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Zack Aphnos
Panzer Tactics
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Posted - 2017.02.26 11:23:33 -
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Hi, I'm very new to EVE, started 2 days ago if it helps. I am currently doing my Industry Agent Missions step 10. It is asking me to create a Tormentor which requires a little amount of Zydrine. The info on Zydrine says that it can only be mined in 0.4 security status or lower (Amarr Empire). However, I have no experience at all in mining in lowsec space, and I need help. If you can provide any links, answers or tips on mining in lowsec space, I'd really appreciate it. I am also and Alpha Clone so I might not have access to all the skills and ships. |
Elena Thiesant
The Scope Gallente Federation
1776
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Posted - 2017.02.26 11:32:13 -
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Don't mine it.
You need a tiny amount of Zydrine, buy it from the market. (right click the BP -> show info. Click the (i) to the right of the Zydrine entry and then click the "View market details" button at the bottom, and buy just the amount you need.) Part of the industry career is learning to deal with the market, buying and selling. Take this as the first lesson. |
Zack Aphnos
Panzer Tactics
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Posted - 2017.02.26 11:49:42 -
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I see. Thank you. Is it right to assume that I am not fit for mining in lowsec space yet? |
Elena Thiesant
The Scope Gallente Federation
1776
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Posted - 2017.02.26 11:57:05 -
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You'll probably lose your ship. Not because of skills, but because you don't know what to watch for (everything) and you'll probably hit the wrong keys and die (I did).
Finish the career agents, maybe the SoE arc, then, with some ISK in the bank, take cheap ships to lowsec (or nullsec) and lose them. Just not this early while you're still learning what key is warp, what key is stop and what that weird symbol on the overview is. |
Zack Aphnos
Panzer Tactics
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Posted - 2017.02.26 12:07:31 -
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Okay, thank you for the help.
EDIT: One more thing, how do I complete the SoE arc? I am currently just doing missions from the Agents, I can't find the tutorial tab anymore that usually shows Aura Tips etc.? |
Elena Thiesant
The Scope Gallente Federation
1776
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Posted - 2017.02.26 12:14:49 -
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For the Sisters of Eve Arc, go to the system Arnon, dock at the Sisters of Eve station there, and speak to the epic arc agent Sister Alitura |
Zack Aphnos
Panzer Tactics
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Posted - 2017.02.26 12:17:54 -
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Okay, thank you very much for the help. |
Akane Togenada
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
65
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Posted - 2017.02.26 13:03:14 -
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I believe you will get a Tormentor for free from one of the other career agents. I'd advice using that one to complete this mission instantly. |
Do Little
Virgin Plc Evictus.
831
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Posted - 2017.02.26 13:31:06 -
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The Tormentor (or other racial logistics frigate) is given as a reward for completing the second mission for the exploration agent.
No need to build the ship unless you want to.
You seem to be a Gallente character running Amarr career missions. Gallente agent would be asking for a Navitas. If you're an Alpha, you won't be able to fly the ships you get from the Amarr agents. |
Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
33
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Posted - 2017.02.26 15:34:34 -
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Zack Aphnos wrote:Hi, I'm very new to EVE, started 2 days ago if it helps. I am currently doing my Industry Agent Missions step 10. It is asking me to create a Tormentor which requires a little amount of Zydrine. The info on Zydrine says that it can only be mined in 0.4 security status or lower (Amarr Empire). However, I have no experience at all in mining in lowsec space, and I need help. If you can provide any links, answers or tips on mining in lowsec space, I'd really appreciate it. I am also and Alpha Clone so I might not have access to all the skills and ships. Low-sec is relatively safe if you stick near the gates until you sort things out - things to look for: .4 security Few people Many belts (helps for when you get attacked, just jump to another belt and keep digging) Things optional but beneficial: One or more neutral or friendly citadels you can jump to as a safe point More than two gates out (3-4 is good) Wormhole (if you can scan; only should be used in a 'I need to be anywhere but here' situation)
You'll also want to have a fast ship so you can warp to reference points like planets and fly in a straight line a ways (as a safe spot from players, as they won't be able to find you if you're not near a planet) |
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
1515
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Posted - 2017.02.26 16:12:09 -
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Zack Aphnos wrote:I see. Thank you. Is it right to assume that I am not fit for mining in lowsec space yet?
