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Beast of Revelations
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
135
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Posted - 2017.02.28 01:01:36 -
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...then why do they allow the plethora of POCOs, player-owned structures, and whatever else to exist in their space? Do all of these things exist with CODE's blessing? Does CODE enforce a tribute payment system (a tax) in order to place and operate structures in their space?
I'm actually not [necessarily] bashing CODE here. I'm not a miner, and I've never lost anything to CODE to my knowledge. I'm simply saying, you don't truly 'own' highsec... unless and until you actually, well, 'own' it. So if structures and whatever else exist in highsec without your blessing, I would say to CODE - 'get to work.' Start enforcing your will. Back up your claims of highsec ownership. Then my hat will be off to you. Otherwise... not so much.
I have no idea whether this question has been posted on the forums or not. But I personally haven't seen it. It's a question that popped into my head is all. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1626
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Posted - 2017.02.28 01:04:04 -
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Have you read the actual code? I do not see why POCOs would be in violation of the code, and if they are not in violation of the code, why would CODE. not allow them? CODE. are a very lawful bunch. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5835
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Posted - 2017.02.28 01:20:44 -
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Attacking player-owned structures requires a wardec. Which costs money. CODE is cheap.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Amojin
Entropic Synergies Research
21
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Posted - 2017.02.28 01:28:29 -
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Cheap dimestore hoods.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aI9-g_n_OE
There is CODE. Cheap dime-store hoods. |
Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
123
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Posted - 2017.02.28 01:36:02 -
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code is dead...yawn
code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita.
code ALWAYS LOSES. Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
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Amojin
Entropic Synergies Research
21
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Posted - 2017.02.28 01:41:25 -
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Hazel TuckerTS wrote:code is dead...yawn
Yeah, but giving River Phoenix another day in the sun? Worth it. Running on Empty was great. My own Private Idaho, for all the dissent, at the time, was great. Working with Harrison Ford on Mosquito Coast was pretty good, too.
I liked how that movie ended, the peacemaker, dying for nothing. You always remember them. Aleka's Attic was not too terrible a band, either. His brother, Joaquin, is not so wonderful. He's not a Vegan, not religious, does not even try to do the right thing. The father's ranch in Costa Rica? River bought it. He died at Johnny Depp's Viper Club on Halloween about 20 years ago.
Probably from a spiked drink. But whatever, of course that got, let's say, 'clouded,' at investigation. |
Dark Lord Trump
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
363
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Posted - 2017.02.28 01:47:21 -
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For the same reason that some wormholes have POCOs from other corps in them. They simply don't care.
I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
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Beast of Revelations
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
135
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Posted - 2017.02.28 01:53:43 -
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Neuntausend wrote:Have you read the actual code? I do not see why POCOs would be in violation of the code, and if they are not in violation of the code, why would CODE. not allow them?
Seems strange that an owner of space would not charge for using that space. How many null sec corps or alliances allow people to squat in their space? You either control a space, or you don't, right? |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5835
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Posted - 2017.02.28 01:59:21 -
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CODE doesn't control high-sec. They're not even renters. They're glorified tourists roaming around selling 'maps to the stars'.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Jagd Wilde
Hageken Helldivers
77
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Posted - 2017.02.28 02:21:37 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote: rabble
Trouble maker huh? You looking to get on that red pen list, friend?
The rest of these tears are just lulzy.
Every alt I own has a red safety, this has brought my friends much laughter.
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morion
Lighting Build
191
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Posted - 2017.02.28 02:49:50 -
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the color of tin foil is... |
Amojin
Entropic Synergies Research
21
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Posted - 2017.02.28 02:51:46 -
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morion wrote:the color of tin foil is...
Red.
What makes the green grass grow? |
morion
Lighting Build
191
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Posted - 2017.02.28 02:59:55 -
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Amojin wrote:morion wrote:the color of tin foil is... Red. What makes the green grass grow?
unicorns.
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Pix Severus
Empty You
6040
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Posted - 2017.02.28 03:04:13 -
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I would imagine that the only time CODE. are interested in structures is when they are being transported illegally.
MTU Hunter: Latest Entry - Dec 28 2016 - Vocal Local 4
MTU Hunting 101: Comprehensive Guide
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TackyTachy1
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
148
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Posted - 2017.02.28 03:05:49 -
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As bizarre as it sounds there are people who actually buy into all that Code malarky. But once you figure out the right ships with the right fit then Code killing is about like killing belt rats, just needs a touch more finesse.
Forum Rep for a bunch of characters, couple corps
and one seriously Lost In Space multiboxer.
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Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2017.02.28 03:07:37 -
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About once a week, someone in CODE will decide the attention-o-meter is getting on the empty side, and they'll make a thread talking about CODE, and about a billion dumbasses will run up in it, all tripping all over themselves to talk about how uninterested in CODE they are.
I wish CODE would stop, but that probably won't happen until CCP declares CODE threads like AFK Cloaker threads. More than enough examples of how this entire thread will play out are available to be searched on the forms. At some point, it is okay to stop having the same conversation over and over and over again. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1629
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Posted - 2017.02.28 03:23:52 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:Seems strange that an owner of space would not charge for using that space. How many null sec corps or alliances allow people to squat in their space? You either control a space, or you don't, right?
