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Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 268	Posted - 2017.02.18 05:29:36 - [1] - Quote https://pr.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5uqjqk/ganking_superstar_jason_kusion_robs_code_for_500b/ "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1500	Posted - 2017.02.18 05:48:58 - [2] - Quote Well this should be a fun thread. Lots of crowing and laughter. Meanwhile, ganking will continue....they need to make up the losses. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Kaybella Hakaari State War Academy Caldari State 42	Posted - 2017.02.18 06:38:48 - [3] - Quote Assuming they re-form, they're going to need new ganking ships.
Scipio Artelius The Scope Gallente Federation 47077	Posted - 2017.02.18 06:44:17 - [4] - Quote Can anyone confirm this? Isn't it already confirmed in that reddit thread? (and the other one about minerbumping going into retirement) What more confirmation are you looking for?
Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate 1123	Posted - 2017.02.18 07:14:24 - [5] - Quote il just post here in case thread goes berserk. "You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear"n++
Exaido Fire Over Light Those Infernal Machines 93	Posted - 2017.02.18 07:21:37 - [6] - Quote Mina Sebiestar wrote: il just post here in case thread goes berserk. Second the motion!
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 3140	Posted - 2017.02.18 07:46:47 - [7] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Well this should be a fun thread. Lots of crowing and laughter not realising CODE. front and centre is what this whole thing is about. CODE. doing what CODE. do - bringing content to New Eden. You know you are winning Eve when you can provoke that response so easily. However, for the rest of New Eden, it doesn't bode well when the most interesting thing happening is some CODE. drama/morality play. Seriously reddit, never change. The 8 Golden Rules of Eve Why Do They Gank?
Exaido Fire Over Light Those Infernal Machines 93	Posted - 2017.02.18 07:51:40 - [8] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Well this should be a fun thread. Lots of crowing and laughter not realising CODE. front and centre is what this whole thing is about. CODE. doing what CODE. do - bringing content to New Eden. You know you are winning Eve when you can provoke that response so easily. However, for the rest of New Eden, it doesn't bode well when the most interesting thing happening is some CODE. drama/morality play. Seriously reddit, never change. CODE drama has been the highlight for a while now - the rantings and ramblings of 315 mouthpieces are the best fun and their ganking creates the most controversy. I love to hate them, but honestly, New Eden would be less interesting for their presence. I don't admire ganking as a display of ability as a PVP pilot but friction is a necessary evil, and they bring it. But you know, this could be the coolest theft of all time if it vets out.
Eternus8lux8lucis Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 1268	Posted - 2017.02.18 07:54:03 - [9] - Quote Exaido wrote: Black Pedro wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Well this should be a fun thread. Lots of crowing and laughter not realising CODE. front and centre is what this whole thing is about. CODE. doing what CODE. do - bringing content to New Eden. You know you are winning Eve when you can provoke that response so easily. However, for the rest of New Eden, it doesn't bode well when the most interesting thing happening is some CODE. drama/morality play. Seriously reddit, never change. CODE drama has been the highlight for a while now - the rantings and ramblings of 315 mouthpieces are the best fun and their ganking creates the most controversy. I love to hate them, but honestly, New Eden would be less interesting for their presence. I don't admire ganking as a display of ability as a PVP pilot but friction is a necessary evil, and they bring it. But you know, this could be the coolest theft of all time if it vets out. The only way it would be the coolest is if the guy who stole it was the top anti-gank proponent themselves. Have you heard anything I've said? You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right? That's right. Had to end sometime.
Yebo Lakatosh Sewing Lightning 72	Posted - 2017.02.18 07:55:32 - [10] - Quote Isk is just isk, stuff is just stuff. The principle will last. Though hope the rumors of that may affect the Burn Jita event are untrue.. The children would get very sad if MiniLuv couldn't deliver. They were so excited trough all february. They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
Lucas Lucias Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 23	Posted - 2017.02.18 07:59:20 - [11] - Quote Another drama around the loot gained from ganker thefts, seems like history repeating itself . And activity is very low now for CODE in general.
forums 11	Posted - 2017.02.18 08:21:46 - [12] - Quote For a roleplaying corp , this wasn't as dramatic as you'd expect. Just an announcement on Reddit, then they close. You'd expect a scene with James 315 giving a speech to the 'righteous ganker' ensemble at least
Salvos Rhoska 2177	Posted - 2017.02.18 08:28:45 - [13] - Quote False flag ops. Probably in order to launder assets. PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5621	Posted - 2017.02.18 08:32:23 - [14] - Quote Are they honoring refunds on mining permits...? I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Salvos Rhoska 2177	Posted - 2017.02.18 08:37:46 - [15] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: Can anyone confirm this? Isn't it already confirmed in that reddit thread? (and the other one about minerbumping going into retirement) What more confirmation are you looking for? How can you even get anything out of that thread. Its just garbage piled on garbage. Typical reddit. PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5623	Posted - 2017.02.18 08:59:47 - [16] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: How can you even get anything out of that thread. Its just garbage piled on garbage. Typical reddit. 1. Code got robbed. Really, really robbed. 2. Code disbands. 3. High-sec'ers rejoice! I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Yebo Lakatosh Sewing Lightning 72	Posted - 2017.02.18 09:07:23 - [17] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: How can you even get anything out of that thread. Its just garbage piled on garbage. Typical reddit. 1. Code got robbed. Really, really robbed. 2. Code disbands. 3. High-sec'ers rejoice! I did read that thread. Only seems to confirm point 1. They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
Hipqo Tyde8 165	Posted - 2017.02.18 09:08:11 - [18] - Quote In all honesty i hope they reform or at least some kind of CODE. reforms in one way or another. I have always hated them with passion, but EVE wont be the same without the roleplaying crybabies around. I guess its just a little bit nice to see the old saying work "what goes around, comes around". A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
Vortexo VonBrenner Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning 2669	Posted - 2017.02.18 09:15:58 - [19] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: False flag ops. Probably in order to launder assets. Guess we'll see depending on whether or not minerbumping.com gets taken down. EvE security zones in pictures EvE quick reference pdf EvE links
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5623	Posted - 2017.02.18 09:16:02 - [20] - Quote Hipqo wrote: I guess its just a little bit nice to see the old saying work "what goes around, comes around". Poetic Justice. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Zoubidah Al-Kouffarde Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 30	Posted - 2017.02.18 09:19:41 - [21] - Quote Fake drama as 500b is mere peanuts for any decent-sized organization, all the more if it does its money ganking, which is a very much profitable activity. "You would not be the first "ganker aligned" player to be found to having some issues. Here's a dark secret: there are some in AG who, because of battling gankers, have managed to get to know a few of them, found they had issues, and helped them" HW
Salvos Rhoska 2177	Posted - 2017.02.18 09:23:02 - [22] - Quote Vortexo VonBrenner wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: False flag ops. Probably in order to launder assets. Guess we'll see depending on whether or not minerbumping.com gets taken down. Or that too is part of the false flag ops. Basically resulting in liquidation of CODE and its assets for purposes of laundering them for some unknown reason or future purpose. PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Avaelica Kuershin Paper Cats 318	Posted - 2017.02.18 09:24:23 - [23] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: How can you even get anything out of that thread. Its just garbage piled on garbage. Typical reddit. 1. Code got robbed. Really, really robbed. 2. Code disbands. 3. High-sec'ers rejoice! For how long? I seem to recall other groups were supposedly buried ... not so long ago.
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5623	Posted - 2017.02.18 09:31:04 - [24] - Quote Avaelica Kuershin wrote: For how long? I seem to recall other groups were supposedly buried ... not so long ago. They're reporting that Goonswarm had 30k Catalysts stolen as well... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Salvos Rhoska 2180	Posted - 2017.02.18 09:41:19 - [25] - Quote Heuristically, it could be suggested that CODE was all along only a stage in a larger plan. Such that CODE was used as a mechanism to accrue a specific amount of assets/wealth, for some later, larger purpose. That target was now fulfilled, and CODE becomes obsolete. Time to cash out. We dont know that the 500bil theft, is not simply an excuse to shut down CODE, and liquidate its assets, and re-unite them with the 500bil under another project, by the same operators. PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1502	Posted - 2017.02.18 09:42:12 - [26] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: Avaelica Kuershin wrote: For how long? I seem to recall other groups were supposedly buried ... not so long ago. They're reporting that Goonswarm had 30k Catalysts stolen as well... Yep. Goons are broke now and no way Burn Jita will be happening now. Everyon in highsec is totally safe now and can freely AFK mine in antitanked covetors in 0.5 system. Totally all good. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1502	Posted - 2017.02.18 09:44:05 - [27] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Heuristically, it could be suggested that CODE was all along only a stage in a larger plan. Yeah sure. That could be suggested by someone without a grip on reality. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Salvos Rhoska 2180	Posted - 2017.02.18 09:51:31 - [28] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: Heuristically, it could be suggested that CODE was all along only a stage in a larger plan. Yeah sure. That could be suggested by someone without a grip on reality. Are you really so naive as to think that CODE would not have taken precautions to prevent a 500bil loss? I think its you that has a rather shaky grip on reality. PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Expendable Unit Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 39	Posted - 2017.02.18 10:01:48 - [29] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: Heuristically, it could be suggested that CODE was all along only a stage in a larger plan. Yeah sure. That could be suggested by someone without a grip on reality. Are you really so naive as to think that CODE would not have taken precautions to prevent a 500bil loss? I think its you that has a rather shaky grip on reality. Haha, as if 500 bil is a lot for them....peanuts. They must have so much crap that it times it becomes probably difficult to organize so every here and there some peanuts get stolen. My heart is always with CODE., they are one of the main reasons EVE is a fun game even if I was never part of them. It is funny how butt hurt people that already saw confirmation on reddit, still want to see confirmation here, as if trying to make fun of them but fact is, they probably can't be bothered about peanut drama.
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1502	Posted - 2017.02.18 10:16:59 - [30] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: Heuristically, it could be suggested that CODE was all along only a stage in a larger plan. Yeah sure. That could be suggested by someone without a grip on reality. Are you really so naive as to think that CODE would not have taken precautions to prevent a 500bil loss? I think its you that has a rather shaky grip on reality. 500B is not much. Hardly a 'bigger plan'...lol This isn't the first time this sort of thing has occurred. Won't be the last. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Akane Togenada Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 55	Posted - 2017.02.18 10:23:46 - [31] - Quote I'm certain some other group(s) will take up CODE:s role as high sec "menace". To many wealthy groups have a interest in keeping ships blow up in High for this not to happen.
Lucas Lucias Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 24	Posted - 2017.02.18 10:25:35 - [32] - Quote I am thinking gleefully of the poor sap who will have to set up 30k Catalysts for Miniluv and burn Jita, I find that rather amusing. That would be close to 1,000 freighter ganks as a target, lol. I hope Kusion has repackaged and stacked the modules and ships and put back on market.
