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Robinete Broadhead
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.02 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro Legitimate idea is suggested, legitimate idea takes money away from CCP, CCP are money-*****s and won't do it, dumb-asses flame topic because that's what dumb-asses do.
Try Darkfall when it comes out, I believe it's taking a SCS stance (Single Character per Server).
looks stupid, never cared for dragons and men in tightes.
I have 3 acounts and run all 3 at once, no prpoblem so far.
Yes, I am an ALT in a NOOB Corp.
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JoDirt
Minmatar House of Geezer
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Posted - 2007.05.02 02:30:00 -
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money = unfair advantage = as real as it gets  |

Sen'ile
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Posted - 2007.05.02 03:45:00 -
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of course the opis right. its unfair that he cant pay for 2 accounts since he made the girl fat 4 times just because he didnt want to use a rubber and now he is paying through his nose for that mistake for the next 20 or so years.
to be honest maybe if you stop smoking or stop drinking once a month or just plan your shopping slightly better you will afford another account.
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Devious Syn
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Posted - 2007.05.02 04:00:00 -
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WTS Clue.....
This is how EvE makes most of its money, do you know how many people have 3,4,5,6 accounts?
The game was designed so you can play multiple accounts at once. If ya think this part of the game will ever go away your playing the wrong game.
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Tonkin
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.02 04:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kassidus Now this is just my opinion disagree if you like it wont hurt my feelings, But I think One of the Biggest and most important problems in EVE is alts.
Theres 2 types of alts, The ones for rich people (second accounts) and the ones for poor people (Second Characters)
Both Cause huge issues in EVE.
Second accounts are probably one of the bigger issues, it allows people with more money to gain an unfair advantage over other players, they have the ability by using multiiple accounts to bypass many game rules and alot of the game mechanics Example soloing in a carrier is not possible if you only have 1 account, if you can afford a Cyno alt you now have bypassed the intended design of the game (in my opinion that sounds like an exploit).
Another issue is with scamming, It seems every person in EVE has a Scaming alt now, if there were no alts there would be virtually now scamming in eve, you would scam someone and become instantly blackballed and eventually quit eve cause you wouldnt be able to do anything, but instead people just scam away and make more alts.
Wars and pvp are drastically effected by alts you can use an alt to move goods, you can use a alt to sit at a gate and provide intel you can use a alt as bait you can use multiple accounts and always have a wingman able to follow your exact orders and fill exact roles without the problems associated with team comunication. Basically you name it and alts have effected all of eve drastically and for the worst.
I dont know what can be done about multiple accounts, I doubt CCP would do anything about it cause they make assloads of money, But a Family feature could be added to EVE that could correct this and make eve alot more interesting.
Make an account , pick a first and last name , finish character creation, if you want another character you pick a first name last name carries over from the original so all of your alts will be linked by ancestory.
The only way to fix multiple accounts is to have ccp link multiple accounts if its to the same household in the same manner so once someone creats an eve account all other accounts and characters will always be under that same fictional last name.
all names wwouldnt have to change, just under your character description it would show a family name.
Anyways just an idea if a bit long winded :)
i have a alt, so im ruining the game, i pay for 2 accounts i wish i just payed for one, but i be damned if my main will learn refining skills, building skills. i rather have one that pwns peeps like u and one to build stuff to pwn u with.
i do what the hell i want with my money mate, if i want 10 alts i'll pay for 10 alts
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Kate Nexus
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Posted - 2007.05.02 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn I've always considered it strange that people make a distinction between different groups of characters working together based on whether those characters are controlled by one person or multiple people
nobody plays the game to be a sacrificial scout for another player to travel through chokepoints. sorry but it just doesnt happen. this is a role reserved for alt accounts and is a big advantage. if anyone tried to take away my ability to use an alt account for scouting and metagaming I'd probably quit. I love blowing up a carebear and when they try to gatecamp me I can just use my alt to wait for a way out.
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Caios
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.02 07:02:00 -
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Alts are fine. Without alts there'd be a fraction of the number of industrial/research chars out there right now, and if you want to experiment with another playing style, well, you're ******.
Always did think the multiple accounts thing was kind of wonky, though. Why not just let us spread training out over multiple chars? Oh well, hardly matters anyway.
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FenShui
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Posted - 2007.05.02 07:21:00 -
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Edited by: FenShui on 02/05/2007 07:17:18 Look Ma, I'm in an Anti-alt post (or something like that) and IBTL 
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Kormorant
Gallente Oneirocritica Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.02 07:55:00 -
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There is nothing wrong with multiple accounts.
What next? Do you want to penalise people who get further because they can spend more time in the game?
Instead of complaining about not being able to afford a second account, get a job?
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DarkFenix
Caldari Pilots Of Honour
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Posted - 2007.05.02 08:21:00 -
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This is a pvp character. Its intelligence and memory are sub-par to say the least. I want to dabble in industry a bit. Am I going to train up for it on this character? Hell no, it would take ages and I still have a million and one combat skills to train. So what do I do? Get a second account with its main having high mem and int. And don't argue any money bs, Eve isn't expensive. I'm on a **** poor income and can easily afford 2 accounts.
I'm ruining the game for you am I? Good. I await the contract with all your stuff.
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sorilin
Amarr Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.02 08:36:00 -
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alts will always be in the game HOWEVER! i like the idea about the names.. or a new sort of agent wich can track down the main of the acount... to many alts flaming etc.. would be nice to see who is needed to be killed and who is not!
there should be ways i fully agree! I am the borg! |

