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Claire Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.02 11:20:00 -
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My friend in Xetic told me how Stain have been killing a lot of Xetic Ark indies.
He also mentioned that two days ago they declared war on Stain, and are now the occupiers of Stain space due to their numbers.
Hearing tales of Xetic sending Evol home with their tails between their legs, and Xetic bursting through stains normal 2 or 3 defenders to rampage Stain.
Anyone in Xetic/Stain confirm this? Hows this work out with Curse? Will Xetic ally with them and boost both sides?
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.01.02 11:25:00 -
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Curse are respectfull of xetic's right to kick stains ass. We understand why they cannot allow the continued harbouring of pirates in stain. 
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Fenring
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Posted - 2004.01.02 11:25:00 -
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Ahh, Another alt trying to cause trouble.
I wonder which alliance this could be..........
"The enemy to be feared is the one who wears the face of a friend"
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Dukath
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Posted - 2004.01.02 11:38:00 -
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go easy on those drugs
DRUGS ARE BAD!
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.02 11:39:00 -
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Mom?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.01.02 11:40:00 -
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Mom?
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2004.01.02 11:42:00 -
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if she's yah mom....
can she make me some CAKE!!!
Julius ceaser : "operor vos volo MCCCXXXVII laganum bUBbLeS?"
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.02 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 02/01/2004 12:27:35
One Dimension-X special comin' up.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.01.02 13:06:00 -
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Edited by: Randuin MaraL on 02/01/2004 13:08:29
XETIC/ImmenseaFed. has a valid NAP with the Stain Alliance and neither SA leaders nor XETIC/ImmenseaFed. leaders have cancelled this NAP.
There has been no war declaration from neither side and I see no reason to declare war on the Stain Alliance.
And yes, I can speak for XETIC, so I do and you can quote me.
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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2004.01.02 16:27:00 -
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OH NO. De Calverts or multipling ta form a army dat shall crush us All!!!!
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.02 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Randuin MaraL on 02/01/2004 13:08:29
XETIC/ImmenseaFed. has a valid NAP with the Stain Alliance and neither SA leaders nor XETIC/ImmenseaFed. leaders have cancelled this NAP.
There has been no war declaration from neither side and I see no reason to declare war on the Stain Alliance.
And yes, I can speak for XETIC, so I do and you can quote me.
What is Xetic's stance on Evol officially?
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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XTrader
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Posted - 2004.01.02 17:01:00 -
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The XETIC Alliance / Immensea Federation will not attack Evolution. Of course we defend our ships if we are attacked.
To remain peace in the Area of Catch and Immensea the official standing is NAP.
The XETIC Alliance / Immensea Federation is not part of the conflict between SA and CA. We stay neutral.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.02 17:11:00 -
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The XETIC Alliance / Immensea Federation will not attack Evolution. Of course we defend our ships if we are attacked.
To remain peace in the Area of Catch and Immensea the official standing is NAP.
The XETIC Alliance / Immensea Federation is not part of the conflict between SA and CA. We stay neutral.
Hmm the indy u took out last night doesn't count huh?
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Hiyo Silver
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Posted - 2004.01.02 17:25:00 -
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A corp known to be members of SA have been podding members of a corp known to be members of Xetic. Right now it only translates to animosity between those 2 corps, but in the future that could spread.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.01.02 17:27:00 -
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if she's yah mom....
can she make me some CAKE!!!
or bake us all cookies.
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.01.02 17:38:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 02/01/2004 17:43:48
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The XETIC Alliance / Immensea Federation will not attack Evolution. Of course we defend our ships if we are attacked.
To remain peace in the Area of Catch and Immensea the official standing is NAP.
The XETIC Alliance / Immensea Federation is not part of the conflict between SA and CA. We stay neutral.
Hmm the indy u took out last night doesn't count huh?
Incidents have happened between several Xetic and several SA corps. Resulting in ship losses
on both sides. But there is now a cease fire in force between SA and Xetic.
A discussion on the stance of Evol and our opinion of that has been held here as well.
You have told us you are not part of SA, that we have no NAP with Evol, and that you reserve the right to destroy anyone that does not actively oppose Curse Alliance while in Catch and surrounding regions. In short: you will not respect our neutrality.