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5624	Posted - 2017.02.18 10:44:06 - [33] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: 500B is not much. Hardly a 'bigger plan'...lol This isn't the first time this sort of thing has occurred. Won't be the last. It's over 500-billion ISK. Probably more like 600 to 700-billion ISK - not including the 30k Catalysts which would put it well over 1-trillion ISK. Yes, not that much. Only a minimum 2-year setback, fail-cascade and implosion of CODE. Just a scratch... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1502	Posted - 2017.02.18 10:45:50 - [34] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: 500B is not much. Hardly a 'bigger plan'...lol This isn't the first time this sort of thing has occurred. Won't be the last. It's over 500-billion ISK. Probably more like 600 to 700-billion ISK - not including the 30k Catalysts which would put it well over 1-trillion ISK. Yes, not that much. Only a minimum 2-year setback, fail-cascade and implosion of CODE. Just a scratch... Thanks. I'll come back to this quote in a few days. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Salvos Rhoska 2186	Posted - 2017.02.18 10:54:02 - [35] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: Heuristically, it could be suggested that CODE was all along only a stage in a larger plan. Yeah sure. That could be suggested by someone without a grip on reality. Are you really so naive as to think that CODE would not have taken precautions to prevent a 500bil loss? I think its you that has a rather shaky grip on reality. 500B is not much. Hardly a 'bigger plan'...lol This isn't the first time this sort of thing has occurred. Won't be the last. Losing 500 bil is a pretty big mistake, no matter how you cut it. Not that anyone is naive enough to believe it was an "accident". It provides a convenient excuse to liquidate the rest of CODE assets. PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Matthias Ancaladron Wrath of Angels 130	Posted - 2017.02.18 11:21:32 - [36] - Quote I'd make a joke about making mining great again but tbh code was never even slightly relevant. :3
ST0NER SMURF Vrix Nation CODE. 238	Posted - 2017.02.18 11:22:14 - [37] - Quote i yust hope kusion's keep up there fleets ;) hes a freaking killing machine __________________________________________________________________-á GÖ½ When your pod gets blown to bits GÖ¬GÖ½ And you lose your implant fits GÖ¬\Gÿ+/ Don't worry GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ Be Happy \Gÿ+/
Alderson Point Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2017.02.18 11:53:54 - [38] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: 500B is not much. Hardly a 'bigger plan'...lol This isn't the first time this sort of thing has occurred. Won't be the last. It's over 500-billion ISK. Probably more like 600 to 700-billion ISK - not including the 30k Catalysts which would put it well over 1-trillion ISK. Yes, not that much. Only a minimum 2-year setback, fail-cascade and implosion of CODE. Just a scratch... Poor dears, either they got royally screwed over, or it is an attempt to create some excitement in an atempt to appear important and still? relevant. Either way the majority of the playerbase will still look at them with humourous contempt. Not particularly a good result either way.
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5624	Posted - 2017.02.18 11:57:58 - [39] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Thanks. I'll come back to this quote in a few days. Please do - and feel free to correct my numbers if they end up being off. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5624	Posted - 2017.02.18 11:58:44 - [40] - Quote Double post. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Salvos Rhoska 2195	Posted - 2017.02.18 12:00:07 - [41] - Quote Alderson Point wrote: Arthur Aihaken wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: 500B is not much. Hardly a 'bigger plan'...lol This isn't the first time this sort of thing has occurred. Won't be the last. It's over 500-billion ISK. Probably more like 600 to 700-billion ISK - not including the 30k Catalysts which would put it well over 1-trillion ISK. Yes, not that much. Only a minimum 2-year setback, fail-cascade and implosion of CODE. Just a scratch... Poor dears, either they got royally screwed over, or it is an attempt to create some excitement in an atempt to appear important and still? relevant. Either way the majority of the playerbase will still look at them with humourous contempt. Not particularly a good result either way. Could be its an attempt to form a daughter CODE based on the stolen assets and the 30k Catalysts. Whilst the remaining assets/isk of mother CODE itself, are liquidated, laundered and moved onto something else. The typical goal of any racket/mafia, is to eventually earn enough through their activities so as to legitimize itself. PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Alderson Point Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2017.02.18 13:35:14 - [42] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Alderson Point wrote: Arthur Aihaken wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: 500B is not much. Hardly a 'bigger plan'...lol This isn't the first time this sort of thing has occurred. Won't be the last. It's over 500-billion ISK. Probably more like 600 to 700-billion ISK - not including the 30k Catalysts which would put it well over 1-trillion ISK. Yes, not that much. Only a minimum 2-year setback, fail-cascade and implosion of CODE. Just a scratch... Poor dears, either they got royally screwed over, or it is an attempt to create some excitement in an atempt to appear important and still? relevant. Either way the majority of the playerbase will still look at them with humourous contempt. Not particularly a good result either way. Could be its an attempt to form a daughter CODE based on the stolen assets and the 30k Catalysts. Whilst the remaining assets/isk of mother CODE itself, are liquidated, laundered and moved onto something else. The typical goal of any racket/mafia, is to eventually earn enough through their activities so as to legitimize itself. Anything is possible, however what is not is that people will regard the new code.... with anything less than contempt and ridicule. But self delusion is the best delusion. Until the bubble bursts. Of course, tinfoil hat on, it could just be a move to explain to their members, why they aren't getting a share of the spoils, "oh dear, we were going to give you a share, but a bad person took it all, sorry" (giggle, suckers) But hey! Code.dot.dot.dot.dot.dot always wins, three cheers for code.dot etc. (Are we respected yet?) =ƒÿé
Salvos Rhoska 2195	Posted - 2017.02.18 13:51:05 - [43] - Quote Alderson Point wrote: Anything is possible, however what is not is that people will regard the new code.... with anything less than contempt and ridicule. But self delusion is the best delusion. Until the bubble bursts. My point being that Kusion has the assets now to run a daughter CODE, almost indefinitely. Meanwhile, the remainder of mother CODE can invest its remaining assets into something else entirely. Could be anything. Perhaps they found a market niche they can dominate, perhaps the operators want to become bankers/investors. I see this as a false flag ops to provide an excuse for shutting down CODE as it is, so as to cash out. Meanwhile the "stolen" assets are ideal and sufficient (especially the Catalysts) for maintaining a daughter CODE in its place, which again will accumulate wealth, and again be liquidated/laundered etc. PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Alderson Point Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2017.02.18 13:57:13 - [44] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Alderson Point wrote: Anything is possible, however what is not is that people will regard the new code.... with anything less than contempt and ridicule. But self delusion is the best delusion. Until the bubble bursts. My point being that Kusion has the assets now to run a daughter CODE, almost indefinitely. Meanwhile, the remainder of mother CODE can invest its remaining assets into something else entirely. Could be anything. Perhaps they found a market niche they can dominate, perhaps the operators want to become bankers/investors. Of course, that may be the case, and nothing to do with stripping all of the assets out and leaving the members hung out to dry, of course a "favoured few" will be invited into this new code.dot.dot.dot.dot wonderland, leaving the "socially challenged" behind to wither and die, and a new clean Code.dot.dot.dot.dot rises like a pheonix. Somehow a turd hatching out into bird of paradise is more likely than this working. I mean the calm, reasonable, well balanced, code playerbase is naturally going to treat this in a calm and considered manner and not going to get upset in the slightest, I Mean, they embrace this side of eve and are going to say, "well done chaps! Good play, super show, you did us up like a kipper!" Or possibly they might react as we might ACTUALLY expect. Something like whipping a rotweiler in his man potatoes with a wet towel.
Clockwork Robot Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 35	Posted - 2017.02.18 14:05:23 - [45] - Quote Zoubidah Al-Kouffarde wrote: Fake drama as 500b is mere peanuts for any decent-sized organization, all the more if it does its money ganking, which is a very much profitable activity. Yeah... This feels like the typical "Pay Attention To Me!" thing we get on the forums, anytime the blog site has a less than stellar "tears" total for a given week. (Real "tears", not drama-alt-post "rage") I keep maintaining that there's better drama without faking your own, fellas.
Clockwork Robot Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 35	Posted - 2017.02.18 14:10:40 - [46] - Quote Alderson Point wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: Alderson Point wrote: Anything is possible, however what is not is that people will regard the new code.... with anything less than contempt and ridicule. But self delusion is the best delusion. Until the bubble bursts. My point being that Kusion has the assets now to run a daughter CODE, almost indefinitely. Meanwhile, the remainder of mother CODE can invest its remaining assets into something else entirely. Could be anything. Perhaps they found a market niche they can dominate, perhaps the operators want to become bankers/investors. Of course, that may be the case, and nothing to do with stripping all of the assets out and leaving the members hung out to dry, of course a "favoured few" will be invited into this new code.dot.dot.dot.dot wonderland, leaving the "socially challenged" behind to wither and die, and a new clean Code.dot.dot.dot.dot rises like a pheonix. Somehow a turd hatching out into bird of paradise is more likely than this working. I mean the calm, reasonable, well balanced, code playerbase is naturally going to treat this in a calm and considered manner and not going to get upset in the slightest, I Mean, they embrace this side of eve and are going to say, "well done chaps! Good play, super show, you did us up like a kipper!" Or possibly they might react as we might ACTUALLY expect. Something like whipping a rotweiler in his man potatoes with a wet towel. You sure are in a hurry to tell everyone how irrelevant this corp you're posting non-stop about is, Alderson. Anyways, yeah. This rumour smells an awful lot like a pre-quel to some epic yarn on the website. "They said CODE was dead part one"
Torin Corax Game of Roams 242	Posted - 2017.02.18 14:13:53 - [47] - Quote So, can someone confirm there are going to be some cheap cats on the market sometime soon? Corp theft happens. No big deal. Very much doubt that any "serious" member of CODE. is going to give much of a damn about this. Still plenty of stuff to gank, still plenty of people willing to gank. Still plenty of people willing to whine about being ganked.
Alderson Point Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2017.02.18 14:14:45 - [48] - Quote Clockwork Robot wrote: Alderson Point wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: Alderson Point wrote: Anything is possible, however what is not is that people will regard the new code.... with anything less than contempt and ridicule. But self delusion is the best delusion. Until the bubble bursts. My point being that Kusion has the assets now to run a daughter CODE, almost indefinitely. Meanwhile, the remainder of mother CODE can invest its remaining assets into something else entirely. Could be anything. Perhaps they found a market niche they can dominate, perhaps the operators want to become bankers/investors. Of course, that may be the case, and nothing to do with stripping all of the assets out and leaving the members hung out to dry, of course a "favoured few" will be invited into this new code.dot.dot.dot.dot wonderland, leaving the "socially challenged" behind to wither and die, and a new clean Code.dot.dot.dot.dot rises like a pheonix. Somehow a turd hatching out into bird of paradise is more likely than this working. I mean the calm, reasonable, well balanced, code playerbase is naturally going to treat this in a calm and considered manner and not going to get upset in the slightest, I Mean, they embrace this side of eve and are going to say, "well done chaps! Good play, super show, you did us up like a kipper!" Or possibly they might react as we might ACTUALLY expect. Something like whipping a rotweiler in his man potatoes with a wet towel. You sure are in a hurry to tell everyone how irrelevant this corp you're posting non-stop about is, Alderson. Anyways, yeah. This rumour smells an awful lot like a pre-quel to some epic yarn on the website. "They said CODE was dead part one" Yeah, it is nice to see code. Undergoing some disruption for whatever reason, a grand member ripoff? Drama lama for it's own sake? Look at me I'm relevant? All may apply, the leadership stripping the hell out of the members and keeping all the lootz is the funniest scenario though. (Bad person took all the moneyz , sorry lol) it is hard to see how they spin that in a positive way, but whatever.