sorilin
Amarr Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.02 08:39:00 -
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also many keep saying alts on difrent acounts.. this isent correct....
EACH CARACTER PR ACOUNT IS 1 MAIN.
the alts are th eones you have on each acount wich are used to spam and stuff with... it is those i feel you should be able to track down to the main AND OR they shoul d have same family name I am the borg! |

ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.05.02 08:43:00 -
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surnames are all well and good, until a character is sold.
Assuming the name has to be changed to avoid confusing the people who need to know EXACTLY who's controlling a character in order to sleep soundly at night. how would you explain away the surname change - adoption? marriage? civil partnership?
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.02 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: Sen'ile ... if you stop smoking or stop drinking once a month...
BLASPHEMY !!! 
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Proud member of the !s I take no responsability for your paranoia ! This sig space is Read-only ! |

Khonsu
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Posted - 2007.05.02 09:23:00 -
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Alts keep EVE running.
Just forget about the alts discussion, it's way too late to make any changes at this point. Won't happen. Live with it or quit.
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Roshan longshot
Gallente Ordos Humanitas FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.02 10:53:00 -
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As long as there is empire griefing, ore thieves, and small cargo holds. There will be alts, and second accounts. And there is nothing you can do about it. CCP loves the money it generates, players that use them loves the idea they have them for whatever they use them for.
Oh you forgot, the people with 4-5 accounts and has'nt paid a single dime for them in a long time.
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter pirate or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box.
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Missy X
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Posted - 2007.05.02 11:03:00 -
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There are lots of really creative, fun uses for an alt which have nothing to do with gaining a tactical or monetary advantage, griefing, or any other such thing. I'd be sad if alts ever went away.
If nothing else, I enjoy alts simply because they annoy forum whiners.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.05.02 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kate Nexus
Originally by: Crumplecorn I've always considered it strange that people make a distinction between different groups of characters working together based on whether those characters are controlled by one person or multiple people
nobody plays the game to be a sacrificial scout for another player to travel through chokepoints. sorry but it just doesnt happen. this is a role reserved for alt accounts and is a big advantage. if anyone tried to take away my ability to use an alt account for scouting and metagaming I'd probably quit. I love blowing up a carebear and when they try to gatecamp me I can just use my alt to wait for a way out.
The reason it does not happen is because it is not fun, and people play for fun. This is a limitation of the fact that Eve is a game, a limitation which is removed by alts, who are generally characters to do the unfun stuff. Thus alts make the game world more realistic in this respect. How can that be metagaming?
And anyway, the fact that real people rarely scout doesn't change the fact that they can. Alts can't do anything real people can't do. They are simply an alternative to another real person helping you. It has no effect on the game, as the game cannot tell the difference. -
You keep using that word . . . I do not think it means what you think it means |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.02 11:15:00 -
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me and my alts does not endorse this thread.
Help me help you. |
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.05.02 11:16:00 -
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oops, posted with the wrong character :|
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Raaki
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.05.02 11:24:00 -
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I Pity the Fool with only one account :D
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Kate Nexus
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Posted - 2007.05.02 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Kate Nexus on 02/05/2007 12:04:02
Originally by: Crumplecorn How can that be metagaming?
because it is by definition. hey im all for it buddy. i love metagaming
Originally by: Crumplecorn And anyway, the fact that real people rarely scout doesn't change the fact that they can.
Incorrect. A person cannot scout for their own ship. They either fly their normal ship or they fly a scout ship, both is not possible.
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Sister 9
