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1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1052
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Posted - 2011.12.28 20:05:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:1-Up Mushroom wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:1-Up Mushroom wrote:Personally I've never scammed, even when I was dirt broke I never stooped that low, I actually have morals even in games.
Although trading and missioning is good ISK What does scamming have to do with morals? That just sounds silly... I wouldn't scam someone in RL, I'm guessing you wouldn't either... I think. You're right but it still has nothing to do with what happens in a video game.
To some
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
216
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Posted - 2011.12.28 20:12:00 -
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1-Up Mushroom wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:1-Up Mushroom wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:1-Up Mushroom wrote:Personally I've never scammed, even when I was dirt broke I never stooped that low, I actually have morals even in games.
Although trading and missioning is good ISK What does scamming have to do with morals? That just sounds silly... I wouldn't scam someone in RL, I'm guessing you wouldn't either... I think. You're right but it still has nothing to do with what happens in a video game. To some
To anyone. Video games are just games.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1103
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Posted - 2011.12.28 20:14:00 -
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Gogela wrote:
To anyone. Video games are just games.
And we all are dedicated role-players. Hmm.. |
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1052
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Posted - 2011.12.28 20:16:00 -
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Gogela wrote:
To anyone. Video games are just games.
Well of course they are, but there's still a human on the other side of the screen. Now scamming a NPC is different, but who scams NPC's 
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Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
28
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Posted - 2011.12.28 20:25:00 -
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It depends what you consider 'best'. I've found trading to yeild the most profit with the least effort, but I don't enjoy it and I don't generally like to stay near trade hubs, so I rarely do it. Unless you really just want to grind isk for whatever reason, I'd suggest it's best to do what you enjoy. If, for example, you prefer to live in a WH, missions are probably not a good avenue for you. Sure, mining is not profitable compared to other things, but some people actually enjoy it. Personally, I enjoy running a mission every so often while others just plain hate it. I don't run them for isk, I just enjoy it once in a while. Some other ways to make decent isk are incursions, scamming and wormholes, but Eve is a game, so do what you find fun. |
Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
148
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Posted - 2011.12.28 20:25:00 -
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in this post I smear my copy/pasted and parroted opinion in your face, just like everyone else just did.
Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI.
Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1103
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Posted - 2011.12.28 20:28:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:in this post I smear my copy/pasted and parroted opinion in your face, just like everyone else just did.
Special snowflake syndrome.. ???
In that case
Hata Kap Mahiral Suuhame Dhak Rallien Grol-ìht
Gkarheiuo outgpatew+í-ì osdtH89ae. |
Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works
PURgE Alliance
5
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Posted - 2011.12.28 21:11:00 -
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Find yourself a nice DED 1/10 (public site) somewhere moderately quiet.
The site will repopulate once an hour. You can get small C-type deadspace and/or faction mods and make upwards of 100mil per day if you're diligent at it. There are a few faction drops that are worth several hundred mil, albeit rare.
In between, salvage up the wrecks you made, rat the belts, run some missions nearby. |
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1182
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Posted - 2011.12.28 21:35:00 -
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Carribean Queen wrote:Find yourself a nice DED 1/10 (public site) somewhere moderately quiet.
The site will repopulate once an hour. You can get small C-type deadspace and/or faction mods and make upwards of 100mil per day if you're diligent at it. There are a few faction drops that are worth several hundred mil, albeit rare.
In between, salvage up the wrecks you made, rat the belts, run some missions nearby.
It's more around 250-400m if your serious about it
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
218
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Posted - 2011.12.28 22:33:00 -
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1-Up Mushroom wrote:Gogela wrote:
To anyone. Video games are just games.
Well of course they are, but there's still a human on the other side of the screen. Now scamming a NPC is different, but who scams NPC's
There are numbers waiting to become statistics on the other side of the screen... nothing more. 
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Shizuken
Venerated Stars
6
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Posted - 2011.12.28 22:45:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:Can make massive isk but if you take it too serious it has a habit of turning into Spreadsheets Online.
