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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2017.02.21 16:34:22 -
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Hey folks!
Back when we announced the Ascension mining drone changes as part of the mining foreman ship revamp we mentioned that we'd be adding the new Mining Drone Specialization skill to the requirements for the T2 mining drones at a future point.
Adding the Mining Drone Spec skill to the T2 mining drone requirements will have 2 effects:
- You'll need to have the Mining Drone Spec skill trained to level 1 in order to launch and operate T2 mining drones.
- T2 mining drones will start receiving the benefits of the Mining Drone Spec skill (+2% yield and speed per level)
Since enough time has passed since Ascension to allow people to train the new skill we're currently planning on making this change in our upcoming 119.3 release scheduled for March 14th.
This change will only impact the Mining Drone II items, as the 'Augmented' mining drones, the T2 ice harvesting drones and the 'Excavator' capital mining drones already use their appropriate spec skills.
Game Designer | Team Five-0
Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
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Amphal Deka
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.02.21 18:31:33 -
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Ideas if we will get more options of mining drones in the near future? Just like combat drones their a set from light etc can't we get the same for mining drones? |
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
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Posted - 2017.02.21 19:52:15 -
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why no ship that could launch more than 5 mining drones,how about making rorqual able to fire 10 harvester mining drones or 15 . we should be able to use more than 5 drones when it comes about mining. maybe extending bandwidth on exhumers? |
Cade Windstalker
852
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Posted - 2017.02.21 21:45:32 -
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Amak Boma wrote:why no ship that could launch more than 5 mining drones,how about making rorqual able to fire 10 harvester mining drones or 15 . we should be able to use more than 5 drones when it comes about mining. maybe extending bandwidth on exhumers?
This would just generate lag on the server for no benefit. It's far better for server performance for drones to be limited to 5 rather than spamming out tons of individual objects like you're suggesting. |
Captain Campion
Campion Corp.
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Posted - 2017.02.21 22:22:57 -
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I'd love for mining drones to start mining when I press my attack target hotkey. |
Penance Toralen
Compass Fox
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Posted - 2017.02.21 22:41:13 -
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Amphal Deka wrote:Ideas if we will get more options of mining drones in the near future? Just like combat drones their a set from light etc can't we get the same for mining drones?
There already is this;
- Civilian
- Tech1
- Harvester Drones
- Augumented Drones
- Tech2
The only remaining specialization would be if there was some way to provide enhancement to specific ores in a similar way that mining crystals do. |
Jia Lan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.02.21 23:29:12 -
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Captain Campion wrote:I'd love for mining drones to start mining when I press my attack target hotkey.
I would like to see parity function with salvage drones, which response to the drone attack command and will also keep mining the next closest asteroids like how salvage drones will work to salvage the next closest wrecks to the player's ship until there is nothing left in the player's drone control range.
Since one of the biggest vulnerabilities of a mining rorqual is losing his drones and having them spend more time traveling than mining, it doesn't seem overpowering to add this parity. |
Chris Winter
Winters Are Coming
639
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Posted - 2017.02.21 23:39:19 -
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Thanks for the warning.
While you're touching mining drones, could you please make the "f" key have mining drones start mining the asteroid you have selected? Thanks! |
Scuzzy Logic
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
162
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Posted - 2017.02.22 06:58:05 -
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I would like a T2, 10MBpS mining drone for XMas... |
Will Swiftsure
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.02.22 08:24:12 -
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Great stuff!
as previous posters mentioned it would be nice with F key to mine with mining drones.
If you have both mining drones and combat drones selected in drone ui the system should scan if the targeted object is a asteroid or ship, drone, etc... and the correct drones will do their thing to the selected object while the other drones will hang back.
Also it would be cool if you added gas harvesting drones and possible abc ore specialization drones.
And perhaps a high slot module for orca similar to the one on carriers that help lock targets faster and perhaps could increase mining yield or mining speed.
Maybe give it a 90 sec siege?
OT: Any chance you can give npc ships a few drones too that they visibly launch and stuff?  |
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Mr Bowers
Coalition Alliance Corporation
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Posted - 2017.02.22 08:58:39 -
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Penance Toralen wrote:Amphal Deka wrote:Ideas if we will get more options of mining drones in the near future? Just like combat drones their a set from light etc can't we get the same for mining drones? There already is this;
- Civilian
- Tech1
- Harvester Drones
- Augumented Drones
- Tech2
The only remaining specialization would be if there was some way to provide enhancement to specific ores in a similar way that mining crystals do.
