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Queen News
Gallente Queen News Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.03 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: WHOSYADADDY I dont know where you get that u were out numbered. We were the ones out numbered and we still went after you. And 2nd of all i see some of you are stating no lag. This was the worst lag ive seen in game for over 3 years ive been playing it. U can say what you want but all your heavy hitters were dead right off the bat. If it Wasnt for the 10-15 min lag spike (WE) all incountered , This would be you all dead instead of us. Always seems kind of funny when fighting BOB and BOBs main pets (MC) of course. They dont get lag but every 1 else Does.
ROFL. Is this not the approach ASCN took when they started to lose. BOB exploits, BoB gets no lag. Your Funny.
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laotse
Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:04:00 -
[182]
seeing axe along side bob still make me sick if you cant beat them join them bah http://80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: laotse seeing axe along side bob still make me sick if you cant beat them join them bah
I guess you missed a memo somewhere along the line.
BOB forced ASCN out of their space. AAA forced AXE out of their space. AXE != ASCN
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laotse
Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:10:00 -
[184]
and who are you ;p seeing old corp,s that hate bob from the groud up now fighting there war is sick http://80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:11:00 -
[185]
Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 03/05/2007 23:08:38
Originally by: Queen News
ROFL. Is this not the approach ASCN took when they started to lose. BOB exploits, BoB gets no lag. Your Funny.
Who gives a fk what you think...you are a 1 man alt corp bypassing forum rules
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=505447 I so wish CCP had had the nuts to enforce some of that
and btw ...it's you are..or you're. Freaky little alt kid
And MC..lay off Whosyadaddy, he has been here long enough to know what lag is.
Yes you killed a lot of caps, but have some respect. Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one |

Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: laotse seeing axe along side bob still make me sick if you cant beat them join them bah
We shot at BoB in support of ASCN. Then -A- appeared and took over our home. Given the choice of with whom to side, you'd pick the people who invaded your home?
If you can never shoot at anyone you've fought alongside, we can't shoot at: BoB (EC-P8R siege) GOON (Prohibition campaigns) IAC (Prohibition campaigns) Invictus (former ASCN) MC (fighting alongside them now, shot them during Prohibition) X-Traders (former XF) X-Pact (former AXE) etc., etc., etc.
What a ****ty game it would be at that point! It's a foolish man who walks into the future facing backwards.
--P
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w0rmy
Pringles Inc. YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar And MC..lay off Whosyadaddy, he has been here long enough to know what lag is.
Yes you killed a lot of caps, but have some respect.
Dude, its whoyadaddy throwing round the accusations of cheating.
I suggest you throw a 'Have some respect' his way.
Originally by: Dark Shikari The top dozen or so people in RA have quit their real-life jobs to "play" EVE. They are earning twice as much money now, roughly, as they did in their previous jobs.
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laotse
Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:16:00 -
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dont try to tell the rest you pick the good side pilk dont mather wich way you look at it axe shooting nothing beside bob still is a easy way out of it all  http://80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:18:00 -
[189]
Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 03/05/2007 23:15:26
Originally by: laotse and who are you ;p seeing old corp,s that hate bob from the groud up now fighting there war is sick
I suggest you check my emplloyment history in game, the hint I'll give you is I've been with AXE since we fought with BoB & Co over a year ago sieging G/IRON/TRUST 
Fact is we've had a long standing relationship with corps and members of BOB, in their great standings reset 10 months ago or so, we were no exception to this. We've been shooting D2 and their famed train since before D2 was D2, AXE was AXE, and ASCN was ASCN. So when the eve populace began beating their war drums, we wanted to join the party and shoot the same people we've been shooting for (quite literally) years. So Steel went and had a little chat with Molle, that went something along the lines of:
Steel Rat > hey, we're coing north to shoot at pinheads, can we have docking rights so we don't need to stage out of empire? Sir Molle > fo ****zle AXE Members > yaharrrr!!!!
And we all lived happily ever after. Once D2 is down for the count we'll be going elsewhere, doing our own thing, shooting at whatever we can lock onto. And it will be good.
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Mr Abbadon
Svea Rike
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:20:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Queen News
Originally by: WHOSYADADDY I dont know where you get that u were out numbered. We were the ones out numbered and we still went after you. And 2nd of all i see some of you are stating no lag. This was the worst lag ive seen in game for over 3 years ive been playing it. U can say what you want but all your heavy hitters were dead right off the bat. If it Wasnt for the 10-15 min lag spike (WE) all incountered , This would be you all dead instead of us. Always seems kind of funny when fighting BOB and BOBs main pets (MC) of course. They dont get lag but every 1 else Does.