Salvos Rhoska 2195	Posted - 2017.02.18 14:23:01 - [49] - Quote Alderson Point wrote: Of course, that may be the case, and nothing to do with stripping all of the assets out and leaving the members hung out to dry, of course a "favoured few" will be invited into this new code.dot.dot.dot.dot wonderland, leaving the "socially challenged" behind to wither and die, and a new clean Code.dot.dot.dot.dot rises like a pheonix. . The "members" never had ownership or control. Sycophantic idiots, giddily riding the wave, with no real ownership or control, gave over their assets/profits to the org. Now the org is cashing out. Yes, leaving them high and dry. But dont panic! 5-700 bil was stolen, and 30k Catalysts! CODE will endure, but under new leadership! Kusion is the new Savior of EVE, whilst James315 becomes a banker/investor/whatever with the rest! PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Alderson Point Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2017.02.18 14:25:29 - [50] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Alderson Point wrote: Of course, that may be the case, and nothing to do with stripping all of the assets out and leaving the members hung out to dry, of course a "favoured few" will be invited into this new code.dot.dot.dot.dot wonderland, leaving the "socially challenged" behind to wither and die, and a new clean Code.dot.dot.dot.dot rises like a pheonix. . The "members" never had ownership or control. Sycophantic idiots, giddily riding the wave, with no real ownership or control, gave over their assets/profits to the org. Now the org is cashing out. Yes, leaving them high and dry. But dont panic! 5-700 bil was stolen, and 30k Catalysts! CODE will endure, but under new leadership! Kusion is the new Savior of EVE, whilst James315 becomes a banker/investor/whatever with the rest! Hmm sounds more like an enema.
Salvos Rhoska 2195	Posted - 2017.02.18 14:31:50 - [51] - Quote Torin Corax wrote: Very much doubt that any "serious" member of CODE. is going to give much of a damn about this. Still plenty of stuff to gank, still plenty of people willing to gank. Still plenty of people willing to whine about being ganked. CODE is, and was, a ruse to exploit its "members", specifically. CODE just set a dogma, under central control, to which adherents donated. CODE "members" have been screwed. Which makes the CODE concept twice as hilarious, successful, and eminently EVE. PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
000Hunter000 Missiles 'R' Us 115	Posted - 2017.02.18 14:32:15 - [52] - Quote Whats code? I've seen so many (in)famous corps/alliances come and go ... Eve is like life, nothing lasts forever. On another note puts on tinfoil hat there are times i suspect CCP from secretly messing with large corps/alliances. For what purpose? Hell do i know, i only know that at some point or another, when a corp/alliance gets too big or too well known, something happens to them and they croak and die.
Salvos Rhoska 2196	Posted - 2017.02.18 14:42:13 - [53] - Quote 000Hunter000 wrote: Whats code? I've seen so many (in)famous corps/alliances come and go ... Eve is like life, nothing lasts forever. On another note puts on tinfoil hat there are times i suspect CCP from secretly messing with large corps/alliances. For what purpose? Hell do i know, i only know that at some point or another, when a corp/alliance gets too big or too well known, something happens to them and they croak and die. CODE is/was like the Westboro Church. Westboro Church, despite its international widespread notoriety, actually only has about 40 registered members. Its puny. Puny even compared to the member count of many corps in a maligned, evil online spaceship game from Iceland. Actual CODE membership, let alone control of CODE assets, is even smaller. There are many idiots running around claiming to be CODE members, but actually arent. They just tried to ride the wave, but actually are not CODE, or have any control/ownership of CODE. Now, CODE is cashing out. Thanks for all the donations/assets, you idiots. You where never legit CODE to begin with. Jokes on you lololololol PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 272	Posted - 2017.02.18 14:43:06 - [54] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Arthur Aihaken wrote: Avaelica Kuershin wrote: For how long? I seem to recall other groups were supposedly buried ... not so long ago. They're reporting that Goonswarm had 30k Catalysts stolen as well... Yep. Goons are broke now and no way Burn Jita will be happening now. Everyon in highsec is totally safe now and can freely AFK mine in antitanked covetors in 0.5 system. Totally all good. I don't think so. If (and that is a big IF) code is really disbanding, smaller groups will form and will go rampage. Bumping and ransoming will increase by a lot, when they loose their seemingly endless source of money. Or they will reform themself with another leader and just take a break to recover from that shock. Whatever is it. Change is good. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
Yebo Lakatosh Sewing Lightning 74	Posted - 2017.02.18 14:51:23 - [55] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: CODE is, and was, a ruse to exploit its "members", specifically. Aren't all corps? Those industry or excavations based ones definately feel so... for an onlooker. Of course I would never draw such conclusions from the outside. They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
Sasha Nemtsov New Order Logistics CODE. 478	Posted - 2017.02.18 14:54:57 - [56] - Quote I've no idea whether what's been said is true. It does sadden me that, as usual, all the carebears can go on about is isk. They seem to draw suspiciously sensual delight in even mentioning the alleged amount involved, slavering like rabid dogs over numbers on a page, pixels on a screen. The New Order of Highsec was created by James 315 for a purpose which transcends all money-grubbing and isk-slurping; the rebuilding of Highsec under the aegis of the New Halaima Code of Conduct. Fortunately, great ideas are impervious to assault by nefarious agency; and the Code is a great idea. For me, it's back to business as usual....
Salvos Rhoska 2196	Posted - 2017.02.18 15:10:38 - [57] - Quote ^ Thats the whole joke. You dont need to be in CODE to bump/gank. You never did. CODE is/was just a farcical front to accrue assets off sycophants. PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Sir BloodArgon Aulmais Mad Scientists Consortium 45	Posted - 2017.02.18 15:15:17 - [58] - Quote Quote: James 315 rage quitting after nonconsensual removal of his assets? But the guy was just playing a role... My irony meter just exploded.
Clockwork Robot Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 35	Posted - 2017.02.18 15:21:37 - [59] - Quote There are so many people posting in a CODE thread to tell everyone how irrelevant CODE is, that one starts to suspect CODE-alts posting for the purposes of playing up CODEs relevance... And the sheer effort involved, no matter who is really posting... Is exhausting to follow. For a community that cant insult WoW quickly enough, you lot sure do love the "Sunday Drama Troll" model they practice... Except like... every day.
Buoytender Bob Ronin Exploration Mission and Mining 225	Posted - 2017.02.18 15:22:12 - [60] - Quote Someone in power told me this: "It's all fake news!" .....or is it? To buck the popular trend, I began to Rage Start instead of Rage Quit. ...and every time I get another piece of Carbon, I know exactly what CCP is getting this Christmas.
Djsaeu Xx-illuminati-xX 40	Posted - 2017.02.18 15:35:17 - [61] - Quote And? It is just another day at the office. So what's the big deal?
Salvos Rhoska 2196	Posted - 2017.02.18 15:37:33 - [62] - Quote Djsaeu wrote: And? It is just another day at the office. So what's the big deal? CODE is folding. Savior of EVE is backing out, and saving himself and his monies. PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 109	Posted - 2017.02.18 16:07:17 - [63] - Quote I will be mining my fleet afk like i always do...but now with a nice smirk on my face code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 27680	Posted - 2017.02.18 16:33:29 - [64] - Quote popcorn In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Hipqo Tyde8 165	Posted - 2017.02.18 17:19:11 - [65] - Quote Well, Dom (James 315) just put up the remaining CODE alliance and assets for sale, on facebook lol. He claims the website will go down aswell. So this is officially the end of CODE as we know it! A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
MadMuppet A Better Corp Name 1209	Posted - 2017.02.18 17:24:54 - [66] - Quote For Sale: Used CODE Mining Certificates. Be the first in your Citadel to have a certified, only slightly used, CODE mining permit, framed, and with an Official Certificate of Authenticity! Offer expires while you wait, allow 4-6 weeks for delivery. Send requests to: Rasi Olasas Theology Council Law School Planet 7 Moon 4 Arshat Nashar Domain This message brought to you by Experience(tm). When common sense fails you, experience will come to the rescue. Experience(tm) from the makers of CONCORD.
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 110	Posted - 2017.02.18 18:22:02 - [67] - Quote Hey person who took the assets, contract me stuff. Some ISK would be nice too. Mu Wah ! code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita
Alderson Point Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2017.02.18 19:08:22 - [68] - Quote Sasha Nemtsov wrote: I've no idea whether what's been said is true. It does sadden me that, as usual, all the carebears can go on about is isk. They seem to draw suspiciously sensual delight in even mentioning the alleged amount involved, slavering like rabid dogs over numbers on a page, pixels on a screen. The New Order of Highsec was created by James 315 for a purpose which transcends all money-grubbing and isk-slurping; the rebuilding of Highsec under the aegis of the New Halaima Code of Conduct. Fortunately, great ideas are impervious to assault by nefarious agency; and the Code is a great idea. For me, it's back to business as usual.... You were only meant to drink the coolaid, not drown yourself in it! Whilst you cannot fool all of the people all of the time, you can fool true believers so fully that they just dont realise when they have been rodgered with a twenty foot cactus.
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5627	Posted - 2017.02.18 19:30:56 - [69] - Quote Mmmmmmmm... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Kenneth Endashi State Protectorate Caldari State 119	Posted - 2017.02.18 19:40:07 - [70] - Quote This is why Eve is a good game
Alderson Point Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2017.02.18 19:55:20 - [71] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: Mmmmmmmm... and Oh, yeah... My only regret is I have only one upvote to give!
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5637	Posted - 2017.02.19 02:51:41 - [72] - Quote Could have been the ganking, might have been the tears. Could have been three or four AWOXers I don't know, but all our sht got pilfered... My corp mates want to kill me, I think I'm gonna die. Tell me, me oh me oh my, Isn't it time to rage quit? Should have bought a permit, man the irony. Should have never left a billion ISK in sht Just lying around - just to tempt fate you see... How could I bite the hand that feeds me? How stupid can you get? Maybe Facebook can save me yet. It's definitely time to biomass. Now it's completely over, all the fun is gone. No more high-sec mining permits, Grief or salt, thinking about what went wrong... My Pirate career is over, I think I'm going to cry. All my victims laugh and tell me, Just harden the fck up and die! ..... (Sing to the tune of "Could have been the Whiskey")* I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate 1124	Posted - 2017.02.19 02:55:59 - [73] - Quote Code 2 judgement day coming to your view screens soon "You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear"n++
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5637	Posted - 2017.02.19 02:57:46 - [74] - Quote Mina Sebiestar wrote: Code 2 judgement day coming to your view screens soon More like "Code: Salvation Army". I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5637	Posted - 2017.02.19 03:06:32 - [75] - Quote 30k Goonswarm Catalysts: 300-billion. 2 years worth of Code hangar loot: 700-billion. Sudden implosion, biomass, rage quit and selling your sht on Facebook... Priceless. There are some things RMT can't buy. For everything else, there's mining permits. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.*
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 58773	Posted - 2017.02.19 03:40:14 - [76] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: Hipqo wrote: I guess its just a little bit nice to see the old saying work "what goes around, comes around". Poetic Justice. That's funny, especially coming from someone who's Corp name is CODE.d DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
Chewytowel Haklar Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 245	Posted - 2017.02.19 03:47:16 - [77] - Quote It doesn't matter if CODE folds. There will always be those willing to instill the necessary fear in others in a game that is not meant to be safe. Even if CODE fails others will rise!