Great Idea! But they need to allow the blue prints to be in LP store. Not done by only drops. The mining drones cost way to much as CCP has done a big push on mining drones. Not every one in eve is rich or can lose them in 0.0. Hopeul ccp will find away to reduce the costs of all mining drones. The biggest one cost 1.7b each? No reason for it! They should cost no more then a hulk fit around 300m each. Rorquals are dying like crazy and can be replaced not the 5b in drones. Which is crazy. |
Basil Vulpine
Blueprint Haus
Blades of Grass
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Posted - 2017.02.22 11:11:53 -
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Mr Bowers wrote:
Great Idea! But they need to allow the blue prints to be in LP store. Not done by only drops. The mining drones cost way to much as CCP has done a big push on mining drones. Not every one in eve is rich or can lose them in 0.0. Hopeul ccp will find away to reduce the costs of all mining drones. The biggest one cost 1.7b each? No reason for it! They should cost no more then a hulk fit around 300m each. Rorquals are dying like crazy and can be replaced not the 5b in drones. Which is crazy.
The cost of the excavator drones is mostly in the parts rather than the BPC. Each drone last I looked was around 80m for the BPC cost. The rest was mostly the rogue drone parts, especially the AIs and the capillaries. Due to their relatively limited supply they are very vulnerable to market manipulation to make a bad situation even worse. |
Xerxes Fehrnah
Angelus.Mortis
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2017.02.22 14:29:53 -
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Please enable the F shortcut on mining drones. I don't even mine any longer, but this bugs the heck out of me that only these one kind of drones do not respond to F.
Target rock - F to mine. |
Vivianne Athonille
HC - Porkrinds
28
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Posted - 2017.02.22 14:39:45 -
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Xerxes Fehrnah wrote:Please enable the F shortcut on mining drones. I don't even mine any longer, but this bugs the heck out of me that only these one kind of drones do not respond to F.
Target rock - F to mine.
I think you meant "Mine Repeatedly" |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
14691
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Posted - 2017.02.22 15:06:08 -
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You guys should check out SISI once it comes up with the March release in the next day or two. :)
Game Designer | Team Five-0
Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
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Kiddoomer
The Red Sequence
147
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Posted - 2017.02.23 10:48:22 -
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Yeah a bit of mining drones love, I will test that on Singularity when available.
I'm too to make mining drone "Mine repeatedly" with the F shortcut, to be more convenient and intuitive regarding use of drones.
Would be nice to see in the future a sentry (medium) mining drone with a lower yield for having to choose between a consistant low yield or a more rewarding one with mobile drones and moving next to rocks.
In the name of Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen :
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
14697
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Posted - 2017.02.23 17:47:08 -
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The reason for my cryptic post above is that we have already completed expanding the F shortcut to cause mining drones to mine repeatedly. :)
More details can be found in this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6846951
Game Designer | Team Five-0
Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2017.02.23 18:18:00 -
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Kiddoomer wrote:Yeah a bit of mining drones love, I will test that on Singularity when available. I'm too to make mining drone "Mine repeatedly" with the F shortcut, to be more convenient and intuitive regarding use of drones. Would be nice to see in the future a sentry (medium) mining drone with a lower yield for having to choose between a consistant low yield or a more rewarding one with mobile drones and moving next to rocks.
if you look at the post about the rorq it seems ccp is going in the direction of drones being short range mining and miners being long range this would run counter to that.
BLOPS Hauler
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Will Swiftsure
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2017.02.24 13:29:57 -
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Fozzie can you lower bandwidht requirements of ice mining drones with 50%? Or increase the available bandwidht on the orca.
Its kind of silly that a orca can only field 1 drone.
It should at least be able to field 1 ice drone and 2-3 light drones as defence imo. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2017.02.24 13:32:05 -
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Will Swiftsure wrote:Fozzie can you lower bandwidht requirements of ice mining drones with 50%? Or increase the available bandwidht on the orca.
Its kind of silly that a orca can only field 1 drone.
It should at least be able to field 1 ice drone and 2-3 light drones as defence imo.
