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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.03 11:50:00 -
[91]
Nice report Pilk, very good read 
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DSFKKKK
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Posted - 2007.05.03 11:54:00 -
[92]
Great job. Next time i donŠt go to bed at 1.00 am eve Time .
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Blaxi
Amarr
SteelVipers
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.05.03 11:54:00 -
[93]
Great job. Next time i donŠt go to bed at 1.00 am eve Time .
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sliver 0xD
Cosmic Odyssey
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.05.03 11:55:00 -
[94]
after shooting about 15 poses the friendly forces only were left with the hard core adicts, the 12 dreads where we started shooting the pos with, were not the carebear nubs d2 and co expected :)
i was there :) sorry for those who lost there dreads, thanks for the great fight.
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.03 12:06:00 -
[95]
 Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Really dude, why do you bother? We all know your BoB history and every time you post on these forums all you do is spitting all over the place and acting like many of the BoB members before the forum silence.
It seems you're still on BoB's side. They chose forum silence. You want to do them a favor? Start behaving like they do, but until that we have here the raw BoB member at its best forum whoring.
It was a nice fight with losers and winners. Some have facts to discuss and share, but all you do is barking...
You do nothing then troll all day, and you say others do nothing else then bark? Barking dogs never bite, and that's RAZOR for you.
I don't know the meaning that you give to "troll", but it has exactly zero to do with what I do or RZR does. Check the killmails on those MC dreads than got destroyed. You'll discover a bitting dog. Ha-ha. I wasn't there, I couldn't, but RZR was. Gratz to them for being there for a friend in need.
Btw, you really have some nerve to talk to someone else about trolling, considering what you do. Grow some and log your main when posting in here.
Cheers to all involve in the actual fights IG, tough luck for D2.
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Weka Dart
Caldari
Band of Sisters
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Posted - 2007.05.03 12:06:00 -
[96]
I lol'd all the way through my morning lecture.
So where is the north planning on relocating to, when our mercs and their old friends have booted them out??
Where will emily relocate to, if she still lives.
Remember what happened in ec- last time.
Tick Tock.
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Indiano Arko
Elite Storm Enterprises
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.05.03 12:10:00 -
[97]
Nice report and very well executed battle! 07 MC, Axe, -Y- and other involved.
Not sure if was mentioned early that day The Foundation Phoenix was caught on undock point in 0-2 by combined gang of ESA and Vigilance and turned into wreck after about 20-30 minutes with little to no resist from FLA and The Foundation. Mad props to The Foundation guy who undocked twice in a battleship trying to help his mate o7
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Kaula
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Posted - 2007.05.03 12:17:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Kaula on 03/05/2007 12:13:55
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Kaulu
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Posted - 2007.05.03 12:18:00 -
[99]
Great Report Pilk!
And very good job to all the involved :)
Thanks to D2&co for do something more than POS spam, thats really boring guys! keep the effort to make this war interesting!
I was in the operations, most of the support fleet became exhausted after so many hours of POS KIlling, so i lost my chance to be in that final big battle!
That's the way we will follow until the end, fight, fight, and fight until the last ship we have to destroy you guys :) (D2&co).
Keep the good work!
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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.03 12:31:00 -
[100]
It seems a lot of people here know about this who weren't there. 
On "the Lag" - as soon as the fight was finished and we cleared up our losses, I asked about lag. A couple of our guys had to relog in the fight but no one reported anything at all crippling. I was running a mothership and a dread for the entire fight and my module lag was virtually non-existent. One of our guys was running three accounts in the system plus a fourth as an emergency cyno out mid-way through and he was fine as well.
A few have said that when the DD went off from Janus Drake that things started going bad for D2 and friends due to lag. That DD went off early in the battle and I just thought the bright flash was another cap ship exploding. The only reason I knew it was a DD was because I had to launch more fighters. 
They outnumbered us in every respect. They had significantly more dreads and a much much larger support fleet. My 'Dreads & Carriers' overview setting was pretty damn sobering. My 'BS & Larger' setting had my "Oh ****!" sensor blinking.
They had a titan and they used it. It is debatable if Janus DD'd too early or not but when it went off it cleared the field of dozens of fighters and drones from both sides. Oh and, near as I can tell, once again Janus set his DD off on grid with none of that 'remote' stuff. 
Local peaked on my screen at 142. About five minutes after the last ship exploded and we started cynoing out our dreads leaving siege, local was around 50.
Call it luck, skill or a cosmic burp of fate, we should of got spanked and we didn't. It takes serious balls to jump in on an enemy cap ship fleet and hit that siege button. It takes an equal amount of balls to leave that button alone and stay in siege when your overview is solid red.
