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Fearless Sheep
Caldari 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.28 01:23:00 -
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Well, we just had the most unpleasant game "experience" I didnt think was possible.
Kogal flying Drake jumped ot the system where I was waiting for him and shorty (while he was cloaked) 2 more guys joined me on the gate. He then uncloaked, cloaked and we rushed to uncloak him. In that moment he logged of and we tackled him. But, guess what! On half of armor his ship dissapears from the game. No, not warped out.
Ofc, GM would say that logging off from game cannot be considered exploit, so this message would be primarelly for EVE community. LOG OFF while cloaked and enter game with alt!!! It will save both your ship and implants \o/ Do it AGAIN and AGAIN untill CCP finds the guts to change the exploit part of this.
Thanks FATAL Alliance, The Wild Hunt Corporation, and Kogal pilot in particular for dragging this game's mechanics to the whole new level.
P.S. This is not the first case of this and Im not probably the only PvPer around stroke and hell, maybe there is a tread about it, I dont know. I just want to make EVE community aware of this (once again).
Democracy is when 2 wolves and a sheep meet to decide who is for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has a gun. |

Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.28 01:25:00 -
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Welcome to three months ago?  -----
[Coreli Corporation Mainfrane] |

Kaar
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.28 01:27:00 -
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If you didnt have a bubble on him then theres nothing wrong with the mechanics.
So stop posting.
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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.28 01:27:00 -
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Edited by: Moonlight Express on 28/04/2007 01:24:46
Emm, heard of a dictor? Oh, and can I have your stuff when you quit or are you just crying like a little brat that does not get his way?
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.04.28 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Moonlight Express Edited by: Moonlight Express on 28/04/2007 01:24:46 Emm, heard of a dictor? Oh, and can I have your stuff when you quit or are you just crying like a little brat that does not get his way?
A dictor would have changed exactly nothing in this situation because it still doesn't give an aggro timer.. The only thing that changes something is having enough firepower to kill the ship in less than the 1 minute it takes for it to time out.
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James 315
Yet Another CAOD-Inspired 1-Man Alt Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.28 01:30:00 -
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It's just a drake, bro.
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Pherusa Plumosa
Minmatar Freedom for All The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2007.04.28 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: Pherusa Plumosa on 28/04/2007 01:45:47
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Moonlight Express Edited by: Moonlight Express on 28/04/2007 01:24:46 Emm, heard of a dictor? Oh, and can I have your stuff when you quit or are you just crying like a little brat that does not get his way?
A dictor would have changed exactly nothing in this situation because it still doesn't give an aggro timer.. The only thing that changes something is having enough firepower to kill the ship in less than the 1 minute it takes for it to time out.
He wrote the enemy logged in with an alt-char afterwards. Maybe your main char will dissappear if you logg in your alt? Because it is really strange that a ship just disapears without warping away. If it was so, I don't know if it is considered as an exploit by ccp or not to try to avoid the 1 minute dissapearing timer. But I can't really judge that with my humble pvp experience ^^. So just speculating. Write a petition and let a GM decide.
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Kusotarre
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.28 01:52:00 -
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I dont think some of you understand the bug. It's not that the guy wasn't agressed or whatnot. It's that, when he logged off, he logged on another character on the same account. This causes your first character, aggro timer or not, to disappear from the game.
At least, it used to, I assume it still does.
No amount of bubbles or aggression can overcome this. The only way around it is to kill the ship before the guy can log onto an alt.
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.04.28 01:56:00 -
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This whole 'log in an alt to make other chars disappear'-business is an urban legend that hasn't worked for 2-3 years...
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.28 01:57:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 28/04/2007 01:53:27
Originally by: Pherusa Plumosa He wrote the enemy logged in with an alt-char afterwards. Maybe your main char will dissappear if you logg in your alt? Because it is really strange that a ship just disapears without warping away.
Its not true, its not weird and its not an exploit. Its how the logging off is supposed to work, theres no need to log onto an alt either, it doesn't affect anything.
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ispyozs
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Posted - 2007.04.28 01:58:00 -
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FATAL Alliance is known for cheating as much as they can. 6 months ago they did and they do it today. and when the going gets to hard for them. they run...and call in about 5 different alliances to help them.
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ispyozs
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Posted - 2007.04.28 01:58:00 -
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FATAL Alliance is known for cheating as much as they can. 6 months ago they did and they do it today. and when the going gets to hard for them. they run...and call in about 5 different alliances to help them.
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Jotan Veer
HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2007.04.28 02:11:00 -
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People do this stuff on both sides all the time, hardy exclusive to one corp.
I have seen at least 3 people in large ships logging out of my bubbles in the past week in Fountain. Which kinda blows if you don't have the firepower to pop a BC/BS in 30 secs.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.28 02:12:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 28/04/2007 02:11:15 If someone logs, before he is aggressed and gets scrambled and shot afterwards, the ship just stays, where it and disappears from space after some time without warping off, if you don't have enough firepower to pop it fast enough. ( No surprise: A scambled ship can't warp off, but a pilot can't get aggressed after logging off, so the ship still disappears after logging. )
Nothing new. I have been complaining about that ages ago like last summer, but you always get the stupid: 'bla, griefer. If you are more than one I log !' responses. Good for them that I'm not in charge, otherwise we'd have a different log-out mechanics next week that would require a controlled logouts via an initiated timer for a safe logout, but wouldn't remove you from space within 2 mins, if the connection gets cut or you ctrol-q.  ___________ Muuuhhh !!! |

Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.04.28 02:20:00 -
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Why posting this? you will only make that nub feel better because you are so upset.
- Gob
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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.28 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Fearless Sheep Well, we just had the most unpleasant game "experience" I didnt think was possible.
Kogal flying Drake jumped ot the system where I was waiting for him and shorty (while he was cloaked) 2 more guys joined me on the gate. He then uncloaked, cloaked and we rushed to uncloak him. In that moment he logged of and we tackled him. But, guess what! On half of armor his ship dissapears from the game. No, not warped out.
Ofc, GM would say that logging off from game cannot be considered exploit, so this message would be primarelly for EVE community. LOG OFF while cloaked and enter game with alt!!! It will save both your ship and implants \o/ Do it AGAIN and AGAIN untill CCP finds the guts to change the exploit part of this.
Thanks FATAL Alliance, The Wild Hunt Corporation, and Kogal pilot in particular for dragging this game's mechanics to the whole new level.
P.S. This is not the first case of this and Im not probably the only PvPer around stroke and hell, maybe there is a tread about it, I dont know. I just want to make EVE community aware of this (once again).
Hey Mr. Fearless (Nice name btw) Do you remember about 5 days ago when you were in Fountain around the sphinx constellation (around OWTP I think it was) were your small fleet of 25 people logged off because of the incoming Fatal gang, and you stayed logged off until your scouts could verify that yes indeed the system was clear and the Fatal fleet was gone. Well i do have respect for Morsus Mihi, but don't start preaching on these forums that Logging off is bad (which it is btw) when you and your comrades do it themselves. Nuff said lets get back to fighting.  ------------------------------------------------------------------
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.04.28 02:48:00 -
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you jump log off they now have 2 mins to gank you if not they fail and you get away the end.
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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K'Bar
Caldari Shadow Company Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.28 02:58:00 -
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Edited by: K''Bar on 28/04/2007 02:58:25 LOL, that's an old Goon trick. I remember the first time it happened to me I was like WTF. Goons did/do it all the time. I feel your pain bro! I hope they fix that exploit sometime soon.
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ArcticFox
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.28 03:00:00 -
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Clearly the FATAL alliance should be disbanded for this horrifying occurance.  -------------------------- There is only one +6 sword of WTFPWN in Eve, and only the lag is allowed to equip it. |

patteSatan
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.28 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Welcome to three months ago? 
oh, bob pets speak....
...you women are creepy, but amusing as hell.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.28 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: K'Bar Edited by: K''Bar on 28/04/2007 02:58:25 LOL, that's an old Goon trick. I remember the first time it happened to me I was like WTF. Goons did/do it all the time. I feel your pain bro! I hope they fix that exploit sometime soon.
We had a Goon dominix log off after it ran into a small gank squad of ours a few weeks ago. We couldn't lock it; we sat and watched as it took 15 seconds to warp out and EVE would just not let us lock it, like trying to lock a ship just undocking. He then constantly logged in and out for about 10 minutes to move his safespot around 
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scabbsssjr
Gallente M'8'S
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Posted - 2007.04.28 03:11:00 -
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LOL, what game are you playing m8 that this is new?
Loggoff/onski is running rampant.
Can't this be classified as flamebait? JW? ---------------------------
Originally by: Ductoris At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.
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Beyond Horizon
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.04.28 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kaar If you didnt have a bubble on him then theres nothing wrong with the mechanics.
So stop posting.

On a serious note: FATAL sux -
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K'Bar
Caldari Shadow Company Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.28 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Kaar If you didnt have a bubble on him then theres nothing wrong with the mechanics.
So stop posting.

On a serious note: FATAL sux
And yet you took time out of your busy ganking schedule to post about them. 
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Armois Delgato
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.28 03:32:00 -
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Posting in a fatal thread!
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Bedrock
Minmatar Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.28 03:46:00 -
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WHHAAAAAAAAAHHAAAAAAAAA!!!
I really wish I could make that bigger tbfh  
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Eironia
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Posted - 2007.04.28 03:49:00 -
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Cry me a river we had the exact same thing happen with a member of iron and we had his geddon in like 10% structure ================================================== i post on my alt because im lazy not because im trying to hide |

e3joker
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.28 04:04:00 -
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fatal cheats.......LOL   
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Aquidus Nefron
Caldari Department of Defence Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2007.04.28 04:19:00 -
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feel free to flame me for this question, but if he logged, and u have the ship warpscrammed, can't u just board it?
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.28 04:19:00 -
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never heard of these fatal guys, who are they ? --
Bakka! bakka! bakka! bakka! bakka! bakka! bakka! |
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