Oh, no. You can mine in LS just fine. Use your corvette and only the free mining lasers. You can remove the mining lasers, repackage the corvette, and unpack and stick the mining laser that you removed on it. Then jump in LS. You might get blown up a few times, but it will cost you nothing, and getting blown up will be good for you. And you will hopefully learn skills that will be useful when you do fly more expensive ships later. Learning to use d-scan, pre-aligning, and safespots are good lessons to learn today.
Don't fly the venture or any other not-free ship in ls until your income is strong enough that you won't be impacted by the loss of the ship.
That's the secret of Eve. A poorly kept secret that we tell everyone. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. And you can always afford to lose a corvett.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1904
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Posted - 2017.02.26 17:43:15 -
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Eve is a deep game. I used to always want to source all of my own mats in "crafting" in other games. In Eve manufacturing is much more like an industrial process than crafting. You can run around and gather all of your own mats but it is not efficient.
You will eventually wind up finding your niche in this game. You will at that point stick mostly to the things that you enjoy doing and leaving other activities to other players.
In this example specifically you are probably better off just mining what is available to you now and selling excess ore / minerals that you have to buy what you don't. Or even just buying the end product that you need and figuring how to make the isk to "afford" it as a separate consideration.
In the end this is a game you should probably focus on what is more fun.
Also early on learning is probably the most valuable thing that you can do with your in game time so you may want to take learning experience into consideration from the perspective of them brining valuable experience. |
mkint
1504
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Posted - 2017.02.26 18:24:39 -
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The lesson in that mission is that you'll often have to buy materials you need in order to build.
As far as mining in lowsec, most of the time don't bother. It adds serious complications for minimal additional rewards.
As far as doing all the new player stuff, do the full set of career agents. They are all tutorials and contain valuable information. It is a good idea to do the SOE arc even if you don't want a combat career since it will reinforce the basics of: inter-system travel, using the market to upgrade your stuff, working out what makes a usable loadout, and getting help when you run into a wall.
Maxim 6. If violence wasnGÇÖt your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
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Sara Starbuck
Adamantine Creations
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Posted - 2017.02.26 20:10:15 -
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mkint wrote:As far as mining in lowsec, most of the time don't bother. It adds serious complications for minimal additional rewards.
Seconded, lowsec mining is major hassle with safety and hauling issues for minimal gains. |
Lucian Skord
Aetherium.
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Posted - 2017.02.26 21:23:47 -
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i hear mining in amamake is really good this time of year |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
59556
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Posted - 2017.02.27 07:56:09 -
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Hello and welcome to Eve,
Akane Togenada & mkint both gave very good advice, following their suggestions will definitely help you quickly get familiar with the game.
Good luck and may you have a long and rewarding career here in Eve.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
59556
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Posted - 2017.02.27 08:15:09 -
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Do Little wrote:The Tormentor (or other racial logistics frigate) is given as a reward for completing the second mission for the exploration agent.
No need to build the ship unless you want to.
You seem to be a Gallente character running Amarr career missions. Gallente agent would be asking for a Navitas. If you're an Alpha, you won't be able to fly the ships you get from the Amarr agents. Do Little is 100% correct.
As a Gallente Alpha Clone, you can only pilot Gallente ships. Not exactly sure how you ended up running missions for Amarr Career Agents. The best explanation I can think of is you might have first taken a little sight seeing tour and was in Amarr space when you contacted the Career Agents.
I suggest you travel back to Gallente space and complete all of the missions for Gallente Career Agents.
Career Agent Locations
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Zack Aphnos
Panzer Tactics
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Posted - 2017.02.27 13:27:37 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Do Little wrote:The Tormentor (or other racial logistics frigate) is given as a reward for completing the second mission for the exploration agent.
No need to build the ship unless you want to.