Why?
Just abandon or recall the ice done if you need to launch combat.
BLOPS Hauler
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Alexander Bor
Polaris Global
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Posted - 2017.02.24 15:10:41 -
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Good news. Mining drones should be improved for their's yield. But this one is still not enough. |
Lexia Nova
GeneSia-IRC
Axiom Vocation Alliance
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Posted - 2017.02.24 23:11:11 -
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Ok ok this is a very small thing but it will be a godsend! Thankyou cant wait for that to hit the live server. |
Sylvia Kildare
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.02.24 23:12:40 -
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Amphal Deka wrote:Ideas if we will get more options of mining drones in the near future? Just like combat drones their a set from light etc can't we get the same for mining drones?
There are so many types of mining drones now... but only one salvage drone.
We need t2 salvage drones before they expand mining drone selection even further, IMO. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2017.02.25 03:22:43 -
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Sylvia Kildare wrote:Amphal Deka wrote:Ideas if we will get more options of mining drones in the near future? Just like combat drones their a set from light etc can't we get the same for mining drones? There are so many types of mining drones now... but only one salvage drone. We need t2 salvage drones before they expand mining drone selection even further, IMO.
why do we need t2 salvage drones?
if it is just because
"there is only one atm" that is not a good reason
BLOPS Hauler
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Kiddoomer
The Red Sequence
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Posted - 2017.02.25 10:37:55 -
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I tested the changes on Sisi and it's really great, I have the mining drone specialisation skill to IV and it really shows a difference, the speed bonus is definitely cool.
And yes the "mine repeteadly" with F shortcut that finalyworks now, it's AWESOME
In the name of Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen :
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
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Freelancer117
so you want to be a Hero
517
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Posted - 2017.02.26 18:52:12 -
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Can we have T2 salvage drones, with perhaps a higher salvage access chance compared to T1 drones
and a bit more maximum velocity and hp/resistances 
Eve online is :
A) mining simulator B) glorified chatroom C) spreadsheets online
D) CCP Games Pay to Win at skill leveling, with instant gratification
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Galactic Stoker
Siberian Alpha Fleet
SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2017.02.27 05:16:32 -
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Please add a bonus for mining drones to exhumers. I will be extremally appreciate to you about that. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
3849
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Posted - 2017.02.27 05:21:46 -
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Galactic Stoker wrote:Please add a bonus for mining drones to exhumers. I will be extremally appreciate to you about that.
they would have to nerf the base mining drone amount so the yeild stayed the same... unless you some how think exhumers need a yeild buff? they already use mining drones better than the barges.
BLOPS Hauler
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Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
1226
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Posted - 2017.02.27 05:43:11 -
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Cade Windstalker wrote:Amak Boma wrote:why no ship that could launch more than 5 mining drones,how about making rorqual able to fire 10 harvester mining drones or 15 . we should be able to use more than 5 drones when it comes about mining. maybe extending bandwidth on exhumers? This would just generate lag on the server for no benefit. It's far better for server performance for drones to be limited to 5 rather than spamming out tons of individual objects like you're suggesting.
rubbish.
It would radically increase the cost and risk associated with fielding a Rorqual.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
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Lugh Crow-Slave
3849
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Posted - 2017.02.27 06:03:09 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:Cade Windstalker wrote:Amak Boma wrote:why no ship that could launch more than 5 mining drones,how about making rorqual able to fire 10 harvester mining drones or 15 . we should be able to use more than 5 drones when it comes about mining. maybe extending bandwidth on exhumers? This would just generate lag on the server for no benefit. It's far better for server performance for drones to be limited to 5 rather than spamming out tons of individual objects like you're suggesting. rubbish. It would radically increase the cost and risk associated with fielding a Rorqual.
not really now that harvester drones are back in the loot table
BLOPS Hauler
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Penance Toralen
Compass Fox
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Posted - 2017.03.02 00:52:56 -
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Galactic Stoker wrote:Please add a bonus for mining drones to exhumers. I will be extremally appreciate to you about that.