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 58773	Posted - 2017.02.19 03:57:33 - [78] - Quote Yup, as usual I blame it all on Soundwave & Co. DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
mkint 1488	Posted - 2017.02.19 04:08:55 - [79] - Quote DeMichael Crimson wrote: Arthur Aihaken wrote: Hipqo wrote: I guess its just a little bit nice to see the old saying work "what goes around, comes around". Poetic Justice. That's funny, especially coming from someone who's Corp name is CODE.d DMC well, except he does seem to have a forums history of being anti-gank. I suspect code.d is his anti-code. corp. He probably ought to make it more clear in his sig or something. Maxim 6. If violence wasnGÇÖt your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
Exaido Fire Over Light Those Infernal Machines 99	Posted - 2017.02.19 05:30:13 - [80] - Quote This was inevitable. At some point, after ganking all the freighter loot, it becomes only logical to gank their own haul. It's what they do.They get so used to cargo scanning freighers, cargo scanning their own structure had to be next.
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 58796	Posted - 2017.02.19 07:03:53 - [81] - Quote mkint wrote: DeMichael Crimson wrote: Arthur Aihaken wrote: Hipqo wrote: I guess its just a little bit nice to see the old saying work "what goes around, comes around". Poetic Justice. That's funny, especially coming from someone who's Corp name is CODE.d DMC well, except he does seem to have a forums history of being anti-gank. I suspect code.d is his anti-code. corp. He probably ought to make it more clear in his sig or something. I actually viewed his reply as both funny and appropriate. My statement was done as friendly jest, not as cynical sarcasm. I thought that was apparent due to the 'wink' in my posted reply. DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 18645	Posted - 2017.02.19 08:23:19 - [82] - Quote Djsaeu wrote: And? It is just another day at the office. So what's the big deal? CODE was the only content miners had left in highsec.
Sasha Nemtsov New Order Logistics CODE. 479	Posted - 2017.02.19 08:51:10 - [83] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: You dont need to be in CODE to bump/gank. You never did. No indeed, Salvos; but according to CCP you need to turn bumping and ganking into a business if you are to take it to the levels attained by the New Order of Highsec (your 'CODE'). At the start of the movement, in 2012, James 315 had detailed discussions with the GMs in order to hammer out a workable model for the business. What you see now is part of the solution. The New Order has never been confined to the CODE. Alliance - which it pre-dated by quite some time. What people forget (if they ever knew...) is that the whole thing was started by a lone capsuleer bumping miners in an asteroid belt. It's not bumping or ganking which grabs the attention - they're quite unremarkable by themselves - it's the harnessing of those activities to a solid business model which - however you view it - is now known (and loved, or reviled) across the whole of New Eden. That is quite an achievement from the actions of one man. This recent business can do the movement no harm, for we've never depended on stockpiled loot for our success. It's the willingness of like-minded women and men to go out there and make a difference in Highsec which has sustained us throughout, and which will continue to sustain us, in the face of all adversity.
Lucas Lucias Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 29	Posted - 2017.02.19 09:55:34 - [84] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Djsaeu wrote: And? It is just another day at the office. So what's the big deal? CODE was the only content miners had left in highsec. That is really very poor content, for me it would be one or two catalysts who ignore my Procurer while making some sort of religious announcements in local before jumping into another system then appearing a bit later flashy red in their pods after blapping some noob in an easy to kill mining ship who will get an email winding him up and telling him how great James315 is. If you call that content then more fool you, well actually I think that says it all about you. And you moan about can flipping being removed and yet you can still can flip, you just become suspect so others can shoot you so for you it is too much risk, boo hooo cry more please.
Exaido Fire Over Light Those Infernal Machines 102	Posted - 2017.02.19 10:08:09 - [85] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: 30k Goonswarm Catalysts: 300-billion. 2 years worth of Code hangar loot: 700-billion. Sudden implosion, biomass, rage quit and selling your sh*t on Facebook... Priceless. There are some things RMT can't buy. For everything else, there's mining permits. Too perfect!
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3619	Posted - 2017.02.19 11:24:23 - [86] - Quote I'm just glad we have Salvos here to make sense of it all. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Tamazaki Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 67	Posted - 2017.02.19 11:52:25 - [87] - Quote At least something interesting happened.
Shinji Katsuragi Y.G.G.D.R.A.S.I.L. Branch 2	Posted - 2017.02.19 12:04:31 - [88] - Quote Hipqo wrote: Well, Dom (James 315) just put up the remaining CODE alliance and assets for sale, on facebook lol. He claims the website will go down aswell. So this is officially the end of CODE as we know it! Hmm, Id like to buy all of that for 1 ISK.
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 18648	Posted - 2017.02.19 12:29:21 - [89] - Quote Lucas Lucias wrote: baltec1 wrote: Djsaeu wrote: And? It is just another day at the office. So what's the big deal? CODE was the only content miners had left in highsec. That is really very poor content, for me it would be one or two catalysts who ignore my Procurer while making some sort of religious announcements in local before jumping into another system then appearing a bit later flashy red in their pods after blapping some noob in an easy to kill mining ship who will get an email winding him up and telling him how great James315 is. If you call that content then more fool you, well actually I think that says it all about you. I didn't say it was good content, what I said was that was all that was left. Lucas Lucias wrote: And you moan about can flipping being removed and yet you can still can flip, you just become suspect so others can shoot you so for you it is too much risk, boo hooo cry more please. Wrong, can flipping died when CCP gave a built in ore bay. It might still happen but not enough to sustain a pirate population.
Lucas Lucias Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 33	Posted - 2017.02.19 13:02:49 - [90] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Lucas Lucias wrote: baltec1 wrote: Djsaeu wrote: And? It is just another day at the office. So what's the big deal? CODE was the only content miners had left in highsec. That is really very poor content, for me it would be one or two catalysts who ignore my Procurer while making some sort of religious announcements in local before jumping into another system then appearing a bit later flashy red in their pods after blapping some noob in an easy to kill mining ship who will get an email winding him up and telling him how great James315 is. If you call that content then more fool you, well actually I think that says it all about you. I didn't say it was good content, what I said was that was all that was left. Lucas Lucias wrote: And you moan about can flipping being removed and yet you can still can flip, you just become suspect so others can shoot you so for you it is too much risk, boo hooo cry more please. Wrong, can flipping died when CCP gave a built in ore bay. It might still happen but not enough to sustain a pirate population. Rubbish, they have plenty of content, want to get better yields from processing then invest in a EC, but of course that needs a corp, then they become subject to war decs, etc. Due to the removal of the watch list they can still stay in corp and mine, content is still there. So why do I still see people dropping cans with ore in them?
Clockwork Robot Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 42	Posted - 2017.02.19 13:06:09 - [91] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Lucas Lucias wrote: baltec1 wrote: Djsaeu wrote: And? It is just another day at the office. So what's the big deal? CODE was the only content miners had left in highsec. That is really very poor content, for me it would be one or two catalysts who ignore my Procurer while making some sort of religious announcements in local before jumping into another system then appearing a bit later flashy red in their pods after blapping some noob in an easy to kill mining ship who will get an email winding him up and telling him how great James315 is. If you call that content then more fool you, well actually I think that says it all about you. I didn't say it was good content, what I said was that was all that was left. Lucas Lucias wrote: And you moan about can flipping being removed and yet you can still can flip, you just become suspect so others can shoot you so for you it is too much risk, boo hooo cry more please. Wrong, can flipping died when CCP gave a built in ore bay. It might still happen but not enough to sustain a pirate population. Now, dont get me wrong... I am not knocking pirates here. But your statement there grabbed my attention. I do not feel anything can "sustain" pirates, because there seem to be far too many. Sure, sure, sure. There are noobs, industrialists, miners, scammers... But there are also a simply massive amount of people playing the bad guy. Playing the villain. All MMOs seem to face this issue. Anytime a teenager can role-play the bad person, they will. Be it your Horde, Empire, Pirate... What have you. EVE has it bad because there cannot be a "three lions for every infant gazelle" ratio. It just cant work. So the gazelles get a buff. The lions get a nerf. And the tears start. Basically brother, you cant honestly wave the "HTFU" flag at the fraction that didnt decide to "be da bad gui" for not wanting to log in and get gate-ganked. (Now that I think about it, crying about nerfs to your playstyle is pretty ANTI-HTFU... No matter who is doing it.)
Avaelica Kuershin Paper Cats 318	Posted - 2017.02.19 16:45:15 - [92] - Quote Clockwork Robot wrote: All MMOs seem to face this issue. Anytime a teenager can role-play the bad person, they will. Be it your Horde, Empire, Pirate... What have you. EVE has it bad because there cannot be a "three lions for every infant gazelle" ratio. It just cant work. A matter of perception IMO. In high I see far more gazelles than lions whereas other players only see the lions.
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5662	Posted - 2017.02.19 17:05:01 - [93] - Quote Gazelles? Where do you see Gazelles? All I see are Lemmings... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 18648	Posted - 2017.02.19 17:29:45 - [94] - Quote Lucas Lucias wrote: Rubbish, they have plenty of content, want to get better yields from processing then invest in a EC, but of course that needs a corp, then they become subject to war decs, etc. Due to the removal of the watch list they can still stay in corp and mine, content is still there. So why do I still see people dropping cans with ore in them? Refining ore... Sounds thrilling.
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 18648	Posted - 2017.02.19 17:39:03 - [95] - Quote Clockwork Robot wrote: Now, dont get me wrong... I am not knocking pirates here. But your statement there grabbed my attention. I do not feel anything can "sustain" pirates, because there seem to be far too many. Sure, sure, sure. There are noobs, industrialists, miners, scammers... But there are also a simply massive amount of people playing the bad guy. Playing the villain. All MMOs seem to face this issue. Anytime a teenager can role-play the bad person, they will. Be it your Horde, Empire, Pirate... What have you. EVE has it bad because there cannot be a "three lions for every infant gazelle" ratio. It just cant work. So the gazelles get a buff. The lions get a nerf. And the tears start. Basically brother, you cant honestly wave the "HTFU" flag at the fraction that didnt decide to "be da bad gui" for not wanting to log in and get gate-ganked. (Now that I think about it, crying about nerfs to your playstyle is pretty ANTI-HTFU... No matter who is doing it.) Miners didnt HTFU, they got their challenges removed. Its not crying to point out a lot of content has been lost over the years as CCP have catered to people craving more CCP enforced safety. This also means that they also removed more or less everything that might have been interesting. Just look at the content they get to look forwards to, chomping simi-AFK on rocks and refining said rocks or just selling to a buyer. Its a sorry state when the likes of CODE was all they had and even that looks to be gone now.
Railyn Quisqueya Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 64	Posted - 2017.02.19 17:42:17 - [96] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Djsaeu wrote: And? It is just another day at the office. So what's the big deal? CODE was the only content miners had left in highsec. I'd dare say this is the best content they've provided yet. Or is content only "content" when it involves ganking miners?
Lucas Lucias Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 35	Posted - 2017.02.19 17:50:35 - [97] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Lucas Lucias wrote: Rubbish, they have plenty of content, want to get better yields from processing then invest in a EC, but of course that needs a corp, then they become subject to war decs, etc. Due to the removal of the watch list they can still stay in corp and mine, content is still there. So why do I still see people dropping cans with ore in them? Refining ore... Sounds thrilling. Cause and effect, simple stuff really. That you chose not to war dec stuff, or that you chose not to can flip because you go suspect so you can be shot by more capable people is your issue in terms of content. The Rorqual is going to have a much greater effect on people mining in hisec then CODE ever could have due to the massive yield possible from these ships and the impact on the market, but that is still content...