Out of the pure goodness of their hearts maybe? Get over your own greed man! The ones who can enforce laws in an area rule over that area, but they doen't need to charge for it. As the rulers, they can freely decide whether they want to charge for using their space or not. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5835
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Posted - 2017.02.28 04:12:59 -
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Goons are well known for their charitable 'endeavours'. Take the latest Burn Jita 4 Kids. Think of the children next time you undock your freighter, and remember to give generously.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Zanar Skwigelf
Boa Innovations
Brothers of Tangra
76
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Posted - 2017.02.28 04:25:52 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:
Seems strange that an owner of space would not charge for using that space.
CODE is not materialistic. The reason that miners have such a hard time understanding them is because they can only think in terms of maximum isk efficiency, whereas CODE does not outwardly think in terms of how much isk they can make.
Also, to more directly answer the question: because running a PI farm is far more interactive than mining, so is probably allowed by the CODE. autopiloting your PI back to Jita however... |
Amojin
Entropic Synergies Research
21
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Posted - 2017.02.28 04:43:59 -
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morion wrote:Amojin wrote:morion wrote:the color of tin foil is... Red. What makes the green grass grow? unicorns.
Blood. Blood makes the green grass grow. :) In the military, we preferred that it be our enemies, but ours works, too. Unicorn blood is only sufficient to clone Morgan Freeman. Or is it tears?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch5MEJk5ZCQ |
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Trevor Dalech
Absolute Obedience
273
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Posted - 2017.02.28 06:17:22 -
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I wonder what it would take to suicide gank a POCO... |
Lucas Lucias
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
55
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Posted - 2017.02.28 06:58:58 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:...then why do they allow the plethora of POCOs, player-owned structures, and whatever else to exist in their space? Do all of these things exist with CODE's blessing? Does CODE enforce a tribute payment system (a tax) in order to place and operate structures in their space?
I'm actually not [necessarily] bashing CODE here. I'm not a miner, and I've never lost anything to CODE to my knowledge. I'm simply saying, you don't truly 'own' highsec... unless and until you actually, well, 'own' it. So if structures and whatever else exist in highsec without your blessing, I would say to CODE - 'get to work.' Start enforcing your will. Back up your claims of highsec ownership. Then my hat will be off to you. Otherwise... not so much.
I have no idea whether this question has been posted on the forums or not before. But I personally haven't seen it. It's a question that popped into my head is all.
Simple really, a lot of the hisec POCO's are owned by alt corps of war dec alliances, CODE does not have the ability to attack them, they would get utterly smashed. So all CODE does is gank poorly tanked mining ships mostly flown by low SP characters or new players and state rather grandly that they own hisec. It is meaningless twaddle...  |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
3660
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Posted - 2017.02.28 08:04:40 -
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Clockwork Robot wrote:About once a week, someone in CODE will decide the attention-o-meter is getting on the empty side, and they'll make a thread talking about CODE, and about a billion dumbasses will run up in it, all tripping all over themselves to talk about how uninterested in CODE they are.
You see right trough us. OP is a CODE. spy
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Kaybella Hakaari
State War Academy
Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2017.02.28 08:29:36 -
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If you named a POCO "Autopiloting Obelisk," do you think CODE. would drop by for a visit? |
Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite
CODE.
951
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Posted - 2017.02.28 16:41:15 -
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Clockwork Robot wrote:About once a week, someone in CODE will decide the attention-o-meter is getting on the empty side, and they'll make a thread talking about CODE, and about a billion dumbasses will run up in it, all tripping all over themselves to talk about how uninterested in CODE they are.
I wish CODE would stop, but that probably won't happen until CCP declares CODE threads like AFK Cloaker threads. More than enough examples of how this entire thread will play out are available to be searched on the forms. At some point, it is okay to stop having the same conversation over and over and over again.
How's your CODE. alt faring?
Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.
Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER
Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome
CCL Loyalist
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
1610
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Posted - 2017.02.28 17:50:29 -
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Trevor Dalech wrote:I wonder what it would take to suicide gank a POCO...
Questions like that are how you get aneurysms.
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
1249
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Posted - 2017.02.28 19:51:56 -
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Elenahina wrote:Trevor Dalech wrote:I wonder what it would take to suicide gank a POCO... Questions like that are how you get aneurysms.
15,000,000 HP if I recall. 10mil, 2.5mi, 2.5 mil
This message brought to you by Experience(tm). When common sense fails you, experience will come to the rescue. Experience(tm) from the makers of CONCORD.
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Aiwha
Infinite Point
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1236
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Posted - 2017.02.28 20:18:36 -
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So divide that number by the alpha of a talos.
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite
CODE.
955
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Posted - 2017.02.28 20:47:26 -
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Aiwha wrote:So divide that number by the alpha of a talos.
OVERRRR 9000!!!!
Jk I didn't do the maths :effort:
Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.
Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER
Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome
CCL Loyalist
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Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
622
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Posted - 2017.02.28 20:56:15 -
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Perhaps the OP, or one of the very helpful forum posters who always reassure each of us how the New Order of Highsec (not just the CODE. alliance) is dying, dead or never really existed, will point out where POCOs violate the Code.
We enforce the New Halaima Code of Conduct. To do that, we had to take control of all of highsec. Once we did that we just continue to enforce the Code. Nothing could be simpler. Why complicate basic governance with such questions?
Highsec is worth fighting for.
By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.-á www.minerbumping.com
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