You seem to be a Gallente character running Amarr career missions. Gallente agent would be asking for a Navitas. If you're an Alpha, you won't be able to fly the ships you get from the Amarr agents. Do Little is 100% correct. As a Gallente Alpha Clone, you can only pilot Gallente ships. Not exactly sure how you ended up running missions for Amarr Career Agents. The best explanation I can think of is you might have first taken a little sight seeing tour and was in Amarr space when you contacted the Career Agents. I suggest you travel back to Gallente space and complete all of the missions for Gallente Career Agents. Career Agent LocationsDMC
Hello. I was recruited by an Amarr corporation in which the leader initially seemed to be nice. However, I'm finding that he is rather rude in manners and rather crude in leading the team. He has given me free ships (two Ventures) to mine and he is also asking me to attend training sessions, though. His lessons are not the best (learning by myself seems to be more helpful) and he would often throw sarcastic remarks because of asking simple questions (which is, to me, unfamiliar since I'm still learning the basics). He initially asked me to jump to Yehnifi VI (or was it IV) and set it my home station. I was rather reluctant as first as this was very suspicious, but I did it anyway. I'm now considering quitting the corporation, but as a new player, I'm rather afraid of the chances that he might be able to hunt me down (although unrealistic since I do not own anything valuable). So is it safe to leave the corporation? I believe that he might be using new players for whatever reasons.
Also, if I jump to Gallente, will I be hunt down since I am now in an Amarr corporation and these two factions are different? I also have various items in the stations (Yehnifi and Conoban] which are probably worth some value to new players. I have did a bit of researching and it seems that the manual way is to transport them one by one (which will take me ages) or by using a special service? I'm rather intrigued in using the service; I'm not sure, however, if my ISK is enough to use this service (nearly 4m). Or is it better to just leave the items be there? Another thing is, I don't know how to use the service at all....
I'm very thankful for all the supportive responses and helpful tips from the other forumers as well. Thank you so much, once again. |
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
1186
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Posted - 2017.02.27 13:36:23 -
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Zack Aphnos wrote:Hello. I was recruited by an Amarr corporation in which the leader initially seemed to be nice. However, I'm finding that he is rather rude in manners and rather crude in leading the team. However, he has given me free ships (two Ventures) to mine and he is also asking me to attend training sessions. He initially asked me to jump to Yehnifi VI (or was it IV) and set it my home station. I was rather reluctant as first as this is very suspicious, but I did it anyway. I'm now considering quitting the corporation, but as a new player, I'm rather afraid of the chances that he might be able to hunt me down (although unrealistic since I do not own anything valuable). So is it safe to leave the corporation? I believe that he might be using new players for whatever reasons. Unfortunately there are many corps in EvE that are like this, they act friendly and helpful at first and then as you note turn to something entirely different. Do not despair there are many more corp out there that are truly helpful and friendly to those who chooser to join them.
Retribution in EvE for leaving a corp is always a possibility and how much stuff you have is not a factor. However this is a game and enjoying your time in it is more important than anything else, if you do not like the corp you are in leave and find another group of like minded players you enjoy spending your time with. |
Zack Aphnos
Panzer Tactics
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Posted - 2017.02.27 13:41:59 -
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Donnachadh wrote:Zack Aphnos wrote:Hello. I was recruited by an Amarr corporation in which the leader initially seemed to be nice. However, I'm finding that he is rather rude in manners and rather crude in leading the team. However, he has given me free ships (two Ventures) to mine and he is also asking me to attend training sessions. He initially asked me to jump to Yehnifi VI (or was it IV) and set it my home station. I was rather reluctant as first as this is very suspicious, but I did it anyway. I'm now considering quitting the corporation, but as a new player, I'm rather afraid of the chances that he might be able to hunt me down (although unrealistic since I do not own anything valuable). So is it safe to leave the corporation? I believe that he might be using new players for whatever reasons. Unfortunately there are many corps in EvE that are like this, they act friendly and helpful at first and then as you note turn to something entirely different. Do not despair there are many more corp out there that are truly helpful and friendly to those who chooser to join them. Retribution in EvE for leaving a corp is always a possibility and how much stuff you have is not a factor. However this is a game and enjoying your time in it is more important than anything else, if you do not like the corp you are in leave and find another group of like minded players you enjoy spending your time with.