Clockwork Robot Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 44	Posted - 2017.02.19 18:11:50 - [98] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Clockwork Robot wrote: Now, dont get me wrong... I am not knocking pirates here. But your statement there grabbed my attention. I do not feel anything can "sustain" pirates, because there seem to be far too many. Sure, sure, sure. There are noobs, industrialists, miners, scammers... But there are also a simply massive amount of people playing the bad guy. Playing the villain. All MMOs seem to face this issue. Anytime a teenager can role-play the bad person, they will. Be it your Horde, Empire, Pirate... What have you. EVE has it bad because there cannot be a "three lions for every infant gazelle" ratio. It just cant work. So the gazelles get a buff. The lions get a nerf. And the tears start. Basically brother, you cant honestly wave the "HTFU" flag at the fraction that didnt decide to "be da bad gui" for not wanting to log in and get gate-ganked. (Now that I think about it, crying about nerfs to your playstyle is pretty ANTI-HTFU... No matter who is doing it.) Miners didnt HTFU, they got their challenges removed. Its not crying to point out a lot of content has been lost over the years as CCP have catered to people craving more CCP enforced safety. This also means that they also removed more or less everything that might have been interesting. Just look at the content they get to look forwards to, chomping simi-AFK on rocks and refining said rocks or just selling to a buyer. Its a sorry state when the likes of CODE was all they had and even that looks to be gone now. I'll take your word for it, baltec. But, a man once said, "Crying about your playstyle getting nerfed is pretty anti-HTFU, *no matter who is doing it*" That means crying about other people crying too.
Clockwork Robot Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 44	Posted - 2017.02.19 18:14:43 - [99] - Quote Railyn Quisqueya wrote: baltec1 wrote: Djsaeu wrote: And? It is just another day at the office. So what's the big deal? CODE was the only content miners had left in highsec. I'd dare say this is the best content they've provided yet. Or is content only "content" when it involves ganking miners? Its all content friend. Someone is getting ****, and someone is crying about it. The players just change hands. (And the guy not getting **** laughs, like the pendulum will never swing back.)
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 18651	Posted - 2017.02.19 18:16:22 - [100] - Quote Clockwork Robot wrote: I'll take your word for it, baltec. But, a man once said, "Crying about your playstyle getting nerfed is pretty anti-HTFU, *no matter who is doing it*" That means crying about other people crying too. Again, pointing out the reality is not crying. Mining is in a very bad place and highsec has lost a lot of content over the years.
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 18651	Posted - 2017.02.19 18:21:47 - [101] - Quote Railyn Quisqueya wrote: baltec1 wrote: Djsaeu wrote: And? It is just another day at the office. So what's the big deal? CODE was the only content miners had left in highsec. I'd dare say this is the best content they've provided yet. Or is content only "content" when it involves ganking miners? Oh this is gold, I love a good hanger raid.
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 18651	Posted - 2017.02.19 18:26:20 - [102] - Quote Lucas Lucias wrote: Cause and effect, simple stuff really. That you chose not to war dec stuff, or that you chose not to can flip because you go suspect so you can be shot by more capable people is your issue in terms of content. Literally just told you why mining piracy died and it wasn't the suspect system. Lucas Lucias wrote: The Rorqual is going to have a much greater effect on people mining in hisec then CODE ever could have due to the massive yield possible from these ships and the impact on the market, but that is still content... Not in highsec gameplay its not. A skiff pilot in highsec is still going to be the single most boring activity in gaming as well as the most simple.
Railyn Quisqueya Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 65	Posted - 2017.02.19 18:38:22 - [103] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Railyn Quisqueya wrote: baltec1 wrote: Djsaeu wrote: And? It is just another day at the office. So what's the big deal? CODE was the only content miners had left in highsec. I'd dare say this is the best content they've provided yet. Or is content only "content" when it involves ganking miners? Oh this is gold, I love a good hanger raid. You may not enjoy this type of content, understandably, since it hits close to home. But I have to say, it is pretty poetic and entertaining. But I won't call it "content" if it makes you feel better.
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 18651	Posted - 2017.02.19 18:42:56 - [104] - Quote Railyn Quisqueya wrote: You may not enjoy this type of content, understandably, since it hits close to home. But I have to say, it is pretty poetic and entertaining. But I won't call it "content" if it makes you feel better. My corp has literally stolen other alliances, try again.
Railyn Quisqueya Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 65	Posted - 2017.02.19 18:59:25 - [105] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Railyn Quisqueya wrote: You may not enjoy this type of content, understandably, since it hits close to home. But I have to say, it is pretty poetic and entertaining. But I won't call it "content" if it makes you feel better. My corp has literally stolen other alliances, try again. Did you just Conway me? Don't doubt your corp has. But was referring to this specific instance which doesn't seem to be sitting well with you.
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 18651	Posted - 2017.02.19 19:06:55 - [106] - Quote Railyn Quisqueya wrote: Did you just Conway me? Don't doubt your corp has. But was referring to this specific instance which doesn't seem to be sitting well with you. bittersweet. Love a good raid but the who who asked why this is important needed the answer. Only reason CODE getting stomped is huge news is because it was the last bit of content miners had. This could be a good thing if it highlights just how barron highsec has become in terms of player created content.
Lucas Lucias Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 36	Posted - 2017.02.19 19:08:06 - [107] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Lucas Lucias wrote: Cause and effect, simple stuff really. That you chose not to war dec stuff, or that you chose not to can flip because you go suspect so you can be shot by more capable people is your issue in terms of content. Literally just told you why mining piracy died and it wasn't the suspect system. Lucas Lucias wrote: The Rorqual is going to have a much greater effect on people mining in hisec then CODE ever could have due to the massive yield possible from these ships and the impact on the market, but that is still content... Not in highsec gameplay its not. A skiff pilot in highsec is still going to be the single most boring activity in gaming as well as the most simple. Piracy is the act of making profit out of valuable loot, because the price of the available ore in hisec is so low and that at most you can fill about 3.2m worth of Ore in a barge or exhumer you don't make money pirating that, which is why most people who do piracy are waiting on gates ganking transport ships and freighters. Mining piracy in hisec was always a moronic thing to do, which is why CODE did it. And you seem to think it is a great gaping hole in game play, seriously what a stupid point of view. People do mine into cans still, if you are too lazy to spot them then that is your issue, same as it is your issue that you do not war dec people or that you do not want to go suspect. 27k m3 of ore is hardly worth nabbing though is it, maybe 27k m3 of ice is, that is 8m, nope not worth it either... Pirating mining ships is moronic... I came across people in hisec who were content to mine and enjoyed doing it, it is content for them, but not for you, I don't know why you have such a thing about it, especially as you don't do hisec mining yourself. And those same people who just like to do it will still do it even though what they are mining is worth nothing, because they can...
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 18651	Posted - 2017.02.19 19:33:57 - [108] - Quote Lucas Lucias wrote: Piracy is the act of making profit out of valuable loot, because the price of the available ore in hisec is so low and that at most you can fill about 3.2m worth of Ore in a barge or exhumer you don't make money pirating that, which is why most people who do piracy are waiting on gates pirating transport ships and freighters. Mining piracy in hisec was always a moronic thing to do, which is why CODE did it. And you seem to think it is a great gaping hole in game play, seriously what a stupid point of view. CODE were never pirates, jetcan nerf happened just as they were born nd the org took off because of the nerfs to the other gameplay options. There was a huge amount of content to go with jetcans from pirating miners, baiting fights with said pirates and so on. Lucas Lucias wrote: People do mine into cans still, if you are too lazy to spot them then that is your issue Where are the pirates, the people hunting them and all of the cans? Jetcan mining is not a thing anymore because CCP added a built in jetcan, there is no need for one anymore. Lucas Lucias wrote: , same as it is your issue that you do not war dec people or that you do not want to go suspect. How many times are you going to repeat this lie? This is the third time I have said its not true. Lucas Lucias wrote: 27k m3 of ore is hardly worth nabbing though is it, maybe 27k m3 of ice is, that is 8m, nope not worth it either... And yet its enough to be worth mining. Lucas Lucias wrote: Pirating mining ships is moronic... I came across people in hisec who were content to mine and enjoyed doing it, it is content for them, but not for you, I don't know why you have such a thing about it, especially as you don't do hisec mining yourself. And those same people who just like to do it will still do it even though what they are mining is worth nothing, because they can... They don't do it because its fun, they do it because its a risk free way to make isk. Not the best way granted but it can be done while you play another game.
Lucas Lucias Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 36	Posted - 2017.02.19 21:07:25 - [109] - Quote So why are you wittering on about piracy against miners then? And people do jet can mine, I have seen them. You have said continuously in other threads that you were upset with the change to can flipping and cried tears over it, CODE was in part born out of that cry of pain which you alluded to in your reply here. And they were never pirates, pirates fight for loot not tears, get your terminology right. So stop calling blowing up mining ships as piracy because it is not. Mining in hisec is hardly worth it, especially when the impact of massive mining from Rorquals hits home in the markets, but if that is what people want to waste their time doing and people are moronic enough to steal that worthless ore what can I say, but I find people whining about people no longer pirating miners idiotic in the extreme. The pirates are killing freighters and transport ships on the way to market, the risk is there. CODE is and always has been an idiotic organisation, but at least some saw where to make money and Kusion is one of them as was your corp under Warr Akini.
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 274	Posted - 2017.02.19 21:27:00 - [110] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Not in highsec gameplay its not. A skiff pilot in highsec is still going to be the single most boring activity in gaming as well as the most simple. You mean a mining orca right? A skiff is full after a few minutes. A drone mining orca can stay in a belt for hours. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
Hiasa Kite Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 476	Posted - 2017.02.19 21:31:01 - [111] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: baltec1 wrote: Not in highsec gameplay its not. A skiff pilot in highsec is still going to be the single most boring activity in gaming as well as the most simple. You mean a mining orca right? A skiff is full after a few minutes. A drone mining orca can stay in a belt for hours. But always more of a target, partially because it's more valuable, partially because the pilot is almost certainly completely AFK, making for an easier-than-usual gank. <^.^> I'm a cat lol
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1516	Posted - 2017.02.19 21:32:23 - [112] - Quote Lucas Lucias wrote: So why are you wittering on about piracy against miners then? ... So stop calling blowing up mining ships as piracy because it is not. What do NPC pirates do? They are called pirates right? The term seems to be totally fine for whatever purpose, even if it doesn't fit your narrow definition. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 274	Posted - 2017.02.19 21:34:56 - [113] - Quote baltec1 wrote: CODE was the only content miners had left in highsec. Not really. There are can flippers, thiefs, ransom bumpers, yellow flashy bait pilots, mtu killers, and don't forget heavy diskussions in local. I drive an ice info channel, where we have sometimes hours of heavy arguying about everything eve and rl related. Especially when a certain guy turns up. He loves to bring religion to every theme. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
Lucas Lucias Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 36	Posted - 2017.02.19 21:39:15 - [114] - Quote Hiasa Kite wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: baltec1 wrote: Not in highsec gameplay its not. A skiff pilot in highsec is still going to be the single most boring activity in gaming as well as the most simple. You mean a mining orca right? A skiff is full after a few minutes. A drone mining orca can stay in a belt for hours. But always more of a target, partially because it's more valuable, partially because the pilot is almost certainly completely AFK, making for an easier-than-usual gank. No no no, it is certainly not AFK, I have mined with a Skiff and an Orca. And that makes a gank fun, because the Orca has a ship hanger and that is when you change to a ECM burst ship for lol's.