Instead of all the outside opinions, I'd love to see a write up from the other side describing what their thoughts were going into it, during and afterwards. Local was smack-free and actually very pleasant. This kind of fight doesn't happen often and those of us who were there have massive respect to anyone who participated. Thanks for a memorable, if sleepless, night D2 and friends. 
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GreatNick
Caldari
KNIGHTS OF RYCHE
Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.05.03 12:42:00 -
[101]
Once again Selene you missed the point. You did not fight undernumbered, you had more capitals attacking than D2 and company. And local did not spike till the battle was nearly over the D2's support gang arrived 10 minutes late. I really could care less about D2 at this point, that is why I left the north, but at least get your numbers right in regards to the amount of capitals you used.
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Juha85
Beasts of Burden
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.05.03 12:49:00 -
[102]
Originally by: GreatNick
Once again Selene you missed the point. You did not fight undernumbered, you had more capitals attacking than D2 and company. And local did not spike till the battle was nearly over the D2's support gang arrived 10 minutes late. I really could care less about D2 at this point, that is why I left the north, but at least get your numbers right in regards to the amount of capitals you used.
So basicaly you are saying you know better? Seleene was there, u wasnt.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.03 12:51:00 -
[103]
Originally by: GreatNick
Once again Selene you missed the point. You did not fight undernumbered, you had more capitals attacking than D2 and company. And local did not spike till the battle was nearly over the D2's support gang arrived 10 minutes late. I really could care less about D2 at this point, that is why I left the north, but at least get your numbers right in regards to the amount of capitals you used.
My numbers are fine, m8. AFAIK, we jumped in two motherships and one carrier right as the fight began and an additional four carriers and two dreads about two-thirds of the way through. Of course it's possible that we ended up with more of a certain ship type near the end.
My side can estimate and post all day about this, but I am sure that most of us would like to see one of the D2 FC's who was there speak up and clarify things. What cap ships did they jump in with? What did they have left when the fight was over? Who was their support commander and what did they bring? What was their original plan? Was this a spur of the moment op or something alarm clocks were set for?
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Phoenix Pryde
Caldari
3-I Area 42
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Posted - 2007.05.03 12:56:00 -
[104]
lol at all you guys argueing about who had more numbers, next to the fact that it doesnt really matters all you d have to do is take a look at for example D2's killboard.
But to save you all that work i put my my nber maths skills to work and added them up 
D2/IRON/RZR/Sparta: 1 Titan, 12 DNs, 5 CAs (and some small stuff)
AXE/MC/Y: 2 MS, 15 DNs, 9 CAs
The total involved numbers say 32:33 which looks pretty even :P
I guess some ppl might be missing due to truncated mails, etc ... but it cant be that far off 
that said, entertaining read .. 
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 13:03:00 -
[105]
Sounds like fun of a sort I guess. Nice report.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.03 13:04:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Seleene
My side can estimate and post all day about this, but I am sure that most of us would like to see one of the D2 FC's who was there speak up and clarify things. What cap ships did they jump in with? What did they have left when the fight was over? Who was their support commander and what did they bring? What was their original plan? Was this a spur of the moment op or something alarm clocks were set for?
Originally by: from Someone who was there
We all fought very hard and thanks to everyone who came. The Numbers were even...
After the DD by our Titan. 6 dreads locked up to where they never got a rep in! Until then we had the advanatage.
All of there Phenoix's were down and Nag's They had no close range damage left. We had the upper hand. 3 Phoenix and 2 Moros never repped. Those were blaster moros and Caldari Dreads. We were 10K from them. If we were aloud to turn on our gun's I bet about 2 to three more mabye if the whole fleet might have gone down. Stuff happens and it is just a game. Guess what I think we all had fun again tongiht.
Hope that clears thing up a bit for you...some lag some uresponsive ships, but generally a feeling of good fight.
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Sivona
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.03 13:06:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Phoenix Pryde
lol at all you guys argueing about who had more numbers, next to the fact that it doesnt really matters all you d have to do is take a look at for example D2's killboard.
But to save you all that work i put my my nber maths skills to work and added them up
D2/IRON/RZR/Sparta: 1 Titan, 12 DNs, 5 CAs (and some small stuff)
AXE/MC/Y: 2 MS, 15 DNs, 9 CAs
The total involved numbers say 32:33 which looks pretty even :P
I guess some ppl might be missing due to truncated mails, etc ... but it cant be that far off
that said, entertaining read ..
D2 alone had 12 dreads - we knew about this group, it was the sparta/FLA group who we did not know about they were fielding at least 18-20 dreads, if nothing else your maths is concerning as you state 12 dreads on the coalition side when 13 were killed...i'm not really sure how you reached that figure.
As for out numbers when the engagement started we had 12 dreads.