Okay, then I am leaving the corp. Like what kind of retribution, though?
UPDATE: I was shot down by a Federation Navy First Sergeant while auto-piloting to Gallente... Why? |
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Do Little
Virgin Plc Evictus.
835
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Posted - 2017.02.27 14:11:47 -
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Federation Navy will shoot at you if your standing is below -5. It's virtually impossible for your personal standing to be that low in the time you have been playing the game. Possibly derived standing from the corporation you joined.
In lore, Gallente are at war with Caldari who are friends with Amarr. This is rarely an issue unless you join faction warfare. Gallente characters do business in Jita all the time.
There are good player corporations and not so good choices. I recommend that you complete the career missions for Gallente in Clellinon. There will likely be dozens of corporate advertisements in system and you can talk to people and see if there is a fit with your personality, time zone and the play style you want to try first. Make sure you actually talk using TeamSpeak, Mumble, etc... only so much you can learn using text chat.
An established new player organization with excellent reputation is http://www.eveuniversity.org/ I believe they are currently headquartered in Placid - a few jumps from Clellinon. |
Zack Aphnos
Panzer Tactics
4
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Posted - 2017.02.27 14:23:27 -
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Thank you for the response again Do Little. I am now at Clellinon doing my agent career missions already
I decided to trash my items since I think they're worth little. |
Kathern Aurilen
169
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Posted - 2017.02.27 20:09:41 -
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Elena Thiesant wrote:You'll probably lose your ship. Not because of skills, but because you don't know what to watch for (everything) and you'll probably hit the wrong keys and die (I did).
Finish the career agents, maybe the SoE arc, then, with some ISK in the bank, take cheap ships to lowsec (or nullsec) and lose them. Just not this early while you're still learning what key is warp, what key is stop and what that weird symbol on the overview is. lol Speaking of the warp key, I just figured out the warp key after almost a year of playing.
I just been hovering over the right click menu till needing to warp out.
No cuts, no butts, no coconuts!
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mkint
1509
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Posted - 2017.02.28 02:29:14 -
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Zack Aphnos wrote:Thank you for the response again Do Little. I am now at Clellinon doing my agent career missions already I decided to trash my items since I think they're worth little. It's the weird paradox of EVE. Finding a corp is one of the most important things you can do to enjoy the game, especially early on. However, finding a corp that is a good fit is one of the hardest things to do, and appears to be mostly a matter of luck. The big "newbie friendly" well known ones make me nervous, as it seems too easy to fall through the cracks and not really make the personal connections to make the game fun, however their reputations don't come from nowhere, so *shrug*. It seems to me that the best way to audition a corp is to fly with them before you join them. Ask lots of questions, what everyone's working towards, what they want to do, what they do when they log in. Also don't forget to look them up on killboards to get a sense of their activity and experience.
I guess a little off topic from the OP, but yeah, you definitely shouldn't join a corp before doing all the tutorials/career agents, and maybe not even before finishing the epic arc.
Maxim 6. If violence wasnGÇÖt your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
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Zack Aphnos
The Scope Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2017.02.28 07:01:40 -
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Yeah, I was ignorant and still am to this game. I'm still trying to finish my career agents. Yeah it's okay even if it is off-topic, I appreciate all kinds of little bits of information to help me get a better grip of this game.
Thank you all for the answers :-) |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
59588
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Posted - 2017.02.28 10:34:33 -
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OK, seems you're back on track now which is a good thing. Definitely take your time in joining a player corp. As others have said, fly with them for a bit, research them and ask questions.
Just remember that in this game, Information is King and Conversation is it's Queen. Make sure to check info on everything (right click and select show info).