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.05.02 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ilkin Kaptan Edited by: Ilkin Kaptan on 30/04/2007 01:49:46 Edited by: Ilkin Kaptan on 30/04/2007 01:44:52 go away. . . seriously. . . just go. Go play WoW, stop posting this whiny stuff about alts.
i think the original poster made a reasonable proposition, using this kind of generic claptrap is just plain boring to read, and undermines your own arguments.
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr Hookers and Black Jack Flaming Hookers
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Posted - 2007.05.02 12:13:00 -
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Blah blah waffle waffle...
Who gives a flying turd about alts?
All games have them including WOW infact I know people who make a few extra dollars off of WOW by selling lvl 70 characters.
I have two accounts. BIG deal I say. i can only use one at a time . hmm yes I see your point NOT!.
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Pooka
Caldari United Space Aillance USA
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Posted - 2007.05.03 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kion TomB not long after Eve started stated CCP biggist mistake was in allowing alts, it distorts gameplay. They did not change it then and they are not gonna do in now! So don't bother crying about it 
Kion
 Can you back that statement up?? Where and when did he say that? Post or ... PROMISES MADE PROMISES KEPT WALK THE WALK AND TALK THE TALK
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Aindrias
Amarr Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.05.04 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Selnix
Originally by: Aindrias Edited by: Aindrias on 30/04/2007 18:50:37 To me, above all else, alts ruin the need for "corpmate" wtf? With 3 characters who need anyone else? You can.. uh.. go play with yourself...how Er33t are you then? This is the most damning thing of all about alts
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Conversely, having multiple accounts can also allow you to more fully take part in your corporation's activities. Say you have your main account trained for PVP and there is a corp mining op going... You gonna hop out there in a BS with T1 miners, or are you gonna log your alt in a covetor? Maybe your main is an industrialist that makes mods and such for the corp, but a corpmate comes under attack in the belts... Do you go to his aide in an iteron or do you log on your combat alt to kill them? Perhaps your main is sitting in empire with a full set of +5 implants in his head training battleship V and a corpmate needs someone to scout him into 0.0... Do you lemming-jump your main through gates in a frigate or do you log on your alt in a shuttle?
In all of the above cases, a person with only the main would be faced with a situation where non-participation is likely the best choice.
All your reasons to have an alts are so you can IMHO opinion.. avoid playing the game.
Can you... recruit someone to do all these things instead of having alts.... woooooow....
The "this is a combat alt so if I want to mine my stats aren't up to par" arguement doesn't work either. Over stacking your character on Perc and WP is your fault. Find a corpie to build/mine for/with you at a discount.
Alts to me ruin the Corp/Alliance system... who needs other people in this MMO when you can do all yourself?
See what you can do with Paintbrush? |

ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.05.09 14:28:00 -
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i'm a newbie and i have lots of fun.
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Angelina Starchild
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Posted - 2007.05.09 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kassidus
Another issue is with scamming, It seems every person in EVE has a Scaming alt now, if there were no alts there would be virtually now scamming in eve, you would scam someone and become instantly blackballed and eventually quit eve cause you wouldnt be able to do anything, but instead people just scam away and make more alts.
I've "scammed" and I've continued to play with the same character without any problems as when it comes to being blackballed. Sure, some people wont like you, but the majority doesn't seem to bother very much at all.
But I agree with you that it would be interesting and maybe even more fun to play with a single-character, the world would be very different and more 'out of the box' type of business ideas would work as to fill in the 'lack' of alts that would occur.
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CampyloBacter
Gallente Chlamydia Online
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Posted - 2007.05.09 15:11:00 -
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One Account, one character FTW!
Seems to me that those who feel such an urge to try and be so uber in this game by having three accounts, need to try making themselves a bit more uber in RL.
Some people's obsession with this game can't be healthy. It's a GAME FFS!
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Thesas
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.05.09 15:23:00 -
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If my mining and hauling ships were safe, I would not require an alt.
It is necessity that has my alt gun ship trailing along behind me on the nights I play without my friends..
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