That's why they buffed mining drone rigs. Plus Procurer and Skiff have drone HP bonuses. |
Casimir Omega
EVE University
Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2017.03.03 00:04:13 -
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Any idea if the t2 mining drones will then have a better yield and travel faster than the 'augmented' ones? :) |
Lexia Nova
GeneSia-IRC
Axiom Vocation Alliance
12
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Posted - 2017.03.03 16:58:02 -
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Casimir Omega wrote:Any idea if the t2 mining drones will then have a better yield and travel faster than the 'augmented' ones? :)
I would imagine not as the augmented ones have a base mining amount of 37m3 and T2 only 33m3 and both will recieve the bonus 2% per level. It just means we can eek a little more out of our t2 drones without having to pay out for the augmented ones. |
Will Swiftsure
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2017.03.03 19:24:26 -
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Only reason to add a t2 salvage drone is if it can salvage advanced wrecks of players and npc's. |
Andrei Rianovski
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2017.03.03 21:20:12 -
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Captain Campion wrote:I'd love for mining drones to start mining when I press my attack target hotkey.
This one! |
Casimir Omega
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2017.03.03 23:06:29 -
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Lexia Nova wrote:Casimir Omega wrote:Any idea if the t2 mining drones will then have a better yield and travel faster than the 'augmented' ones? :) I would imagine not as the augmented ones have a base mining amount of 37m3 and T2 only 33m3 and both will recieve the bonus 2% per level. It just means we can eek a little more out of our t2 drones without having to pay out for the augmented ones.
Ah, makes sense :)
Tyvm for explaining :D |
Pro Versius
Ceptacemia
DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2017.03.06 06:43:00 -
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Will Swiftsure wrote:Fozzie can you lower bandwidht requirements of ice mining drones with 50%? Or increase the available bandwidht on the orca.
Its kind of silly that a orca can only field 1 drone.
It should at least be able to field 1 ice drone and 2-3 light drones as defence imo.
Forget the ability to have 2-3 defense drones.. Just want to be able to mine more than one block of ice with a drone every 4 minutes.. T2 Ice Harvester drones are worthless... Can't be arsed to use them.. Would rather just use my mack.. Twice the ice in half the time.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
3870
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Posted - 2017.03.06 07:20:21 -
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Pro Versius wrote:Would rather just use my mack..
that's the point
BLOPS Hauler
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Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
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Posted - 2017.03.06 12:18:07 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Galactic Stoker wrote:Please add a bonus for mining drones to exhumers. I will be extremally appreciate to you about that. they would have to nerf the base mining drone amount so the yeild stayed the same... unless you some how think exhumers need a yeild buff? they already use mining drones better than the barges.
Please forgive the Lugh Crow-Slave as he always post some random BS around;
Never agree with anyone, anything if it's not out of his own idea;
In opossite i think the bonus for mining drones would be sweet as... ffs Exumers are more advanced ships from Mining Barges...
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Lugh Crow-Slave
3872
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Posted - 2017.03.06 12:27:59 -
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Naye Nathaniel wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Galactic Stoker wrote:Please add a bonus for mining drones to exhumers. I will be extremally appreciate to you about that. they would have to nerf the base mining drone amount so the yeild stayed the same... unless you some how think exhumers need a yeild buff? they already use mining drones better than the barges. Please forgive the Lugh Crow-Slave as he always post some random BS around; Never agree with anyone, anything if it's not out of his own idea; In opossite i think the bonus for mining drones would be sweet as... ffs Exumers are more advanced ships from Mining Barges...
to be fair you can find plenty of places where i show i do not agree with things that come from my ideas some times even in the same post. You can also find plenty of areas i agree with people. but saying "yeah that sounds good" is far less helpful then pointing out flaws it just maybe makes some one feel better
as for what i was saying
unless you have a valid argument that Exumers do not mine enough and need a buff to yield. the only way to keep balance giving them a drone yield buff would be to nerf the overall yield of Exumers so that the max potential yield stayed the same. none of that is random but i can see how the "please make my stuff better' mentality can make it hard to think critically. And they do use mining drones better than barges they have more mids this lets them add more drone nav comps upping the movement speed of mining drones at the cost of reduced tank.
BLOPS Hauler
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Thomas Lot
Astrocomical
Warped Intentions
118
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Posted - 2017.03.06 19:27:21 -
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Lexia Nova wrote:Casimir Omega wrote:Any idea if the t2 mining drones will then have a better yield and travel faster than the 'augmented' ones? :) I would imagine not as the augmented ones have a base mining amount of 37m3 and T2 only 33m3 and both will recieve the bonus 2% per level. It just means we can eek a little more out of our t2 drones without having to pay out for the augmented ones.