As for your assets in other stations, don't worry about moving or carrying them with you. They are perfectly safe in station and always available for use when needed. As your time in-game increases you'll acquire lot's of items, especially if you do exploration or run missions. It's ok to leave the items in various stations for future use. They can be easily found in your assets inventory window (safe icon in Neocom bar - left side of screen).
Definitely complete all of the Career Agents, I believe one of those Agents will give you a small Transport ship which can be used later to haul your stuff to a specific station. I suggest setting up various stations in a few different areas, preferable in or near a major Trade Hub, to be a 'Base Of Operations' where you can stockpile loot and conduct business.
Right at first don't trash, leave or bypass any loot collected from wrecks. Keep all high Meta level items to either sell in Market or to fit on your ships later. All low Meta level items and scrap metal can be reprocessed into minerals at various stations.
Sorry to hear about you getting attacked while letting Autopilot do the flying. High Security space is not safe. After you plot a course to your destination, it's much safer to manually pilot your ship by clicking the next jump gate of your route listed in your Overview and select 'Warp to / Jump' option.
Last but not least, these forums and Google search are great ways to gain knowledge about the game. Good luck to you and may you have lot's of success in this game.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Zack Aphnos
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.02.28 10:45:11 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:OK, seems you're back on track now which is a good thing. Definitely take your time in joining a player corp. As others have said, fly with them for a bit, research them and ask questions.
Just remember that in this game, Information is King and Conversation is it's Queen. Make sure to check info on everything (right click and select show info).
As for your assets in other stations, don't worry about moving or carrying them with you. They are perfectly safe in station and always available for use when needed. As your time in-game increases you'll acquire lot's of items, especially if you do exploration or run missions. It's ok to leave the items in various stations for future use. They can be easily found in your assets inventory window (safe icon in Neocom bar - left side of screen).
Definitely complete all of the Career Agents, I believe one of those Agents will give you a small Transport ship which can be used later to haul your stuff to a specific station. I suggest setting up various stations in a few different areas, preferable in or near a major Trade Hub, to be a 'Base Of Operations' where you can stockpile loot and conduct business.
Right at first don't trash, leave or bypass any loot collected from wrecks. Keep all high Meta level items to either sell in Market or to fit on your ships later. All low Meta level items and scrap metal can be reprocessed into minerals at various stations.
Sorry to hear about you getting attacked while letting Autopilot do the flying. High Security space is not safe. After you plot a course to your destination, it's much safer to manually pilot your ship by clicking the next jump gate of your route listed in your Overview and select 'Warp to / Jump' option.
Last but not least, these forums and Google search are great ways to gain knowledge about the game. Good luck to you and may you have lot's of success in this game.
DMC
Yeah, I'm in a NPC corp right now and I'm having fun with one of the members there. He (presumably a male) is really fun, though we've only talked for about 10 minutes (?).
Yeah, I figured out the Personal Assets thingy, but thanks for the information!
Yep, on my way to completing the Career Agents missions. So far, I haven't gotten any Transport ships, but it's kinda fun having an objective to complete instead of mining constantly (which is kinda boring, to me).
I trashed my items already T_T But I guess I can recover those in no time. I don't think they're that valuable anyway, but I will not repeat the same mistake in the future. Thanks for the tips.
I think that I was not attacked by another clone. I think that it was the Navy First Sergeant ships (which I believe are NPCs guarding the Gallente space).
Yeah, I am watching some videos from Youtube when I have free time, especially the videos from Reload. |
Kathern Aurilen
170
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Posted - 2017.02.28 13:39:42 -
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Zack Aphnos wrote:Yeah, I'm in a NPC corp right now and I'm having fun with one of the members there. He (presumably a male) is really fun, though we've only talked for about 10 minutes (?). Just chatting with people amd kicking it. Thats how I found the the couple of corps I joined.
I chit chat on local when I see them mining or on local, I sometimes i go on fleet trips with the group. Sooner or later I get a invite, I generally don't just join a corp unless I interact with someone on local.
I snoop on the info pane when I see someone new to see what they and their corps are about when I see them locally.
No cuts, no butts, no coconuts!
Forum alt, unskilled in the ways of pewpew!
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