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Kaulu
Caldari
Princeps Corp
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.05.03 13:07:00 -
[108]
well my post was deleted
I just want to say that good work for everyone :)
For YouWhat and MC guys to have the patience for a boring kill spam pos operation :)
and then have brilliant commanders and tactics to surprise our enemies.
And for D2 and co for being brave to make something different to a pos spam that is really boring and kills the game in my opinion.
I was in the that operation as a support bs and it was so boring but when we heared that first DD's trap was so great :) I felt asleep finally and go to sleep so I lost the chance to see that big final battle!
Keep the good work guys! We will fight until the end and the last of our ships :)
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GreatNick
Caldari
KNIGHTS OF RYCHE
Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.05.03 13:09:00 -
[109]
Edited by: GreatNick on 03/05/2007 13:05:22
Originally by: Phoenix Pryde
lol at all you guys argueing about who had more numbers, next to the fact that it doesnt really matters all you d have to do is take a look at for example D2's killboard.
But to save you all that work i put my my nber maths skills to work and added them up
D2/IRON/RZR/Sparta: 1 Titan, 12 DNs, 5 CAs (and some small stuff)
AXE/MC/Y: 2 MS, 15 DNs, 9 CAs
The total involved numbers say 32:33 which looks pretty even :P
I guess some ppl might be missing due to truncated mails, etc ... but it cant be that far off
Glad you took the time to show the numbers, 17 capitals all of which were lost by D2 and the 26 capitals of MC and company.
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Farham
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.03 13:09:00 -
[110]
I guess the biggest lesson out of all of this is let your capitals get their mods on before Lagsday bombing the enemy fighters.
Really sucks losing ships because you couldn't turn mods on.
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Draxxxion
GIT-R-DUN
Southern Connection
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Posted - 2007.05.03 13:12:00 -
[111]
Originally by: GreatNick
Once again Selene you missed the point. You did not fight undernumbered, you had more capitals attacking than D2 and company. And local did not spike till the battle was nearly over the D2's support gang arrived 10 minutes late. I really could care less about D2 at this point, that is why I left the north, but at least get your numbers right in regards to the amount of capitals you used.
You have no point.
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Laboratus
Gallente
BGG
League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.05.03 13:15:00 -
[112]
Sounds like fun.
I sure hope all the big fights weren't at such odd hours...
Nothing ever happens when I'm on:P
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P.S.
Post with your main.
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Sivona
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.03 13:17:00 -
[113]
Originally by: GreatNick
Edited by: GreatNick on 03/05/2007 13:07:29
Originally by: Phoenix Pryde
lol at all you guys argueing about who had more numbers, next to the fact that it doesnt really matters all you d have to do is take a look at for example D2's killboard.
But to save you all that work i put my my nber maths skills to work and added them up
D2/IRON/RZR/Sparta: 1 Titan, 12 DNs, 5 CAs (and some small stuff)
AXE/MC/Y: 2 MS, 15 DNs, 9 CAs
The total involved numbers say 32:33 which looks pretty even :P
I guess some ppl might be missing due to truncated mails, etc ... but it cant be that far off
Glad you took the time to show the numbers, 17 capitals all of which were lost by D2/Sparta and the 26 capitals of MC and company.
Please read up, coalition lost more ships (as in confirmed killmails) than was stated as their fleet here. Maths appears to have gone somewhat wrong :) - dont trust killboards for accuracy :)
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.03 13:22:00 -
[114]
Originally by: GreatNick
Glad you took the time to show the numbers, 17 capitals all of which were lost by D2/Sparta and the 26 capitals of MC and company.
Glad Flinx Evenstar cleared up this whole issue for you.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.03 13:26:00 -
[115]
Good job guys! Keep up the good work.
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Zlake
Lynx Frontier Inc.
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.03 13:49:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Sivona
Originally by: Phoenix Pryde
lol at all you guys argueing about who had more numbers, next to the fact that it doesnt really matters all you d have to do is take a look at for example D2's killboard.
But to save you all that work i put my my nber maths skills to work and added them up
D2/IRON/RZR/Sparta: 1 Titan, 12 DNs, 5 CAs (and some small stuff)
AXE/MC/Y: 2 MS, 15 DNs, 9 CAs
The total involved numbers say 32:33 which looks pretty even :P
I guess some ppl might be missing due to truncated mails, etc ... but it cant be that far off
that said, entertaining read ..
D2 alone had 12 dreads - we knew about this group, it was the sparta/FLA group who we did not know about they were fielding at least 18-20 dreads, if nothing else your maths is concerning as you state 12 dreads on the coalition side when 13 were killed...i'm not really sure how you reached that figure.
As for out numbers when the engagement started we had 12 dreads.