Teckos Pech The Executives Executive Outcomes 5960	Posted - 2017.02.19 21:47:20 - [115] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Lucas Lucias wrote: Rubbish, they have plenty of content, want to get better yields from processing then invest in a EC, but of course that needs a corp, then they become subject to war decs, etc. Due to the removal of the watch list they can still stay in corp and mine, content is still there. So why do I still see people dropping cans with ore in them? Refining ore... Sounds thrilling. Wow! Refining ore. Logging in right now!! On second thought, gonna go sit in the living room staring out the window in case somebody walks by. "The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
Teckos Pech The Executives Executive Outcomes 5960	Posted - 2017.02.19 21:58:03 - [116] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: baltec1 wrote: CODE was the only content miners had left in highsec. Not really. There are can flippers, thiefs, ransom bumpers, yellow flashy bait pilots, mtu killers, and don't forget heavy diskussions in local. I drive an ice info channel, where we have sometimes hours of heavy arguying about everything eve and rl related. Especially when a certain guy turns up. He loves to bring religion to every theme. When I started can flipping was much, much more common than it is now. I often mine while working from home, and I have not seen any of that content you speak of. Mining in HS was much, much more common too. Going to a 0.5 system alot of the belts would be heavily mined. Cans anchored all over the place, etc. Now, in those same systems the belts are wastelands with alot of untouched asteroids. Yes, this is an anecdote, but over the years, my experience matches up to what baltec1 has been writing. And technically, you can have that heavy "diskussions" with or without mining. And that kinda makes baltec1's point, that mining is really boring without some non-mining activity thrown in on top of it. "The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 275	Posted - 2017.02.19 22:01:17 - [117] - Quote Hiasa Kite wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: baltec1 wrote: Not in highsec gameplay its not. A skiff pilot in highsec is still going to be the single most boring activity in gaming as well as the most simple. You mean a mining orca right? A skiff is full after a few minutes. A drone mining orca can stay in a belt for hours. But always more of a target, partially because it's more valuable, partially because the pilot is almost certainly completely AFK, making for an easier-than-usual gank. If you bring enough firepower to suicide gank my 400khp orca in a 0.7 system, then you deserve it. If i am afk and cannot turn on my large shield booster of course. Wich happens not often. Because i have a 7 ship fleet to manage. I do not bother to mine with drones btw. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 18654	Posted - 2017.02.19 22:04:55 - [118] - Quote Hiasa Kite wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: baltec1 wrote: Not in highsec gameplay its not. A skiff pilot in highsec is still going to be the single most boring activity in gaming as well as the most simple. You mean a mining orca right? A skiff is full after a few minutes. A drone mining orca can stay in a belt for hours. But always more of a target, partially because it's more valuable, partially because the pilot is almost certainly completely AFK, making for an easier-than-usual gank. Orca got a fairly great buff. Sucker gets good yield and a solid tank, they only downside is it can be bumped.
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 275	Posted - 2017.02.19 22:06:24 - [119] - Quote Lucas Lucias wrote: Hiasa Kite wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: baltec1 wrote: Not in highsec gameplay its not. A skiff pilot in highsec is still going to be the single most boring activity in gaming as well as the most simple. You mean a mining orca right? A skiff is full after a few minutes. A drone mining orca can stay in a belt for hours. But always more of a target, partially because it's more valuable, partially because the pilot is almost certainly completely AFK, making for an easier-than-usual gank. No no no, it is certainly not AFK, I have mined with a Skiff and an Orca. And that makes a gank fun, because the Orca has a ship hanger and that is when you change to a ECM burst ship for lol's. I was talking about a single drone mining orca, what is the ultimate afk miner now. A little less yield then an unboosted skiff or mack plus massive tank and cargo. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 275	Posted - 2017.02.19 22:10:46 - [120] - Quote Teckos Pech wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: baltec1 wrote: CODE was the only content miners had left in highsec. Not really. There are can flippers, thiefs, ransom bumpers, yellow flashy bait pilots, mtu killers, and don't forget heavy diskussions in local. I drive an ice info channel, where we have sometimes hours of heavy arguying about everything eve and rl related. Especially when a certain guy turns up. He loves to bring religion to every theme. When I started can flipping was much, much more common than it is now. I often mine while working from home, and I have not seen any of that content you speak of. Mining in HS was much, much more common too. Going to a 0.5 system alot of the belts would be heavily mined. Cans anchored all over the place, etc. Now, in those same systems the belts are wastelands with alot of untouched asteroids. Yes, this is an anecdote, but over the years, my experience matches up to what baltec1 has been writing. And technically, you can have that heavy "diskussions" with or without mining. And that kinda makes baltec1's point, that mining is really boring without some non-mining activity thrown in on top of it. Sorry. I should have mentioned, that i am a full time ice miner in the best ice constellation of new eden. With 8 belts in 6 chained systems. 1 system has 3 belts after the downtime. A lot of miner attracts a lot of "content creators". =ƒÿÄ "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 18654	Posted - 2017.02.19 22:15:58 - [121] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: I was talking about a single drone mining orca, what is the ultimate afk miner now. A little less yield then an unboosted skiff or mack plus massive tank and cargo. If you go with the augmented drones you can get damn close to a hulks yield while sporting a 500k tank
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 275	Posted - 2017.02.19 22:16:19 - [122] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Hiasa Kite wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: baltec1 wrote: Not in highsec gameplay its not. A skiff pilot in highsec is still going to be the single most boring activity in gaming as well as the most simple. You mean a mining orca right? A skiff is full after a few minutes. A drone mining orca can stay in a belt for hours. But always more of a target, partially because it's more valuable, partially because the pilot is almost certainly completely AFK, making for an easier-than-usual gank. Orca got a fairly great buff. Sucker gets good yield and a solid tank, the only downside is it can be bumped. Combat Orca are also a thing. Against bumpers you can fit an 500mn mwd, what brings you back faster back to the belt. Or circle a can or another ship to prevent the most bumping attempts. Of course that makes bumpers angry, what leads to local rants. More content, yay. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 275	Posted - 2017.02.19 22:19:32 - [123] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: I was talking about a single drone mining orca, what is the ultimate afk miner now. A little less yield then an unboosted skiff or mack plus massive tank and cargo. If you go with the augmented drones you can get damn close to a hulks yield while sporting a 500k tank True. But code. can adapt too. When i disrupted their ganks with an eco falcon, the started using eccm scripts. And i saw them suicide killing ice mining drones too. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 18654	Posted - 2017.02.19 22:31:24 - [124] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: baltec1 wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: I was talking about a single drone mining orca, what is the ultimate afk miner now. A little less yield then an unboosted skiff or mack plus massive tank and cargo. If you go with the augmented drones you can get damn close to a hulks yield while sporting a 500k tank True. But code. can adapt too. When i disrupted their ganks with an eco falcon, the started using eccm scripts. And i saw them suicide killing ice mining drones too. Edit. About the yield. I tested a max yield fitted ice drone mining orca with the best drones, what makes one block ice in about 50 sec. plus drone travel time. My skiffs make 2 block in 76 sec. without boost. With boost in 45,6 sec. The hulk is even better. Edit 2. It's been a while since i tested that. Maybe CCP buffed the orca or the drones since then. Idk. Orca got a rebalance, mining drone wise you get 27.8 m3/s while the tanked hulk gets 28.3 m3/s. It doesn't factor in flight time though but still a great yield for the orca.
Josef Djugashvilis 3534	Posted - 2017.02.19 22:35:40 - [125] - Quote The ganking activity and charging the dumber folk in the game a fee, which is was then used to finance the fee player's ship destruction, part of CODE activities was always fine and should be applauded for originality. But to be honest, I personally found them to be the only role players I actually found creepy. Apart from the obvious fact that I find role playing in Eve..well..odd. Still, each to their own and all that class of thing. This is not a signature.
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 275	Posted - 2017.02.19 22:45:07 - [126] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Orca got a rebalance, mining drone wise you get 27.8 m3/s while the tanked hulk gets 28.3 m3/s. It doesn't factor in flight time though but still a great yield for the orca. A tanked hulk - that's a good one. Nobody flys a hulk for its tank. I know a hulk fleet around. He never mines more then 2 or 3 hours a day. So he speeds up at maximum. I mine 3 days per week, 10 - 12 hours per day. Sometimes more. I make a lot of ice with my 5 tanked skiffs. Managing Hulks would burn me out fast. And Macks are not fast or strong enough. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
aldhura Perkone Caldari State 115	Posted - 2017.02.19 22:46:54 - [127] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: baltec1 wrote: CODE was the only content miners had left in highsec. Not really. There are can flippers, thiefs, ransom bumpers, yellow flashy bait pilots, mtu killers, and don't forget heavy diskussions in local. I drive an ice info channel, where we have sometimes hours of heavy arguying about everything eve and rl related. Especially when a certain guy turns up. He loves to bring religion to every theme. This, I had more issues with non code cultists than from code. Code was never robbed, its part of the game which they like to call the sandbox, so its really just another day for them, nothing to see. The members of code feel strongly about what they do, so they bound to be completely unaffected as they do it for the cause, not the isk.. right ???
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 275	Posted - 2017.02.19 22:52:09 - [128] - Quote aldhura wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: baltec1 wrote: CODE was the only content miners had left in highsec. Not really. There are can flippers, thiefs, ransom bumpers, yellow flashy bait pilots, mtu killers, and don't forget heavy diskussions in local. I drive an ice info channel, where we have sometimes hours of heavy arguying about everything eve and rl related. Especially when a certain guy turns up. He loves to bring religion to every theme. This, I had more issues with non code cultists than from code. Code was never robbed, its part of the game which they like to call the sandbox, so its really just another day for them, nothing to see. The members of code feel strongly about what they do, so they bound to be completely unaffected as they do it for the cause, not the isk.. right ??? Right. It is like that, what Shepard Book said about the operative. Their faith in their mission makes them dangerous. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 18654	Posted - 2017.02.19 22:53:34 - [129] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: A tanked hulk - that's a good one. Yea here is a fun fact for you, todays hulk has a worse tank than the original hulk.
