimes when killing ppl who have absolutely 0 chance of winning :D, but then their smack and death threats straighten me out and i go out and kill more of them -- Bakka! bakka! bakka! bakka! bakka! bakka! bakka!
Dezz'mond	Posted - 2007.04.26 11:22:00 - [27] Originally by: Kaori Misaki Hah. Should've known better than to think some pirates might actually feel guilty for blowing someone's ship up. Thats not piracy, thats griefing, if a pirate has to blow you up, then you had your chance to pay, and theres no guilt to be had.
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2007.04.26 11:56:00 - [28] Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Kaori Misaki How do you deal with it? Never heard of it DE x2 lolz Because I said so...
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.04.26 15:20:00 - [29] Originally by: Cinders Khalaris Shooting people in mmorpgs does not make me feel guilty, however slapping cute cows in black and white 2 makes me cry but it's so much fun DE
Dread Operative Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.04.26 16:14:00 - [30] If by guilt you mean that feeling of happiness I get when someone else's ship blows up, then I deal with it in the most serious of serious ways possible: Beer.
Vegas Gold Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.04.26 16:34:00 - [31] I pod people because I'm unhappy, and I'm unhappy because I pod people. It's a vicious cycle.
Vrabac Amarr Shadowed Souls	Posted - 2007.04.26 19:31:00 - [32] Originally by: Kaori Misaki How do you deal with it?
Speed Devil Caldari Deviance Inc	Posted - 2007.04.26 19:59:00 - [33] i feel happy when i make people sad, mad, angry etc on the internet. go figure snip That link is not appropriate. Please mail [email protected] if you have any questions. -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
Jollyreaper Gallente Ace Adventure Corp	Posted - 2007.04.26 20:34:00 - [34] Originally by: Kehmor Edited by: Kehmor on 26/04/2007 07:57:46 Haven't felt guilt for piracy for years. It disapears when you come to realise what sort of game eve is. When you pirate you are playing as intended, when you run missions you are not. Go figure. Mission running is not intended gameplay?
Jollyreaper Gallente Ace Adventure Corp	Posted - 2007.04.26 20:40:00 - [35] Originally by: Jin'Mei Kim I wonder if any player has taken this game so seriously, that their threats to a pirate were actually carried out in real life? Have you heard about the stupid things people kill each other over in bars? Absolutely someone would do it in real life. The advantage you have is that the people you're playing against are likely far, far away from you. I think your life expectancy could be different if you were playing in the net bars in Korea. The odds of the person you griefed being someone in your town is far, far greater. I believe I have already read of one article where a person was killed for something that occured on a message board. I have seen several situations where message board fights have been taken into the real world, not for killing but for trying to ruin someone's life. If anyone had ever been on frakedcompany, a libertardian poster there ticked off a lot of people. His photo was available online and so someone went and expertly turned it into a bj pic that looked 100% authentic, then printed glosses and mailed it to his neighbors. It's not a matter of this being online or not, it's a matter of people taking things too far in general. If some guy will kill another guy over a pair of sneakers or drug money, they will kill someone over losing a few billion isk in a game.
Vladimir Norkoff The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.04.26 22:41:00 - [36] I don't feel guilt and I don't feel happiness.. I just feel a vague sense of satisfaction the temporarily fills the gaping vacant hole that is my life.. Mine is a dismal and empty existence, and I try to compensate for it by inflicting upon others the pain and frustation that I feel on a daily basis.. It helps, but only for a short while.... I need a hug.. P.S. Jollyreaper - If you are illiterate, don't display the fact in a sig.. "Avoiding"..
Nyck Not Your Common Killers	Posted - 2007.04.27 00:13:00 - [37] Originally by: Dezz'mond Originally by: Kaori Misaki Hah. Should've known better than to think some pirates might actually feel guilty for blowing someone's ship up. Thats not piracy, thats griefing, if a pirate has to blow you up, then you had your chance to pay, and theres no guilt to be had. Perhaps you could read a book sometime. You'd be surprised how many pirates sunk ships, or as you put it, griefed targets, as well as murdered their prey. I feel no remorse for my victims.
Nyck Not Your Common Killers	Posted - 2007.04.27 00:16:00 - [38] Originally by: Vladimir Norkoff I just feel a vague sense of satisfaction the temporarily fills the gaping vacant hole that is my life.. frustation P.S. Jollyreaper - If you are illiterate, don't display the fact in a sig.. "Avoiding".. One who needs a lesson in proper sentence structure, as well as some spelling lessons of his own, should not correct others.