ROFL. Is this not the approach ASCN took when they started to lose. BOB exploits, BoB gets no lag. Your Funny.
If you only knew.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 03/05/2007 23:21:05
Originally by: w0rmy
Dude, its whoyadaddy throwing round the accusations of cheating.
I suggest you throw a 'Have some respect' his way.
ok...that alt made me cranky I would never accuse MC of cheating (my opinion about an alliance whos moniker begins with the greek letter beta is well known )
Having said that, my point was, when he says he had bad lag...then you can believe that he did.
No accusations thrown, other than to CCP for messing up again.
PS: even though I was cryptic in my cheating ref...I expect it will still be snipped by an alliance alt )
If CCP has a sense of humour, it may remain
Edit: Battle was won by MC and friends....we all know that, ...1 man alt corps can SUCK MY...KISS 
Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one |

laotse
Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:25:00 -
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Edited by: laotse on 03/05/2007 23:24:35 i dont change a thing atm you helping already the strongst group in eve if you think that,s the the way to go forwart we are not on the same lvl and that,s a pitty and for the rest all of eve is bob sick hearing or reading about them http://80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: laotse Edited by: laotse on 03/05/2007 23:24:35 i dont change a thing atm you helping already the strongst group in eve if you think that,s the the way to go forwart we are not on the same lvl and that,s a pitty and for the rest all of eve is bob sick hearing or reading about them
You can look at it one of two ways:
1) We're helping BOB 2) We're shooting D2
No matter who comes out the victor in this conflict, we win. Our goal in Coming north was not to secure space, nor to help assure a BOB victory. We came here to discharge munitions and nothing more, in a sense we won on our first day on the field. We have no real investment in this war beside the ships we undock in, if all is lost, our large assets are still safely tucked away in empire and we've lost nothing more than the ships that were shot down; we have no POS's, no sovereignity, no outposts, and we don't want it. We're not out to carve a chunk of space for ourselves, we're out to produce killmails. That's sort of our thing these days, comparable to nomdas, we lost our space and have never looked back. We go where the targets are, fighting offensively is a lot more fun than fighting defensively ever could be. At 1/3 our size a year ago, with no claimed space, we're doing better than ever and having more fun than most of us can recall in Eve.
When this is over with and we've gone elsewhere, I'm sure there will be another person somewhere, just like you, crying foul because we're shooting them and not ______________
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: laotse Edited by: laotse on 03/05/2007 23:24:35 i dont change a thing atm you helping already the strongst group in eve if you think that,s the the way to go forwart we are not on the same lvl and that,s a pitty and for the rest all of eve is bob sick hearing or reading about them
NSA Bivas? Is that you?
Pretty much all of 0.0 is either on the side of the Alliance or the Coalition right now. Does this mean you'd rather have COAD exclusively be the discussion of wars conducted between mining corps in Jita? I'm not sure what other battles there are to write about.
This is the SECOND BIGGEST CAPITAL SHIP LOSS EVER. If this doesn't deserve a non-alt, non-flaming battle report post... nothing does.
--P
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:51:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Pilk
This is the SECOND BIGGEST CAPITAL SHIP LOSS EVER. If this doesn't deserve a non-alt, non-flaming battle report post... nothing does.
--P
hey Pilk mate, if it helps, your report was pretty good, and contained no flame.
Ignore the "News" alts, and the spectators.
(only slight alteration I would make, is that the battle field was roughly equal. You did not fight outnumbered ...sorry to bring that up again, but at end of day..you guys came out on top ) Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one |

doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:54:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Pilk
This is the SECOND BIGGEST CAPITAL SHIP LOSS EVER. If this doesn't deserve a non-alt, non-flaming battle report post... nothing does.
--P
hey Pilk mate, if it helps, your report was pretty good, and contained no flame.
Ignore the "News" alts, and the spectators.
(only slight alteration I would make, is that the battle field was roughly equal. You did not fight outnumbered ...sorry to bring that up again, but at end of day..you guys came out on top )
ORLY? where, pray tell, was our 50 man support fleet of equal numbers?
Towards the end of the slugfest we had roughly equal numbers of capitals on the field, initally outnumbered in capitals until our reinforcements made an appeareance, and no support leaving us 50 pilots short of equal numbers.