This is hella funny. I too have made the jump from EVE to Spreadsheets Online 
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Rhastafan
Cadre Assault Force
Initiative Mercenaries
8
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Posted - 2011.12.28 23:13:00 -
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sYnc Vir wrote:Sadly FW Mission are worth about 300M per hour and can be done solo in a SB for the right faction "COUGH CALDARI COUGH"
I don't find it sad And Caldari isn't the only faction that can do it
If you are smart about what LP items you use to convert LP to ISK AND don't convert a lot (cause the really high ratio items don't support a lot of volume) AND play smart (i.e. don't lose ships) it's worth 320mil/hour, but I think 200mil/hour is a more realistic figure for someone who is new (and that's L4 missions, I think it is about 1/3 for each level below 4 - but it is pretty quick to get standing for L4 missions and also pretty quick to get skills for a SB fit that can do the job).
If you spend half a day making 2 mission runs (with about 9 missions per run) converting to ISK and selling you can have a billion right there (though it will take a day or three to sell the stuff).
Forget about using PLEX to get ISK, you should be using ISK to get PLEX; Not only can you use them to pay your account but you can also use them as a vehicle to make ISK by trading them on the market. |
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
72
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Posted - 2011.12.28 23:15:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Ramacliv wrote:Unlike the others once you max out skills for an Orca and foreman mindlink using an alt to run the hulk you can make decent isk however it takes some SP to get to that point. That said in my opinion the real isk for those with low SP lies in being able to solo level 4 missions then come back and salvage/loot everything. You then sell or reprocess and sell everything. You don't need a massive amount of SP to do level 4 missions and getting to that point means shortly you can be able to do incursions which is where the real isk is made. Now all of this assumes you actually want to be active, keep your toon's name with a good rep (scamming ruins this) and play the game. A lot of the other things mentioned are also good low SP isk including ninja salvaging (almost no outflow (ammo costs) and a lot of the rewards in selling salvage and loot however they have a downside in that noone likes a ninja. Oh herro wall-o-text.. NEEDS MOAR [ENTER] KEY!
No it doesn't, get an Education or read a book. Its 7 lines ffs.
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sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
72
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Posted - 2011.12.28 23:19:00 -
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Rhastafan wrote:sYnc Vir wrote:Sadly FW Mission are worth about 300M per hour and can be done solo in a SB for the right faction "COUGH CALDARI COUGH" I don't find it sad And Caldari isn't the only faction that can do it If you are smart about what LP items you use to convert LP to ISK AND don't convert a lot (cause the really high ratio items don't support a lot of volume) AND play smart (i.e. don't lose ships) it's worth 320mil/hour, but I think 200mil/hour is a more realistic figure for someone who is new (and that's L4 missions, I think it is about 1/3 for each level below 4 - but it is pretty quick to get standing for L4 missions and also pretty quick to get skills for a SB fit that can do the job). If you spend half a day making 2 mission runs (with about 9 missions per run) converting to ISK and selling you can have a billion right there (though it will take a day or three to sell the stuff). Forget about using PLEX to get ISK, you should be using ISK to get PLEX; Not only can you use them to pay your account but you can also use them as a vehicle to make ISK by trading them on the market.
When the Customs office first came out, the ISK per LP went insane. I have more than a few Corp mates that began joyful isk swimming. |
Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
150
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Posted - 2011.12.28 23:24:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:in this post I smear my copy/pasted and parroted opinion in your face, just like everyone else just did. Special snowflake syndrome.. ??? In that case Hata Kap Mahiral Suuhame Dhak Rallien Grol-ìht Gkarheiuo outgpatew+í-ì osdtH89ae.
No need to get all butthurt bra.
Did I copy paste that right?
Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI.
Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Flakey Foont
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2011.12.28 23:36:00 -
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To the OP. The best way to make isk is the way YOU make the most isk. Try stuff like missions, trading etc, and you will find what you are best at. |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2011.12.28 23:41:00 -
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Guthris wrote:The best way to make ISK is to get a job IRL, spend a couple hours making money. Use that to buy GTC's and convert that to ISK.