Dark Kavar Caldari Aionios Diadochi	Posted - 2007.04.27 00:36:00 - [39] I popped and podded a 2 day old noob a couple of days ago, i didn't relize how old he was and I feel kinda bad becuase i think he stopped playing becuas of it, havent seen him log on since Kind of like the Triforce in Zelda, only not quite as potent.
Liang Nuren Sons of Heaven Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.27 02:52:00 - [40] The only time I feel bad is when I accidently gank someone that's obviously a complete noob. I felt so bad that I let someone off the hook last night when he was a month in game... but he convo'd, and ganged me and asked him to help with a mission. Red star and all. So... I explained the situation and let him go. That's my good deed for the week though. Promise! Liang My opinions are my own, and do not in any way reflect the beliefs of my corp/alliance.
Sirius Problem Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.27 03:45:00 - [41] Edited by: Sirius Problem on 27/04/2007 03:42:38 lol.. nice new sig kublai.. I wonder how long this one will last? ---- Some people say I have a bad attitude. Those people are stupid.
Hannobaal Gallente Utopian Frontier	Posted - 2007.04.27 05:21:00 - [42] Not that I'm a pirate, but I'd say unless the target is a week-old player or something there is absolutely nothing to feel guilty about. It's a game and both sides are playing it in their own way and trying to come out ahead. Nor is piracy (real piracy, not the baiting people in high-sec and other game-play abuses kind) in any way a form of griefing. ------------------ "If you ever need anything, please don't Hesitate to ask someone else first."
Rikkard Strofeldt Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.04.27 05:48:00 - [43] I can't even say the word, let alone feel it. -- Madness has arisen.
Corwain Gallente Zero Team	Posted - 2007.04.27 07:50:00 - [44] I don't feel guilt when I am...forcing people to fight me. I feel a kind of tension. Then if I win I get a rush, and if I lose I get this low, accompanied with myself second guessing my setup/tactics. Then after a smoke break and perhaps a little fund raising I'm back at it. The extremeness of my feelings depends on how challenging of a fight it is.
xMillz Exploring Blind	Posted - 2007.04.27 11:44:00 - [45] Originally by: Kaori Misaki How do you deal with it? I try to sell them back there corpse...
Fafnir Drake Gallente Boob Heads Phoenix Supremacy	Posted - 2007.04.27 13:03:00 - [46] Originally by: Dezz'mond Originally by: Kaori Misaki Hah. Should've known better than to think some pirates might actually feel guilty for blowing someone's ship up. Thats not piracy, thats griefing, if a pirate has to blow you up, then you had your chance to pay, and theres no guilt to be had. I think many pirates don't call it griefing. Rather, say... agressive salvaging/scavenging of fresh derilicts. ------ "A wise man once told me never to argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level, and then beat you with experience."
Ja'kar Templar Securities and Holdings	Posted - 2007.04.27 13:37:00 - [47] if u feel guilty ur in the wrong job! Only time i felt 'bad' was when i killed a ship in high sec (thought it was low) since he was a noob and did not complain etc. I give him isk plus ship and mods etc, only time and that was over 2 and a bit years ago.
Indigo Emerald	Posted - 2007.04.28 08:02:00 - [48] I do feel guilty, that is why I do not defile there corpse for a few days
Von Schnopp Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.04.28 13:17:00 - [49] Originally by: Jollyreaper Originally by: Jin'Mei Kim I wonder if any player has taken this game so seriously, that their threats to a pirate were actually carried out in real life? Have you heard about the stupid things people kill each other over in bars? Absolutely someone would do it in real life. The advantage you have is that the people you're playing against are likely far, far away from you. I think your life expectancy could be different if you were playing in the net bars in Korea. The odds of the person you griefed being someone in your town is far, far greater. I believe I have already read of one article where a person was killed for something that occured on a message board. I have seen several situations where message board fights have been taken into the real world, not for killing but for trying to ruin someone's life. If anyone had ever been on frakedcompany, a libertardian poster there ticked off a lot of people. His photo was available online and so someone went and expertly turned it into a bj pic that looked 100% authentic, then printed glosses and mailed it to his neighbors. It's not a matter of this being online or not, it's a matter of people taking things too far in general. If some guy will kill another guy over a pair of sneakers or drug money, they will kill someone over losing a few billion isk in a game. Never leave home without a good set of WCSs, and if they hit you never the less, just tell the offender he'll be flagged and can't leave the bar for 15 minutes. Playing too much? "Dying for your corp is just stupid, make those other bastards die for theirs instead"

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