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e3joker
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:55:00 -
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Edited by: e3joker on 03/05/2007 23:52:57 Edited by: e3joker on 03/05/2007 23:52:02 50 or so in local before the hostile fleet jumped in......115, 120, 130(?) after hostile fleet jumps in. several minutes later local is down to 103 or so, I'm sure around the time hostile caps bailed. even numbers LOL!!!
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.03 23:58:00 -
[198]
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Towards the end of the slugfest we had roughly equal numbers of capitals on the field, initally outnumbered in capitals until our reinforcements made an appeareance, and no support leaving us 50 pilots short of equal numbers.
Dude, lets not go back to smack...but RLY?
do you think support ships can break a MS tank 
Since when does support effect a capital slug fest
Get a grip...chk your own stats. Count the MS you had. You won that fight, what more do you want? Facts are..you had more capitals.
Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one |

doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.04 00:02:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Towards the end of the slugfest we had roughly equal numbers of capitals on the field, initally outnumbered in capitals until our reinforcements made an appeareance, and no support leaving us 50 pilots short of equal numbers.
Dude, lets not go back to smack...but RLY?
do you think support ships can break a MS tank 
Since when does support effect a capital slug fest
Get a grip...chk your own stats. Count the MS you had. You won that fight, what more do you want? Facts are..you had more capitals.
I'm not debating capital numbers. I'm debating the huge discrepency in claimed equal fleet sizes. So capitals were within 1 ship of equal numbers once all were on the field, yes? You mean to tell me circa 30 battleships and 20 smaller ships vs a support fleet numbering barely a dozen played no role in this? Sure, because as we all know, 50 support and 30 capitals are fully helpless at the hands of a mothership.
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Juha85
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.05.04 00:04:00 -
[200]
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Towards the end of the slugfest we had roughly equal numbers of capitals on the field, initally outnumbered in capitals until our reinforcements made an appeareance, and no support leaving us 50 pilots short of equal numbers.
Dude, lets not go back to smack...but RLY?
do you think support ships can break a MS tank 
Since when does support effect a capital slug fest
Get a grip...chk your own stats. Count the MS you had. You won that fight, what more do you want? Facts are..you had more capitals.
I'm not debating capital numbers. I'm debating the huge discrepency in claimed equal fleet sizes. So capitals were within 1 ship of equal numbers once all were on the field, yes? You mean to tell me circa 30 battleships and 20 smaller ships vs a support fleet numbering barely a dozen played no role in this? Sure, because as we all know, 50 support and 30 capitals are fully helpless at the hands of a mothership.
I dont exactly know... but arent a support fleet of 50 capable of putting out quite good dps and actually would do something in a capital fight. That is if they dont get dd'd or such. Ofcourse if its 50 frigs... :) |
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laotse
Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.04 00:06:00 -
[201]
lets see how your nutral aproce help,s eve when your done with d2  http://80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg
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Tomas Ysidro
Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.04 00:08:00 -
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Doctor, stop living up to your name and give it a rest.
The support fleet that arrived really didn't seem to affect things too much. 6 bs's lit up my dread for a while for effectively no damage, and it seemed that the support fleet in general really wasn't accomplishing much with the exception of nuking fighters. I know a few of our own support got dropped by them but as said before we didn't have a whole lot of support there anyways.
So all in all, the numbers argument pretty much goes for the capships, as those were the types that were really doing the fighting. D2 et al started off outnumbering us (just barely) but when we jumped in our reserve the numbers appeared to be about even. Again, that's capships only.
All in all, props to the Northerners for bringing it. The whole lag issue confuses me, because not a single one of us on teamspeak ever encountered any lag.
~Ysiddy
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.04 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Juha85 I dont exactly know... but arent a support fleet of 50 capable of putting out quite good dps and actually would do something in a capital fight. That is if they dont get dd'd or such. Ofcourse if its 50 frigs... :)
We nuked a carrier with about 22 frigs and 2 cruisers, but that's irrelevant since as has been established apparently, support ships are incapable of doing enough damage to warrant a capital so much as activating hardeners.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.04 00:08:00 -
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Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 04/05/2007 00:12:38
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Towards the end of the slugfest we had roughly equal numbers of capitals on the field, initally outnumbered in capitals until our reinforcements made an appeareance, and no support leaving us 50 pilots short of equal numbers.
Dude, lets not go back to smack...but RLY?
do you think support ships can break a MS tank 
Since when does support effect a capital slug fest
Get a grip...chk your own stats. Count the MS you had. You won that fight, what more do you want? Facts are..you had more capitals.
