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Blitzkrieg
Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:01:00 -
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To the OP:
Probably wrong section of the forum, all you'll get is a senseless flalmewar btw Alliance & Coalition forum warriors
But this definetly a game mechanic that needs to be sorted out by CCP.
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:02:00 -
[62]
Originally by: The Dokter
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam i said the thing that you can read above.
People don't flame him because they like that people are loging off, there are flaming him because he is trying to single out an alliance over one persone doing something that allaince doesn't even agree with.
I have almost never met an alliance or corp who doesn't have people doing this stupid "exploit". So I agree with you that ccp has to fix it, but I think there are more then enough threads on this forum about this problem. 
What is the internal policy of an alliance does not concern me in this thread, but it is not uncommon that the black sheep makes the reputation of a group.
It is the case.
There aren't more than enough threads until it's fixed.
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Fornacis
Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:03:00 -
[63]
Unfortunate for Fearless, but all alliances/corps have a handful of ppl that log, and yes it does cast a bad image on the whole entity...."one bad apple can ruin the whole barrel" comes to mind.
Shake the frustration Fearless, heck you've killed more ppl solo than half of these guys flaming you in this thread have killed in 50 man blobs. You're in that top group of PvPers in game like most all of 4S. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |

Saul Reaver
UK Corp FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:14:00 -
[64]
I also have respect for Morsus Mihi as an Alliance. we have had some great fights and i hope we have plenty more but come on! You guys do the same aswell. It was only yesterday some of your pilots logged off in a system near us because you didnt have the guts to face us. I think you should stop moaning and get on with enjoying the game. People in greenhouses shouldnt throw stones. See you in space.
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Ozzie Asrail
Exploited
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:42:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Aldari Verve Fatal, axe, xelas and the other blob entities are pretty *** in fountain tbh. They use the tactic of the incompetant. Blob and then bring in your caps.
Now on to the subject at hand. CCP has fixed the log off and log on your alt char ages ago. Now they also fixed the jump through and log bug where even if you are aggros the other side of the gate your aggro is clear. I haven't tested it but thats what i heard don't flame me to death.
Technically it isn't a bug or exploitation but it is down right *** but flying around delve, fountain and period basis you see alot of control qing, safespotting, cloaking, pos/station hugging, stab*****s so on and so forth. Unless the numbers severly outnumber yours.
-Aldari
My hypocrisy meter gives this post 5x and 1x  -----
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Iva Soreass
FireStar Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:51:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Aldari Verve Fatal, axe, xelas and the other blob entities are pretty *** in fountain tbh. They use the tactic of the incompetant. Blob and then bring in your caps.
Now on to the subject at hand. CCP has fixed the log off and log on your alt char ages ago. Now they also fixed the jump through and log bug where even if you are aggros the other side of the gate your aggro is clear. I haven't tested it but thats what i heard don't flame me to death.
Technically it isn't a bug or exploitation but it is down right *** but flying around delve, fountain and period basis you see alot of control qing, safespotting, cloaking, pos/station hugging, stab*****s so on and so forth. Unless the numbers severly outnumber yours.
-Aldari
Omg so funny coming from a GS member. GS are the worse for these kinda tactics so stop talking **** tbh. Damm my funnyest kill to date was the GS pilot in a punisher who vanished after i had him webbed//scrambled and was shooting him, when i caught him 30mins later all he had fitted were ****ty t1 and civilian mods on and he logged to save that 
So look in house before you start to try preaching ****.
I was violated by BackDoor Bandit :*(. Perfection Comes To Those Who Wait |

