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Vantras
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.27 21:35:00 -
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Number one sign that EVE has grown to much:
-There are now people in our community that feel compelled to post "Compare XXXX game to WOW" on our forums.
Probably the single most annoying thread topic in MMO forum whoring today.
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Khorian
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.27 21:39:00 -
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the Hype, it's the Hype. It's like a snowball rolling down a hill. WoW get so much attention it draws in new subscritptions like flys to the light.
I mean, just a few days ago I read an article on a Games MAg website about the Grass in computergames. They featured WoW on last place, even tho WoW has probably the ugliest grass in any MMORPG currently in existance, but they even commented: Well this is WoWs grass, so it needs to be mentioned. I stopped reading that mag 7 years ago, and this article reminded my why.... but you see what i'm getting at.
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Forum Alt
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.04.27 23:00:00 -
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Edited by: Forum Alt on 27/04/2007 22:57:09
Originally by: Sheriff Jones ...lots of things in many replies...
I read this entire thread and have to say I agree completely with everything Sheriff Jones said. Good replies! Glad to see there are people like this in Eve that have good sense
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Skunrah
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2007.04.27 23:04:00 -
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1. Learning curve in wow is about 1000% easier. 2. Everything in Eve takes forever to someone who plays FPS' all day. (I would be willing to bet most eve potentials leave the game within 24 hours of installing it) 3. This as mentioned before, the huge brand power of Blizzard. Skunrah |
Abye
SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.27 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Volar Kang In WOW you can play for a few hours and get to level 10. Once there you can go to battlegrounds and most of the time get fair PVP, (meaning 10 on 10 with others in the same level range as you). You cant get that in EVE.
Lvl 10-19 Battlegrounds used to be the most unfair pvp ever. A lvl char twinked to the gills could easily kill the whole enemy team without breaking a sweat. ___
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Dorah Hawkwing
Chosen Path FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.27 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Amphetaminer In wow you have no death penalty In wow you cannot get pked everywhere In wow scamming is not something that is accepted In wow they try to make a real effort against bots/macro's WoW has a lvl cap. In wow you dont have to give up your life to be able to enjoy yourself in the game.
These are things most mainstream people want.
As you can see alot of these contradict with Eve.. Also EVE is hard to get into when you start.
did you check out today's dev blog.. concerning macros?
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Raltcam
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Posted - 2007.04.28 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Volar Kang In WOW you can play for a few hours and get to level 10. Once there you can go to battlegrounds and most of the time get fair PVP, (meaning 10 on 10 with others in the same level range as you). You cant get that in EVE.
Low lvl battleground = twink, who can take 1v5 without a probleme. In low lvl battleground you are one shooted by everything or you are a twink too.
At high lvl, same thing, player with stuff from "The new super boss" pwn you in 0.2 sec.
cap lvl means nothing in wow, u need months and months of farming to do something.
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The'Grim'Reaper
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Posted - 2007.04.28 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 27/04/2007 11:55:47 Well...my fav subject again
First off, don't worry, i'm not a 13 year old WoW fanboi, actually i'm a middleaged white, single EVE lover as the rest of you perverts
What brings people into WoW is kinda layered cake:
1: Warcraft. It has a HUGE fanbase compared to EVE's...err...none. There is no prequal to EVE universe. If this was X-Wing Online, then it would have. 2: Best MMO around, in fantasy that is. It simply is one of the best, largest, working and versitile fantasy rpg out there. 3: The fanbase for Warcraft was big, this brings a starting number of subs big, which brings more customers. Not to mention that blizzard is known for good service, good games and all around good stuff. Warcraft, starcraft, diablo series...all hits. WoW is no different in peoples eyes.
EVE is in no way an underdog, as this is one world, and in no need for additional servers. It's just growing slower and the clientbase a bit more, not adult(in NO way), but "non-old fashioned"
Oh and, EVE has better things then WoW, WoW has better things then EVE, it all balances out quite nicely if you play both with "vigor".
When i'm bored with EVE, i play WoW, when i bore of WoW, i go to EVE and so forth.
Until tabula rasa comes...
Ive played the previous (real imho) warcraft games etc, i do enjoy MMO's/RPG's etc, but WoW does nto appeal to me, it just screams of cartoon/kids game, id rather go play NWN2, thats more my taste, i did enjoy the saga of ryzom before they A) died off and B) made the game stupidly harder to lvl up.
I also used to play Knight Online US, a lot of these i left simply because of macro/lvl up abusers, it felt like the game was patched to make it harder for them to lvl up and near impossible for some at specific levels without cheating, and in the case of KO, way too many Duped items kicking around.
So i cant say its just the fanbase of games that attract people, i love the warcraft3/other games, i just dispise WoW, so in the end, who knows, probably just more word of mouth, or "i play coz my mate plays".
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Selena 001
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Posted - 2007.04.28 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Raltcam Low lvl battleground = twink, who can take 1v5 without a probleme. In low lvl battleground you are one shooted by everything or you are a twink too.