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 275	Posted - 2017.02.19 23:01:41 - [130] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: A tanked hulk - that's a good one. Yea here is a fun fact for you, todays hulk has a worse tank than the original hulk. Even a medium tanked skiff can die fast in hs. Go to zkillboard.com and search for banzabanza. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1517	Posted - 2017.02.20 00:58:48 - [131] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Arthur Aihaken wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: 500B is not much. Hardly a 'bigger plan'...lol This isn't the first time this sort of thing has occurred. Won't be the last. It's over 500-billion ISK. Probably more like 600 to 700-billion ISK - not including the 30k Catalysts which would put it well over 1-trillion ISK. Yes, not that much. Only a minimum 2-year setback, fail-cascade and implosion of CODE. Just a scratch... Thanks. I'll come back to this quote in a few days. Not yet claiming the whole thing is a ruse, as I don't have the evidence to confirm that yet, but surprise, surprise minerbumping.com didn't go into archive today. The start of today's post is very interesting though: Fact and fiction, truth and falsehood. How to tell the difference? When we remember that the CODE always wins (always), it's pretty easy. However, for those who have yet to embrace the Code, things get murky, and it's easy to be led astray. And that inevitably brings them great disappointment and heartbreak--repeatedly, if they're not careful. We'll be seeing a demonstration of that later, but let's not get ahead of ourselves... Carebears, so ready normally, to disregard anything a ganker in CODE. says, have been so willing to jump at this news and embrace it. Will be interesting to see where the truth eventually lies. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5665	Posted - 2017.02.20 02:04:53 - [132] - Quote If it's a ruse - well played. If it's legit - well, it's not like they'll really be missed in high-sec... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Lucas Lucias Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 37	Posted - 2017.02.20 06:52:02 - [133] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: Lucas Lucias wrote: Hiasa Kite wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: baltec1 wrote: Not in highsec gameplay its not. A skiff pilot in highsec is still going to be the single most boring activity in gaming as well as the most simple. You mean a mining orca right? A skiff is full after a few minutes. A drone mining orca can stay in a belt for hours. But always more of a target, partially because it's more valuable, partially because the pilot is almost certainly completely AFK, making for an easier-than-usual gank. No no no, it is certainly not AFK, I have mined with a Skiff and an Orca. And that makes a gank fun, because the Orca has a ship hanger and that is when you change to a ECM burst ship for lol's. I was talking about a single drone mining orca, what is the ultimate afk miner now. A little less yield then an unboosted skiff or mack plus massive tank and cargo. I will run two Orca's and it sounds like you use the same fit with 400k EHP, I sometimes switch to an Orca with a Skiff and have a ECM burst ship in the hanger, because I hope that CODE will up their game, but as they are dying which I kept on pointing out before this theft I did not see it as necessary. But I never mine AFK, unless you count a trip to the toilet or making a cuppa as AFK.
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1521	Posted - 2017.02.20 07:24:12 - [134] - Quote Lucas Lucias wrote: ...this could all be an attention seeking wail so that brown noses like Shae can pretend that CODE is winning, .... Oh Drac, you don't disappoint. I can smell your butthurt from here. You should go wipe that. As to CODE., I could care less that it is CODE. Could be Goons, PL or even BoB for all that it matters. It's just hialrious how desperately some people want this to be true and have been quick to claim the death of CODE. because CODE. said so. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Lucas Lucias Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 41	Posted - 2017.02.20 08:19:03 - [135] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Lucas Lucias wrote: ...this could all be an attention seeking wail so that brown noses like Shae can pretend that CODE is winning, .... Oh Drac, you don't disappoint. I can smell your butthurt from here. You should go wipe that. As to CODE., I could care less that it is CODE. Could be Goons, PL or even BoB for all that it matters. It's just hialrious how desperately some people want this to be true and have been quick to claim the death of CODE. because CODE. said so. I don't know why you see any butt hurt in what I posted, in any case I do not see this as the end of CODE even if it is real, there are some pretty dedicated players in there who do more than die as cyno alts Despite your obvious attitude there are many things I respect about certain CODE players, such as organisation and dedication for a start. Kusion was freighter, Industrial and Transport ganking and is very very good at it, this is at least the third event around the loot of such ganking that I am aware of. o7
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 3143	Posted - 2017.02.20 10:05:45 - [136] - Quote Lucas Lucias wrote: I want to emphasise something here, a number of people noted the fall off in activity in terms of CODE ganking mining ships before this event, they seemed to be less and less inclined to do it, their focus was on real pirating which was ganking freighters and industrial s and making ISK which has caused multiple rifts in CODE, not just this one. CODE are likely to survive this IMO, but the slope is downwards and has been for some time, this could all be an attention seeking wail so that brown noses like Shae can pretend that CODE is winning, however the simple truth is that there are less and less active agents running around and there are more and more miners who don't see CODE at all, if you want to call that winning then go ahead. I am just enjoying watching this as it develops to its ultimate whimpering ending. Ganking is still going to happen, and pirating will too, the issue is moving stuff to market, which is what you have seen for some time along the pipes and at the market hubs and there is no issue in that apart from bumping being a fail mechanism, which I am now hearing is being looked at by CCP in terms of the physics of bumping. I get that you are just playing the metagame Dracvlad and thus you have your narrative, but don't go all Baghdad Bob on us with it in the face of the facts. The killboards report that the CODE. alliance had its 6th best month ever in terms of number of kills last month, coming off of the 4th most number of kills in December. The activity of the alliance is still near or at peak, and while I can't say if your neck of the woods has seen less Code enforcement in recent months, the numbers say the alliance is chugging along just fine, as always. Shae's point on this seems legit. The response to this "event" shows how relevant and important the New Order is in this game. The constant people posting to celebrate the (clearly fake) demise of an organization, and posting in this thread and on reddit about how happy they are that finally someone "did something about those bad people", or how irrelevant that organization was/is, speaks volumes on just how relevant it really is. Way more relevant that the hundreds of lame and irrelevant corps and alliance that don't do anything of note. Replace CODE with any of these irrelevant ones in the same reddit thread and you would just get a collective shrugging of the shoulders, and perhaps a yawn before it dropped of the front page. Only a few organization have as much relevance as CODE. and would generate such interest. This manufactured drama has highlighted a persuasive misunderstanding of the Code, CODE. and the New Order of Highsec that if you understand, would recognize that nothing was ever in jeopardy. CODE. is just one alliance that enforces the document known as the New Halaima Code of Conduct (AKA The Code), as part of the New Order of Highsec. CODE. could implode or be superseded by another alliance in the loose and decentralized organization known as the New Order, yet the ideas documented in The Code would keep on being enforced. I would venture to say at this point, they are so entrenched and part of New Eden they are beyond even James 315 himself (forgive my sacrilege!). The Code is forever. It is a living manifestation of the game CCP has built. The Code isn't going anywhere regardless of some squabbling over pixels or numbers in a database, whether the squabbling is real or not. There is a reason they say the Code always wins, 'cause it always does. There is no level of damage one can inflict on the New Order that would stop it, and given it exists as primarily an idea, and an idea that enjoys privileged status with CCP at that, the Code is invulnerable. This yin is in contrast to the yang of Anti-Ganking movement, also an idea, which seems to always fail, non-stop, and daily, largely because they set out on an impossible task mostly for unclear moral reasons, emotion, or more often out of butthurt. While AG could demonstrate more competence (especially if they got over their fear of losing ships), they can never win but they, like the New Order, also cannot be headshot and killed given the decentralized and ideological nature of the movement. Really though, it is just a game. Eve is a great game that can produce such high level, emergent game play, but it seems to happen less and less as the player base (and developers) keep pushing for more safety, and favouring consensual, honourable PvP over the raw ingredients for drama like this. While I will continue to support the New Order and do my best to help create content and interesting player stories like this one, I just wish such emergent events were more frequent elsewhere in the game. The 8 Golden Rules of Eve Why Do They Gank?
Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 937	Posted - 2017.02.20 10:56:48 - [137] - Quote This thread delivers Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Sasha Nemtsov New Order Logistics CODE. 484	Posted - 2017.02.20 11:07:38 - [138] - Quote Black Pedro delivers.....
Lucas Lucias Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 41	Posted - 2017.02.20 11:17:35 - [139] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: get that you are just playing the metagame Dracvlad and thus you have your narrative, but don't go all Baghdad Bob on us with it in the face of the facts. The killboards report that the CODE. alliance had its 6th best month ever in terms of number of kills last month, coming off of the 4th most number of kills in December. The activity of the alliance is still near or at peak, and while I can't say if your neck of the woods has seen less Code enforcement in recent months, the numbers say the alliance is chugging along just fine, as always. Shae's point on this seems legit. The response to this "event" shows how relevant and important the New Order is in this game. The constant people posting to celebrate the (clearly fake) demise of an organization, and posting in this thread and on reddit about how happy they are that finally someone "did something about those bad people", or how irrelevant that organization was/is, speaks volumes on just how relevant it really is. Way more relevant that the hundreds of lame and irrelevant corps and alliance that don't do anything of note. Replace CODE with any of these irrelevant ones in the same reddit thread and you would just get a collective shrugging of the shoulders, and perhaps a yawn before it dropped of the front page. Only a few organization have as much relevance as CODE. and would generate such interest. This manufactured drama has highlighted a persuasive misunderstanding of the Code, CODE. and the New Order of Highsec that if you understand, would recognize that nothing was ever in jeopardy. CODE. is just one alliance that enforces the document known as the New Halaima Code of Conduct (AKA The Code), as part of the New Order of Highsec. CODE. could implode or be superseded by another alliance in the loose and decentralized organization known as the New Order, yet the ideas documented in The Code would keep on being enforced. I would venture to say at this point, they are so entrenched and part of New Eden they are beyond even James 315 himself (forgive my sacrilege!). The Code is forever. It is a living manifestation of the game CCP has built. The Code isn't going anywhere regardless of some squabbling over pixels or numbers in a database, whether the squabbling is real or not. There is a reason they say the Code always wins, 'cause it always does. There is no level of damage one can inflict on the New Order that would stop it, and given it exists as primarily an idea, and an idea that enjoys privileged status with CCP at that, the Code is invulnerable. This yin is in contrast to the yang of Anti-Ganking movement, also an idea, which seems to always fail, non-stop, and daily, largely because they set out on an impossible task mostly for unclear moral reasons, emotion, or more often out of butthurt. While AG could demonstrate more competence (especially if they got over their fear of losing ships), they can never win but they, like the New Order, also cannot be headshot and killed given the decentralized and ideological nature of the movement. Really though, it is just a game. Eve is a great game that can produce such high level, emergent game play, but it seems to happen less and less as the player base (and developers) keep pushing for more safety, and favouring consensual, honourable PvP over the raw ingredients for drama like this. While I will continue to support the New Order and do my best to help create content and interesting player stories like this one, I just wish such emergent events were more frequent elsewhere in the game. While I am not on the bandwagon of CODE dying etc. at this point I have noticed a few things about key players and their activity or lack thereof, and as you know this is not the first time we have seen a splat over freighter loot is it? But I will wait and see. Yes you cannot be headshot, nor can you be stopped by people in game, small fast ships that are difficult to catch, a multitude of targets, bumping, etc., the only thing that will kill CODE as an ideal is boredom and the realisation that most people who do PvP are not exactly fans of the play style. Well I win every time I mine something and not get blown up, I win every time I move stuff to the market hubs. You can say that CODE win because I use tanked ships and act in a very defensive way while operating in hisec, but I would do that anyway. So you are winning? So am I! I don't agree with you that CCP are blocking this gameplay.
