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James Duar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.05.05 00:55:00 - [1] I like this move to purchase gametime directly from CCP for ISK. It's awesome, they're literally going to make everyone else pay for the multiple accounts of powergamers. I SEE NO WAY THIS CAN BE A BAD IDEA.
James Duar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.05.05 01:03:00 - [2] Since apparently my meaning was lost this is the point: ISK for gametime is retardedly cyclical. CCP would make NO MONEY off giving people gametime for ISK. This would mean that anyone financing their gametime with ISK is actually being financed by anyone who's still dumb enough to actually be paying the monthly subscription for this game. This means a vast number of 0.0 alt accounts for going to be effectively being paid for by those in Empire. If ISK for Gametime via CCP becomes a reality, my recommendation is you cancel paying money immediately and do it that way - because you will only end up paying for some other guy to be able to play thanks to your money.
James Duar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.05.05 01:07:00 - [3] Originally by: CmdrThor So in the end I still don't understand why the hate towards those rich-in-RL guys. Because this is freakin' internet spaceships. We don't come here to have the usual social order preserved.
James Duar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.05.05 01:19:00 - [4] Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: James Duar Originally by: CmdrThor So in the end I still don't understand why the hate towards those rich-in-RL guys. Because this is freakin' internet spaceships. We don't come here to have the usual social order preserved. Rich-in-RL guys create 6 accounts, puts Hulk in 5 of them and makes billions a day. Not a GTC in sight and he's still got a huge advantage because of his rl finances. Well then they can sit at their computer for the hours it takes to run those Hulks, the time it takes to train up those accounts and the chance that someone might just suicide bomb them in high sec for the comedy of it.
James Duar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.05.05 01:49:00 - [5] Oh snap I just looked at what I was sayng. My response to this is changed to: Dear CCP, Have better ideas and fix things which are actually broken. Also, make Kieron actually communicate information rather then just randomly sort mangled sentences.
James Duar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.05.05 02:25:00 - [6] Edited by: James Duar on 05/05/2007 02:21:37 Originally by: pyschosis Buying 'Game Time" with isk is a good thing for the player base. It allows those with more RL time than money to continue to play, while removing some of the 'surplus' isk. The isk they use for GT cannot be used to buy ships/mods/implants so they are at disadvantage vs 'paid subscriptions' as they have an "Eve Rent" bill to pay every month, and while it seems it would hurt CCP financially some, it is the correct route to go to support long term play. No it isn't you idiot. It means the paying playerbase is paying for the hardcore "12 hours a day, computer in my bathroom" playerbase. It's god damn social support structures in internet spaceships. ISK doesn't buy servers, money does - money comes from paying customers. Gametime for ISK from CCP means that paying customers are being made to pay for others.
James Duar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.05.05 02:56:00 - [7] Originally by: pyschosis Edited by: pyschosis on 05/05/2007 02:42:38 Edited by: pyschosis on 05/05/2007 02:42:10 Originally by: James Duar Edited by: James Duar on 05/05/2007 02:21:37 Originally by: pyschosis Buying 'Game Time" with isk is a good thing for the player base. It allows those with more RL time than money to continue to play, while removing some of the 'surplus' isk. The isk they use for GT cannot be used to buy ships/mods/implants so they are at disadvantage vs 'paid subscriptions' as they have an "Eve Rent" bill to pay every month, and while it seems it would hurt CCP financially some, it is the correct route to go to support long term play. It means the paying playerbase is paying for the hardcore "12 hours a day, computer in my bathroom" playerbase. It's god damn social support structures in internet spaceships. ISK doesn't buy servers, money does - money comes from paying customers. Gametime for ISK from CCP means that paying customers are being made to pay for others. CCP determines their profit margins not you. If you think they are going to create a system that means more of their income is isk than real currency you are simple ignorant. As long as the price is right those 'hard cores' will spend just as much time IN GAME earning money TO PLAY THE GAME as those who are actually working to pay for their subscription. (1 hour of my labor in RL can pay for 4 accounts for a month. How many hours will you grind for your monthly fee in isk? more than 1 I'm sure) the difference is that the 'paid' players can skip out on Eve for a month (or a year) and not lose anything, can come back right where they were whenever they want with no "Eve job" to do to play. If the 'play to play' types stop playing (stop grinding) they lose their entire account access. the number of people who actually desire "yet another rent bill to occupy their gaming time" will be SIGNIFICANTLY lower than the number of people who can simply plop down 150.00 and be golden for a year. once the majority of the 'play to play' crowd passes adolescence they wont have the leisure to keep grinding for their play time and will either quit (unlikely if they've invested that much time already) or realize the subscription fee is nothing for anyone with a 'real job' You don't seem to get it. CCP apparently can't buy server hardware fast enough as it is. Somehow, by earning less money because they are letting people play the game for what is effectively free, you are implying this does not hurt my net game experience or directly equal me paying for other people to play. It does. Because CCP have less money, which means they can buy less new hardware and hire fewer employees. Explain to me how this doesn't effect my game experience (thus reducing my utility) or result in a straight price hike in subscription fees (accomplishing the same). Hell, explain to me where giving your product away makes the remotest amount of business sense. Your argument is akin to saying that it would be fine if only a few people skimmed money from the till since not many people will do it.

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