Well, we let it be known we do not oppose either Stain, CA or any other for that matter, as we are and will remain neutral until forced to choose.
Search this forum and you will see what i have stated on anyone forcing Xetic to choose sides in any conflict.
You have your answer.
P.S. I do not represent Xetic officially. As opposed to either Xtrader or Randuin, whom both can be taken as speaking for the Alliance, short of declaring war and suchlike.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.02 17:43:00 -
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The XETIC Alliance / Immensea Federation will not attack Evolution. Of course we defend our ships if we are attacked.
To remain peace in the Area of Catch and Immensea the official standing is NAP.
The XETIC Alliance / Immensea Federation is not part of the conflict between SA and CA. We stay neutral.
Hmm the indy u took out last night doesn't count huh?
Incidents have happened between several Xetic and several SA corps. Resulting in ship losses
on both sides. But there is now a cease fire in force between SA and Xetic.
A discussion on the stance of Evol and our opinion of that has been held here as well.
You have told us you are not part of SA, that we have no NAP with Evol, and that you reserve the right to destroy anyone that does not actively oppose Curse Alliance while in Catch and surrounding regions. In short: you will not respect our neutrality.
Well, we let it be known we do not oppose either Stain, CA or any other for that matter, as we are and will remain neutral until forced to choose.
Search this forum and you will see what i have stated on anyone forcing Xetic to choose sides in any conflict.
You have your answer.
P.S. I do not represent Xetic officially. As opposed to either Xtrader or Randuin, whom both can be taken as speaking for the Alliance.
AH. I see. Neutral means blowing up indy's. OK. (Considers how many xetic ships he has ignored-and given a "wave" to while on military ops in curse)
Thanks for making things so clear.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.01.02 18:43:00 -
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"i won't even address the rather astonishing statement made about Evol privately leaning on Xetic with some skullduggery about 'you have a NAP with Stain but not us - you're with us or against us muahaha lolz0rz' and instead talk about 'waving' to prove i'm some kinda nice fella who believes in cake and ice cream for everyone and we've been terribly wronged."
Got nothing to say about that "we're not SA so there's no NAP," huh?
Are you prepared to say right now that there is nothing binding you from attacking anyone in Xetic or thereabouts except your own cheerful good nature? That you have nothing to do with SA policy and anyone who has an agreement with SA doesn't have one with you? And that you reserve the right to attack anyone who doesn't actively attack the CA?
I'm sorry. You're right. You aren't pirates. You're thugs and extortionists. And lousy ones at that 
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.01.02 19:12:00 -
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The XETIC Alliance / Immensea Federation will not attack Evolution. Of course we defend our ships if we are attacked.
To remain peace in the Area of Catch and Immensea the official standing is NAP.
The XETIC Alliance / Immensea Federation is not part of the conflict between SA and CA. We stay neutral.
Hmm the indy u took out last night doesn't count huh?
Incidents have happened between several Xetic and several SA corps. Resulting in ship losses
on both sides. But there is now a cease fire in force between SA and Xetic.
A discussion on the stance of Evol and our opinion of that has been held here as well.
You have told us you are not part of SA, that we have no NAP with Evol, and that you reserve the right to destroy anyone that does not actively oppose Curse Alliance while in Catch and surrounding regions. In short: you will not respect our neutrality.
Well, we let it be known we do not oppose either Stain, CA or any other for that matter, as we are and will remain neutral until forced to choose.
Search this forum and you will see what i have stated on anyone forcing Xetic to choose sides in any conflict.
You have your answer.
P.S. I do not represent Xetic officially. As opposed to either Xtrader or Randuin, whom both can be taken as speaking for the Alliance.
AH. I see. Neutral means blowing up indy's. OK. (Considers how many xetic ships he has ignored-and given a "wave" to while on military ops in curse)
Thanks for making things so clear.
Well Prophet, i must say you make the first Evol member i see post at something aproaching normal adult way about this subject. Because of this I will answer you gladly.
If you have refrained from attacking Xetic in the past because you wished to honour our neutrality, i regret that Xetic is responsible for the destruction of a ship owned by one of your frineds.