At high lvl, same thing, player with stuff from "The new super boss" pwn you in 0.2 sec.
cap lvl means nothing in wow, u need months and months of farming to do something.
You either havn't played WoW and hence your opinion has no value, or if you have, you've played it badly. Thats right, you played the easiest game out there BADLY.
1. You over-exaggerate far to much. Twinks are good for small groups (1v1 perhaps 2v1), but nothing more. You get ganged up on by people who understand how to use their class correctly, and you die.
2. You dont need to farm for months to be able to do anything. Sure, using crappy equipment may make the game harder, but hey... everyone is always complaing about how easy the damned thing is.
WoW is popular because it has no strings attached. You do what you want, when you want to, and dont have to worry about manditory 5 hours a day to keep pace, or the fear of logging out 1 night with your stuff only to find that the next morning everything you have worked for has been destroyed while you were asleep.
I enjoy playing both EVE and WoW because they have different appeals. I think you'll find more than a few people that play EVE regularly and have active WoW accounts for the same reasons... ___________
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Serge Tahlon
Gallente Templars of Space CORE.
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Posted - 2007.04.28 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: Serge Tahlon on 28/04/2007 11:38:41 i never got into the warcraft games, i m not particularly interested in the lore and also eve was my first mmo. i played for a year and tried wow. played that for 2 years now i m back.
i think what attracked me to wow was the pvp. that was pre battle grounds and honor grind. another point was the pve raid instances. i dont know but there is something really satisfying about defeating content as a group. in eve that was, back then, non exsistant. i think it is pretty much still non existant.
the only thing in eve that came close was large fleet battles.. 30+ people working together is an awesome feat.
eves advantage is its depth and complexity in terms of production and markets, politics and diplomacy. sadly it is also what makes it insanely boring at times.
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Xan Garrett
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Posted - 2007.04.28 11:36:00 -
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I wasn't a Warcraft fanboy at all, in fact I had Warcraft III but never got round to finishing it so I had no vested interest in the lore/setting of WoW. What drew me to it were the almost unanimously great reviews and the fact that it was the first MMO I experienced. So in effect, the fact that the reviews were saying how great it was, how it took all the best things from all the best MMOs and put it together in a well-presented package meant that it was the ideal entry point to the genre for me. When trying to overcome/justify the subscription issue, why not go for the big hitter first off and see what the supposed best on the market had to offer.
Couple that with a very satisfying initial 'hook' that made it fun and quickly addictive and I have been a WoW player since last December, so not very long compared to most. Haven't played for 3 weeks or more though 'cos I hit the 70 level cap and got bored very quickly. Hence why I started trying the others and found EVE
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Evandra
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:03:00 -
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1st..they made the start in wow easy, fun and the totally opposite of a grindfest and slowy let it get more of grind to the endgame so that ppl got used to the horrible grind and even love it.
2nd..they add super shiny 0wner items to the game everyone sarts screaming when someone got them...take those items away (->make em useless)...add new extreme super shiny items to the game so people fall into the same "i want i want" again and forgot that they got toally ripped off their time spent :P they'll repeat that as long players don't get it.
conlusion..in eve i can lose my ship sure but noone ever will get my skillpoints..they'll be mine as long as i play so the core of my playtime is alway there. in wow i lost more (yeah i fell for wow once :P) than i can ever lose in eve when they made all items obsolete with the burning crusade after the game was 2 years old.
as long ppl don't feel betrayed when this happens again and again in wow they'll have the massive numbers there cuz everyone loves super shiny items he can pose around with :P
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 28/04/2007 12:07:17 Bottom line? More people feel that relaxing their brain is more entertaining than taxing it.
It is true for almost every form of entertainment.
Nothing wrong with that at all, people are just different. Even though WoW doesn't "push my buttons" there is no denying that it is a superb product, and hits its target market for wrecking damage. It is the TV of computer entertainment.
On a side note, WoW has done a lot of good for MMOGs in general, expanding a market which was in itself pretty much a niche. I'm glad WoW exists (and I am equally happy that I don't play it )
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Jacques Archambault
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:19:00 -
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Thread cleaned. Please keep your replies polite and civil. Its okay to disagree with someone, but please be constructive about it. Also, even if WoW is competitor, its not appropriate to bash the game or the company behind it.
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Stakhanov
Shih Yang Tong
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Skunrah 2. Everything in Eve takes forever to someone who plays FPS' all day. (I would be willing to bet most eve potentials leave the game within 24 hours of installing it)
Hey , I was mainly a FPS player before being subjugated by Eve while it's true that it teaches patience , it's closer to the FPS feel than most RPGs. The games I enjoy the most revolve around sneaking up on people , hunting them down and savaging them at melee range.
If you want to play Eve like a FPS , get pirating
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Cosy
Porandor
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Posted - 2007.04.28 18:43:00 -
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i don't moved on wow but after T20 crap & buged plex i open a wow account *snip* - not a appropriate link - hutch hutch is a pet :P |
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