Eleese
Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.04.28 13:42:00 -
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Edited by: Eleese on 28/04/2007 13:39:03 kuroka - free-space-rangers - Morsus mihi
This is the name of the pilot who did exactly the same thing to me on 16-04-07, he then tried the log in and out so he warped away little by little since i camped gate for 20mins or so determined to kill him as i was angry... so 20mins later he did it waiting to long i probed and killed him. Moral of the story don't start a thread bad mouthing an alliance/corp when yours is equally guilty.
Oh and I had him down to about 1% structure before he disappeared first time.
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Dal Thrax
Caldari Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2007.04.28 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Moonlight Express Edited by: Moonlight Express on 28/04/2007 01:24:46 Emm, heard of a dictor? Oh, and can I have your stuff when you quit or are you just crying like a little brat that does not get his way?
A dictor would have changed exactly nothing in this situation because it still doesn't give an aggro timer.. The only thing that changes something is having enough firepower to kill the ship in less than the 1 minute it takes for it to time out.
Actually you're wrong. If you log off character #1 on an account and then log on character #2 ON THE SAME ACCOUNT, then character #1 vanishes instantly (not sure if this still happens if char #1 is in a bubble though). Aggro timer in such a situation is irrelevant when character #2 logs on character #1 disappears. Why do you think there hasn't been a titan kill since D2?
Full disclosure: we haven't tested this extensively or for the last couple patches since we consider it an exploit.
Dal
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed. delaying startup again. soon as i have time i will fill you in on the details
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.04.28 14:11:00 -
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Edited by: Shirei on 28/04/2007 14:07:57
Originally by: Dal Thrax Actually you're wrong. If you log off character #1 on an account and then log on character #2 ON THE SAME ACCOUNT, then character #1 vanishes instantly (not sure if this still happens if char #1 is in a bubble though). Aggro timer in such a situation is irrelevant when character #2 logs on character #1 disappears. Why do you think there hasn't been a titan kill since D2?
Full disclosure: we haven't tested this extensively or for the last couple patches since we consider it an exploit.
Dal
This hasn't worked for years. CCP actually do fix some exploits, you know.
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e3joker
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.28 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Aldari Verve Fatal, axe, xelas and the other blob entities are pretty *** in fountain tbh. They use the tactic of the incompetant. Blob and then bring in your caps.
LMAO!!! thanks for the laugh bro....I needed it. A goon accusing others of using blob tactics is just hillarious. Lookin at the killboards it seems you may be just a tad bitter from losing all those ships.
you can go back to your fantasy world now
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.28 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Aldari Verve Fatal, axe, xelas and the other blob entities are pretty *** in fountain tbh. They use the tactic of the incompetant. Blob and then bring in your caps.
Ah, okay, so you don't like us bringing bigger ships to the party, despite the fact that we occasionally lose them in fights that are universally praised for being good fun. That's fine, we'll just bring more numbers, then. Oh, wait, that's blobbing?
So, to clarify: 1) We need to fly the same ships as you (which, all omglolkekekeGOONSinfrigs aside, nonetheless tend to be tech-1). 2) We need to have the same (or fewer) numbers than you.
Thus, remind me why: 1) I've got Command Ships V on my skill plan, and 2) We bother recruiting?
Thanks in advance, --P
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INZi
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.28 15:39:00 -
[72]
u all clearly hasn't watched my latest movie. pay attention to the first scene with the RZR pilot. he's got a bubble up his tail. before he decloaks from jump in, but still vanish as he ....
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Kaaii
Caldari Equilibrium LLC FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.28 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: K'Bar
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Kaar If you didnt have a bubble on him then theres nothing wrong with the mechanics.
So stop posting.

On a serious note: FATAL sux
And yet you took time out of your busy Complex sploiting schedule to post about them. 
In your opinion that proves that they are good? Ye, I guess me posting on them makes them pretty uber... :D
Fixed  Trading 101 Kaaii-Net Research Labs
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DJTheBaron
Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.28 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Beyond Horizon
On a serious note: FATAL sux
ah bos, gone are the days where you used to be above forum troling and smack i see, ah well i guess things change
i dont personally know every player in every corp in my alliance, and to be honest i dont know half the corps, but if he was in our alliance and did that hes a ***** and shouldnt be here, technicially i can speak for my alliance but really i speak for my corp in saying this sort of ****e is uncalled for and our own members dont do it, and if they do, you let me know
i dont give a dam about how your corps are percieved by others in eve, but i sure as hell do give a **** about my own, and smack talking/exploiting little retards is something we are not, and have proved time and time again with our conduct and discipline in every aspect of destroying your assets ingame "The Views & Opinions Expressed In This Post Represent Those of My Corporation & Alliance. So Go **** Yourself" DJTheBaron: FATAL Alliance Diplomat |

Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.28 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dal Thrax
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Moonlight Express Edited by: Moonlight Express on 28/04/2007 01:24:46 Emm, heard of a dictor? Oh, and can I have your stuff when you quit or are you just crying like a little brat that does not get his way?
A dictor would have changed exactly nothing in this situation because it still doesn't give an aggro timer.. The only thing that changes something is having enough firepower to kill the ship in less than the 1 minute it takes for it to time out.
Actually you're wrong. If you log off character #1 on an account and then log on character #2 ON THE SAME ACCOUNT, then character #1 vanishes instantly (not sure if this still happens if char #1 is in a bubble though). Aggro timer in such a situation is irrelevant when character #2 logs on character #1 disappears. Why do you think there hasn't been a titan kill since D2?
Full disclosure: we haven't tested this extensively or for the last couple patches since we consider it an exploit.
Dal
Seriously, if you're going to try to correct someone in an authoritative manner, please try to at least be right, because you're not.
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Zakon
Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.28 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Zakon on 28/04/2007 18:37:44 I m sure fearless didnt intended to flaim any particular alianse by this thread couse its known that evry alianse have certain ammount off pu...s in its lines. Some more or less thought.
On the other hand i dont belive frustration is attended towards person that did the lame loggoff ( i actualy feel sorry for the guys practicing it ) but towards CCP that is as usuall duing not much to solve problem that have been alive for ages.
I was actualy vitness to the mentioned logg off and its not the question off killing shuttle or titan but fact that if u are not in blob there is no way u can kill anything bigger then frig or bad tanked cr if it logg off. ATM there is nothing that stop anyone from logging off and saving ship this way. Other words whats the point off playing pvp part off the game where u cant kill anything??
Many players vill never do logofski but a lot off them will. So the same player that escape certain death by logging off will kill u day after in the same situation when u refuze to do the same ****? I l call it CCP paradox :)
To prevent this without ccp doing something about it ?? Its hard but doable. Alianse level maybe harder but i know it works on corp level.In 4S u do loggofski after jump to system mean u pressed out off corp button. And u are kicked in matter off 24 hours when role timer is out.
Anyhow...to players using it i l just say ..try tetris.
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Arrgs
Sicarri Covenant Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.28 19:38:00 -
[77]
CAOD has really gone downhill. Between this and the thread by that D2 guy I don't know what to say.
Wait, yes I do. Shut up. My first video!
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Princess Voodoo
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.28 19:40:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Arrgs CAOD has really gone downhill. Between this and the thread by that D2 guy I don't know what to say.
Wait, yes I do. Shut up.
This is what happens when we don't have Privateer wars to keep us busy.  I KILLED SOMEONE - HERE IS A PICTURES OF IT [ ] |

FireFox McProwler
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.28 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Pilk
Originally by: Aldari Verve Fatal, axe, xelas and the other blob entities are pretty *** in fountain tbh. They use the tactic of the incompetant. Blob and then bring in your caps.
Ah, okay, so you don't like us bringing bigger ships to the party, despite the fact that we occasionally lose them in fights that are universally praised for being good fun. That's fine, we'll just bring more numbers, then. Oh, wait, that's blobbing?
So, to clarify: 1) We need to fly the same ships as you (which, all omglolkekekeGOONSinfrigs aside, nonetheless tend to be tech-1). 2) We need to have the same (or fewer) numbers than you.
Thus, remind me why: 1) I've got Command Ships V on my skill plan, and 2) We bother recruiting?
Thanks in advance, --P
Lets make a fraps video of it and post it on the forums. It would be more amusing to the eve public (American idol style lol)
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Broska
Shadow Blades
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Posted - 2007.04.29 01:30:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Broska on 29/04/2007 01:27:45
Originally by: Gunship I hope CCP will fix the game too, perhaps it's a good reason to extend the logoff timer without agro for another minute or two. Would request FATAL pilots do not fall for the flamebait. Enjoy eve, you pay for it.
As an Ex member I can say this.
I would LOVE to see Morsus Mihi stand up to what what FATAL fought against as an alliance and survive.
MM Should seriously consider their own acheivements before critising a good corp and a good alliance. ------------------------------
Originally by: Tovarishch flying a Scorp into a fleet battle is like parking a pink moped in front of a biker bar - you will die... quickly.
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DeathGrip
Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.29 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Aldari Verve Fatal, axe, xelas and the other blob entities are pretty *** in fountain tbh. They use the tactic of the incompetant. Blob and then bring in your caps.
Now on to the subject at hand. CCP has fixed the log off and log on your alt char ages ago. Now they also fixed the jump through and log bug where even if you are aggros the other side of the gate your aggro is clear. I haven't tested it but thats what i heard don't flame me to death.
Technically it isn't a bug or exploitation but it is down right *** but flying around delve, fountain and period basis you see alot of control qing, safespotting, cloaking, pos/station hugging, stab*****s so on and so forth. Unless the numbers severly outnumber yours.
-Aldari
Yea because Axe is afraid to use its carriers solo or jump them in without support. I think even MM, Snigg, D2, Sparta would have to disagree with this statement, atleast any of them that fought us in fountain or are fighting us.
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Aramark
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.29 01:48:00 -
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\o/ for deathgrip 
always remember z-a....z-a.. and one more time z-a  --------------------------------------------------- "Roses are red, Violets are blue, I'm a developer, are you one too?" |

Angor
The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.29 04:42:00 -
[83]
Oh dear... u shouldnt have started this thread under that title. Its not really fair to tarnish a whole alliance for the actions of one member. _______________________________ Who the f*k stole my sig... |