This is not quite accurate as the 'Augmented' drones will not be receiving the 2%/lvl bonus for mining drone specialization. See Fozzie's original post.
CCP Fozzie wrote:
This change will only impact the Mining Drone II items, as the 'Augmented' mining drones, the T2 ice harvesting drones and the 'Excavator' capital mining drones already use their appropriate spec skills.
The Augmented Mining Drones will still be marginally better even at mining drone specialization 5. With a 2% bonus the 33*10% will give T2 mining drones a rate of 36.6m3 at Mining Drone specialization 5 compared to the augmented 37m3. |
Sylvia Kildare
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
53
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Posted - 2017.03.08 11:07:03 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Sylvia Kildare wrote:Amphal Deka wrote:Ideas if we will get more options of mining drones in the near future? Just like combat drones their a set from light etc can't we get the same for mining drones? There are so many types of mining drones now... but only one salvage drone. We need t2 salvage drones before they expand mining drone selection even further, IMO. why do we need t2 salvage drones? if it is just because "there is only one atm" that is not a good reason
I mean, did we need t2 mining drones? or t2 combat or logistics drones?
or for that matter, t2 guns and t2 ships?
... we need t2 salvage drones because:
A) yes, there's only one variety of them, and that is the only drone for which that is true.
B) because t1 salvage drones are fairly underpowered and it'd be nice to have another reason to train the skill to L5 besides to make them SLIGHTLY better than terrible at salvaging.
C) as others have already said, to better salvage elite/advanced player wrecks and faction NPC wrecks, similar to how the salvager II module works vs. the salvager I module.
Salvaging 5 is a great skill to have if you enjoy salvaging. CCPlz make Salvage Drone Operation 5 just as meaningful a train by introducing Salvage Drone IIs + Salvage Drone Specialization skill. |
Sylvia Kildare
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.08 11:13:10 -
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Thomas Lot wrote:Lexia Nova wrote:Casimir Omega wrote:Any idea if the t2 mining drones will then have a better yield and travel faster than the 'augmented' ones? :) I would imagine not as the augmented ones have a base mining amount of 37m3 and T2 only 33m3 and both will recieve the bonus 2% per level. It just means we can eek a little more out of our t2 drones without having to pay out for the augmented ones. This is not quite accurate as the 'Augmented' drones will not be receiving the 2%/lvl bonus for mining drone specialization. See Fozzie's original post.
Or more precisely, the augmented ones already ARE receiving that bonus per level, so they're not getting anything additional in the March update.
Sum up: All varieties of mining drones except t1 and t2 got the buff in November, all varieties of ice drones except t1 got the buff in November... meaning t2 ice drones used the spec skill in November... but t2 mining drones did NOT use the spec skill in November... because CCP didn't want people in deep null to complain they suddenly couldn't use their t2 mining drones due to a new skillbook they had to have. It's been 4 months now and finally t2 mining drones are going to be treated equal to their new little sisters, t2 ice drones. Huzzah!
:::finally training mining drone op 5 on orca/porpoise boosh alt::: |
Sir BloodArgon Aulmais
Fortis Fortuna Adiuvatt
Dot Dot Dot
63
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Posted - 2017.03.16 13:46:13 -
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Sylvia Kildare wrote:because CCP didn't want people in deep null to complain they suddenly couldn't use their t2 mining drones due to a new skillbook they had to have. It's been 4 months now and finally t2 mining drones are going to be treated equal
And yet we still have general discussion thread about not being able to use the t2 drone "suddenly"
Wish I knew how people failed for 4 months straight. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
2848
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Posted - 2017.03.19 20:46:22 -
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Sir BloodArgon Aulmais wrote:Sylvia Kildare wrote:because CCP didn't want people in deep null to complain they suddenly couldn't use their t2 mining drones due to a new skillbook they had to have. It's been 4 months now and finally t2 mining drones are going to be treated equal And yet we still have general discussion thread about not being able to use the t2 drone "suddenly" Wish I knew how people failed for 4 months straight.
I've been failing at Eve for almost ten years straight... 
CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
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