However, since not all of Evolution seems to share your good sense of decency, and they destroyed several of our ships without any retaliation by us in the past, we have chosen not to let these actions slide any longer.
In order to make clear that Xetic has the power to actively engage any threat to our safety, we have chosen to behave like those that have attacked us in the past. The results are clear, several ships destroyed, Xetic incursions on SA territory and active defense of our territory.
Now, we have agreed with the more reasonable elements within the Stain Alliance (and hope to do the same with Evolution because we always strive for neutrality), that a cease fire will be held until further notice.
We will now no longer venture outside of our space to actively engage the corporations that have been disrespecting our neutrality before.
However, within Xetic/IF space we will still actively defend our assets, to show we will not be kicked around by pirates.
And for the record, before the bashing begins:
We are neutral to CA and CC too, and in NO WAY are actively affiliated with any other group or Alliance in EVE. So don't try to tell people we are supplying CA because we do not. We are neutral in your conflict.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.02 19:22:00 -
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Well Prophet, i must say you make the first Evol member i see post at something aproaching normal adult way about this subject. Because of this I will answer you gladly.
If you have refrained from attacking Xetic in the past because you wished to honour our neutrality, i regret that Xetic is responsible for the destruction of a ship owned by one of your frineds.
However, since not all of Evolution seems to share your good sense of decency, and they destroyed several of our ships without any retaliation by us in the past, we have chosen not to let these actions slide any longer.
In order to make clear that Xetic has the power to actively engage any threat to our safety, we have chosen to behave like those that have attacked us in the past. The results are clear, several ships destroyed, Xetic incursions on SA territory and active defense of our territory.
Now, we have agreed with the more reasonable elements within the Stain Alliance (and hope to do the same with Evolution because we always strive for neutrality), that a cease fire will be held until further notice.
We will now no longer venture outside of our space to actively engage the corporations that have been disrespecting our neutrality before.
However, within Xetic/IF space we will still actively defend our assets, to show we will not be kicked around by pirates.
And for the record, before the bashing begins:
We are neutral to CA and CC too, and in NO WAY are actively affiliated with any other group or Alliance in EVE. So don't try to tell people we are supplying CA because we do not. We are neutral in your conflict.
That's fine. Thanks for the straight answer. Just wanted to know what stance you were taking.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.02 19:57:00 -
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Edited by: ProphetGuru on 02/01/2004 20:00:55
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"i won't even address the rather astonishing statement made about Evol privately leaning on Xetic with some skullduggery about 'you have a NAP with Stain but not us - you're with us or against us muahaha lolz0rz' and instead talk about 'waving' to prove i'm some kinda nice fella who believes in cake and ice cream for everyone and we've been terribly wronged."
Got nothing to say about that "we're not SA so there's no NAP," huh?
Are you prepared to say right now that there is nothing binding you from attacking anyone in Xetic or thereabouts except your own cheerful good nature? That you have nothing to do with SA policy and anyone who has an agreement with SA doesn't have one with you? And that you reserve the right to attack anyone who doesn't actively attack the CA?
I'm sorry. You're right. You aren't pirates. You're thugs and extortionists. And lousy ones at that
Ah, BH. My favorite ex-slave. Leaning? Hardly. A simple question, asked and answered. Thugs... if you say so. Extortionist? Heh, buy a dictionary. In no way do we fit that definition, except perhaps, in your lil world.
The statement made saying we do not have a NAP with Xetic was made in response to claims that we broke a nap with em. That statement was an error, and was since corrected by the Xetic member who posted it. We were understandably confused how we broke something we didn't know existed.
We don't DO naps. Your agreement or disagreement on that policy isin't really relevant.
I am prepared to say that their is nothing binding me from attacking anything bar my good humor. Fortunately, I have a very good sense of humor
On SA policy, they do not control our actions, and we do not control theirs.
We reserve the right to do anything we wish.
We've never actively hunted Xetic. Our standing policy is to pretty much ignore them, even though we think it's pretty daft to run around in a warzone. I have let countless xetic indy's shuttles, bships etc pass unharmed, usually with a "Safe travels" in local to em. The only xetic ship I ever killed was some bbird, but the dude was shooting torps at me, so I felt pretty justified. I guess you, being the fine Oracle diplomat, woulda let them blow you up, then called a conference to discuss it.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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M Hoshi
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Posted - 2004.01.02 22:11:00 -
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Just to add a little to what Prophet has said above.