I'm not debating capital numbers. I'm debating the huge discrepency in claimed equal fleet sizes. So capitals were within 1 ship of equal numbers once all were on the field, yes? You mean to tell me circa 30 battleships and 20 smaller ships vs a support fleet numbering barely a dozen played no role in this? Sure, because as we all know, 50 support and 30 capitals are fully helpless at the hands of a mothership.
I am sure you want to b!tch me, because I am the enemy...but 30 BS! are you kidding? You won the fight on your capital strength.
Edit: Thank you Tomas from MC
and of course support can take down a solo carrier..I have done it myself many times...but try a dread in seige...or several carriers repping each other.
Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one |

doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.04 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tomas Ysidro Doctor, stop living up to your name and give it a rest.
oh SNAP! 
fine, I'll go back to fighting in game instead of on the forums :P
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Sivona
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.04 00:38:00 -
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i would say the support fleet seemed distinctly effective - so much nos/neuts on me i was struggling to keep my dcu online, i gave quite early on trying to keep the armour hards online 
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Tomas Ysidro
Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.04 00:41:00 -
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I remembered most of the support being at long range, might have been the carriers that were nos/neuting. Of course, just about anything could have been happening under that mass of fighters :)
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Audri Fisher
Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.04 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: Juha85
Originally by: GreatNick Once again Selene you missed the point. You did not fight undernumbered, you had more capitals attacking than D2 and company. And local did not spike till the battle was nearly over the D2's support gang arrived 10 minutes late. I really could care less about D2 at this point, that is why I left the north, but at least get your numbers right in regards to the amount of capitals you used.
So basicaly you are saying you know better? Seleene was there, u wasnt.
I was there, the support fleet was bottle up one jump out because of Chowdown. Only reason the support fleet went in is because the IRON FC decided to leroy to come to the aid of the IRON cap ships. Chowdown was apparently afk.
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Prophet Malcalypse3
Amarr Her Golden Apple Corps
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Posted - 2007.05.04 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Tomas Ysidro Doctor, stop living up to your name and give it a rest.
The support fleet that arrived really didn't seem to affect things too much. 6 bs's lit up my dread for a while for effectively no damage, and it seemed that the support fleet in general really wasn't accomplishing much with the exception of nuking fighters. I know a few of our own support got dropped by them but as said before we didn't have a whole lot of support there anyways.
So all in all, the numbers argument pretty much goes for the capships, as those were the types that were really doing the fighting. D2 et al started off outnumbering us (just barely) but when we jumped in our reserve the numbers appeared to be about even. Again, that's capships only.
All in all, props to the Northerners for bringing it. The whole lag issue confuses me, because not a single one of us on teamspeak ever encountered any lag.
~Ysiddy
even assuming even cap numbers...i heard d2 jumped in within 10km of your fleet, with blaster and closerange capital fittings, and all nos on the carriers. vs an even number fleet with normal anti pos fittings, with titan and support fleet, you had the upper hand. unless that post on page 1 is faulty. if it is, my bad
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.04 01:03:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Pilk
This is the SECOND BIGGEST CAPITAL SHIP LOSS EVER. If this doesn't deserve a non-alt, non-flaming battle report post... nothing does.
--P
hey Pilk mate, if it helps, your report was pretty good, and contained no flame.
Ignore the "News" alts, and the spectators.
Thanks, and done, respectively. At least, I'm trying. 
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar (only slight alteration I would make, is that the battle field was roughly equal. You did not fight outnumbered ...sorry to bring that up again, but at end of day..you guys came out on top )
I chose the wording pretty carefully, tbh. At the time the hostile capitals jumped in, and at the time we docked up, reloaded, and arranged for backup, we were outnumbered. Now, keep in mind I was writing this while still very unsure of all the numbers involved; I posted the only information I was certain of, which was that we were outnumbered THEN. I'm sorry if I didn't make it more clear that we weren't outnumbered afterwards, but I actually didn't know whether or not that was the case when I was writing the post. Also:
Originally by: Prophet Malcalypse3 even assuming even cap numbers...i heard d2 jumped in within 10km of your fleet, with blaster and closerange capital fittings, and all nos on the carriers. vs an even number fleet with normal anti pos fittings, with titan and support fleet, you had the upper hand. unless that post on page 1 is faulty. if it is, my bad
I can't help but feel this is pretty accurate. You had gank, close-range fittings, NOS/neut-fitted carriers, a Titan, and 50+ support. I honestly believe that if those four carriers hadn't jumped out, I would've been writing a battle report about a large loss. Maybe that's just me being nanve, though.
I'd rather not update the "heart", so to speak, of the battle report. But I'll link to this from the OP.
--P
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