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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2017.03.22 15:15:17 -
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I'm too scared to read it. Plz tell me everything is gonna be ok. PLEASE TELL ME ITS OK. |
Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2017.03.22 15:36:35 -
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Last time I saw moon fracking like this there were tons of xenonorphs and it was generally bad week for everyone involved. |
Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2017.03.23 20:49:03 -
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zluq zabaa wrote:Moon mining is not passive. So when you warp away or log off for the night, the moon harvester turns off? Income generation halts? |
Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2017.03.24 15:14:54 -
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Sky Marshal wrote:Rowells wrote:zluq zabaa wrote:Moon mining is not passive. So when you warp away or log off for the night, the moon harvester turns off? Income generation halts? If we follow this logic, market orders are passive income. CCP should nerf them. That jump from passive to nerf bat wasn't logical at all. |
Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2017.03.24 15:34:22 -
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zluq zabaa wrote:So would you say taking a dump is active or passive? You press really hard and then relax and let gravity work for you... passive? Once you hit and release the flush and then the water and suction will do the rest... passive? Active. Shitting up forums without realizing it might be considered passive though.
zluq zabaa wrote:What about AFK Mining, AFK Ratting? Still active, even if the input requirements are lower. I you are not logged in and present, no progress is made. Arguments can be made its passive, but no progress is made when logged off.
zluq zabaa wrote:If you give me - in my R16 example - 200M for warping a few systems, getting fuel, warping back, fueling pos, waiting 10 minutes, taking goo, hauling goo to market, selling goo. Is it less passive then in your eyes if the Goo would be created once a month in 10 minutes when I am actually there? That would be active by your choice, not design. I can set up PI to do a similar thing, but it will still very much be considered a passive income source by majority of people you ask.
zluq zabaa wrote:There are things that require more or less activity, different kinds of activity, but they all do. There is no passive income. If in your personal view hauling, selling and caring about infrastructure is less active than flying a ship to (x,y,z) in space and start your auto-targeting something, well it might just be that you judge to your own preferences. You want to know what truly separates active from passive income in great majority of situations? Ask yourself: Is progress toward the task completion still generated after pilot involvement has entirely ceased?
Not everything falls into the straight and narrow, but here's a few examples of you're typical passive/active incomes (by design not choice):
Passive - Planetary Interaction - Industry/Research Jobs - Moon Mining - Market buy/sell orders (not immediate orders)
Active - Mining - Ratting (including missions/incursions/sleepers/etc) - Hauling - Exploration
The first list includes activities that do not require a pilot to be active or even online for progress to be made. The second list has activities that completely cease once the pilot logs off. No further generation or progress is made. |
Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2017.03.24 19:07:37 -
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Will the new moon-roids (we have a name yet?) be compressible? And if yes, will the effective compression allow the same amount of transport as today or will it become more efficient (in terms of m/3 per moon mat)? |
Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2017.03.25 06:57:53 -
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zluq zabaa wrote:You list things that are all active, each of them. You have to be active for PI just as you have to be active for current Moon Mining, just as you have to be active for Hauling or Mining (well not so much actually) and you agree on that. If you do not compare the Time Investment vs. Profit in ISK for each of these activities your list stays pretty much worthless. My PI chain is currently running while I'm not logged in. Care to explain how I'm active right now? |
Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2017.03.27 16:52:01 -
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Hopefully CCP will put some consideration into making the process of collecting or dissmeinating taxes/bills a little easier. The mining tracker is nice, but using it might become extremely tedious. |
Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2017.03.28 17:27:58 -
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Querns wrote:DK52BS wrote:in regards of SRP programs... there hundreds of ways in Eve to earn ISK and establish a suitable SRP. We don't have any r64s and I must say that our SRP is very generous and it is working very well.
Preach it, brother. It's one thing for me to yell loudly at clouds about how to fund SRP programs, but quite another seeing another group actually getting it. Banging your head against rocks does not necessarily make the rocks smarter |
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