I was online last night when one of our members was alone (more fool him!) in Catch/Stain and was destroyed by an Xetic ship.
It was the first instance i've heard of Xetic openly agressing against Evolution, and since then their stance has interested me.
I'm not trying to defend us loosing an indy, he was lost to our own rules neutrals in a battlefield don't belong, thus dead.
As for somewhere I read on here about SA pulling our strings, or us pulling them, we are both seperate entities - we have no more influence over SA as we do over joe blogg noobie.
Evolution doesn't do NAPS, or Ceasefires or the like (we never have done) we generally side people into two groups, hostiles or non existant. At this present time Xetic falls in the latter group.
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.02 22:21:00 -
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i declare war on m hoshi
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.02 22:23:00 -
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Evolution doesn't do NAPS, or Ceasefires or the like (we never have done) we generally side people into two groups, hostiles or non existant. At this present time Xetic falls in the latter group.
Let us now spin that record 'Evolution are not pirates' again.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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M Hoshi
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Posted - 2004.01.02 22:37:00 -
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Let us now spin that record 'Evolution are not pirates' again.
If you insist my dear Skillz.
Grouping people in only two groups saves us from the hassle of asking 20 questions before we know whether to fire or not.
We make no secret that anyone in a warzone will be killed, regardless of whether you are considered neutral or hostile, make what you will of it, frankly we don't care.
Why am i explaining this to you? I'm not actually sure, i'm on a long journey and needed something to do.
I await your witty retort Skillz
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Estarriol
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Posted - 2004.01.03 02:16:00 -
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Edited by: Estarriol on 03/01/2004 02:24:58
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I await your witty retort Skillz
My friend, I fear that your wait shall be endless as the sea.
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olyyy
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Posted - 2004.01.03 04:10:00 -
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What a strange idea... a war between stain and xetic ? I mean... maybe xetics are feeling short of stations in immensea
Anyway... Xetic Alliance does not deserve any territory:
1/They have chosen the way of neutrality which is the way of weak people
2/they are just high security empire space miners who got lost in 0.0 thanks to their weak negociated neutrality
3/they do not control Immensea
4/Their Security Forces are incompetent
I also don't see why SA and CA are providing them so many advantages, while xetic is not providing them anything back... and are however making good profit from their so-called "territories".
I also don't understand how Evol can let itself threatened by a so weak alliance, more based on politicians than on fighters...
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.03 09:18:00 -
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Who feels threatened?
Hoshi.. the words witty and skillz should not be used in the same sentence.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.01.03 10:29:00 -
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What a strange idea... a war between stain and xetic ? I mean... maybe xetics are feeling short of stations in immensea
Anyway... Xetic Alliance does not deserve any territory:
1/They have chosen the way of neutrality which is the way of weak people
2/they are just high security empire space miners who got lost in 0.0 thanks to their weak negociated neutrality
3/they do not control Immensea
4/Their Security Forces are incompetent
I also don't see why SA and CA are providing them so many advantages, while xetic is not providing them anything back... and are however making good profit from their so-called "territories".
I also don't understand how Evol can let itself threatened by a so weak alliance, more based on politicians than on fighters...
Well olvyy, even tho we all know you i am still going to reply in a serious manner to your post. Why ? Dunno..
1) The way of neutralility is the way of the smart, not the weak. Our neutrality has made it possible for us to gain access to an area in which most dont dare venture because of the CA-SA war. How is that weak ?
2) Well, no reply to that. Can't really take that seriously.
3) We do control Immensea wenever we choose to. What your mistake is, is that we did not choose to control it in the manner you envision, restricitng access to non-members or non-neutrals. You try attacking our mining operation sometime, or ask others who did how they fared last week.
4) See above statement as this is really the same point.
What advantages do SA and CA provide us exactly ? They allow us to remain neutral in their conflict ? Well, we have shown them they have no choice, as we will turn against the one that tries forcing us into it.
Then why do they not simply run us out of Immensea ?
Because they can't anymore.
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.03 12:10:00 -
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olyyy, you wouldn't understand.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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