You'll make a couple dozen times the money you can, that you'd be spending the same amount of time dedicated to grinding missions
I was waiting for some one else to post this first. This is the ONLY way I make ISK. My game time is limited and I want the shiny stuff. I can work 1/2 hour of OT to buy 1 GTC I can trade for 800 Million ISK. 2 of these a month keeps me going. And the people who buy my GTC's are happy they can play without spending real money... |
Selinate
189
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Posted - 2011.12.29 00:03:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Selinate wrote:Why can't people be more thorough when they just say "Scamming is the best way to make isk"? Not all scamming is created equal. Spamming a one trit for 2 billion isk will actually turn out to be isk inefficient compared to level 4 missions. Thats why I or many others have never not gotten enough ISK for PLEX scamming during an Hours for PLEX re-activation right? If scamming fails- Suicide Gank a Tengu/Loki/Proteus with the new T3 Battlecruisers.
You didn't even read my post, which is obvious from your response, so please, don't even try to make a response. It just makes you look stupid. |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
54
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Posted - 2011.12.29 00:19:00 -
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At the end of the day OP the BEST way to make isk is the way you enjoy most, otherwise you'll lose interest and end up making nothing.
Enjoy the game, try out diffent things, it's the quality of your recreation time that matters really not the quantity of virtual $ in your pocket.
Not saying don't optimize and make the most of your potential but at the end of the day this is your fun time, so have fun and don't worry most likely the isk will come rolling in whatever you decide to do.
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Shawnm339
Galactic Shipyards Inc
NEM3SIS.
21
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Posted - 2011.12.29 09:14:00 -
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Pinaculus wrote:Kurama Bingyi wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Scamming is, by far, the best way to make isk. Mining is probably the worst way to make money and is so boring you'll quit the game in frustration before you make enough to recoup your investment in exhumers, mods and skillbooks. To be honest, Harlot's telling the truth. If you go to Amarr, there's a character named "Spaceship Barbie" (or something like that) who's racked up over a dozen-billion (I think those are the numbers) ISK just from doing the Tritanium (I think that's what it's called) scam - basically selling a single ore for ludicrous amounts of ISK, saying that they were buying Trit and were willing to pay that amount of money. Also, Harlot's in GoonWaffe, which makes its living off of scamming. So you're getting this from an expert in the field. There's a couple of things that I just can't understand about this. Who doesn't know that the 1-trit contract is a scam? It's so obvious! And Spaceship Barbie is e-famous for scamming, so how does anybody give her money? I guess I just give people too much credit. Maybe there really is a sucker born every minute.
I have spoke to the guy he's actually a stockbroker if I remember rightly or some kind of financial guy......what you've just said there is precisely why SB can make isk which he/she then uses for pew pew....greed sometimes overcomes common sense and that's exactly what is needed for the scheme to work.....like any other such scheme or even to chatting up woman in a bar you might get 99 slaps but you only need 1 to say yes to make your night end happily
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Opertone
Signal 7
65
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Posted - 2011.12.29 10:31:00 -
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steady income - pop low sec rats until you have 15 mill (can be done in tech 1 frigate)
do lvl 3 missions repeatedly (possibly courier) to get +3 implants, repeat until you have 50 million
get drake, do easy lvl 4 missions, get Raven when you have 120 million.
When you have Raven, continue farming LPs and work towards 200 mill goal.
Join a null sec alliance and start ratting from day one, keep doing anomalies. Goal - bounty, salvaging, profit, faction, officer, minerals. Hit 1 000 mill (one billion).
Get a carrier, assign fighters, continue making fast ISK.
When you have 2-5 billion go hisec industry or WH colonization. |
Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
6
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Posted - 2011.12.29 10:33:00 -
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I've made most of my ISK through meta 6+ item flipping. It's very easy, can be done 100% remotely through contracts, and requires almost no time investment. I have my niche market that I specialize in, and run everything through an alt corp.
Corp has a director with a masters degree in finance. He makes all of our heavy ISK through market manipulation and general numberfaggotry.
Those who cannot keep up will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all. |
Vatruha
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.29 12:38:00 -
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A mix of scams, good luck and generally a mix of all of the above made me a lot of isk.
Turning the ISK in to bought GTC's and training sitter alts, then tengu characters made me even more. Never once used my debit card for training them or selling them on.
Downside to all of this, I now have more isk than I know what to do with (over 100bn liquid, plus more in assets and toons). Along with three or four nice characters I like. Still all sounds good so far right? I've owned and sold a super, was nice to try it.
Now I'm at the point where I'm not sure what to do as I don't need to make money. I find it hard flying for faceless corps that demand you fleet up but offer nothing in return.