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 278	Posted - 2017.02.20 12:50:23 - [140] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: This thread delivers You're welcome. Edit. I mean f**k code. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 3147	Posted - 2017.02.20 12:59:51 - [141] - Quote Lucas Lucias wrote: While I am not on the bandwagon of CODE dying etc. at this point I have noticed a few things about key players and their activity or lack thereof, and as you know this is not the first time we have seen a splat over freighter loot is it? But I will wait and see. The faces and names may change, but CODE. alliance is still there. The numbers don't lie and show bot-aspirants exploding at strong and consistent rates. They also show about 90 active CODE. characters in the last 7 days, which has been around the norm for the last couple years, maybe even up a tad. People take breaks, people get banned, people move on, (even an alliance could too) but the Code itself isn't going anywhere. As for the alliance, CODE. certainly isn't going anywhere over some dispute over freighter loot, at least not as long as it is practically given to you by so many clueless and incompetent freighter pilots. Come on, you are acting like an ISK-obsessed carebear. I know you know there are more important things in this game than virtual objects, so why would you think that could bring down an organization that explicitly rejects such dirty materialism? Lucas Lucias wrote: Yes you cannot be headshot, nor can you be stopped by people in game, small fast ships that are difficult to catch, a multitude of targets, bumping, etc., the only thing that will kill CODE as an ideal is boredom and the realisation that most people who do PvP are not exactly fans of the play style. Realization? With that sentence my friend, you have hit upon the exact reason the Code will never die. If everyone accepted Eve was in fact a PvP game everywhere all the time and played accordingly even in highsec, the New Order might very well be in danger of dying of boredom from a lack of targets. But if that happened, we would die happy having achieved total victory given that is the very goal of the movement as outlined in the Code. But the sad reality is the majority of highsec doesn't view the game this way and probably never will. And with every buff to highsec safety CCP just makes highsec players more complacent and more isolated from PvP, and thus fattening up another future target for us. Don't you see how the Code always wins? Either we get to explode you, or force you to take steps to defend yourself in a PvP game. We don't care that some small-minded players define PvP has 'honouable duels at the sun' or something that only happens outside of highsec. We reject this eBushido space samurai nonsense and bring the real Eve to the part of New Eden that needs it the most: highsec, exactly as CCP has ordained us to. I think we can both agree there is little danger of us growing bored given the reluctance of highsec players, both "PvPers" as you define them and pure industrial-minded players, to actually treat highsec as part of a competitive PvP sandbox game and not some mining or hauling screensaver you run while vacuuming the house or weeding the garden. Lucas Lucias wrote: Well I win every time I mine something and not get blown up, I win every time I move stuff to the market hubs. You can say that CODE win because I use tanked ships and act in a very defensive way while operating in hisec, but I would do that anyway. So you are winning? So am I! I don't agree with you that CCP are blocking this gameplay. Indeed you are winning Eve. Now to be fair, CCP has stacked the deck so much in your favour it is pretty trivial to avoid losing anything of consequence to another player in highsec, but you are indeed winning every time you safely deliver the goods you gathered to market. In fact, the actions of the New Order and of highsec criminals contribute to you getting a better price for your goods by interdicting your competition and stimulating demand for your items. CCP isn't blocking you from doing this. In fact, this is exactly how CCP intends for the game to work. You as a diligent industrialist are rewarded, while the lazy, greedy or clueless industrialist ends up fodder for the other players. Player-driven risk in highsec they call it. Well, this drifted off-topic. I think enough words have be said over risk vs. reward, the New Order, the sorry state of highsec and so forth. I will say I am eager to hear the complete story of the "heist" and all the attendant fallout. Sounds like there are a few good stories to come regarding how this drama played out and the opportunities for shenanigans it created. The 8 Golden Rules of Eve Why Do They Gank?
Lucas Lucias Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 41	Posted - 2017.02.20 13:57:24 - [142] - Quote Well first of all I also analyse the numbers, such as loot drops etc., plus the cost of ganking freighters and of course this did hurt, but a mortal blow no, I never thought that for one moment, I just found it interesting based on what I knew about previous splats over this issue. ISK obsessed carebear, blowing things up takes ISK as one of a number of resources, that is it. I have always played as if I was in danger of being blown up even in hisec, what I find amusing is that most AG players have as healthy a contempt for auto piloting freighters as you do. My issue is however more to do with a lack of balance, but I am not going to go on about it, I am back in 0.0 with a decent alliance with the intention to get involved in some of the interesting fleet combat that is possible now. That is where the threat comes from, but you are right there will always be some players doing this and doing it in CODE. You say that it is stacked in our favour, but I don't see it the same way, I see it stacked in your favour in terms of a number of key mechanics, but we can agree to disagree, from my side of the fence I do not expect CCP will make hisec risk free as that is against the ethos of the game, however that should not mean that certain mechanics should not be adjusted, but I really cannot be bothered to go down that rabbit hole for yet another exchange, you know where I sit on that part. I expect they will all kiss and make up and gank together again soon., heck it might even be deliberate to mask the real date of burn Jita, would not surprise me at all...
Dom Arkaral The Conference Elite CODE. 938	Posted - 2017.02.20 17:05:28 - [143] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: This thread delivers You're welcome. Edit. I mean f**k code. Miner, calm down before you break down Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome CCL Loyalist
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 280	Posted - 2017.02.20 17:31:50 - [144] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: This thread delivers You're welcome. Edit. I mean f**k code. Miner, calm down before you break down "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
Alderson Point Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 27	Posted - 2017.02.20 21:01:23 - [145] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: This thread delivers You're welcome. Edit. I mean f**k code. Don't encourage them, it only makes them believe they matter. Sure, they exist, sure they kill some stuff, other than that they are like an embarrassing disease, people are uncomfortable mentioning them and everyone is glad when the antibiotics kick in. And if you mention them on the forums they burst out like herpes going "LOOOK AT MEEEEEE"
Sasha Nemtsov New Order Logistics CODE. 485	Posted - 2017.02.20 22:32:35 - [146] - Quote Alderson Point wrote: Don't encourage them, it only makes them believe they matter. And if you mention them on the forums Hello Alderson. Nice to see you struggling to take your own advice there! I do however give you credit for your correct use of the word 'than' (not quoted), for which 'then' is frequently and incorrectly substituted in these sub-forums, to my sorrow. The English language deserves better, and it's an easy error to correct - I mean one letter, for goodness' sake. Carry on.
Galaxy Pig New Order Logistics CODE. 1125	Posted - 2017.02.20 22:59:13 - [147] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: 000Hunter000 wrote: Whats code? I've seen so many (in)famous corps/alliances come and go ... Eve is like life, nothing lasts forever. On another note puts on tinfoil hat there are times i suspect CCP from secretly messing with large corps/alliances. For what purpose? Hell do i know, i only know that at some point or another, when a corp/alliance gets too big or too well known, something happens to them and they croak and die. CODE is/was like the Westboro Church. Westboro Church, despite its international widespread notoriety, actually only has about 40 registered members. Its puny. Puny even compared to the member count of many corps in a maligned, evil online spaceship game from Iceland. Actual CODE membership, let alone control of CODE assets, is even smaller. There are many idiots running around claiming to be CODE members, but actually arent. They just tried to ride the wave, but actually are not CODE, or have any control/ownership of CODE. Now, CODE is cashing out. Thanks for all the donations/assets, you idiots. You where never legit CODE to begin with. Jokes on you lololololol lol who are you talking to? *Highsec is owned by players now.* Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
David Barksdale The United Gangster Disciples 0	Posted - 2017.02.22 11:30:28 - [148] - Quote It does not matter what happened or how much isk was lost if it even really happened. The main thing is nothing changes when I lay next to my wife in bed I think about minerbumping as I scoot closer to her
David Barksdale The United Gangster Disciples 0	Posted - 2017.02.22 11:55:59 - [149] - Quote Lies it's all lies don't believe the hype
morion Lighting Build 190	Posted - 2017.02.22 13:03:12 - [150] - Quote Sasha Nemtsov wrote: [he English language deserves better, code: the english sand witch deserves butter am i doing this right?
Sasha Nemtsov New Order Logistics CODE. 489	Posted - 2017.02.22 13:15:24 - [151] - Quote morion wrote: Sasha Nemtsov wrote: [he English language deserves better, code: the english sand witch deserves butter am i doing this right? Or indeed, 'the English sound, which deserves batter....' Quite right, Morion, confirming that we (the English) invented the 'dog's-dinner' literary style.. And now, back to our scheduled programme..
Jhonas Riddick New Corporate Order SLYCE Pirates 13	Posted - 2017.02.22 13:45:07 - [152] - Quote David Barksdale wrote: Lies it's all lies don't believe the hype The hype is all there is... if you don't believe that, then what do you have? I've spent years mining in high sec, initially in Kamio and the surround systems. This was back when James315 first started wandering about, though back then the smug arrogant fa+ºade just got him laughed it. (Calm down, bumper.) Never had a run in with a bumper or a ganker in all the years since. Bumpers and gankers, while having influence on people at an individual level ( "waaaaa.. I lost a ship" ) have very little influence on the wider EvE Experience. Did I manage to sell something at market for 1isk more because someone else got ganked somewhere, by someone? How about 10isk more? 100? More? I have no idea, which means even if the price had increased, it wasn't enough for me to notice and was, to me, irrelevant, just like the bumpers and gankers I have never seen, let alone met. Was there a 'roid in existence that wouldn't have been if they hadn't bumped and ganked some random afk'er? Asteroids are not something we are short of so again, irrelevant. I don't say much on the forums, I just have a read every so often and look for a giggle or two. Bumpers and gankers have provided that giggle, on and off, drawing forth tears and rage from those few so inclined to come here and post about an avoidable loss. I am genuinely curious how many actually players post on these forums, expressed as a percentage of total players. I suspect the people who post on these forums are but a minor part of the player base. I'm not quite convinced I could find 1500 different user on these forums, not even the population of Jita, allowing for the bots there cancelling out the Alts here. For me, by far the biggest giggle has come from those who confuse relevance on the forum with relevance in the game. Enjoy.
Sasha Nemtsov New Order Logistics CODE. 489	Posted - 2017.02.22 14:41:47 - [153] - Quote Jhonas Riddick wrote: For me, by far the biggest giggle has come from those who confuse relevance on the forum with relevance in the game. Enjoy. You're clearly a veteran and observant player, Jhonas; I like to see that reflected in a post. I do have one minor gripe though: Relevance is irrelevant, whether on the forums or in-game; Personal Fulfilment trumps Relevance every time.
Jhonas Riddick New Corporate Order SLYCE Pirates 13	Posted - 2017.02.22 15:03:52 - [154] - Quote Sasha Nemtsov wrote: Jhonas Riddick wrote: For me, by far the biggest giggle has come from those who confuse relevance on the forum with relevance in the game. Enjoy. You're clearly a veteran and observant player, Jhonas; I like to see that reflected in a post. I do have one minor gripe though: Relevance is irrelevant, whether on the forums or in-game; Personal Fulfilment trumps Relevance every time. Indeed it does, every single time.
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 120	Posted - 2017.02.22 15:41:43 - [155] - Quote YAWN. No one cares code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita. code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5703	Posted - 2017.02.22 16:17:07 - [156] - Quote Nope. But it's been entertaining. CODE and Goons griefed and Burn Jita ganked. And it's not even April... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Jhonas Riddick New Corporate Order SLYCE Pirates 13	Posted - 2017.02.22 16:17:58 - [157] - Quote Hazel TuckerTS wrote: YAWN. No one cares Inb4 "Calm down, Yawner."
Hazel TuckerTS University of Caille Gallente Federation 121	Posted - 2017.02.22 18:16:13 - [158] - Quote Jhonas Riddick wrote: Hazel TuckerTS wrote: YAWN. No one cares Inb4 "Calm down, Yawner." Calm down ganker code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita. code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
Telegram Sam Crom's Angels 1549	Posted - 2017.02.23 01:15:29 - [159] - Quote I thought loyalanon got permabanned awhile back?

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