Sparta/FLA did not field 18-20 dreads....lol....I know because I had to leave due to gf aggro.
Beyond that...and not trying to flame...after looking at the killboard, and I know 2 of ours aren't posted yet, it looks like MC and friends had more firepower according to our KB:
d2 & friends: 12 dreads shown (pretty sure 13 went down though)
5 carriers shown (give or take 1-2)
and the titan
MC & friends: 15 dreads shown
9 carriers and 2 moms
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I can say the Sparta numbers are exactly whats shown on our killboard minus 2 dread losses that haven't got posted yet (no idea why). FLA brought 1 dread only and that I am 99% sure of as I chatted with the guy after words.
Our support fleet had no losses as you were concentrating on the cap fleet (rightly so).
With our support fleet we def. should have killed more caps......dunno there. Lag wasn't horrible but I know a few dreads couldn't do anything after the DD but not a majority of them.
So congrats to MC. Was a goodfight and we should have killed more. Let's do it again in about 10 days .
If there are any innacuracies that you can prove in my post mail me and it will get changed...otherwise don't flame and don't post if you don't have any clue.
Zlake
Lynx CEO
SPARTA
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GreatNick
Caldari
KNIGHTS OF RYCHE
Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.05.03 13:54:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: GreatNick
Glad you took the time to show the numbers, 17 capitals all of which were lost by D2/Sparta and the 26 capitals of MC and company.
Glad Flinx Evenstar cleared up this whole issue for you.
The numbers posted are still accurate, Flix showed at least some validity to the lag post I made.
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:12:00 -
[118]
Seleene you seem to make a habit of killing me with your officer smartbomb. 
Anyways I had fun and I will be back for more
Originally by: Rawne Karrde
PVP in EvE is consentual, you agree to it when you login. If you don't like it you're in the wrong game.
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Darth Sith
Lacedaemon.
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:16:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Darth Sith on 03/05/2007 14:15:37
First, As commander of the Spartan forces in theater, I offer a GF to all parties involved! That was a great slugfest with a crystal clear local channel. Thankyou for the memorable end to a rather ordinary day :)
Seleene - nothing but respect for you and your crew, once again you showed professionalism on the field and an the nads to jump whatever is nessesary onto the battlefield! And quite honestly I really couldn't care less if you are in the war on a contract or by your accord :)
D2 / FLA / SPR / IRON US TZ crew - props to you, my teammates that had the nads to hit the jummp button to start this adventure :)
As any who have read my posts in the past, I just lay it out plain and simple without the political FUD.
This is the way it shaped up ..
Just after logging on I got the call that there was an opportunity to take a poke at MC. We formed up in ROIR and waited ...
Our eyes on the tower showed the MC dread fleet approach the tower and we undocked the dreads .. a moment later the MC capitals left the tower .. we thought the cat was out of the bag and we began an idle chatter on the ts .. some of our dread pilots logged or got wife-aggro'd and we figured the night was done ..
Then they came back .. TS buzzed .. guys this might happen .. but they are not in siege mode ! .. we wait .. they in siege yet ? .. no .. not yet ? ... no .. wtf ? .. then Janus comes on and says . dudes .. the tower is almost through the armour .. they must be in siege .. undock .. lets give it a shot .. :)
Been seeing all kinds of numbers .. the real story is that there were 11 - 12 dreads / 5- 6 carriers / 1 titan on our side .. 6 of the dreads spartan, 1 FLA , 5 D2 if my memory serves me right .. jumping into what initially was reported to us as 11 dread, 1 MS ..
Lag: .. I had no problems at all with lag, but yes when the DD went off, several of the D2 pilots reported unresponsive systems ... such is the way the dice roll in eve :) .. not worth dwelling on ..
After jumping in we started on the target list.. the first 2 went down fine .. started chewing on the 3rd when the fighter cloud appeared :) .. Janus was gonna clear them out but must have been drinking too much caffine cause he hit the trigger a little early (still luv yah man :) ) .. boom .. fighters really should get a KM .. cause a lot of them died :) .. Then I looked at my overview and it was like .. 'guys .. i am seeing a whole lot more big red square thingies on my capital overview ! " .. around the same time the D2 guys were calling out that they were non responsive ..
As a result of our losses and may lag on the d2 guys .. who knows .. took a while to chew the third .. when we came out of siege ..
I asked the question .. "we gonna do this ? ... " ... answer back was yup .. so i smacked the siege button again and rode that flaming horse right down to the river styx :) I took some comfort in knowing that I would at least see a GF on the forums and we wouldn't be called candyasses for jumping out :)
Dam fun fight guys .. we're definately keeping the capital and fighter builders busy these days :)
See you on the battlefield !
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e3joker
Caldari
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:29:00 -
[120]
nice write up Darth
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