So in short, worry less about making the ISK. So long as you have enough for the next ship it's all good. It will also give you something to constantly aim for while trying out the next new aspect. |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2011.12.29 14:08:00 -
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Admiral Pelleon wrote: He makes all of our heavy ISK through market manipulation and general numberfaggotry.
Now number faggotry sounds interesting. Does that mean he sticks 3 fingers in some ones butt and pulls out a billion ISK?
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Vito Tattaglia
New Paradigm Inc.
Mass Consortium Alliance
12
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Posted - 2011.12.29 23:45:00 -
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Okay, well I think I will give up mining, as I've been ganked twice in the past two days. Unfortunately, I need some advice on how to get enough money to buy a Drake for level 3 and 4 missions. I have access to level 2 security missions with Minedrill, but the best ship I have is a Caracal and I only have 30 million left, when a good Drake fitting will cost about 50. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1186
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Posted - 2011.12.30 01:44:00 -
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Vito Tattaglia wrote:Okay, well I think I will give up mining, as I've been ganked twice in the past two days. Unfortunately, I need some advice on how to get enough money to buy a Drake for level 3 and 4 missions. I have access to level 2 security missions with Minedrill, but the best ship I have is a Caracal and I only have 30 million left, when a good Drake fitting will cost about 50.
So you got five pages of responses and what you took away from them was to run level 2 missions?
:cripes:
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Vito Tattaglia
New Paradigm Inc.
Mass Consortium Alliance
12
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Posted - 2011.12.30 02:05:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Vito Tattaglia wrote:Okay, well I think I will give up mining, as I've been ganked twice in the past two days. Unfortunately, I need some advice on how to get enough money to buy a Drake for level 3 and 4 missions. I have access to level 2 security missions with Minedrill, but the best ship I have is a Caracal and I only have 30 million left, when a good Drake fitting will cost about 50. So you got five pages of responses and what you took away from them was to run level 2 missions? :cripes:
Not just that obviously, I've taken the other options into consideration, but running missions is the only one that is easily available to me right now. |
Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
10
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Posted - 2011.12.30 02:06:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:Admiral Pelleon wrote: He makes all of our heavy ISK through market manipulation and general numberfaggotry. Now number faggotry sounds interesting. Does that mean he sticks 3 fingers in some ones butt and pulls out a billion ISK?
I'm not aware of the details, but I've heard it's illegal in many countries.
Those who cannot keep up will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all. |
Jorn Isu
Imperial Chamber of Commerce
0
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Posted - 2011.12.30 03:10:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:It isn't about money. It's about making Lady Harlot hate you...ummm...Freudian slip there...
If you look at this as a shopping center with the only hold up being no credit card, like most of these scam scam scammers do, then you'll never have enough since enough will never be enough. You make a billion, and all you can see is that "1" and the itch hits you about turning it into a "2". Once that "2" is there...where's my "3"? On and on it goes till it rolls over to the next denominator.
Even if you had billions to buy a buncha crap, most of it you couldn't use anyway wivvout that training...training...training...which leads to the OTHER motivation - capability. Being able to do some things very well and just not bothering to do them because they're beneath you is far more rewarding than making endless ISK in a race to nowhere special.
You see, true freedom lies in your ability to just do NOTHING, and gloat about it. The catch is, if you can't do anything then doing nothing isn't very special. If you can do EVERYTHING, and do it well, then not doing anything becomes the quintessence of pleasure. That's when you're in the leisure class.
Don't be a squirrel and constantly rabbit for money (pardon the mixed metaphor). Be a lion and just hang out surveying your surroundings with untouchable arrogance. You'll be glad you did!
Or you could make 50 bn and buy a 120m SP character. |
Malsia Vaille
The Black Legionnares
Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2011.12.30 05:16:00 -
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New player to new player...
What I found is the games tutorial process, among other things, kinda makes you spread your skills out too far. What I did after I realized this, was focus purely on combat missions to start, as its a solid form of income. I farmed level 3's (Which is easily attainable with Connections trained to 3 or 4), and made easily 60-70m every couple hours with loot and salvage. Additionally, it's really quite easy to train up for a solid battle cruiser to do this.
After you get comfortable doing combat missions, and can make ISK when needed, then train for whatever you want (I.E. Mining, Etc.)
This is just my experience so far anyways. |
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