Raid
Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.04.29 05:01:00 -
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I want my 1 minute back for reading this joke of a thread..
Seriously how can you trash on a whole alliance because 1 person logged off? Theres only a few alliances that actually encourage its members to log off and FATAL is NOT one of them.
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Aeryn Davenport
Claflin Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.29 10:13:00 -
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What the person does is log off after jumping through but before they decloak. They get 30 seconds before they decloak, then you have another 30 seconds to kill him before he disappears. You just didn't have enough firepower to kill him before he disappeared. People do it all the time, and it is a lame tactic.
BUT LOGGING IN A SECOND CHARACTER ON THE SAME ACCOUNT DOES NOT MAKE THE FIRST ONE DISAPPEAR! TEST IT OUT IF YOU THINK DIFFERENTLY!
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Aldari Verve
Black Omega Security GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.04.29 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Iva Soreass
Originally by: Aldari Verve Fatal, axe, xelas and the other blob entities are pretty *** in fountain tbh. They use the tactic of the incompetant. Blob and then bring in your caps.
Now on to the subject at hand. CCP has fixed the log off and log on your alt char ages ago. Now they also fixed the jump through and log bug where even if you are aggros the other side of the gate your aggro is clear. I haven't tested it but thats what i heard don't flame me to death.
Technically it isn't a bug or exploitation but it is down right *** but flying around delve, fountain and period basis you see alot of control qing, safespotting, cloaking, pos/station hugging, stab*****s so on and so forth. Unless the numbers severly outnumber yours.
-Aldari
Omg so funny coming from a GS member. GS are the worse for these kinda tactics so stop talking **** tbh. Damm my funnyest kill to date was the GS pilot in a punisher who vanished after i had him webbed//scrambled and was shooting him, when i caught him 30mins later all he had fitted were ****ty t1 and civilian mods on and he logged to save that 
So look in house before you start to try preaching ****.
Iva let me break it down for you... i know it's difficult to understand but here goes. You joind BOS about 6 months ago (roughly) because ASCN (mega blobbers of eve) where crumbling. You lasted less than a month probably less. No fault there our combat style isn't for everyone. In that time did you ever take notice to how we actually flew. Mostly out numbered just using tactics and a brain which you seem to lack to win or lose. Just cus we join goons isn't going to change our combat style the corp is over 4 years old you really thing the ****s gonna change once we've been set in a routine for that long? Didn't think so. I hope i broke it down enough and used small enough words so that you can digest it.
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Don Z0LA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2007.04.29 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Broska Edited by: Broska on 29/04/2007 01:27:45
Originally by: Gunship I hope CCP will fix the game too, perhaps it's a good reason to extend the logoff timer without agro for another minute or two. Would request FATAL pilots do not fall for the flamebait. Enjoy eve, you pay for it.
As an Ex member I can say this.
I would LOVE to see Morsus Mihi stand up to what what FATAL fought against as an alliance and survive.
MM Should seriously consider their own acheivements before critising a good corp and a good alliance.
lol ?
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Iva Soreass
FireStar Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.29 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Iva Soreass on 29/04/2007 12:09:42
Originally by: Aldari Verve
Iva let me break it down for you... i know it's difficult to understand but here goes. You joind BOS about 6 months ago (roughly) because ASCN (mega blobbers of eve) where crumbling. You lasted less than a month probably less. No fault there our combat style isn't for everyone. In that time did you ever take notice to how we actually flew. Mostly out numbered just using tactics and a brain which you seem to lack to win or lose. Just cus we join goons isn't going to change our combat style the corp is over 4 years old you really thing the ****s gonna change once we've been set in a routine for that long? Didn't think so. I hope i broke it down enough and used small enough words so that you can digest it.
Let me break it down for you , i said GS not BOS. Yes i know how you guys fly and for the time i was in BOS it just wasnt for me. Now like i said look in your alliance before you start trying to preach **** about tactics which GS is rife for.
I was violated by BackDoor Bandit :*(. Perfection Comes To Those Who Wait |

Yoshimiwa
Yoshimiwa Industrial
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Posted - 2007.04.29 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zakon Edited by: Zakon on 28/04/2007 18:37:44 I m sure fearless didnt intended to flaim any particular alianse by this thread couse its known that evry alianse have certain ammount off pu...s in its lines. Some more or less thought.
If the intention was not to flame FATAL as an alliance, pray tell me, why is their name in the topic?
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sliver 0xD
Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.29 15:53:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Kaar If you didnt have a bubble on him then theres nothing wrong with the mechanics.
So stop posting.
still wrong with machanics :) if u did not shoot him before helogs off his ship will sit there for 2 min and disapear. this has happend to me 1000 times :) if u are in a flycatcher its nice a hauler logs in your buble and he stays but if u do not kill it in less then 2 min it will disapear and it will still get away :(
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